Jester;1146855 wrote: Oh Kaz thats me too.
As soon as my subscritption ran out I did not renew it, I'm not yet satisfied enough with FG to pay to have the extra bells and whistles. I'm feeling a lot better about it, but there are a few things here outstanding that need to be fixed before I'll take the plunge and spend again. I agree with Themis on this one, it is his only barganing chip.
And I do expect to be heard when I report a post, and I do expect that any member form the day they join should be bale to contribute thier opinion and be heard.
Of course its your choice wether to become a paying member or not,,, someone actually very kindly paid for me,,, but i will be renewing when it runs out:) You are also entitled to your opinion as i am mine,,, as i said in my post. Of course you expect to be heard if you report a post,, i would expect the same. I just cant see why it is imortant to Themis how many mods there are,, and it has been explained time and again why that is. Sometimes you dont know the extent of something until you are actually in their shoes,,, its like starting a job then finding out there is much more to it than you ever thought. In my real life i was involved in voluntary work and i cant tell you the amount of people who "had all the answers" were never satisfied,, always saying ,, you should do this,, you should do it that way,, i dont think,, i think,, etc.. but ask them to help and it is a different story. They were quite happy to benefit form my efforts, but still thought they should have a say in the way things were done, even though they were not prepared to contribute. In my opinion,, wanting to have a say in how something is run,,, and having an opinion on it are two different matters.
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Themis;1146679 wrote: I've tried to have an open debate about it but you delete my threads or any of the other 18 do.. it's like a taboo.. I dont know what the rest of the members think.. I would like to know.... There is a mod on here and i won''t say who to save an argument who gets right up my nose. If a warning comes, their message is like a pompous school prefect showing off in the playground.
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Jester;1146858 wrote: This thread is not about Jimbo- its about quaop's unhappiness that someone chased Jimbo out.
Jimbo's sited reason for leaving was the fact that he's upset with the talk of war and how it affects children.
If Jimbo has another reason- its private.
Calling Jimbo a lessor man and telling him to grow up isnt going to help bring him back. Well said Jester :-6
Jimbo's sited reason for leaving was the fact that he's upset with the talk of war and how it affects children.
If Jimbo has another reason- its private.
Calling Jimbo a lessor man and telling him to grow up isnt going to help bring him back. Well said Jester :-6
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Themis;1145577 wrote: Well Jimbo needs to get a life really.. I like Jimbo but why should he worry about ignorant members on FG?
If this person upset Jim at his local Pub I feel sure that he would not stop going to his local.. I don't understand why he allows those who like hurting to hurt him,
Please post the name of the person who upset Jim, it would give me great pleasure to give this individual a piece of my mind.
hmmmmmm:rolleyes:
If this person upset Jim at his local Pub I feel sure that he would not stop going to his local.. I don't understand why he allows those who like hurting to hurt him,
Please post the name of the person who upset Jim, it would give me great pleasure to give this individual a piece of my mind.
hmmmmmm:rolleyes:
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Jester;1146906 wrote: The number of mods here deosnt mean so much to me I'm the one who first said '18' and I just guestimatted that, but at any given time on the board I see only one or two active, the rest are either inactive or 'hidden', as for the hidden ones it tells me they dont want to be bothered with moderating.
I dont think spots suggestion as to being able to select who you want to mod your reported post is feasable. but I do think that a minimum number of (four/five) mods must agree to infracting a member before its carried out.
When I reported posts in the past I get the feeling there is only one or two mods back there deciding the issue, and when a warning returns to me for reporting a post, it tells me that there is heavy bias back there.
I dont know how you fix that. I don't know that you can fix that, but I think most members would like a few more mods deciding an issue between members rather than one or two.
I do know there is always going to be conflict, and for the most part each mod has been professional in their demeanor when dealign with me by PM. That goes a long way and I appreciate that.
but jester,,,, it seems here that you are assuming things with no reason as to why you come up with your assumptions:-3 I cant really comment on what happens when reporting a post as i have so far never done it, but i have read a few times when the issue has been brought up on the boards that infractions etc. can be reversed,,, so i would think once the rest of the mods saw an action had been taken and disagreed then they would say so
what i stand by is,, wether i am a paying member or not, i enjoy the use of this forum that Tombstone created. Im sure he put a lot of work in to it and has enlisted the help of people willing to give up their time to help him run things. they run things the way he wants it. If i had a personal issue i would hope for help with it from him or the mods, but i wouldnt presume to tell him how i think the general running of the forum should be, or how the modding should be done.
I dont think spots suggestion as to being able to select who you want to mod your reported post is feasable. but I do think that a minimum number of (four/five) mods must agree to infracting a member before its carried out.
When I reported posts in the past I get the feeling there is only one or two mods back there deciding the issue, and when a warning returns to me for reporting a post, it tells me that there is heavy bias back there.
I dont know how you fix that. I don't know that you can fix that, but I think most members would like a few more mods deciding an issue between members rather than one or two.
I do know there is always going to be conflict, and for the most part each mod has been professional in their demeanor when dealign with me by PM. That goes a long way and I appreciate that.
but jester,,,, it seems here that you are assuming things with no reason as to why you come up with your assumptions:-3 I cant really comment on what happens when reporting a post as i have so far never done it, but i have read a few times when the issue has been brought up on the boards that infractions etc. can be reversed,,, so i would think once the rest of the mods saw an action had been taken and disagreed then they would say so
what i stand by is,, wether i am a paying member or not, i enjoy the use of this forum that Tombstone created. Im sure he put a lot of work in to it and has enlisted the help of people willing to give up their time to help him run things. they run things the way he wants it. If i had a personal issue i would hope for help with it from him or the mods, but i wouldnt presume to tell him how i think the general running of the forum should be, or how the modding should be done.
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flopstock;1146804 wrote: Thought for the day...
If the mods here were even a fraction as unfair as some of you like to play it in your own heads..
do you REALLY think YOU would still be here?
Oh my Floppy..that is SO funny, made my day thank you! :wah:
If the mods here were even a fraction as unfair as some of you like to play it in your own heads..
do you REALLY think YOU would still be here?
Oh my Floppy..that is SO funny, made my day thank you! :wah:
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Jester;1146932 wrote: I have done so with TS, he lsitened and clarified some things, some things are still left undone. This thread came up, some of the things Themis said I agreed with, it seems like a good discussion to get some of thes things out in the open, and Ive not mentioned names. If or when this thread turns into a free for all bashing I'll stop and leave and not be a part of it.
Im on the edge here in FG. I am very very careful what I say in a post, I wont reply to certain members decause my past experinces with them prove to do nothing but destroy the board. So I keep silent.
And thats the main issue that Themis brought up- members leave here, not becasue they dont fit in but because strong willed members push them off. Im just startign to see a strong willed member get thier cummupins and its good to see and instll confidence in th emods and the board itself.
The issue that Themis is talking about is whether the members feel confident that they will be treated fairly but also that strong willed opinionated bully members dont get to run rough over others.
* how do you know this to be true?
well i think you summed up there the very hard task the mods have and i think no matter what they do or which way it is done,, somebody will not be happy,, thats usually the way,, you cant please everyone all the time:rolleyes: I dont feel threatened at all in any way.. i dont feel i have to be careful what i post I do stop short of being peronally insulting or at least i try, so therfore i dont think i have anything to worry about. If i was a mod and had to read posts more or less saying the mods aint playing fair i would be annoyed and upset.
Im on the edge here in FG. I am very very careful what I say in a post, I wont reply to certain members decause my past experinces with them prove to do nothing but destroy the board. So I keep silent.
And thats the main issue that Themis brought up- members leave here, not becasue they dont fit in but because strong willed members push them off. Im just startign to see a strong willed member get thier cummupins and its good to see and instll confidence in th emods and the board itself.
The issue that Themis is talking about is whether the members feel confident that they will be treated fairly but also that strong willed opinionated bully members dont get to run rough over others.
* how do you know this to be true?
well i think you summed up there the very hard task the mods have
and i think no matter what they do or which way it is done,, somebody will not be happy,, thats usually the way,, you cant please everyone all the time:rolleyes: I dont feel threatened at all in any way.. i dont feel i have to be careful what i post I do stop short of being peronally insulting or at least i try, so therfore i dont think i have anything to worry about. If i was a mod and had to read posts more or less saying the mods aint playing fair i would be annoyed and upset.FOC THREAD PART1
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mrsK;1146189 wrote: Funny this should come up about the pm's.
No mod can read any pm's other then their own.
I was talking about this last week & contacted TS & asked the same question about pm's.
So in short, no, mods cannot read pm's:-6
Yes, that post threw me as well. PM are private and should remain so. We don;t all have access to email addys so the only way we can talk or message or ask any questions privately is in the PM's.
This is a forum for heavens sake. There are a lot of different people and we all have different opinions. That is the whole idea. No sense in getting upset with different trains of thought. Sure, sometimes different posts can be upsetting to what we think but that doesn't make the poster a bad person. It is sad to loose a member when his/her thoughts aren't what we would like to read. :-1
No mod can read any pm's other then their own.
I was talking about this last week & contacted TS & asked the same question about pm's.
So in short, no, mods cannot read pm's:-6
Yes, that post threw me as well. PM are private and should remain so. We don;t all have access to email addys so the only way we can talk or message or ask any questions privately is in the PM's.
This is a forum for heavens sake. There are a lot of different people and we all have different opinions. That is the whole idea. No sense in getting upset with different trains of thought. Sure, sometimes different posts can be upsetting to what we think but that doesn't make the poster a bad person. It is sad to loose a member when his/her thoughts aren't what we would like to read. :-1
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oscar;1146891 wrote: There is a mod on here and i won''t say who to save an argument who gets right up my nose. If a warning comes, their message is like a pompous school prefect showing off in the playground.
since you won't say who, perhaps you should take this up with the mod, rather than on an open forum.
since you won't say who, perhaps you should take this up with the mod, rather than on an open forum.
Life is just to short for drama.
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just wanted to add,, its been good chatting with you about this jester:D you and i post to each other very occasionally and usually with conflicting opinions,,, and yet we seem to be able to remain civil. If only more people had these basic manners we wouldnt need mods;):D
Im off to the hairdressers now bye bye:driving:
Im off to the hairdressers now bye bye:driving:
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Odie;1146965 wrote: since you won't say who, perhaps you should take this up with the mod, rather than on an open forum.
Or perhaps i could send pm's complaining about them as others have done to me :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:;);)
Or perhaps i could send pm's complaining about them as others have done to me :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:;);)
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I understand Jims reasons for leaving, but I don't know who or what was the final straw. I can tell you that I have been logging onto FG less and less, it seems no thread is safe from the same people chiming in and causing disruption, and taking over the thread. I'm not naming names cuz I don't wanna get banned, but several other members I've talked to have the same feelings as I do.
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Themis;1146616 wrote: Quit it with the lord tombstone nonsense.. members make the Forum dont you understand?
and some members get depressed to tears through the ignorance of idiots so my god it does upset me when good members leave and we are left with 18 mods
Ian, I can't believe the way you're talking to Chezzie. You're really rude to her. All she is trying to do is explain things to you.
and some members get depressed to tears through the ignorance of idiots so my god it does upset me when good members leave and we are left with 18 mods
Ian, I can't believe the way you're talking to Chezzie. You're really rude to her. All she is trying to do is explain things to you.
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Shellbell if you report the post/poster we can take a look at the issue. If you don't bring it to our attention we can't read minds nor assume a post/poster will cause a problem. Please give us something to work this is large forum with thousands of members we can't be every where.
[QUOTE]I understand Jims reasons for leaving, but I don't know who or what was the final straw. I can tell you that I have been logging onto FG less and less, it seems no thread is safe from the same people chiming in and causing disruption, and taking over the thread. I'm not naming names cuz I don't wanna get banned, but several other members I've talked to have the same feelings as I do.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I understand Jims reasons for leaving, but I don't know who or what was the final straw. I can tell you that I have been logging onto FG less and less, it seems no thread is safe from the same people chiming in and causing disruption, and taking over the thread. I'm not naming names cuz I don't wanna get banned, but several other members I've talked to have the same feelings as I do.[/QUOTE]
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Themis;1146658 wrote: I find it all very amusing 
just like life outside the window and not a life looking through the window,
Banning folks is an amusement of yours not mine... abide yourself
What is wrong with you?:rolleyes:
Chezzie has repeatedly tried and tried and tried to explain every single thing you have asked today and yesterday!:-5:-5
You are indeed a very rude person.
and you have the nerve to talk to her this way?
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just like life outside the window and not a life looking through the window,
Banning folks is an amusement of yours not mine... abide yourself
What is wrong with you?:rolleyes:
Chezzie has repeatedly tried and tried and tried to explain every single thing you have asked today and yesterday!:-5:-5
You are indeed a very rude person.
and you have the nerve to talk to her this way?
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Life is just to short for drama.
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Jester;1147305 wrote: I know it to be true because the poeple on my list of folks that left told me so or the made mention of it multiple times on the board..And the thing that's true is "members leave here, not becasue they dont fit in but because strong willed members push them off."
I don't believe you have a list which accurately reflects that condition.
Please send the list to the moderators, this dripping-acid lie is aimed at me and I take exception to it.
I don't believe you have a list which accurately reflects that condition.
Please send the list to the moderators, this dripping-acid lie is aimed at me and I take exception to it.
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Odie;1147289 wrote: What is wrong with you?:rolleyes:
Chezzie has repeatedly tried and tried and tried to explain every single thing you have asked today and yesterday!:-5:-5
You are indeed a very rude person.
and you have the nerve to talk to her this way?
that pic is funny! Sounds like me in real life!! :p
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Chezzie has repeatedly tried and tried and tried to explain every single thing you have asked today and yesterday!:-5:-5
You are indeed a very rude person.
and you have the nerve to talk to her this way?
that pic is funny! Sounds like me in real life!! :p
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sunny104;1149070 wrote: that pic is funny! Sounds like me in real life!! :p :wah:
me to!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
take if if you like:
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take if if you like:
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spot;1146574 wrote: And what would you know about ForumGarden's history, oscar?
Some will get more information from it than others. I still prefer woman having orgasms :wah:
Some will get more information from it than others. I still prefer woman having orgasms :wah:
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and i still want to know who upset jimbo
"To be foolish and to recognize that one is foolish, is better than to be foolish and imagine that one is wise."
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el guapo;1149477 wrote: and i still want to know who upset jimbo
Why not just ask him???
Why not just ask him???
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G#Gill;1145945 wrote: I received a PM this morning from Jimbo, in answer to my PM to him, and he asked me to put it on this thread so that everybody would, perhaps, understand things better.
thanks for your lovelly pm, i have always found you funny kind and fair ,just for the record i have not left because any one upset me ,it was I stopped having fun here,i got an infraction which may or not of been fair ,but if i cant post something nasty about two mass murderers and a pedo what is the point of me having an opinion i have many many good friends here and i miss them of course i do but i'm not about getting into rows i'm about having fun ,so gill my friend if you could post this on EL G'S who upset jimbo thread then you guys can all have peace
one last thing when you have held your dead child in your arms and you see other parents holding their dead children murdered by a bomb sent in by plane with your countries name on it ,you tend to think i know exactly how much pain those parents are in and you want to speak up for them and make the bombing stop
people of FG i will return one day when all the wars are over ,untill then take care jimbo
I also received a pm off Jim and he states in it clearly that he isn't upset with anyone on FG and NOBODY made him leave. I don't have Jimbo's permission to show the pm but I suggest you take it up with him as he cant say it any clearer.
thanks for your lovelly pm, i have always found you funny kind and fair ,just for the record i have not left because any one upset me ,it was I stopped having fun here,i got an infraction which may or not of been fair ,but if i cant post something nasty about two mass murderers and a pedo what is the point of me having an opinion i have many many good friends here and i miss them of course i do but i'm not about getting into rows i'm about having fun ,so gill my friend if you could post this on EL G'S who upset jimbo thread then you guys can all have peace
one last thing when you have held your dead child in your arms and you see other parents holding their dead children murdered by a bomb sent in by plane with your countries name on it ,you tend to think i know exactly how much pain those parents are in and you want to speak up for them and make the bombing stop
people of FG i will return one day when all the wars are over ,untill then take care jimbo
I also received a pm off Jim and he states in it clearly that he isn't upset with anyone on FG and NOBODY made him leave. I don't have Jimbo's permission to show the pm but I suggest you take it up with him as he cant say it any clearer.
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well i know some one did
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el guapo;1149483 wrote: well i know some one did Ditto
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