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Jester;1146504 wrote: Whatever spot.These might be interesting to anyone with a good memory. The first graph is just to show how tangled the information is, the smoothed second one is more capable of interpretation. It's very relevant to this thread though.

Some will get more information from it than others.

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spot;1146508 wrote: These might be interesting to anyone with a good memory. The first graph is just to show how tangled the information is, the smoothed second one is more capable of interpretation. It's very relevant to this thread though.

Some will get more information from it than others. I see no relevence to this thread from your graph. It could be two women having orgasms for all i know.

Sooooooooo. What upset Jimbo then??
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G#Gill;1145945 wrote: I received a PM this morning from Jimbo, in answer to my PM to him, and he asked me to put it on this thread so that everybody would, perhaps, understand things better.

thanks for your lovelly pm, i have always found you funny kind and fair ,just for the record i have not left because any one upset me ,it was I stopped having fun here,i got an infraction which may or not of been fair ,but if i cant post something nasty about two mass murderers and a pedo what is the point of me having an opinion i have many many good friends here and i miss them of course i do but i'm not about getting into rows i'm about having fun ,so gill my friend if you could post this on EL G'S who upset jimbo thread then you guys can all have peace

one last thing when you have held your dead child in your arms and you see other parents holding their dead children murdered by a bomb sent in by plane with your countries name on it ,you tend to think i know exactly how much pain those parents are in and you want to speak up for them and make the bombing stop

people of FG i will return one day when all the wars are over ,untill then take care jimbo




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Odie;1146537 wrote: bumped for Oscar I saw that Odie, earlier....... el guapo and i were talking about the pm's Jimbo got a couple of weeks back. His meassages to me and guapo were slightly different to the one he sent Gill but then Gill's a lady and he would not write to her in the same manner as me or guapo. The main thing is........ we all hope he comes back real soon :-4
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oscar;1146528 wrote: I see no relevence to this thread from your graph. It could be two women having orgasms for all i know.And what would you know about ForumGarden's history, oscar?

Some will get more information from it than others.
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oscar;1146540 wrote: I saw that Odie, earlier....... el guapo and i were talking about the pm's Jimbo got a couple of weeks back. His meassages to me and guapo were slightly different to the one he sent Gill but then Gill's a lady and he would not write to her in the same manner as me or guapo. The main thing is........ we all hope he comes back real soon :-4


But you are a lady as well:confused:

Yes it would be good if he comes back soon.
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Jester;1146440 wrote: *jester timidly raises his hand to ask a question*





Betty, I must ask then, how many mods do you have ot have to make it unanimous? Theres what? 18 or so mods? If you have to wait till all 18 weigh in and decide that just doesn't seem very practical, and when I have reported posts, I know every mod didn't possible have time to make a decision when I was brought back with an answer.



I would really like an explaination to this, and I'm not meaning to make trouble, but I think it sure is important to Themis' comments.


Id also like to point out here that if a reported post was against a mod, that mod would have no input in the thread. Some reported threads have over a hundred posts in them, we really do try and get everyone to have their opinion and we dont make a decision until it is unanimous. I just went through a stack of old threads and actually didnt come across a time where a mod acted single handed against a member here, only for spammers. Also its good to know that we often choose to delete posts quick to get them off the board, we sometimes do this solely if no one else is around because its reversable, we only soft delete, all posts belong to Tombstone and we dont permantely delete posts. Same with infractions, all are reversable and infact I have witnessed a few be retracted.

Their may be 18 mods on the list, I lost count with the comings and goings but I have never seen that amount of mods here at once. I would say 6 to 8 mods is the norm which is a good balance when dealing with reported posts.



Spot, thats a good idea, If any member wishes certain mods to deal with their reported post, just say so but make sure you choose at least 4 or 5 lol. Remember time zones too, so it may take longer for it to be dealt with.

EDIT: We will discuss Spot's suggestion in the mod area and with Tombstone...He has the final say as he picked ALL the moderators to do the job.
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i know because of the time differences there are times when i have been here totally alone. but like Chezzie said everything is reversable so if i screw up the others can smack me upside the head when they get here! and fix the problem! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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Okay i'm gonna make this statement here and now, and i hope you guys have enough respect for me to believe it!

I CANNOT READ PRIVATE MESSAGES!
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Themis;1146600 wrote: We should only have one or two|Mods that have powers to contact you to discuss an infraction.. I'm tiered of getting multiple Pms from Members spewing their personal rubbish at me. even if my inbox is full I still get their opinions..



18 is too many... it seems like most mods don't use this forum except only when they want to infract someone while other members who posted often now just lurk waiting to pounce, I appreciate the work that you do chezzie and for what it's worth you will always have my vote but do all 18 share the workload?



And plus I would like an official statement from the owners of this forum to clear up the suggestion that mods can read our private messages,



Also I feel like I should support FG with paid membership but it would be too risky and a waist of money because an outspoken person such as myself views everyday here to be is last because of someone like abbey jumping in an insulting me simply because she assumes that I'm in kaoots with oscar and jimbo or whatever's going on in this thread...



something needs to be done...


As far as I am aware, the mod who is first on hand to deal with the reported post contacts the member. If its a case of one mod not getting anywhere, another mod will try. We dont ALL have a go.



Regardless of what anyone thinks on the amount of mods that are here, its not our business, it's Tombstones, he owns the forum and he makes the decisions.



If their were only 2, we would be inundated with spam and post fights and reported posts not being dealt with. Believe me, their are times when 18 isnt enough.



Remember the mods are members too and come on FG to play in the arcade or casino or post, their is no rule that a mod has to participate in every mod issue. We try to lightly moderate and try to remain in the background and not intervene as much as possible. Creating threads like this just highlights that were here. Personally im glad of the opportunity to try and explain what we do here and that no moderation is done on a personal level.



MODS cannot read PMS. I can read mine, nobody elses. Why do people constantly ask this question? Believe me when I say, we do not have the power to do that, nor would I want to.



FG would be very boring without outspoken members Themis, we have no problem with it but remember the mods are MEMBERS too and if they wish to voice their opinion, they should be allowed to do so, just like you can.
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Hope6;1146598 wrote: i know because of the time differences there are times when i have been here totally alone. but like Chezzie said everything is reversable so if i screw up the others can smack me upside the head when they get here! and fix the problem! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


If Im not mistaken thats a full time job. :p
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Themis;1146601 wrote: Well tell him to tell the Mods to use this forum as a member not just a mod,


You think we have the power to tell Tombstone how to run his forum? Personally id not be so cheeky and ungrateful to do so Themis. This is his forum, I am a member and abide by TOS same as everyone else.

Their are no rules that state a mod or a member has to participate for a certain amount of time or posts on the forum in any way shape or form.
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Nomad;1146605 wrote: If Im not mistaken thats a full time job. :p


thats why theres 18 of us, it takes a bunch of them to keep me in line! :p :yh_rotfl
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Themis;1146609 wrote: We never had Mods before now we cant live without them. do you get paid?

if not why do you do it?


See what I find hilarious is that we hear that FG dont need mods but we get reported posts off the members about each others posts...



Spam is what we mainly deal with Themis.



I am a mod on 2 other forums Themis and I am also Admin on one other. Forum Garden is the only forum that I had to apply for, I was simply asked to do it elsewhere. I dont get paid for any of them.



I do it because I enjoy it. Moderating is different on each forum, that makes it exciting at times. Primarily I like helping people and get a great satisfaction from helping members here with problems they may have. Some I could do even if I was just a member but some requires you to be a mod.
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Themis;1146609 wrote: We never had Mods before now we cant live without them. do you get paid?

if not why do you do it?


i was under the impression there had always been mods here, just not as many.:confused:
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Themis;1146610 wrote: Cheeky and ungratefully tosh...



Members are more important if he didn't have any then he wouldn't have a forum.

WE can discuss things without some form of generalisation, I don't tell anyone what to do.. you just make issues out of every statement..



Tombstone is great and has created a unique platform so stop inventing rubbish because it's weeping states like yours that causes the friction...


Themis, If I offended you im sorry but Im just speaking from the heart, just giving you my point of view. I would find it cheeky and ungrateful to tell Tombstone how to run his forum thats all. No slight was meant on anyone else. You said "well tell him", im just explaining why I wouldnt.:-6
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Themis;1146616 wrote: Quit it with the lord tombstone nonsense.. members make the Forum dont you understand?



and some members get depressed to tears through the ignorance of idiots so my god it does upset me when good members leave and we are left with 18 mods


Ok Themis...This ignorant idiot who talks nonesense is out of here.
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Themis;1146616 wrote: Quit it with the lord tombstone nonsense.. members make the Forum dont you understand?

and some members get depressed to tears through the ignorance of idiots so my god it does upset me when good members leave and we are left with 18 mods


If it wasnt for Tombstone there wouldnt be a forum. I think he has set up a wonderful forum and as chezzie said they need so many mods for all the spam etc.....and remember they are unpaid.....

There have been times when I have been really upset about certain things on here and was going to leave but I have made some very good friends on here and so I dont post very much except on the FOCER thread and play in the arcade.

For me FG is a form of relaxation.

To knock Tombstone and the mods like what is happening in my mind is just childish and uncalled for:(

I like Jimbo and am sorry he has made the decision he has made but being nasty to the mods isnt going to fix anything
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Themis;1146616 wrote: Quit it with the lord tombstone nonsense.. members make the Forum dont you understand?

and some members get depressed to tears through the ignorance of idiots so my god it does upset me when good members leave and we are left with 18 mods


18 mods who also pay to be members here:-6
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Themis;1146626 wrote: who insulted tombstone? open you eyes people and read what is written..

Assumption, assumption, assumptions.. again I will repeat this is about too many Mods not FG or Tombstone..

If Tombstone wants a million Mods then so be it..... but do I have to agree?

no I don't, so stop it with this nonsense..


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Themis;1146618 wrote: Well I only hope you enjoy it.....




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to the best of my knowledge there have never been 18 mods here at once, i think they are all needed because of the time differences, as i stated earlier, there has been several times when situationd have occured and i was the only mod here. because it was the wrong time of day for a lot of the others.
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Themis;1146631 wrote: Time difference is no reason at all... there should be those who are designated to clean up the place and those who have a big stick, 16 cleaners and 2 security guards would be an idea if it's allowed to have an idea that is?


Course it is, have as many as you like.



May I request I use one of those brushes with the pan attached please:yh_rotfl



Oh yes, we may need a dog too, 2 guards isnt enough to sniff out all the **** that goes on here :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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Themis;1146631 wrote: Time difference is no reason at all... there should be those who are designated to clean up the place and those who have a big stick, 16 cleaners and 2 security guards would be an idea if it's allowed to have an idea that is?


we may need more than 2 security guards, we'll need at least one with a big stick for each time zone!

can i be one of those with the big stick please? i do enough cleaning at home!
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Themis;1146638 wrote: I would pay for membership if the Mod situation got sorted, I feel too insecure on this forum I could be suspended everyday....


So could everyone Themis if they dont abide by the rules, Its the same for everyone. Every forum has mods, you need to either get in touch with Tombstone and tell him why you want most of us all sacked or delegated to sweeping up or ask to join us on the mod team or find somewhere you feel less insecure:-6.
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Themis;1146645 wrote: Sacked? sweeping up?



lol....


Finally I got a smile...cya :wah:
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Themis;1146658 wrote: I find it all very amusing :)

just like life outside the window and not a life looking through the window,



Banning folks is an amusement of yours not mine... abide yourself :)


Your wrong! I have never banned a member who joined here to join in. I have only banned spammers. Would you prefer they were allowed to post what they wished here?, porn and rude pics and private messages to members??? I have been a mod for around a year now and only seen one member get banned. Its never amusing...:-5
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Themis;1146667 wrote: What is wrong with my argument? okay I didn't use cleaners in a derogatory way I only have no other words to describe your tasks and I do appreciate what you do,



but I seriously think this forum is over moderated.. do with this information what you want.. I don't care if you agree or not... the rest of the nonsense is very amusing....


We get the fact that you think its over moderated Themis but their is nothing we can do about it, so saying "tell Tombstone this" wont work.

If anyone else shares your view they have not expressed it here but if there are all I can suggest is you all take it up with Tombstone.

I also suggest you copy a link of this thread to your complaint as he is very busy and doesnt get to read all the posts on the forum.



Your 100% entitled to an opinion, so is everyone, you expressed yours and others have theirs. Its healthy Themis, nobody has a problem with it unless it gets personal and name calling. Have your opinion as much as you wish just be aware of the rules when doing so.



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Well this thread hasnt been deleted. Let's see shall we:-6
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Themis;1146600 wrote: We should only have one or two|Mods that have powers to contact you to discuss an infraction.. I'm tiered of getting multiple Pms from Members spewing their personal rubbish at me. even if my inbox is full I still get their opinions..

18 is too many... it seems like most mods don't use this forum except only when they want to infract someone while other members who posted often now just lurk waiting to pounce, I appreciate the work that you do chezzie and for what it's worth you will always have my vote but do all 18 share the workload?

And plus I would like an official statement from the owners of this forum to clear up the suggestion that mods can read our private messages,

Also I feel like I should support FG with paid membership but it would be too risky and a waist of money because an outspoken person such as myself views everyday here to be is last because of someone like abbey jumping in an insulting me simply because she assumes that I'm in kaoots with oscar and jimbo or whatever's going on in this thread...

something needs to be done...


Themis;1146601 wrote: Well tell him to tell the Mods to use this forum as a member not just a mod,


Themis;1146609 wrote: We never had Mods before now we cant live without them. do you get paid?

if not why do you do it?
Typical! i have seen this type of person many times,,, dont even want to be a paying member but still thinks he has every right to have a say in the way things are run:rolleyes:

mods do this voluntary yet some people are never happy and instead of any appreciation, just moan at them. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion (and this is mine by the way) but we dont have the right to say how this place is run,, this is Tombstones Forum and he can run the way he sees fit:)

I for one am quite happy with the mix of mods we have here, and if i wasnt,,, tough luck! i would heed my own advice i have given to others in the past ....... if you dont like it, go elsewhere;)




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Idgie;1146040 wrote: Jimbo was just logged in and reading this thread El Guapo. :)

I wished he would have commented to make you feel better.

He's gonna be missed, not forgotten and I will be looking forward to his return! :-6


CARLA;1146120 wrote: OK folks as the MODERATOR Jimbo contacted I can tell you until he contacts TOMBSTONE DIRECTLY HIS ACCOUNT IS STILL OPEN. Prior to deleting any account it has to be discussed with the member.

So stop the pity party and move on please. :mad:


I had a wander over to Jims profile... its still there:Dand his last activity was 9.55 this morning:) so he aint gone yet, maybe he will pop by and put this to rest,,, maybe not,,, Only he probably knows exactly how he is feeling,, so maybe we should stop speculating and assuming,, and wait and see if he does indeed return:D




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Thought for the day...



If the mods here were even a fraction as unfair as some of you like to play it in your own heads..





do you REALLY think YOU would still be here?:thinking:
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