Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
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Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
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At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
Yes, its a harsh enough budget; but I thought it would be worse to be honest. There will be a series of hard budgets now, to try and pay for the bills of the last 10 years of consumerist nonsense, and also the madness of the banking system.
I really don't have much time for this government we have, and I have no idea whether this budget will do any good whatsoever, but I hope it does somehow. I want to do my bit to save the country from economic ruin but I don't want Fianna Fail in government anymore, I do not feel any allegiance to them.
Its a grim lesson though for everyone in Ireland who thought that the party could go on indefinitly, and of course its going to be poorest who once again will suffer most.
I really don't have much time for this government we have, and I have no idea whether this budget will do any good whatsoever, but I hope it does somehow. I want to do my bit to save the country from economic ruin but I don't want Fianna Fail in government anymore, I do not feel any allegiance to them.
Its a grim lesson though for everyone in Ireland who thought that the party could go on indefinitly, and of course its going to be poorest who once again will suffer most.
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
The pain¦ the pain¦
The issue (in my opinion) in Ireland is not the raising of taxes. OK nobody likes it, but we are a small country and we have had it pretty good for a while. These tax increases will definitely hurt people who are already struggling with high mortgages and debt, but we as a nation cannot afford to go bankrupt.
The issue that this government will not face up to, and why they do not have the confidence of the public, remains to be the lack of accountability in dealing with what happened in this country and the levels of corruption that remain unresolved.
Will these taxes further feed and benefit those who got us into this situation??
Take for example the new ‘government agency’ that will be managing the bad assets of the banks, in principle this is not a bad idea, however there is another agency called ‘The Financial Regulator’ who suppose to be managing and regulating the banking activities during the time that the banks were involved in behaviors that in other countries people would be jailed for.
The agency failed in its responsibilities and no one has been held accountable for this. And now we are suppose to put our faith in this new agency?? Which one of their boys club cronies will be put in charge of running this agency?? Probably one of their pals from Anglo Irish¦.
Until this government (by the way this included the opposition who is sickening me with their ongoing political posturing while doing nothing to help this country), shows the world that they are brave enough to take down and deal with the corruption that brought this country to its knees , there will be no confidence in this country no matter what tax adjustments and policies they introduce.
The issue (in my opinion) in Ireland is not the raising of taxes. OK nobody likes it, but we are a small country and we have had it pretty good for a while. These tax increases will definitely hurt people who are already struggling with high mortgages and debt, but we as a nation cannot afford to go bankrupt.
The issue that this government will not face up to, and why they do not have the confidence of the public, remains to be the lack of accountability in dealing with what happened in this country and the levels of corruption that remain unresolved.
Will these taxes further feed and benefit those who got us into this situation??
Take for example the new ‘government agency’ that will be managing the bad assets of the banks, in principle this is not a bad idea, however there is another agency called ‘The Financial Regulator’ who suppose to be managing and regulating the banking activities during the time that the banks were involved in behaviors that in other countries people would be jailed for.
The agency failed in its responsibilities and no one has been held accountable for this. And now we are suppose to put our faith in this new agency?? Which one of their boys club cronies will be put in charge of running this agency?? Probably one of their pals from Anglo Irish¦.
Until this government (by the way this included the opposition who is sickening me with their ongoing political posturing while doing nothing to help this country), shows the world that they are brave enough to take down and deal with the corruption that brought this country to its knees , there will be no confidence in this country no matter what tax adjustments and policies they introduce.
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Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
I was really sorry to read of this Mike and galbally....... Jeeeees..... we moan about Brown and Darling but we haven't reached this level yet. It'll be the vulnerable that suffer, the old and young. I hate to be the voice of doom and gloom but what next? Cut backs in Education and health?
Many critisise Brown for the borrowing but there is huge investment here in the infrastructure but of course, these things don't happen over-night and it will take it's time to come to fruition. This seems really harsh.:(
Many critisise Brown for the borrowing but there is huge investment here in the infrastructure but of course, these things don't happen over-night and it will take it's time to come to fruition. This seems really harsh.
:(At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
"The issue that this government will not face up to, and why they do not have the confidence of the public, remains to be the lack of accountability in dealing with what happened in this country and the levels of corruption that remain unresolved."
Indeed, the same can be said of the situation here in the United States.
Indeed, the same can be said of the situation here in the United States.
Life is a Highway. Let's share the Commute.
Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
Oscar, I am not being smart or anything, but I have to say that what is happening in Ireland today will be something that the UK will have to face up to at some stage, as both countries have essentially been run as "property markets with governments" for the past decade or so. The UK is in some ways in an even worse position, as so much of its economy is the City of London, and its discredited banks, also of course the pound is vunerable to the level of government debt that is building up in the UK because of recent UK Government stimulus spending. That could foster a complete collpase in the British currency and massive inflation (as so much is imported into the UK now, which is no longer a major manufacturing centre and also imports much of the food for its 68 million people from abroad).
As I have said before we are in a very big mess, mostly caused by Fianna Fail and their friends in the banks and property development. The advantages Ireland has are that it has a small population, a very well educated workforce, the Island can feed itself, and it is a more fully integrated member of the EU being in the Eurozone. Britain has some advantages as well, its all swings and roundabouts, my own view is that all European countries need to work together to get through this, especially the big ones of Germany, France, and the UK. It would be a lot easier if the UK was already in the Eurozone, but it isn't and that's not going to happen for the forseeable future, so we will have to deal with the situation as is.
As I have said before we are in a very big mess, mostly caused by Fianna Fail and their friends in the banks and property development. The advantages Ireland has are that it has a small population, a very well educated workforce, the Island can feed itself, and it is a more fully integrated member of the EU being in the Eurozone. Britain has some advantages as well, its all swings and roundabouts, my own view is that all European countries need to work together to get through this, especially the big ones of Germany, France, and the UK. It would be a lot easier if the UK was already in the Eurozone, but it isn't and that's not going to happen for the forseeable future, so we will have to deal with the situation as is.
"We are never so happy, never so unhappy, as we imagine"
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
Le Rochefoucauld.
"A smack in the face settles all arguments, then you can move on kid."
My dad 1986.
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Irish government halves benifit and raises taxes
Galbally;1172153 wrote: Oscar, I am not being smart or anything, . You, be smart?........ nooooooooooooooooooooo
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon