Students Allowed To Curse at Teachers

[chonsigirl]

I read this article, and was very surprised. I certainly do not allow improper language in my classroom, by students or myself! Am I an old fuddy duddy?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/

U.K. school tailors policy to foul mouths

Students can use 'f-word' up to 5 times per lesson

MSNBC

Updated: 3:32 p.m. ET Aug. 30, 2005

As children throughout the country head back to school, many of them are probably muttering a few choice words about the prospect of returning to the classroom and the expected onslaught of homework. But can they utter those choice words and swear at their teachers? If they’re heading back to school in one town in England, then yes, they can.

According to a report in the U.K.’s Daily Mail, one school in the town of Wellingborough is allowing pupils to swear at teachers, providing they only do so no more than five times in a class. A tally of how many times the f-word is used will be kept and if the class exceeds the limit, they will be “spoken” to, the newspaper reported.

The school believes the policy will improve behavior, but parents and parliamentary members have condemned the rule and warned it would backfire.

According to the Daily Mail, assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15- and 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.

"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," the Daily Mail quoted White as writing in a letter. "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."

According to the report, headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the policy.

But Conservative member of parliament Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on “Alice in Wonderland reasoning,” the Daily Mail reported. “What next? Do we allow people to speed five times or burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you improve something by discouraging it,” Widdecombe was quoted as saying.

The newspaper also reported that the 1,130-pupil school plans to send “praise postcards” to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for lessons.

© 2005 MSNBC Interactive

[minks]

chonsigirl wrote: I read this article, and was very surprised. I certainly do not allow improper language in my classroom, by students or myself! Am I an old fuddy duddy?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9132814/

U.K. school tailors policy to foul mouths

Students can use 'f-word' up to 5 times per lesson

MSNBC

Updated: 3:32 p.m. ET Aug. 30, 2005

As children throughout the country head back to school, many of them are probably muttering a few choice words about the prospect of returning to the classroom and the expected onslaught of homework. But can they utter those choice words and swear at their teachers? If they’re heading back to school in one town in England, then yes, they can.

According to a report in the U.K.’s Daily Mail, one school in the town of Wellingborough is allowing pupils to swear at teachers, providing they only do so no more than five times in a class. A tally of how many times the f-word is used will be kept and if the class exceeds the limit, they will be “spoken” to, the newspaper reported.

The school believes the policy will improve behavior, but parents and parliamentary members have condemned the rule and warned it would backfire.

According to the Daily Mail, assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15- and 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.

"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," the Daily Mail quoted White as writing in a letter. "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."

According to the report, headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the policy.

But Conservative member of parliament Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on “Alice in Wonderland reasoning,” the Daily Mail reported. “What next? Do we allow people to speed five times or burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you improve something by discouraging it,” Widdecombe was quoted as saying.

The newspaper also reported that the 1,130-pupil school plans to send “praise postcards” to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for lessons.

© 2005 MSNBC Interactive


Oiy proof teachers have one heck of a tough job ahead yet again. Praise to all you guys Lord knows your doing an admirable job, and us parents are greatful as can be.

[Tombstone]

I know I've said this many times, but it's letting the inmates run the asylum.

What a crazy policy.

[abbey]

Well i personally think its a ****ing disgrace, what ****ing authority allows its ****ing

students to ****ing well swear up to five times a ****ing day!!!

[Betty Boop]

abbey wrote: Well i personally think its a ****ing disgrace, what ****ing authority allows its ****ing

students to ****ing well swear up to five times a ****ing day!!!




Abbey, you better wait outside after class, the teacher wants a word with you!!





Personally I'd like to wash your mouth out with soap and water, just like my parents did to me!:D

[abbey]

Betty Boop wrote: Abbey, you better wait outside after class, the teacher wants a word with you!!

Personally I'd like to wash your mouth out with soap and water, just like my parents did to me!:D






Yes Miss, Sorry miss.

[Frederick]

I too read the article in the Daily Mail, and wondered just what this new style of teaching is all about. Like most people in their mid-fifties, I was brought up in a conventional school environment where all desks faced forward and as the master entered the room you would all stand and say "Good morning, Sir." There was nothing special about my school, it was the norm. If you misbehaved you were put in your place, and if you were disruptive, you got the cane. Whatever he or she managed to teach you, YOU RESPECTED YOUR TEACHER, calling them Sir or Miss. If you swore at them, you got the cane, and rightly so!

Unfortunately, self-respect and respect for your elders started to go out of the window in the mid-seventies, with the decline of the shirt and tie and the more casual, "well let's talk it over." approach, where Sir now ambled into class weraing a roll-neck sweater sporting a CND badge, trying to treat his pupil like his equal. Far from raising the standards of education, this dumning down approach to be created a situation where the student then treated his teacher with contempt, and bad language became common place. IF A SCHOOL TEACHER IN AN ATTEMPT TO WIN RESPECT FOR HIS/HER PUPILS TRIES TO TREAT THEM AS EQUALS, WHO IS THE STUDENT TO TURN TO??

[lady cop]

nice to see you back here Frederick! ...one of my teachers was an Auschwitz survivor and the other students would make fun of his English...i would be so infuriated at their ignorance! to me that was worse than cursing or bad manners. they should have been thrashed.

[Betty Boop]

Frederick wrote: I too read the article in the Daily Mail, and wondered just what this new style of teaching is all about. Like most people in their mid-fifties, I was brought up in a conventional school environment where all desks faced forward and as the master entered the room you would all stand and say "Good morning, Sir." There was nothing special about my school, it was the norm. If you misbehaved you were put in your place, and if you were disruptive, you got the cane. Whatever he or she managed to teach you, YOU RESPECTED YOUR TEACHER, calling them Sir or Miss. If you swore at them, you got the cane, and rightly so!

Unfortunately, self-respect and respect for your elders started to go out of the window in the mid-seventies, with the decline of the shirt and tie and the more casual, "well let's talk it over." approach, where Sir now ambled into class weraing a roll-neck sweater sporting a CND badge, trying to treat his pupil like his equal. Far from raising the standards of education, this dumning down approach to be created a situation where the student then treated his teacher with contempt, and bad language became common place. IF A SCHOOL TEACHER IN AN ATTEMPT TO WIN RESPECT FOR HIS/HER PUPILS TRIES TO TREAT THEM AS EQUALS, WHO IS THE STUDENT TO TURN TO??


Not sure I'd aggree with it stemming from the seventies, when I was going to school during the eighties we still had respect for our teachers and elders, but maybe that was down to parenting??

Is this reverse psychology? They're going to do it any way so lets just let them do it?

One problem I can see is the teacher will spend more time marking tallies on the blackboard (or should that be whiteboard!) than anything else, it will become one big game for the pupils!

[Accountable]

Kids like me will walk into the classroom, find out about the new rules, and say, "I get to say the F word? Alright! I mean All F***ing right!" Then at the end of the session: "I see by the board i owe you 3 more F***s. There's one!"



Way too much power being given to kids.



I've also heard schools are offering cash & prizes for kids to show up for class. Not succeed, mind you, just enter the room!

[Jives]

Frederick wrote: Whatever he or she managed to teach you, YOU RESPECTED YOUR TEACHER, calling them Sir or Miss. If you swore at them, you got the cane, and rightly so!


Dude, you are my new hero.