Unbelievable!

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:18 am

I cant believe how insensitive some people can be. Also the woman should have been sent an ambulance who knos what kind of complications she could have had:-5

'Keep your dead baby in a fridge' nurse tells woman who had miscarriage - mirror.co.uk

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:24 am

kazalala;1181442 wrote: I cant believe how insensitive some people can be. Also the woman should have been sent an ambulance who knos what kind of complications she could have had:-5

'Keep your dead baby in a fridge' nurse tells woman who had miscarriage - mirror.co.uk

Could you imagine? What on earth were those nurses thinking?:-5 I hope that poor mum sues the daylights out of that hospital. Yes, they should have called for an ambulance right away as the mother's health is also on the line.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:31 am

kazalala;1181442 wrote: I cant believe how insensitive some people can be. Also the woman should have been sent an ambulance who knos what kind of complications she could have had:-5

'Keep your dead baby in a fridge' nurse tells woman who had miscarriage - mirror.co.ukWhat on earth is this country coming to fgs and our NHS that is costing us all more money in taxes and getting less and less service as this has proved.We do not get our NHS free as some seem to think....nothing in this country is free and most of us have our tax bills to prove that.....still what do the fat cats care as long as there ok and get all their little perks.The treatment shown here is beyond belief.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:41 am

qsducks;1181452 wrote: Could you imagine? What on earth were those nurses thinking?:-5 I hope that poor mum sues the daylights out of that hospital. Yes, they should have called for an ambulance right away as the mother's health is also on the line.
Exactly right Ducky:(

Carolly;1181455 wrote: What on earth is this country coming to fgs and our NHS that is costing us all more money in taxes and getting less and less service as this has proved.We do not get our NHS free as some seem to think....nothing in this country is free and most of us have our tax bills to prove that.....still what do the fat cats care as long as there ok and get all their little perks.The treatment shown here is beyond belief.

i know Carol ... its beyond belief to me that someone would say that?:mad:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:45 am

kazalala;1181466 wrote: Exactly right Ducky:(

i know Carol ... its beyond belief to me that someone would say that?:mad:

Where is the outrage?

Post by **Sunshine** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:51 am

what a load of crap. This poor woman is tramatized enough as it is. In the fridge? what the ****!!!!!! So what is she supposed to do, bring her poor babe in to the appointment with her? I would be stark raving mad by then.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:52 am

kazalala;1181466 wrote:

i know Carol ... its beyond belief to me that someone would say that?:mad:Kaz makes my blood boil tbh.As I get older I see things to do with the NHS that makes me cringe.Of course you hear also of good things but in this day and age certain things shouldn't b e happening.Chris's wound is still leaking after having his op nearly 2 years ago and then going in again to put it right....now his been told he may have to live with it as another op could be dangerous....I really dont get it fgs.Anyway Im going off topic slightly and just wanna say....what would have been said if it would have happened to a well known person....or even an MPs wife

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:52 am

Sunshine;1181475 wrote: what a load of crap. This poor woman is tramatized enough as it is. In the fridge? what the ****!!!!!! So what is she supposed to do, bring her poor babe in to the appointment with her? I would be stark raving mad by then.

Me too!:-5:-5 What if you had a heart attack, would the stupid nurses tell you "oh just go die":mad:

Post by **Sunshine** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:57 am

I think I would drive to the hospital and demand to be seen. She needs help too if she miscarried. Bleeding and all. What kind of outfit is this anyway?????:mad:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 am

qsducks;1181477 wrote: Me too!:-5:-5 What if you had a heart attack, would the stupid nurses tell you "oh just go die":mad:My own Mother was released from hospital and I was told by the local nurse she should never have been.......she was dead the next day.My mother in law got told 3 times that her bowl cancer op was cancelled.....she died alone of a heart attack after she had recieved the last letter from them....oh yes but what about my hubby......wife.....child I can hear people shout and yes as ive said we all know about the many people who owe their lives to our NHS but the ones that didnt make it also deserved that chance.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:17 am

thats the sad thing about all this ,,, just too many stories to tell,,, yes nothing is perfect and mistakes can be made,,, but like i said ,,, just too many tales to tell.. tells you things are slipping dreadfully:(

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:27 am

This brings tears to my eyes....!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really can't test my nerves with this extreme abuse of authority/stupidity.

The stupid Nurse will be transferred - the Hosp. will eventually pay out $$$..

and so what - this young lady & what she just experienced will be a trauma that'll stay with her forever... unfortunate trauma

did any one think she could've bleed to death - then to open your freezer daily until her appt......!!!!

I just can't stand this - I wish this young lady knew me & would've called me

I would've been HELL ON WHEELS & she would've been seen..

and I'd give some HELL lessons to others....

Unbelievable is right...

Patsy

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:23 am

Patsy Warnick;1181496 wrote: This brings tears to my eyes....!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really can't test my nerves with this extreme abuse of authority/stupidity.

The stupid Nurse will be transferred - the Hosp. will eventually pay out $$$..

and so what - this young lady & what she just experienced will be a trauma that'll stay with her forever... unfortunate trauma

did any one think she could've bleed to death - then to open your freezer daily until her appt......!!!!

I just can't stand this - I wish this young lady knew me & would've called me

I would've been HELL ON WHEELS & she would've been seen..

and I'd give some HELL lessons to others....

Unbelievable is right...

Patsy

Yes, the trauma will stay with this woman forever is right. I also suffered a miscarriage but in the 1st trimester....I remember they called it a blob!:-5:-5. My baby was not a "blob":-1. I still think of him to this day...I always assumed it was a boy....they wouldn't release the body to us and I did try believe me. Wanted to give him/her a proper burial. Just made me so mad.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am

Oh, Ducks

I'm so sorry.

I always thought a miscarriage/death of a fetus/baby was burried. ??

do you have children now? of course your trauma will never go away..

The fact here with this scenario - the possibility is the young lady may not be able to have another child- due the delay of care..!!!

pure NEGLECT.

as others stated - we pay High prices for MEDICAL CARE , and get this..

unexceptable

again I'm so very sorry Ducks

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:44 am

I feel very bad for the poor woman as i have had mis-carraiges and it's hell but i would put this down to one insensitive NHS worker rather than an over-all image of our health service.

In any large organisation, you will get the horror stories because they are not going to get it all right 100% of the time.

The NHS is free. Yes, us tax payers pay in NHS contributions but remember that if you were an immigrant arriving here with nothing or you were on benifit all your life you would be treated exactly the same as a tax payer.

I do get annoyed when folk slate our NHS as compared to other countries even Ireland, we have the best system in the world. Try having an accident in Greece or Turkey to appreciate what we have got.

I have nothing but praise for the NHS especially with the way Mr O has has been treated.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:44 am

Patsy Warnick;1181509 wrote: Oh, Ducks

I'm so sorry.

I always thought a miscarriage/death of a fetus/baby was burried. ??

do you have children now? of course your trauma will never go away..

The fact here with this scenario - the possibility is the young lady may not be able to have another child- due the delay of care..!!!

pure NEGLECT.

as others stated - we pay High prices for MEDICAL CARE , and get this..

unexceptable

again I'm so very sorry Ducks

Patsy

thank you Patsy. Yes, I have 4 children now. This was my 2nd pregnancy and we went on to have 3 after that. Oh, yes and I totally agree with you...she could have bled to death or worse...they would still have to remove the placenta don't you think? My heart goes out to this young woman:-4. As for the baby I lost...they also called it "medical waste":-5:-5. In my book, that baby was made with love and to have them insult said baby was just way too ignorant for me. I switched doctors after that.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:53 am

kazalala;1181442 wrote: I cant believe how insensitive some people can be. Also the woman should have been sent an ambulance who knos what kind of complications she could have had -5

Quite. Insensitivity is one thing, medical incompetence quite another. I should expect that the person who offered this advice be heavily censured.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:58 am

Bill Sikes;1181518 wrote: Quite. Insensitivity is one thing, medical incompetence quite another. I should expect that the person who offered this advice be heavily censured.

They should can her arse immediatly!

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:05 am

oscar;1181511 wrote: I feel very bad for the poor woman as i have had mis-carraiges and it's hell but i would put this down to one insensitive NHS worker rather than an over-all image of our health service.

In any large organisation, you will get the horror stories because they are not going to get it all right 100% of the time.

The NHS is free. Yes, us tax payers pay in NHS contributions but remember that if you were an immigrant arriving here with nothing or you were on benifit all your life you would be treated exactly the same as a tax payer.

I do get annoyed when folk slate our NHS as compared to other countries even Ireland, we have the best system in the world. Try having an accident in Greece or Turkey to appreciate what we have got.

I have nothing but praise for the NHS especially with the way Mr O has has been treated.No Oscar the NHS IS NOT FREE...yes I agree about immigrants but in the end someone is paying for this service such as myself and all the other Tax payers.I have also stated that some would talk highly about our NHS and you are one and good on Mr. O for being treated as he rightly should but aqree or not theres still many out there not getting the medical help they should be getting and also paying the price with their lives as I and others have experienced.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:11 am

Carolly;1181521 wrote: No Oscar the NHS IS NOT FREE...yes I agree about immigrants but in the end someone is paying for this service such as myself and all the other Tax payers.I have also stated that some would talk highly about our NHS and you are one and good on Mr. O for being treated as he rightly should but aqree or not theres still many out there not getting the medical help they should be getting and also paying the price with their lives as I and others have experienced.

And guess who gets the first treatments in these hospitals? Yeah, the immigrants here...no insurance, etc. Had to wait 5 hrs a year ago for Laura to have her foot xrayed and we are insured. It stinks all around imo.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:18 am

qsducks;1181526 wrote: And guess who gets the first treatments in these hospitals? Yeah, the immigrants here...no insurance, etc. Had to wait 5 hrs a year ago for Laura to have her foot xrayed and we are insured. It stinks all around imo.Odie informed me that in Canade they "dont pay" like us and from what she has said the treatment they recieve is alot better there.I have no idea what goes on there and just repeating what I was told but from what Chris also told me what happened the last time he was in hospital a few months ago it sounded alot better in Canada.They even forgot to feed the patients their dinner fgs in his ward and got him mixed up with another patient.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:21 am

qsducks;1181526 wrote: And guess who gets the first treatments in these hospitals? Yeah, the immigrants here...no insurance, etc. Had to wait 5 hrs a year ago for Laura to have her foot xrayed and we are insured. It stinks all around imo.So are you saying that people who are not insured there get medical treatment also?

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:22 am

Carolly;1181533 wrote: Odie informed me that in Canade they "dont pay" like us and from what she has said the treatment they recieve is alot better there.I have no idea what goes on there and just repeating what I was told but from what Chris also told me what happened the last time he was in hospital a few months ago it sounded alot better there.They even forgot to feed the patients their dinner fgs in his ward and got him mixed up with another patient.

IMO, the US has the worst healthcare. Satan aka the insurance industry drives up costs, etc. It is abs the worst...I will never take any of my kids to the ER again...straight to somewhere else.

. Obama wants us all to have Universal health care and now with the latest Repub senator switching sides...who knows, maybe we'll get it...I hope so. But the insurance satans will try to block it with their lobbying, etc.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:24 am

oscar;1181511 wrote: I feel very bad for the poor woman as i have had mis-carraiges and it's hell but i would put this down to one insensitive NHS worker rather than an over-all image of our health service.

In any large organisation, you will get the horror stories because they are not going to get it all right 100% of the time.

The NHS is free. Yes, us tax payers pay in NHS contributions but remember that if you were an immigrant arriving here with nothing or you were on benifit all your life you would be treated exactly the same as a tax payer.

I do get annoyed when folk slate our NHS as compared to other countries even Ireland, we have the best system in the world. Try having an accident in Greece or Turkey to appreciate what we have got.

I have nothing but praise for the NHS especially with the way Mr O has has been treated.
Matterless, matterless matterless.

I dont agree its free either, but thats neither here nor there,and even if it was it dont excuse sloppy service. I dont live in Greece ir Turkey i live in Engand, sadly i have had family members needing a lot of care form the NHS over the last 3 years,,, i have seen appalling treatment and lack of care..over and over,, i keep going on at my hubs to see how much it would b for a private health care policy or summat cos if i thought i had to go in to the hospital here i would be terrified.

I am well pleased Mr O has been looked after well and i do mean that sincerely Oscar, as he deserves it as much as the next person, and its hard enough to struggle with ill health without the extra stress of poor care.

in this case yes it does seem to be the insensitivity of one worker, and in another case,, and another ,,, a lot of one workers adds up to something pretty dam wong in my opinion. In my experience i have lost all faith in the NHS:(

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:25 am

Carolly;1181521 wrote: No Oscar the NHS IS NOT FREE...yes I agree about immigrants but in the end someone is paying for this service such as myself and all the other Tax payers.I have also stated that some would talk highly about our NHS and you are one and good on Mr. O for being treated as he rightly should but aqree or not theres still many out there not getting the medical help they should be getting and also paying the price with their lives as I and others have experienced.

I've also had my share of hospital treatment over the years and i could not fault them.

I think it comes down to the individual hospital and the way the bosses run it. There are some shockers out there granted but over-all i believe compared to other countries, we are lucky.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:31 am

qsducks;1181512 wrote: thank you Patsy. Yes, I have 4 children now. This was my 2nd pregnancy and we went on to have 3 after that. Oh, yes and I totally agree with you...she could have bled to death or worse...they would still have to remove the placenta don't you think? My heart goes out to this young woman:-4. As for the baby I lost...they also called it "medical waste":-5:-5. In my book, that baby was made with love and to have them insult said baby was just way too ignorant for me. I switched doctors after that.

Thats a very sad experience for you ducky, made worse by thoughtlessness,, i thought things now were better that way than they were a lot of years ago,, but in this case it does'nt seem so:(

I had a miscarriage, too and it was a horrendous experience,, i wont go in to details as it was while i was in the forces,,well not me hubs:rolleyes:

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:34 am

oscar;1181540 wrote: I've also had my share of hospital treatment over the years and i could not fault them.

I think it comes down to the individual hospital and the way the bosses run it. There are some shockers out there granted but over-all i believe compared to other countries, we are lucky.

you must have a good hospital Oscar,,, great luck! ours is crap:( KNowing what we have is still better than some countries,, or nothing in some palces dont make it any better for us at the time thpough does it?

Yes i agree compared to other countires we are lucky,,, so thats ok then? i dont think so

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:36 am

oscar;1181540 wrote: I've also had my share of hospital treatment over the years and i could not fault them.

I think it comes down to the individual hospital and the way the bosses run it. There are some shockers out there granted but over-all i believe compared to other countries, we are lucky.Now that I totally agree with... but you missed the word "some" out before the countries word;)

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:36 am

Carolly;1181535 wrote: So are you saying that people who are not insured there get medical treatment also?

Yes...and they are the first to be seen:mad:. They are coming into the er's with stupid things like the common cold:mad: because they don't have insurance so guess who gets stuck with their bills? Us the taxpaying, insurance paying idiots. I will never go to an emergency room again with whatever is coming down the line kid wise & broken bones, etc.

oscar;1181540 wrote: I've also had my share of hospital treatment over the years and i could not fault them.

I think it comes down to the individual hospital and the way the bosses run it. There are some shockers out there granted but over-all i believe compared to other countries, we are lucky.

I would probs agree with you there Oscar. The er we went to last year stunk, but when Laura had her kidney stone just this March, hubs took her to a different ER and she was home in 2 hrs. We have one hospital down the road but honestly I woulnd't send my dog there:wah:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:40 am

kazalala;1181538 wrote: Matterless, matterless matterless.

I dont agree its free either, but thats neither here nor there,and even if it was it dont excuse sloppy service. I dont live in Greece ir Turkey i live in Engand, sadly i have had family members needing a lot of care form the NHS over the last 3 years,,, i have seen appalling treatment and lack of care..over and over,, i keep going on at my hubs to see how much it would b for a private health care policy or summat cos if i thought i had to go in to the hospital here i would be terrified.

I am well pleased Mr O has been looked after well and i do mean that sincerely Oscar, as he deserves it as much as the next person, and its hard enough to struggle with ill health without the extra stress of poor care.

in this case yes it does seem to be the insensitivity of one worker, and in another case,, and another ,,, a lot of one workers adds up to something pretty dam wong in my opinion. In my experience i have lost all faith in the NHS:(And from what you have told me in the past Kaz I dont blame you for one minute

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:45 am

qsducks;1181548 wrote: Yes...and they are the first to be seen:mad:. They are coming into the er's with stupid things like the common cold:mad: because they don't have insurance so guess who gets stuck with their bills? Us the taxpaying, insurance paying idiots. I will never go to an emergency room again with whatever is coming down the line kid wise & broken bones, etc.

Now that I find interesting Ducky

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:47 am

kazalala;1181545 wrote: Thats a very sad experience for you ducky, made worse by thoughtlessness,, i thought things now were better that way than they were a lot of years ago,, but in this case it does'nt seem so:(

I had a miscarriage, too and it was a horrendous experience,, i wont go in to details as it was while i was in the forces,,well not me hubs:rolleyes: Yes, I will never forget it, but am so glad I switched doctors after that. told him right to his face actually:wah: as he was all preparedd to do a c-section again...:mad:effing idiot! I mean really, the babe wasn't even into the 3rd month of gestation. Oh I was so angry with him. Can't believe he's still practicing obgyn still...poor women who go to him. Plus he was a complete pig.:-5

kazalala;1181546 wrote: you must have a good hospital Oscar,,, great luck! ours is crap:( KNowing what we have is still better than some countries,, or nothing in some palces dont make it any better for us at the time thpough does it?

Yes i agree compared to other countires we are lucky,,, so thats ok then? i dont think so

Yeah, we have two crap hospitals here...but hubs has discovered a nice one...your insured & you get first treatment.:-4

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:48 am

kazalala;1181546 wrote: you must have a good hospital Oscar,,, great luck! ours is crap:( KNowing what we have is still better than some countries,, or nothing in some palces dont make it any better for us at the time thpough does it?

Yes i agree compared to other countires we are lucky,,, so thats ok then? i dont think so

I've been in many hospitals around the country but there is no doubt that when i had the pulmery embolism, i would be dead had it not have been for the speed in which the paramedics got to me and the emergency treatment i had. I have had ten years of ill health myself with many hospital visits and all staff i have spoken to are frustrated at the way hospitals are run by men in grey suits and not nursing staff. To me, that is the only way we can get back to sensibility..... sack the beurocrats and give the wards back to the nurses.

I have also been in hospital and seen another side to it where some patients think the nursing staff are there to wait on them hand and foot.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:49 am

Carolly;1181555 wrote: Now that I find interesting Ducky

I meant we now go to a totally different hospital where the ignorant, uninsured patients don't go. Sorry for the confusion.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:50 am

qsducks;1181556 wrote: Yes, I will never forget it, but am so glad I switched doctors after that. told him right to his face actually:wah: as he was all preparedd to do a c-section again...:mad:effing idiot! I mean really, the babe wasn't even into the 3rd month of gestation. Oh I was so angry with him. Can't believe he's still practicing obgyn still...poor women who go to him. Plus he was a complete pig.:-5

Yeah, we have two crap hospitals here...but hubs has discovered a nice one...your insured & you get first treatment.:-4
good for you ducky... sorry gotta go out for a while ,, be back later:-4

oscar;1181558 wrote: I've been in many hospitals around the country but there is no doubt that when i had the pulmery embolism, i would be dead had it not have been for the speed in which the paramedics got to me and the emergency treatment i had. I have had ten years of ill health myself with many hospital visits and all staff i have spoken to are frustrated at the way hospitals are run by men in grey suits and not nursing staff. To me, that is the only way we can get back to sensibility..... sack the beurocrats and give the wards back to the nurses.

I have also been in hospital and seen another side to it where some patients think the nursing staff are there to wait on them hand and foot.
sorry oscar as i said above gotta go out for a while, i will answer soon as i can;)

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:00 am

We go to a hospital way down the road and then we have Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) which is an excellent hospital for kids, etc. No way will I ever step foot in to DCMH or Fitzgerald Mercy ever again. Actually Fitz it the worst er I've ever been in, a complete dumping ground for the most moronic populace...good they can have it.:wah:

Our CHOP is pretty much one of the best children's hospt. in the world. And my local Taylor Hosp. is the one we go to now. Sorry for the confusion though if you guys thought we never to to the hospital...yeah, we do but with bone breaks I will just go straight to the orthopedic one.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:04 am

qsducks;1181559 wrote: I meant we now go to a totally different hospital where the ignorant, uninsured patients don't go. Sorry for the confusion.:)But of course they get treatment as they would in this country.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:07 am

oscar;1181558 wrote: I've been in many hospitals around the country but there is no doubt that when i had the pulmery embolism, i would be dead had it not have been for the speed in which the paramedics got to me and the emergency treatment i had. I have had ten years of ill health myself with many hospital visits and all staff i have spoken to are frustrated at the way hospitals are run by men in grey suits and not nursing staff. To me, that is the only way we can get back to sensibility..... sack the beurocrats and give the wards back to the nurses.

I have also been in hospital and seen another side to it where some patients think the nursing staff are there to wait on them hand and foot.Again I agree...to much money being wasted on the toffee nosed gits who have no idea what some patients have to go through......or dont wanna know.Bring back the Sisters and Matrons

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:11 am

Carolly;1181573 wrote: But of course they get treatment as they would in this country.

Yes, they get the treatment before the insured peeps. It's very annoying on our end. I don't see why we the insured have to wait 5 hrs or longer for serious medical probs and they get to go first for stupid stuff like a stuffed up nose.:-5 And you know who is footing the bill for them since they have no insurance?:-5

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:16 am

qsducks;1181581 wrote: Yes, they get the treatment before the insured peeps. It's very annoying on our end. I don't see why we the insured have to wait 5 hrs or longer for serious medical probs and they get to go first for stupid stuff like a stuffed up nose.:-5 And you know who is footing the bill for them since they have no insurance?:-5Yes babe I do same as I know who does in this country.Jane Macdonald a singer over here said something

the other day on Loose Women ....a programme she is on....the audience cheered her.Im not going to say what this was as im not in the mood for a debate about it but it was about what we have been talking about and oh boy she hit the nail on the head.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:19 am

Carolly;1181587 wrote: Yes babe I do same as I know who does in this country.Jane Macdonald a singer over here said something

the other day on Loose Women ....a programme she is on....the audience cheered her.Im not going to say what this was as im not in the mood for a debate about it but it was about what we have been talking about and oh boy she hit the nail on the head.

Well, I'm sure she called it a "hand out".

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:21 am

qsducks;1181588 wrote: Well, I'm sure she called it a "hand out".She said alot worse than that babe and good on her;)

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:26 am

Carolly;1181590 wrote: She said alot worse than that babe and good on her;)

Cool...but pretty sure the super polic crowd will be crowing:wah:. Idiots!:wah:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:45 am

qsducks;1181593 wrote: Cool...but pretty sure the super polic crowd will be crowing:wah:. Idiots!:wah:Oh ye big time thats for sure but that audience cheered her and clapped and I totally agreed with every word she said;)

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:48 am

Carolly;1181602 wrote: Oh ye big time thats for sure but that audience cheered her and clapped and I totally agreed with every word she said;)

100% as most peeps who pay out the nose for insurance were cheerfully clapping also. My beef is they think "they deserve it".:-2...never worked a day in your life, no education, etc. Don't fly with me.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:52 am

oscar;1181558 wrote: I've been in many hospitals around the country but there is no doubt that when i had the pulmery embolism, i would be dead had it not have been for the speed in which the paramedics got to me and the emergency treatment i had. I have had ten years of ill health myself with many hospital visits and all staff i have spoken to are frustrated at the way hospitals are run by men in grey suits and not nursing staff. To me, that is the only way we can get back to sensibility..... sack the beurocrats and give the wards back to the nurses.

I have also been in hospital and seen another side to it where some patients think the nursing staff are there to wait on them hand and foot.

Agreed ,, as long as they are good nurses and know what the term nursing means...and it would help if a lot of the paperwork was taken off them so they could actually do some proper nursing

and yes ,, some patients probably do think they are to be waited on hand and foot,,, but not in our hospital ,,, no chance:yh_rotfl but i have seen a worrying lack of care oscar from nurses,,, not even looking at the patient or smiling at them ,, i know we can all have bad days,, but even when ye busy you can surely say ok there? Its the attitude that gets me sometimes:(

My aunt is in there at the moment and she is giving them hell:rolleyes: i seriously feel sorry for them ,, but you know with a little understanding she can be handled quite easily and turn in to a pussycat;)

Another thing,,, why is it like the bloomin secret service? trying to find out whats wrong with you ,, or with your aunt inthis case,,, when hubs was in the raf and i had dealings with the american hospital they just gave me my medical records to take to diff departments myself ,, and then give them to me to take back to England when we were leaving there. Here you are not allowed to see your medical records,,, hang on ,, yes you are ,, but best not ask

:yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:57 pm

kazalala;1181442 wrote: I cant believe how insensitive some people can be. Also the woman should have been sent an ambulance who knos what kind of complications she could have had:-5

'Keep your dead baby in a fridge' nurse tells woman who had miscarriage - mirror.co.uk

just now had a chance to read this.

what is this country coming to?

how on earth can a hospital say, they're to busy?

and your so right Kaz, they should have sent an ambulance asap!:-5:-5

my god, that poor woman!:-1