Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
March 13, 2009
How the frak does this happen?
And where the Hell were the police who were monitoring the offender via GPS?
Some people need to get their asses fired over this, post haste!
VANCOUVER, Washington — When 13-year-old Alycia Nipp didn’t come home from a trip to Wal-Mart, her family had no idea where she was, but a tracking device was transmitting the location of her alleged killer.
Her family thinks her free-spirited nature may be the reason she walked through a field popular with transients — a field she’d been warned to stay away from and where her body was found February 22.
Darrin Sanford, 30, was one of several homeless people living near the field in an abandoned home slated for demolition, police said.
He was convicted in 1998 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes and luring minors with sexual motivation; he was sentenced to probation, said a Clark County sheriff’s report. When he was released from jail in January, following a November probation violation, Sanford was fitted with a global positioning tracking unit on his ankle, according to the Washington Department of Corrections.
Sanford was wearing the device seven weeks later when he tried to rape Licy before beating and stabbing her in a field a couple of blocks from the street where she lived, according to police. (H/T - CNN)
Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
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Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
This is devastating and so unbelievable. The guy must have been aware that he wasn't being monitored despite the tracking device. What is the point of using these devices if the police are not going to actually monitor them?
Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
An undated photo of Alicia Nipp, 13 years old
Update:
Sex offender kills teen while under GPS monitoring, police say
Darrin Sanford may face death penalty in fatal beating, stabbing of Alycia Nipp, 13
Sex offender monitored via GPS, checked in with probation officer day before murder
Experts say GPS creates false sense of security; it's no "magic bullet or panacea"
Aunt says daughters keep asking if angels will bring cousin "Licy" back
By Eliott C. McLaughlin and Patrick Oppmann
CNN
VANCOUVER, Washington (CNN) -- When 13-year-old Alycia Nipp didn't come home from a trip to Wal-Mart, her family had no idea where she was, but a tracking device was transmitting the location of her alleged killer.
The quirky seventh-grader, who went by "Licy," could tell you the origin of every neon drinking straw in her collection and she "sewed buttons on everything," said her aunt, Amber Hager.
Her family thinks her free-spirited nature may be the reason she walked through a field popular with transients -- a field she'd been warned to stay away from and where her body was found February 22.
Licy's family had reason to be cautious. Hager was raped twice as a teen and Licy's grandmother was kidnapped as a child, Hager said, so the family was extra vigilant with Licy and Hager's young daughters.
"We all made Licy the promise that it would never happen to her. The cycle would end," said Hager, who is acting as family spokeswoman. "Now we're left wondering: What didn't we say? What didn't we do? How come she didn't listen?" Watch Hager advise parents to keep kids close »
Darrin Sanford, 30, was one of several homeless people living near the field in an abandoned home slated for demolition, police said.
He was convicted in 1998 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes and luring minors with sexual motivation; he was sentenced to probation, said a Clark County sheriff's report. When he was released from jail in January, following a November probation violation, Sanford was fitted with a global positioning tracking unit on his ankle, according to the Washington Department of Corrections. Learn more about the device Sanford wore »
Sanford was wearing the device seven weeks later when he tried to rape Licy before beating and stabbing her in a field a couple of blocks from the street where she lived, according to police.
Authorities said they used GPS to corroborate Sanford's confession. A Clark County judge this week postponed his arraignment until June so the defense and prosecution can prepare for death penalty arguments.
Sanford's defense attorney Michael Foister declined to comment on the allegations against his client.
Debate over GPS
The slaying rocked the enclave of Hazel Dell in Vancouver, a 15-minute drive from Portland, Oregon, and serves as fodder for those who claim GPS is used too broadly and bluntly as a tool for keeping tabs on offenders.
"They can't monitor it live, and even if you could monitor it live, him being in the field wouldn't have told you [if] he was murdering the girl," said Evan Mayo-Wilson, an Oxford University lecturer who has studied the use of GPS.
There are two types of GPS monitoring: active, in which the offender's whereabouts are surveyed in real-time, and passive, in which probation or parole officers check an offender's movements after the fact.
Sanford was passively monitored, said Anmarie Aylward, the Washington DOC's program administrator. Watch Aylward explain how Sanford was monitored »
Both types of GPS are important tools for law enforcement, Mayo-Wilson said, but the technology must be coupled with other efforts to reduce recidivism, including treatment programs, personal visits and interviews with neighbors, family members and employers.
Sex offenders should be assessed on a case-by-case basis, and supervision programs must be based on fluid assessments that weigh the likelihood of reoffense, said Peter Ibarra, a sociologist at the University of Illinois-Chicago who studies the use of GPS in stalking and domestic violence cases.
"You have to use it very responsibly," Ibarra said. "It's a technology that cannot stand alone, especially if you're thinking about using it with offenders who imperil the public."
Sanford was registered as a Level 3 sex offender, the category considered most likely to reoffend, according to the Clark County Sheriff's Office. He was listed as homeless on the state sex offender registry, one of 34 transient sex offenders in Clark County. There are eight homeless Level 3 offenders registered in Clark County. See how each state handles GPS monitoring of sex offenders »
Sanford was living in a vacant home near an overgrown field where Licy's parents sometimes played paintball. The field, littered with trash, has "No Dumping" signs along its periphery and is buttressed by fast-food joints, Chinese restaurants and strip malls. The air smells of frying oil.
Resident Nick Holden, whose daughter was Licy's friend, told The Oregonian newspaper that the field was a popular shortcut -- "a kid highway." Though it wasn't necessarily deemed unsafe, he told the paper, "you ask the kids to not go alone."
Licy was told just that, but on February 21, as she and a friend returned from Wal-Mart, Licy said she wanted to cut through the field. Her friend declined, Hager said.
Police: Sanford unsure of his weapon
Sanford told detectives he met Licy near the vacant homes and walked with her to an isolated area of the field, police said. There, he attempted to have intercourse with her "but wasn't able to complete the sexual act," according to the probable cause affidavit filed in court. Watch Sanford's mother say she wishes he was dead »
"After she giggled at him," continued the affidavit, "he was overcome with a violent rage and hit her with something in the back. She turned to face him and he kept hitting her, knocking her to the ground."
Sanford told police he wasn't sure what he hit her with -- maybe a stick, knife or beer bottle, the affidavit said. The 180-pound Sanford left the body but came back later and moved Licy, a scant 100 pounds, to an area where her stepfather found her early the next morning, according to the affidavit.
"His GPS unit verified that he was in the area and his movements," the affidavit said.
Attempts by CNN to reach Licy's mother and stepfather, Maranda and Jason Hannah, were unsuccessful.
On the day before his 20th birthday in 1998, Sanford was placed on probation. According to a sheriff's office report, a group of minors, ages 8 to 11, reported that Sanford had offered them money for oral sex. The youngsters fled, but Sanford approached them again in a sparsely wooded area of the playground, asking them if they wanted to go home with him to "play house," the report said.
Sanford violated his probation three times between November 2006 and November 2008, the DOC said. When he was released in January, he was required to check in daily with a probation officer, which he did the day before Licy's murder and the day after her body was found.
Technology, offenders misunderstood
Experts say GPS can create a false sense of security because its capabilities are overestimated. Jill Levenson, an associate professor of human sciences at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Florida, said many people believe it is "some magic bullet or panacea that prevents crimes."
Levenson also concurs with other experts who say the technology is used too sweepingly. Twenty-seven states have some mandatory requirement that the devices be used on sex offenders, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Only six states have no specific provisions for such monitoring. See data »
Most sex offenders are neither violent nor pedophiles, and they re-offend in about one of 20 cases, said Levenson, who studies sex crime policy.
Because the media focus on the most sensational crimes, politicians often focus their energies on combating the violent incidents rather than the more common occurrences, such as people being sexually assaulted by those they know, she said.
UIC's Ibarra called it a "knee-jerk reaction" by lawmakers. He said he notices that "legislators often propose this kind of [GPS] requirement in the aftermath of some notorious act."
Added Oxford's Mayo-Wilson, "[GPS] could be used effectively to help shape behavior, but it's being used too bluntly."
GPS is more likely to work with low-level offenders while the technology's deterrent effect on the most dangerous perpetrators is limited, Levenson said.
"[GPS] is not necessarily going to deter people from having sexually deviant intentions," she said. "Many crimes are more impulsive and opportunistic, and that level of thinking may not go into it."
Homelessness itself poses problems among sex offenders because unstable living conditions can increase recidivism, Levenson said. Many states have enacted laws limiting where sex offenders can live, forcing more offenders to the streets.
According to a 2007 report by the Council of State Governments, 29 states have residency restrictions for sex offenders. Washington, which the DOC says is home to about 300 homeless sex offenders, forbids them from living within 880 feet of a school or daycare.
An example of residency restrictions exacerbating the problem is in California, said Robert Coombs of the California Coalition Against Sexual Assault. Since 2007, when California implemented its version of Jessica's Law -- which bars registered sex offenders from living within 2,000 feet of a school, park or places where children congregate -- homelessness among paroled sex offenders spiked 800 percent, Coombs said.
In large metro areas like Los Angeles and San Francisco, "the concentration of schools and parks is so high, the entire jurisdiction becomes largely off limits for housing," Coombs said.
The Justice Department did not respond to repeated requests to discuss the number of homeless sex offenders in the nation, but in California there are about 65,000 registered sex offenders, of which 3,267 are homeless, according to California's Sex Offender Management Board.
It's not only costly and unfeasible to monitor sex offenders, but allowing them to remain homeless increases their stress levels and instability, Coombs said. It makes for a "really dangerous cocktail when it comes to public safety," he said.
Connecticut reviews GPS policy
Bill Carbone, executive director of the Court Support Services Division of Connecticut's Judicial Branch, said the state recently reviewed its use of GPS.
Connecticut, which monitors more than 2,000 offenders, revamped its GPS monitoring after acknowledging the technology had its shortcomings, including error messages, lost signals and susceptibility to manipulation, Carbone said.
Coombs and Carbone also note that charging the devices can be problematic when the offender has no home.
"To some extent, it's been oversold and misunderstood," Carbone said. "I think it is a tool -- not the sole tool -- needed for proper supervision of offenders."
Hager said she is pleased authorities were able to use Sanford's GPS bracelet to make a swift arrest in her niece's slaying, but it makes her angry that a homeless, convicted sex offender was allowed to hang out in a field frequented by children.
Licy's family may never know why she cut through the field, and many other questions about her murder may remain unanswered. Hager said her niece's accused killer should answer one of them.
"My daughters keep asking, 'Why did the angels take Licy? If we pray hard enough will they bring her back?' " Hager said. "I just want to tell him, 'You explain to my daughters what happened to their cousin.' "
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Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
WTF? how could this have happened?:-5:-5
Life is just to short for drama.
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Odie;1157209 wrote: WTF? how could this have happened?:-5:-5
Because knowing the location of a previous offender, in an area close to where he lives, without knowing the location of any potential victims, rings no alarm bells no matter how closely the GPS is monitored.
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
Because knowing the location of a previous offender, in an area close to where he lives, without knowing the location of any potential victims, rings no alarm bells no matter how closely the GPS is monitored.
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
Bryn Mawr;1157221 wrote: Because knowing the location of a previous offender, in an area close to where he lives, without knowing the location of any potential victims, rings no alarm bells no matter how closely the GPS is monitored.
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
but he should have been monitored.
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
but he should have been monitored.
Life is just to short for drama.
Sex Offender Kills While Under Monitoring
There are two types of GPS monitoring: active, in which the offender's whereabouts are surveyed in real-time, and passive, in which probation or parole officers check an offender's movements after the fact.
Sanford was passively monitored, said Anmarie Aylward, the Washington DOC's program administrator.
Sanford was registered as a Level 3 sex offender, the category considered most likely to reoffend, according to the Clark County Sheriff's Office. He was listed as homeless on the state sex offender registry, one of 34 transient sex offenders in Clark County.
Whoever was responsible for applying the passive mode GPS system to Sanford should be indited as an accessory to the murder.
The police would still be trying to find out who had killed Licy if Sanford hadn't confessed.
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Odie;1157224 wrote: but he should have been monitored.
He was being monitored - they know where he was at every point in the day - mostly within a few hundred yards of his home.
What they did not know was the location of every potential victim.
Would you have every person who might possible be attacked by a maniac fitted with a GPS tag so that the authorities could monitor whether they are close to a potential attacker? That is the only way that GPS tagging could possibly ensure their safety.
He was being monitored - they know where he was at every point in the day - mostly within a few hundred yards of his home.
What they did not know was the location of every potential victim.
Would you have every person who might possible be attacked by a maniac fitted with a GPS tag so that the authorities could monitor whether they are close to a potential attacker? That is the only way that GPS tagging could possibly ensure their safety.
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Bryn Mawr;1157234 wrote: He was being monitored - they know where he was at every point in the day - mostly within a few hundred yards of his home.
What they did not know was the location of every potential victim.
Would you have every person who might possible be attacked by a maniac fitted with a GPS tag so that the authorities could monitor whether they are close to a potential attacker? That is the only way that GPS tagging could possibly ensure their safety.
No, but how about this ? Put repeat offenders in jail where there are no innocent ' potential victims '. Now that just might be a cure for these maniacs that refuse to 'play' by the rules the courts and law makers set.
Sanford's History
Darrin Eugene Sanford was convicted in 1998 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes and two counts of luring minors with sexual motivation. He was placed on probation, which he violated three times before he was arrested in connection with Alycia Nipp's murder:
• On November 15, 2006, Sanford was jailed for failing to register as a sex offender. He was released July 31, 2008, and ordered to wear a GPS anklet.
• He was then detained August 20 for being in contact with a minor and failing to register. He was released October 19, again with an ankle bracelet. • On November 24, authorities arrested Sanford for a misdemeanor property violation. He was released with a GPS device January 3, just 49 days before Licy's murder.
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On the day before his 20th birthday in 1998, Sanford was placed on probation. According to a sheriff's office report, a group of minors, ages 8 to 11, reported that Sanford had offered them money for oral sex. The youngsters fled, but Sanford approached them again in a sparsely wooded area of the playground, asking them if they wanted to go home with him to "play house," the report said.
Sanford violated his probation three times between November 2006 and November 2008, the DOC said. When he was released in January, he was required to check in daily with a probation officer, which he did the day before Licy's murder and the day after her body was found.
How many children have to die, how many lives do these monsters have to ruin before we stop treating them with 'kid gloves' ???:mad:
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What they did not know was the location of every potential victim.
Would you have every person who might possible be attacked by a maniac fitted with a GPS tag so that the authorities could monitor whether they are close to a potential attacker? That is the only way that GPS tagging could possibly ensure their safety.
No, but how about this ? Put repeat offenders in jail where there are no innocent ' potential victims '. Now that just might be a cure for these maniacs that refuse to 'play' by the rules the courts and law makers set.
Sanford's History
Darrin Eugene Sanford was convicted in 1998 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes and two counts of luring minors with sexual motivation. He was placed on probation, which he violated three times before he was arrested in connection with Alycia Nipp's murder:
• On November 15, 2006, Sanford was jailed for failing to register as a sex offender. He was released July 31, 2008, and ordered to wear a GPS anklet.
• He was then detained August 20 for being in contact with a minor and failing to register. He was released October 19, again with an ankle bracelet. • On November 24, authorities arrested Sanford for a misdemeanor property violation. He was released with a GPS device January 3, just 49 days before Licy's murder.
heres more
On the day before his 20th birthday in 1998, Sanford was placed on probation. According to a sheriff's office report, a group of minors, ages 8 to 11, reported that Sanford had offered them money for oral sex. The youngsters fled, but Sanford approached them again in a sparsely wooded area of the playground, asking them if they wanted to go home with him to "play house," the report said.
Sanford violated his probation three times between November 2006 and November 2008, the DOC said. When he was released in January, he was required to check in daily with a probation officer, which he did the day before Licy's murder and the day after her body was found.
How many children have to die, how many lives do these monsters have to ruin before we stop treating them with 'kid gloves' ???:mad:
:-5 :-5There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
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scholle-kid;1157243 wrote: No, but how about this ? Put repeat offenders in jail where there are no innocent ' potential victims '. Now that just might be a cure for these maniacs that refuse to 'play' by the rules the courts and law makers set.
Sanford's History
Darrin Eugene Sanford was convicted in 1998 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes and two counts of luring minors with sexual motivation. He was placed on probation, which he violated three times before he was arrested in connection with Alycia Nipp's murder:
• On November 15, 2006, Sanford was jailed for failing to register as a sex offender. He was released July 31, 2008, and ordered to wear a GPS anklet.
• He was then detained August 20 for being in contact with a minor and failing to register. He was released October 19, again with an ankle bracelet. • On November 24, authorities arrested Sanford for a misdemeanor property violation. He was released with a GPS device January 3, just 49 days before Licy's murder.
heres more
On the day before his 20th birthday in 1998, Sanford was placed on probation. According to a sheriff's office report, a group of minors, ages 8 to 11, reported that Sanford had offered them money for oral sex. The youngsters fled, but Sanford approached them again in a sparsely wooded area of the playground, asking them if they wanted to go home with him to "play house," the report said.
Sanford violated his probation three times between November 2006 and November 2008, the DOC said. When he was released in January, he was required to check in daily with a probation officer, which he did the day before Licy's murder and the day after her body was found.
How many children have to die, how many lives do these monsters have to ruin before we stop treating them with 'kid gloves' ???:mad: :-5 :-5
Is that not what I said?
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
The idea that you can allow a predatory animal to roam free amongst herds of their prey just by monitoring where they are with no reference to the position of their prey is unbelievable.
Place the blame where it should be - with the people who implemented the idea, not with the poor sods who are trying to make it work on the ground.
Sanford's History
Darrin Eugene Sanford was convicted in 1998 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes and two counts of luring minors with sexual motivation. He was placed on probation, which he violated three times before he was arrested in connection with Alycia Nipp's murder:
• On November 15, 2006, Sanford was jailed for failing to register as a sex offender. He was released July 31, 2008, and ordered to wear a GPS anklet.
• He was then detained August 20 for being in contact with a minor and failing to register. He was released October 19, again with an ankle bracelet. • On November 24, authorities arrested Sanford for a misdemeanor property violation. He was released with a GPS device January 3, just 49 days before Licy's murder.
heres more
On the day before his 20th birthday in 1998, Sanford was placed on probation. According to a sheriff's office report, a group of minors, ages 8 to 11, reported that Sanford had offered them money for oral sex. The youngsters fled, but Sanford approached them again in a sparsely wooded area of the playground, asking them if they wanted to go home with him to "play house," the report said.
Sanford violated his probation three times between November 2006 and November 2008, the DOC said. When he was released in January, he was required to check in daily with a probation officer, which he did the day before Licy's murder and the day after her body was found.
How many children have to die, how many lives do these monsters have to ruin before we stop treating them with 'kid gloves' ???:mad:
:-5 :-5Is that not what I said?
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
The idea that you can allow a predatory animal to roam free amongst herds of their prey just by monitoring where they are with no reference to the position of their prey is unbelievable.
Place the blame where it should be - with the people who implemented the idea, not with the poor sods who are trying to make it work on the ground.
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Bryn Mawr;1157221 wrote: Because knowing the location of a previous offender, in an area close to where he lives, without knowing the location of any potential victims, rings no alarm bells no matter how closely the GPS is monitored.
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
Easier solution...........with no blame to have to be bandied about.....and innocents harmed.
Lock the pedophiles up.
It is the concept that is at fault rather than the application - no good blaming the people doing the job, blame the people who set up the system.
Easier solution...........with no blame to have to be bandied about.....and innocents harmed.
Lock the pedophiles up.
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KOB.com - Fierro gets 198 years for molesting daughter
Just this last week here in New Mexico there was a man who for 8 years had been molesting his stepdaughter, he started when she was 6 years old and she gave birth to his baby when she was 14 years old. The whole time he was telling her that if she told any one what he was doing he would kill her. He was sentenced to 198 years last week. The girl is an adult now ( I am not sure what age) lets say for arguments sake she is 18 , that means it has taken the courts over 4 years to find this guy guilty and sentence him. I wonder how many tax dollars were spent on 4 years of trial? when common sense should of said , do a DNA test on the guy and on the baby . boom. case solved he's a monster. 2 weeks for the test results ( price of test) new rope $20.00, cotton wood tree down by the river. all done.
When did the 'public ' become so mixed up that we allow our court system to let these monsters have ankle bracelets instead of rope neck ties?
This guy Sanford for the past 10 years has broken every rule spit on every 'chance' the courts have set and still he was free to do the worst . now maybe the courts will do what they should of done 10 years ago.
I am so angry about this sort of thing.
I apologize to the OP , I am not trying to hi jack your thread .it just this other case is so fresh in my mind.
Just this last week here in New Mexico there was a man who for 8 years had been molesting his stepdaughter, he started when she was 6 years old and she gave birth to his baby when she was 14 years old. The whole time he was telling her that if she told any one what he was doing he would kill her. He was sentenced to 198 years last week. The girl is an adult now ( I am not sure what age) lets say for arguments sake she is 18 , that means it has taken the courts over 4 years to find this guy guilty and sentence him. I wonder how many tax dollars were spent on 4 years of trial? when common sense should of said , do a DNA test on the guy and on the baby . boom. case solved he's a monster. 2 weeks for the test results ( price of test) new rope $20.00, cotton wood tree down by the river. all done.
When did the 'public ' become so mixed up that we allow our court system to let these monsters have ankle bracelets instead of rope neck ties?
This guy Sanford for the past 10 years has broken every rule spit on every 'chance' the courts have set and still he was free to do the worst . now maybe the courts will do what they should of done 10 years ago.
I am so angry about this sort of thing.
I apologize to the OP , I am not trying to hi jack your thread .it just this other case is so fresh in my mind.
There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
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scholle-kid;1157322 wrote: KOB.com - Fierro gets 198 years for molesting daughter
Just this last week here in New Mexico there was a man who for 8 years had been molesting his stepdaughter, he started when she was 6 years old and she gave birth to his baby when she was 14 years old. The whole time he was telling her that if she told any one what he was doing he would kill her. He was sentenced to 198 years last week. The girl is an adult now ( I am not sure what age) lets say for arguments sake she is 18 , that means it has taken the courts over 4 years to find this guy guilty and sentence him. I wonder how many tax dollars were spent on 4 years of trial? when common sense should of said , do a DNA test on the guy and on the baby . boom. case solved he's a monster. 2 weeks for the test results ( price of test) new rope $20.00, cotton wood tree down by the river. all done.
When did the 'public ' become so mixed up that we allow our court system to let these monsters have ankle bracelets instead of rope neck ties?
This guy Sanford for the past 10 years has broken every rule spit on every 'chance' the courts have set and still he was free to do the worst . now maybe the courts will do what they should of done 10 years ago.
I am so angry about this sort of thing.
I apologize to the OP , I am not trying to hi jack your thread .it just this other case is so fresh in my mind.
Sad sad............
I live in NM also and Wish there was a death penalty for these type of pervs.
Oh yah, what about all the bodies being dug up?
Just this last week here in New Mexico there was a man who for 8 years had been molesting his stepdaughter, he started when she was 6 years old and she gave birth to his baby when she was 14 years old. The whole time he was telling her that if she told any one what he was doing he would kill her. He was sentenced to 198 years last week. The girl is an adult now ( I am not sure what age) lets say for arguments sake she is 18 , that means it has taken the courts over 4 years to find this guy guilty and sentence him. I wonder how many tax dollars were spent on 4 years of trial? when common sense should of said , do a DNA test on the guy and on the baby . boom. case solved he's a monster. 2 weeks for the test results ( price of test) new rope $20.00, cotton wood tree down by the river. all done.
When did the 'public ' become so mixed up that we allow our court system to let these monsters have ankle bracelets instead of rope neck ties?
This guy Sanford for the past 10 years has broken every rule spit on every 'chance' the courts have set and still he was free to do the worst . now maybe the courts will do what they should of done 10 years ago.
I am so angry about this sort of thing.
I apologize to the OP , I am not trying to hi jack your thread .it just this other case is so fresh in my mind.
Sad sad............
I live in NM also and Wish there was a death penalty for these type of pervs.
Oh yah, what about all the bodies being dug up?
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Bryn Mawr;1157234 wrote: He was being monitored - they know where he was at every point in the day - mostly within a few hundred yards of his home.
What they did not know was the location of every potential victim.
Would you have every person who might possible be attacked by a maniac fitted with a GPS tag so that the authorities could monitor whether they are close to a potential attacker? That is the only way that GPS tagging could possibly ensure their safety.
didn't ensure her safety did it?
What they did not know was the location of every potential victim.
Would you have every person who might possible be attacked by a maniac fitted with a GPS tag so that the authorities could monitor whether they are close to a potential attacker? That is the only way that GPS tagging could possibly ensure their safety.
didn't ensure her safety did it?
Life is just to short for drama.
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BTS;1157338 wrote: Sad sad............
I live in NM also and Wish there was a death penalty for these type of pervs.
Oh yah, what about all the bodies being dug up?
I am over 70 miles South of where those young women are being uncovered and i tell you something it's still pretty freaky from over 70 miles away. if I can be thankful for any one thing about my daughter's death ,that is ,that at no time did I have to deal with what the family members of those 13 girls have had for the years they have been missing.. it is so vry heartbreaking ,my thoughts are with them .
I live in NM also and Wish there was a death penalty for these type of pervs.
Oh yah, what about all the bodies being dug up?
I am over 70 miles South of where those young women are being uncovered and i tell you something it's still pretty freaky from over 70 miles away. if I can be thankful for any one thing about my daughter's death ,that is ,that at no time did I have to deal with what the family members of those 13 girls have had for the years they have been missing.. it is so vry heartbreaking ,my thoughts are with them .
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Odie;1157352 wrote: didn't ensure her safety did it?
That is what I'm saying!
The system does not and cannot, by its very nature, work and the blame for the harm that has resulted should be laid at the door of those that implemented the system not, as the original article appeared to try to do, with the people who were running the system at the time.
That is what I'm saying!
The system does not and cannot, by its very nature, work and the blame for the harm that has resulted should be laid at the door of those that implemented the system not, as the original article appeared to try to do, with the people who were running the system at the time.