Look out for a rabbit in April

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:46 pm

Economy could begin to recover in April, claims Gordon Brown - Telegraph

Gordon Brown has a plan for Alistair Darling to execute.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:15 pm

Where's the rabbit?

I couldn't open the link..................:wah:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:25 pm

Sorry, chonsi. The link does work, I've just tried it. But I'll paste the article here:

Economy could begin to recover in April, claims Gordon Brown

The economy could begin to recover as early as April 2, Gordon Brown has signalled.

The Prime Minister is pinning his political future on agreeing a global response to the crisis with the G20 group of world leaders at a London summit at the start of that month.

He is also considering possible tax cutting measures in the Budget later in April as a way of stimulating the economy and boosting his popularity.

The high-risk strategy adds to the pressure on Mr Brown who is currently 20 points behind in the polls.

He conceded that the London economic summit meeting in April needs to be the start of the global economic recovery. The G20 world leaders, including Barack Obama, were coming to Britain to work towards a "global deal and grand bargain," Mr Brown said.

Mr Brown said that the world could then "move towards recovery in the next few months" if agreement was reached

The Prime Minister said: "If we can get that action in place and rebuild trust and confidence in the world economy then recovery will be quicker. That is why we are putting a lot of emphasis on the meeting on 2 April. If we can get agreement then that is a major step forwards.

"You can see this is a global problem and it cannot be solved without global action, international co-ordination. That is why I have been pressing so hard that some of the measures we have adopted in Britain we can persuade other countries to adopt.

"That is what is at the crux and how we can move towards recovery in the next few months."

At a Downing Street press conference he released a blueprint that he hopes will ensure the meeting in London, which begins on 2 April, will be a success. "The Road to Recovery" details the measures needed to drag the world out of recession.

In the document he gives a clear signal that he still believes fiscal stimulus measures are the best way of sparking an economic recovery. Mr Brown has been heavily criticised for introducing a £12 billion VAT cut in the pre budget report in November.

Opposition parties have attacked the move as a waste of money. Yesterday, Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, said it was the equivalent of squandering £31million a day.

But Mr Brown has continued to defend the move. The document states that the fiscal stimulus would "feed through to the real economy over the coming months." And countries will have to consider whether "further action" may be warranted.

Giving a clear hint that countries should continue to look at further tax cutting measures, it added that fiscal policy could provide "timely support for economic activity."

The Budget will be delivered by Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, two weeks after the G20 ends. The package of measures he announces will be limited by the chronic debt and growth figures that will accompany the statement.

However, it is understood that Mr Brown is keen that further tax cutting measures that will help those suffering in the recession and get people spending again be considered by the Treasury.

He said: "My priority is to help people in this country who are facing problems with their mortgages, problems with their jobs and problems with small business finance."

Mr Brown also outlined how the world should begin to cut down on the number of tax havens.

He is considering "greater powers for regulators to oversee previously under-regulated sectors and how to ensure consistent regulations in all jurisdictions."

Meanwhile, the Prime Minister dismissed as "gossip" reports that Cabinet colleagues, including Harriet Harman, had been jockeying for position to succeed him.

He said: "I want to get on with the job I'm doing. My priority is to help people in this country. I believe we are making progress by putting in place all the measures that are necessary.

"None of the rest of the gossip really matters at all."

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:54 pm

Okay...................where's oscar?

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:12 pm

I'm supposed to care what he says?:rolleyes:

I don't think so.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:34 pm

that's our gordon

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:12 pm

At least he didn't say April 1st......................:wah:

Is their a colloquim about the rabbit I'm not getting?

Thank you for posting it, Open Mind.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:22 pm

chonsigirl;1140264 wrote: At least he didn't say April 1st......................:wah:

Is their a colloquim about the rabbit I'm not getting?

Thank you for posting it, Open Mind.

I'm sure Open Mind means that Gordon Brown will be 'pulling a rabbit out of the hat' as a majician would do and surprise us at the summit with a rescue plan.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:23 pm

Ah, thank you Oscar.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:25 pm

Just incase anyone doesn't know who Open Mind is talking about here:

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chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:26 pm

Rabbits say "No to knives" too. :-3

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:28 pm

chonsigirl;1140277 wrote: Rabbits say "No to knives" too. :-3 So they should:D:D

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:47 am

I must say i'm rather surprised gmc hasn't charged in on this one like a slapper on red bull.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:37 am

chonsigirl;1140264 wrote: At least he didn't say April 1st......................:wah:

Is their a colloquim about the rabbit I'm not getting?

Thank you for posting it, Open Mind.

We could indeed have a colloquium. We could discuss the most suitable breed of rabbit suitable for pulling from hats, whether there should only be one rabbit or more, the type and size of hat suitable for the purpose, and whether Alistair Darling is competent to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

But, as I consider you to be the expert on rabbits, Chonsi, I would have to defer to whatever you think is right.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:44 am

OpenMind;1140837 wrote: We could indeed have a colloquium. We could discuss the most suitable breed of rabbit suitable for pulling from hats, whether there should only be one rabbit or more, the type and size of hat suitable for the purpose, and whether Alistair Darling is competent to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

But, as I consider you to be the expert on rabbits, Chonsi, I would have to defer to whatever you think is right.

I think 'Darling' may surprise us :-6:-6:-6

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:40 am

oscar;1140852 wrote: I think 'Darling' may surprise us :-6:-6:-6

From what I can make out from the article, Gordon is actually creating the budget (reading a little between the lines), Alistair is simply going to deliver it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:54 pm

OpenMind;1140910 wrote: From what I can make out from the article, Gordon is actually creating the budget (reading a little between the lines), Alistair is simply going to deliver it.

Yes but if it goes wrong, Gordon can blame Darling for screwing up :wah:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:10 am

oscar;1141360 wrote: Yes but if it goes wrong, Gordon can blame Darling for screwing up :wah:

I am so surprised that you even consider that Gordon's plan could go wrong.

:sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:57 am

OpenMind;1141557 wrote: I am so surprised that you even consider that Gordon's plan could go wrong.

:sneaky:

I course i wouldn't consider that for a moment. Nothing will go wrong. I'm sure it involves borrowing more dosh from the Arabs and talk of fiscal stimulation etc and the Tories will cry and stamp their feet in protest. From what ic an understand, there is talk of further tax cuts and VAT.

GO GORDEY BOY

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OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:01 am

oscar;1141833 wrote: I course i wouldn't consider that for a moment. Nothing will go wrong. I'm sure it involves borrowing more dosh from the Arabs and talk of fiscal stimulation etc and the Tories will cry and stamp their feet in protest. From what ic an understand, there is talk of further tax cuts and VAT.

GO GORDEY BOY

Borrowing more dosh from the Arabs. Have they actually got anything other than oil and religious fanatics?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:04 am

OpenMind;1141845 wrote: Borrowing more dosh from the Arabs. Have they actually got anything other than oil and religious fanatics? I'd rather borrow it from the Arabs than as with America.. the Chinese.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:06 am

oscar;1141851 wrote: I'd rather borrow it from the Arabs than as with America.. the Chinese.

Why's that then?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:31 am

OpenMind;1141858 wrote: Why's that then? China wa booming until the economic collapse in America and Europe. They now have problems too from what i read.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:45 am

oscar;1141891 wrote: China wa booming until the economic collapse in America and Europe. They now have problems too from what i read.

So you're saying that the Arabs are not suffering a financial catastrophe like the rest of us. Surely they are dependent on us to buy their oil. It's the only reason I know of that they have money at all. They were just a load of fractious Bedouin tribes until they found they had black gold.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:47 am

OpenMind;1141906 wrote: So you're saying that the Arabs are not suffering a financial catastrophe like the rest of us. Surely they are dependent on us to buy their oil. It's the only reason I know of that they have money at all. They were just a load of fractious Bedouin tribes until they found they had black gold. There has been Saudi money in Britain for years. Even American has borrowed from The Saudi's via London. Who would you borrow from? Japan is suffering now same as China. I would put the Saudi's down as the safest bet right now. Other economies are too unstable.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:40 am

oscar;1141953 wrote: There has been Saudi money in Britain for years. Even American has borrowed from The Saudi's via London. Who would you borrow from? Japan is suffering now same as China. I would put the Saudi's down as the safest bet right now. Other economies are too unstable.

I don't think any economy is safe at the moment. Saudi's economy is dependent on oil. I think that world resources are going to be the main basis for bartering between the international communities at the moment.

As a resource, currency is very weak at the moment. If the Saudis want to hold the world to ransom over oil, they may be disappointed. Russia also has oil and are probably already examining the undersea sources of oil around the north pole.

Oil. Could be the very basis for a nasty world war.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:53 pm

OpenMind;1141987 wrote: I don't think any economy is safe at the moment. Saudi's economy is dependent on oil. I think that world resources are going to be the main basis for bartering between the international communities at the moment.

As a resource, currency is very weak at the moment. If the Saudis want to hold the world to ransom over oil, they may be disappointed. Russia also has oil and are probably already examining the undersea sources of oil around the north pole.

Oil. Could be the very basis for a nasty world war. One thing's for sure....we can't ask Ireland for a few quid :wah: I don't like the country being in debt to any other nation but i don't see any other choice except Tory cut-backs that would result in greater job and homes loss.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:19 am

oscar;1142131 wrote: One thing's for sure....we can't ask Ireland for a few quid :wah: I don't like the country being in debt to any other nation but i don't see any other choice except Tory cut-backs that would result in greater job and homes loss.

We'll get through this somehow. I'm not sure how though.

In three/four generations' time, the kids will be learning about it at school.:-6

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:55 am

OpenMind;1142248 wrote: We'll get through this somehow. I'm not sure how though.

In three/four generations' time, the kids will be learning about it at school.:-6 Haven't you been listening to Gordon Brown? He says our 'Great British spirit will get us through' :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:37 am

oscar;1142473 wrote: Haven't you been listening to Gordon Brown? He says our 'Great British spirit will get us through' :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Of course. That's what I meant.

Does that mean we have to fleece the immigrants, take back what was ours, and kick them out?

:sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:14 pm

OpenMind;1142494 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Of course. That's what I meant.

Does that mean we have to fleece the immigrants, take back what was ours, and kick them out?

:sneaky: Maybe he's got a hidden agenda against the fuzzywuzzys :sneaky:

He's off next week to the Whitehouse to meet Obama...... hope he gives him a Glasgow kiss :wah:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:25 pm

still waiting here for the rabbit.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:29 pm

Odie;1142608 wrote: still waiting here for the rabbit.:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

It won't arrive until April, Odie.:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:31 pm

OpenMind;1142611 wrote: It won't arrive until April, Odie.:yh_rotfl You can't rush Gordon :wah:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:17 pm

OpenMind;1142611 wrote: It won't arrive until April, Odie.:yh_rotfl

right in time for Easter.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:19 pm

Odie;1142627 wrote: right in time for Easter.

Yup.:yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:22 pm

OpenMind;1142629 wrote: Yup.:yh_rotfl

It had better be a chocolate rabbit!:sneaky:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:23 pm

Odie;1142631 wrote: It had better be a chocolate rabbit!:sneaky:

I'll pass your terms onto Gordon Brown then, via Oscar.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:25 pm

OpenMind;1142632 wrote: I'll pass your terms onto Gordon Brown then, via Oscar.

think your mistaken, GB, stands for gone bad!:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:28 pm

Odie;1142635 wrote: think your mistaken, GB, stands for gone bad!:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

He should be Gordon White then........ Got Worse!:rolleyes:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:41 pm

OpenMind;1142640 wrote: He should be Gordon White then........ Got Worse!:rolleyes:
It should be SMF...... I'll leave you to work that one out :wah:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:29 am

oscar;1142656 wrote: It should be SMF...... I'll leave you to work that one out :wah:

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I don't know why I'm laughing. I don't know if I worked it out right or not. What I thought it was made me laugh.:yh_rotfl