Daily Express | UK News :: Hacker loses extradition battle
Computer hacker Gary McKinnon lost the latest round of his fight against extradition to the US when British prosecutors refused to bring charges against him.
Mr McKinnon, 42, from Wood Green, north London, is accused of sabotaging vital American military systems after the terror attacks of September 11 2001.
His lawyers appealed for him to be prosecuted in Britain on lesser charges, but the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) rejected their request.
Mr McKinnon insists he was only looking for evidence of UFOs when he hacked into a series of US military networks in 2001 and 2002. He has signed a statement accepting that his hacking constituted an offence under the UK's Computer Misuse Act 1990.
His supporters say he acted through "naivety" as a result of suffering from Asperger's Syndrome - a form of autism - and should not be considered a criminal.
But the US military alleges that he caused 800,000 dollars (£550,000) worth of damage and left 300 computers at a US Navy weapons station unusable immediately after the September 11 atrocities.
Mr McKinnon's legal team hoped to avoid his extradition by having him prosecuted in the UK, and made a formal request for this to director of public prosecutions Keir Starmer in December.
The CPS said it found enough evidence to bring charges against the hacker under the Computer Misuse Act for obtaining "unauthorised access with intent". But Alison Saunders, head of the CPS organised crime division, said: "The evidence we have does not come near to reflecting the criminality that is alleged by the American authorities."
The CPS also decided that the case was best prosecuted in the US. Mrs Saunders said: "The bulk of the evidence is located in the United States, the activity was directed against the military infrastructure of the United States, the investigation commenced in the United States and was ongoing, and there are a large number of witnesses, most of whom are located in the United States."
Glasgow-born Mr McKinnon is accused by the US of "the biggest military computer hack of all time". He allegedly hacked into 53 US Army computers and 26 US Navy computers, including those at US Naval Weapons Station Earle in New Jersey, which is responsible for replenishing munitions and supplies for the Atlantic fleet. He is also accused of hacking into 16 Nasa computers, one US Department of Defence computer and one machine belonging to the US Air Force.
British hacker loses his fight against extradition to the USA
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British hacker loses his fight against extradition to the USA
Jester;1146443 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
That last paragrah reads alike a chritmas song- 'and a partridge in a pear tree....'
He'll give over to the US exactly how he hacked the system, proveing where in the system he was at, provided he did not try to access confidential or secret systems, he will get 6 months and be treated well.
The question is, where will he spend those 6 months- I think we may just hand him over to the aliens (we keep them on retainer) :yh_alien2:yh_rotfl
It's actually more serious than you think. The UK signed an extradition treaty with the states allowing them to extradite people for trial in the US in relation to terrorist charges without having to provide proof of guilt.
The allegation is enough. We still have to provide a reasonable demonstration of guilt. Tony Blair also bypassed the normal parliamentary scrutiny to get it through. It's just one of the many reasons people are getting to dislike new labour in this country.
http://beyondbridges.net/blog/2008/07/u ... reaty.html
It's grossly one sided and we should tell you to get stuffed and repeal the law. which is not an anti american comment our government were badly at fault with this one, it's an issue that angers many. This expectation is that this guy will not get a fair rial in the states as the US govt will try to cover up the failings in your security that allowed an autistic hacker to access to such supposedly safe computers. They tracked him through his e-mail address. It's whoever was in charge of security of these computers that needs to be questioned. There have been a couple of other cases where they have wanted to extradite someone for something that is not a crime in the UK but is in the states-one was a perfectly legitimate business supplying chemicals over the internet-the allegation being they were selling to terrorist groups.
There is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that you do not get a fair trial in the states especially when it comes to these kinds if allegations.
That last paragrah reads alike a chritmas song- 'and a partridge in a pear tree....'
He'll give over to the US exactly how he hacked the system, proveing where in the system he was at, provided he did not try to access confidential or secret systems, he will get 6 months and be treated well.
The question is, where will he spend those 6 months- I think we may just hand him over to the aliens (we keep them on retainer) :yh_alien2:yh_rotfl
It's actually more serious than you think. The UK signed an extradition treaty with the states allowing them to extradite people for trial in the US in relation to terrorist charges without having to provide proof of guilt.
The allegation is enough. We still have to provide a reasonable demonstration of guilt. Tony Blair also bypassed the normal parliamentary scrutiny to get it through. It's just one of the many reasons people are getting to dislike new labour in this country.
http://beyondbridges.net/blog/2008/07/u ... reaty.html
It's grossly one sided and we should tell you to get stuffed and repeal the law. which is not an anti american comment our government were badly at fault with this one, it's an issue that angers many. This expectation is that this guy will not get a fair rial in the states as the US govt will try to cover up the failings in your security that allowed an autistic hacker to access to such supposedly safe computers. They tracked him through his e-mail address. It's whoever was in charge of security of these computers that needs to be questioned. There have been a couple of other cases where they have wanted to extradite someone for something that is not a crime in the UK but is in the states-one was a perfectly legitimate business supplying chemicals over the internet-the allegation being they were selling to terrorist groups.
There is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that you do not get a fair trial in the states especially when it comes to these kinds if allegations.
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gmc;1146602 wrote: It's actually more serious than you think. The UK signed an extradition treaty with the states allowing them to extradite people for trial in the US in relation to terrorist charges without having to provide proof of guilt.
The allegation is enough. We still have to provide a reasonable demonstration of guilt. Tony Blair also bypassed the normal parliamentary scrutiny to get it through. It's just one of the many reasons people are getting to dislike new labour in this country.
Bridges Beyond Bridges: The UK/US Extradition Treaty
It's grossly one sided and we should tell you to get stuffed and repeal the law. which is not an anti american comment our government were badly at fault with this one, it's an issue that angers many. This expectation is that this guy will not get a fair rial in the states as the US govt will try to cover up the failings in your security that allowed an autistic hacker to access to such supposedly safe computers. They tracked him through his e-mail address. It's whoever was in charge of security of these computers that needs to be questioned. There have been a couple of other cases where they have wanted to extradite someone for something that is not a crime in the UK but is in the states-one was a perfectly legitimate business supplying chemicals over the internet-the allegation being they were selling to terrorist groups.
There is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that you do not get a fair trial in the states especially when it comes to these kinds if allegations. Blimey gmc, it i keep agreeing with you like this, i may even come to feel some affection for you. :wah:
All of what you said above added with, we can't kick out the bloody real terrorists as they keep running to the courts of appeal time and time again, but some geek looking for evidence in NASA's computers for aliens and off he goes the moment the US call for his extradition. It's ourageous. :-5
The allegation is enough. We still have to provide a reasonable demonstration of guilt. Tony Blair also bypassed the normal parliamentary scrutiny to get it through. It's just one of the many reasons people are getting to dislike new labour in this country.
Bridges Beyond Bridges: The UK/US Extradition Treaty
It's grossly one sided and we should tell you to get stuffed and repeal the law. which is not an anti american comment our government were badly at fault with this one, it's an issue that angers many. This expectation is that this guy will not get a fair rial in the states as the US govt will try to cover up the failings in your security that allowed an autistic hacker to access to such supposedly safe computers. They tracked him through his e-mail address. It's whoever was in charge of security of these computers that needs to be questioned. There have been a couple of other cases where they have wanted to extradite someone for something that is not a crime in the UK but is in the states-one was a perfectly legitimate business supplying chemicals over the internet-the allegation being they were selling to terrorist groups.
There is a perception, rightly or wrongly, that you do not get a fair trial in the states especially when it comes to these kinds if allegations. Blimey gmc, it i keep agreeing with you like this, i may even come to feel some affection for you. :wah:
All of what you said above added with, we can't kick out the bloody real terrorists as they keep running to the courts of appeal time and time again, but some geek looking for evidence in NASA's computers for aliens and off he goes the moment the US call for his extradition. It's ourageous. :-5
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
British hacker loses his fight against extradition to the USA
Jester;1147304 wrote: Well if thats how the UK feels about things then you should not under any circumstances give up any of your soverignty. I woudln't.
It's just one other bone of contention people here have with the idiots we were stupid enough to elect. You got rid of bush we've still got our numpties.
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Blimey gmc, it i keep agreeing with you like this, i may even come to feel some affection for you.
All of what you said above added with, we can't kick out the bloody real terrorists as they keep running to the courts of appeal time and time again, but some geek looking for evidence in NASA's computers for aliens and off he goes the moment the US call for his extradition. It's ourageous.
Admit it. you agree with me GORDON IS A MORON.
YouTube - Gordon Brown's Downfall - Glasgow Election
'You stupid prick. It's Glasgow! How much ****ing damage can they do?':yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
gordon's theme song
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
Jester feel free to sing along. As you see here in the UK we are not afraid to call our politicians names and heap ridicule upon them. Indeed it is a national past-time and not in the least unpatriotic. Oscar suffers from a rather sad fixation on gordon brown (also know as crash gordon, gordie boy and that useless wanker in number 10) many of the british posters here worry for her sanity. If she could just sing along to the gordon brown theme song I feel sure it would help in her recovery. She won't hear you but knowing you are there in spirit may help:-3.
It's just one other bone of contention people here have with the idiots we were stupid enough to elect. You got rid of bush we've still got our numpties.
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Blimey gmc, it i keep agreeing with you like this, i may even come to feel some affection for you.
All of what you said above added with, we can't kick out the bloody real terrorists as they keep running to the courts of appeal time and time again, but some geek looking for evidence in NASA's computers for aliens and off he goes the moment the US call for his extradition. It's ourageous.
Admit it. you agree with me GORDON IS A MORON.
YouTube - Gordon Brown's Downfall - Glasgow Election
'You stupid prick. It's Glasgow! How much ****ing damage can they do?':yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
gordon's theme song
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
Jester feel free to sing along. As you see here in the UK we are not afraid to call our politicians names and heap ridicule upon them. Indeed it is a national past-time and not in the least unpatriotic. Oscar suffers from a rather sad fixation on gordon brown (also know as crash gordon, gordie boy and that useless wanker in number 10) many of the british posters here worry for her sanity. If she could just sing along to the gordon brown theme song I feel sure it would help in her recovery. She won't hear you but knowing you are there in spirit may help:-3.
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gmc;1148057 wrote: It's just one other bone of contention people here have with the idiots we were stupid enough to elect. You got rid of bush we've still got our numpties.
posted by oscar
Admit it. you agree with me GORDON IS A MORON.
YouTube - Gordon Brown's Downfall - Glasgow Election
:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
gordon's theme song
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
Jester feel free to sing along. As you see here in the UK we are not afraid to call our politicians names and heap ridicule upon them. Indeed it is a national past-time and not in the least unpatriotic. Oscar suffers from a rather sad fixation on gordon brown (also know as crash gordon, gordie boy and that useless wanker in number 10) many of the british posters here worry for her sanity. If she could just sing along to the gordon brown theme song I feel sure it would help in her recovery. She won't hear you but knowing you are there in spirit may help:-3. I'm far too ill to care right now and my puppy has a meaner left hook than i do. When i've recovered in a few days........ I'm coming to get you gmc................ you've been warned. Fancy picking on a poor lady when she's ill.... tut tut with you......... you old scroat,:p:p:p
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Admit it. you agree with me GORDON IS A MORON.
YouTube - Gordon Brown's Downfall - Glasgow Election
:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
gordon's theme song
YouTube - Gordon Brown: I'm A Wanker
Jester feel free to sing along. As you see here in the UK we are not afraid to call our politicians names and heap ridicule upon them. Indeed it is a national past-time and not in the least unpatriotic. Oscar suffers from a rather sad fixation on gordon brown (also know as crash gordon, gordie boy and that useless wanker in number 10) many of the british posters here worry for her sanity. If she could just sing along to the gordon brown theme song I feel sure it would help in her recovery. She won't hear you but knowing you are there in spirit may help:-3. I'm far too ill to care right now and my puppy has a meaner left hook than i do. When i've recovered in a few days........ I'm coming to get you gmc................ you've been warned. Fancy picking on a poor lady when she's ill.... tut tut with you......... you old scroat,:p:p:p
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon