Obama's Pick for Supreme Court...Sonia Sotomayer

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue May 26, 2009 11:08 am

Why is the right wing having such a fit?

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Tue May 26, 2009 12:14 pm

qsducks;1194597 wrote: Why is the right wing having such a fit?

Because Obummer says she has empathy. It must be catching. I saw her speak on TV today and already I'm getting an itchy rash and upset stomach.:yh_sick

Kindle · Post by **Kindle** » Tue May 26, 2009 4:44 pm

Don't worry, Hoppy. They are working on a shot for it.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:40 pm

I don't know anything about any "fits" but it concerns me that Obama's nominated someone who clearly places race and ethnicity above merit.

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

And she was one that voted that a promotions test was unfair simply because the top scorers were white men, and set the entire test aside. I remember at the time that it was generally accepted that no such set aside would have happened had only non-whites made the grade.

Supreme Court Hears Firefighter Promotion Case : NPR

Reverse bias? Justices hear firefighter suit - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:38 am

qsducks;1194597 wrote: Why is the right wing having such a fit?

I'm an ousider but I would speculate

1) She's a woman

2) She is hispanic-which I presume in an amercan context means she's not white.

3) she's probably catholic

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:42 am

gmc;1195038 wrote: I'm an ousider but I would speculate

1) She's a woman

2) She is hispanic-which I presume in an amercan context means she's not white.

3) she's probably catholic

From what I seen from the most conservative wing of the RNC...they are foaming at the mouth at every aspect of the judge. With Rush Limbat making the most noise.:-5

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:13 am

qsducks;1195039 wrote: From what I seen from the most conservative wing of the RNC...they are foaming at the mouth at every aspect of the judge. With Rush Limbat making the most noise.:-5

Limmouth will be making noise right up till the end. Perhaps one day hell say something relevant.

Naaah...

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:14 am

Nomad;1195047 wrote: Limmouth will be making noise right up till the end. Perhaps one day hell say something relevant.

Naaah...

or maybe he can just shut up:wah:

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:24 am

Accountable;1194856 wrote:

Reverse bias? Justices hear firefighter suit - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com

It sounds like she was bound by law to consider the testing from a legal standpoint. Considering her credentials Im sure this was strictly legalese rather than bias as your edging on implying. A reasonable assumption I believe.

The city argues that if it had gone ahead with the promotions based on the test results, it would have risked a lawsuit claiming that the exams had a "disparate impact" on minorities in violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

The federal appeals court in New York upheld a lower court ruling dismissing the lawsuit.

The case has drawn input from interest groups across the ideological spectrum. The Obama administration has weighed in mainly on the city's side, although it recommends allowing the lawsuit to proceed on a limited basis.

Besides affecting how race can be considered in filling government and perhaps even private jobs, the dispute also addresses broader questions about racial progress: Do minorities and women still need legal protection from discrimination, or do the monumental civil rights laws that created a more equal nation now cause more harm than good?

Also, beneath the specific details of the firefighters' lawsuit lies an uncomfortable truth: On most standardized tests, regardless of the subject, blacks score lower than whites.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed May 27, 2009 2:50 pm

gmc;1195038 wrote: I'm an ousider but I would speculate

1) She's a woman

2) She is hispanic-which I presume in an amercan context means she's not white.

3) she's probably catholic
Excellent capsulization of your own prejudicial stereotype of Americans. Thankyouverymuch.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:48 pm

hoppy;1194643 wrote: Because Obummer says she has empathy. It must be catching. I saw her speak on TV today and already I'm getting an itchy rash and upset stomach.:yh_sick

Obummer!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:12 pm

Odie;1195424 wrote: Obummer!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Guess one can tell, I'm no fan of his.:wah:

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:33 pm

Still, she's gonna sail through without a hitch. Any bets?

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:32 pm

Accountable;1194856 wrote: I don't know anything about any "fits" but it concerns me that Obama's nominated someone who clearly places race and ethnicity above merit.

Well said!

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:10 pm

hoppy;1195443 wrote: Guess one can tell, I'm no fan of his.:wah:

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I'll trade you Stephen Harper, my Prime Minister any day:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl!

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu May 28, 2009 1:11 am

Accountable;1195342 wrote: Excellent capsulization of your own prejudicial stereotype of Americans. Thankyouverymuch.

What you mean you're not all gun toting misogynistic protestant white supremacists?:sneaky: That's what the right wing is over here-without the gun-toting bit of course.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:02 pm

Nomad;1195053 wrote: It sounds like she was bound by law to consider the testing from a legal standpoint. Considering her credentials Im sure this was strictly legalese rather than bias as your edging on implying. A reasonable assumption I believe.
Perhaps. Perhaps not.

Supreme Court Rules for White and Hispanic Firefighters, Reversing Sotomayor Decision - ABC News