What's Your Ancestral Heritage?

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Sun May 31, 2009 11:25 pm

We are a nation of immigrants,as are the Americans and the Canadians.

On my mum's side, the folk are Irish and English,and on my dad's,they are English with a smattering of Scotties.

We know the name of the ship that dad's rellies first arrived in Australia, and we even know the place where they were first given work.

We've been able to trace back dad's side to the 1700's in a place called Kilkhampton-southern England-not so lucky with our searching on my mum's side.

There are probably lots of convicts on her side.:wah:

What about you all?

Post by **spot** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:37 am

Viking marauder, Anglo-Saxon pillager by way of Visigoth, freebooting Dane, Norman adventurer and a few long-suffering Celts. I'm guessing, since they rarely bothered with the formality of marriage and the only churches they went into they stole the silverware and ravished the priests. I'm basing it mostly on comparable behaviour.

Victoria · Post by **Victoria** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:46 am

Lots of Irish on both sides, thing is I cant trace them because my gran made the moral slip and got pregnant before marriage she gave false information on my fathers birth certificate.

No one knows who his father was and she took the secret with her.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:18 am

I am Irish, and I live in Ireland, so my ancestry is basically just Irish as we have a very homogenous population in this country over the past several centuries.

I would imagine if it were possible to dig deep into records and I am sure you would find lots of interesting links to other countries and peoples. In Ireland in general that means links either to Anglo-Normans, English, or Scots.

In Ireland if you second name begins with a D' or De (such D'arcy, Decoursey, Dempsey) or with a Fitz (such as Fitzwilliam, Fitzhenry, Fitzpatrick) then you have roots back to the Normans, other names such as Walsh (Welsh), McDonald, Campbell (Scots), or obviously English names such as Smyth, Brett, Pope, (there are too many to recount) would indicate your foreign ancestry.

mrsK · Post by **mrsK** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:05 am

Fathers side Irish

Mothers German

Me Aussie,Irish,German

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:48 am

Father's side-Hungarian and Czechoslovakian

Mom's side- Variety including English, Irish, Indian

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:35 am

Mom's side, pure German.

Dad- Slovakian.

Me- dirty rotten scoundrel.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:39 am

Thanks to a daughter that has been into genealogy for 30 years I now know that my heritage is just about all British. My ancestors on my fathers side were living in upstate New York during the 1600's and on my mothers side also the 1600's in what is now Virginia, but having originated in Nottingham. Before that----I don't know.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:49 am

Chockygirl;1197679 wrote: What about you all?

Human.

minks · Post by **minks** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:58 am

Peg;1197750 wrote: Father's side-Hungarian and Czechoslovakian

Mom's side- Variety including English, Irish, Indian

Get out I thought I was the only one here in FG with Hungarian in their background. Yay look at us we have the blessing of the Hungaian temper whoo hooo hehehehe

Ok I am Hungarian (dad's side)

and

Irish, English, Scottish, and a wee bit of American (On mom's side)

Rapunzel · Post by **Rapunzel** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:31 pm

My dad's Irish

My mum's English

So I'm thickish :-2

My other half's dad is English and his mum's Canadian, but they emigrated to Ireland when Mum-in-law was 2 years old, so she was brought up there.

So the other half's just confused. :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:12 pm

Mother..... English

Father....... irish

Me...... Half alien, half demon

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:34 pm

Bill Sikes;1197888 wrote: Human.

:wah:

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:03 pm

Lon;1197885 wrote: Thanks to a daughter that has been into genealogy for 30 years I now know that my heritage is just about all British. My ancestors on my fathers side were living in upstate New York during the 1600's and on my mothers side also the 1600's in what is now Virginia, but having originated in Nottingham. Before that----I don't know.

My youngest son has SO much info from his genealogy studies,and while I like to read the dates of the ancestors' deaths/births/marriages etc,I would REALLY love to know more of the actual lives and history of my rellies.

This is when diaries would have been so helpful with observations and thoughts on a daily basis.

One of my rellies was on one of the First Fleet ships that first settled here in OZ as a free settler.

I would have really liked to have read how life was on a ship for six months travelling to such a far-away land and what they encountered when they first started to make a life here.

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:19 pm

German, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Dutch, Hungarian, & American Indian, (2 tribes)

My family has really researched our ancestry and discovered that the earliest records show a female marrying into the Fugger family, who later built the Fuggerei, (some of the first subsidized housing,) in Ausberg, which is still in existence and in pretty good shape according to the photos on the net. Later ancestors came on a ship (3 brothers) and some were pioneers, some married natives, there was a horse thief and a sheriff in one of the Wild West cattle towns. One was a Cherokee on the Trail of Tears.

panzermk2 · Post by **panzermk2** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:34 pm

Fathers side German Catholic came to the USA round 1908.

Mothers side German Jews who escaped to France and then to the USA barely getting out.

Also on my fathers side a small amount of Highland Scott. No idea how that got in there and nobodies talking.

I figure there was a long night of beer drinking involved.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:44 pm

My Fathers side - Scottish the Buchanan Clan originally from Edinburgh.

My Mothers side - Polish through and through from Gdańsk.

I didn't understand what anyone was saying growing up with the Scottish Brogue, and the Polish it was hopeless. :wah: All my grandparent came through Ellis Island. My Father's parent were suppose to be on the Titanic but got bumped at the last minute or I wouldn't be here.

Post by **Sunshine** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:54 pm

Father's side, pure German

Mother's side, pure Norwegian

I don't know very much about how my grandparents came to America or how they met to start with. There is really only my brother and I left and no family bibles with names and dates or any historical information like a family tree either.

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:00 pm

Zapata;1198161 wrote: German, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Dutch, Hungarian, & American Indian, (2 tribes)

My family has really researched our ancestry and discovered that the earliest records show a female marrying into the Fugger family, who later built the Fuggerei, (some of the first subsidized housing,) in Ausberg, which is still in existence and in pretty good shape according to the photos on the net. Later ancestors came on a ship (3 brothers) and some were pioneers, some married natives, there was a horse thief and a sheriff in one of the Wild West cattle towns. One was a Cherokee on the Trail of Tears.

Oh,what a Heinz variety you are!:D

Very interesting about your American Indian heritage;I'll have to google the Trail of Tears,I don't know anything much about it.

I'll have to check out Ausberg as well.

Chockygirl-learning-all-the-time.

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:04 pm

Sunshine;1198222 wrote: Father's side, pure German

Mother's side, pure Norwegian

I don't know very much about how my grandparents came to America or how they met to start with. There is really only my brother and I left and no family bibles with names and dates or any historical information like a family tree either.

Does your library have a genealogy computer?

You may be able to find what ship they arrived on and then work your way backwards from the places where they started their original journeys?

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:46 am

I'm half cocked and half drunk, a thoroughly charming combination, IMHO.

Post by **Sunshine** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:07 am

Chockygirl;1198228 wrote:

Does your library have a genealogy computer?

You may be able to find what ship they arrived on and then work your way backwards from the places where they started their original journeys?

Now there is an idea. I don't know if our library has one. I will need to find the few fragments of information that I do have in order to get my grandmothers maiden name. I know her first name was Gunhilda. not much help there. :-3

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:04 pm

Richard Bell;1198358 wrote: I'm half cocked and half drunk, a thoroughly charming combination, IMHO.

I like full cocked myself :sneaky::sneaky:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:09 pm

Dad - 100% Irish

Mom - Wales, French Canadian, England, Ireland

Which makes me a Mutt:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:11 pm

qsducks;1198487 wrote: Dad - 100% Irish

Mom - Wales, French Canadian, England, Ireland

Which makes me a Mutt:wah: And on quarter duck :wah:

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:16 pm

oscar;1198489 wrote: And on quarter duck :wah:

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Quackers

Chookie · Post by **Chookie** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:02 pm

100% Highland Scottish.

Which means:- Caledonii/ Picti/ Scotti/ Viking (Norwegian variety)/ Irish and anything which came along including French, Spanish, maybe a lost Roman or two (even *gulp* a passing Englishman).

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:10 pm

Chookie;1198562 wrote: 100% Highland Scottish.

Which means:- Caledonii/ Picti/ Scotti/ Viking (Norwegian variety)/ Irish and anything which came along including French, Spanish, maybe a lost Roman or two (even *gulp* a passing Englishman).
Who was the passing Englishman? Only my uncle holidayed in Scotland an awful lot :sneaky::sneaky::wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:14 pm

Mothers side--American Indian, German

Fathers side-- Irish, German

I guess that's why I am a arrow shooting, heavy drinking, fighting kind of guy.:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:16 pm

YZGI;1198575 wrote: Mothers side--American Indian, German

Fathers side-- Irish, German

I guess that's why I am a arrow shooting, heavy drinking, fighting kind of guy.:wah: There is a heck of a lot of Irish on this forum........ does anyone know their parents birthplace in Ireland? My father and grandfather was County Cork.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:55 pm

Both my Mom and Dad's parents and all of their rellys are from County Donegal, Ireland. Donegal people are called "Fardowners" as we're so far down and away from Dublin:p. As the saying goes...you go down to Donegal and up to Dublin:p.....it's a Donegal joke...Dublin is in the southeast and Donegal is in the northwest.

I was very lucky to meet my whole family in Ireland at the age of 19 since my Dad's brother Jim was living in Dublin and finally he and Dad met up again after 32 years. So sad to lose those years between brothers. Anyway, Jim introduced me to my millions of cousins in Donegal:yh_rotfl Jim even introduced my Dad to Ireland's president at the time, Eamon de Valera. Jim wanted Eamon to meet his long lost brother Patrick.

Jim has 3 daughters my age and we've basically grown up together since we were 19. They're like my sisters and we keep in touch at least 2x a month by phone. They've only been to America a few times as money is tight....but I used to spend all of my summers there when I was younger and still visit every other year.

Most of my rellys are from Donegal, Miltown Malbay.... Clare, Dublin and Killarney...Kerry.

I'm blessed and lucky to have met all of my parent's aunt's and uncles before they've passed. Now, my nieces and nephews have met all of our relatives there and have become best friends with my Uncle Jim's daughter's children. So, our love and heritage will go on with our younger ones.:-4

BTW....

My Dad was born in Alaska during the goldrush years and was sent home to Donegal at the age of 2 years old as the area was too rough for women and children. He worked in the shipyards of Glasgow, Scotland before returning to America at the age of 19. How cool is that ...

el guapo · Post by **el guapo** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:00 pm

mum n dad both romany gypsy

dad fam was scotish 200 years back

mums from south of uk

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:22 pm

el guapo;1198610 wrote: mum n dad both romany gypsy

Oh,that's really interesting.

Were they travellers when you were a kid;did you learn about the culture and the traditions?

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:25 pm

Kathy Ellen;1198605 wrote: Both my Mom and Dad's parents and all of their rellys are from County Donegal, Ireland. Donegal people are called "Fardowners" as we're so far down and away from Dublin:p. As the saying goes...you go down to Donegal and up to Dublin:p.....it's a Donegal joke...Dublin is in the southeast and Donegal is in the northwest.

I was very lucky to meet my whole family in Ireland at the age of 19 since my Dad's brother Jim was living in Dublin and finally he and Dad met up again after 32 years. So sad to lose those years between brothers. Anyway, Jim introduced me to my millions of cousins in Donegal:yh_rotfl Jim even introduced my Dad to Ireland's president at the time, Eamon de Valera. Jim wanted Eamon to meet his long lost brother Patrick.

Jim has 3 daughters my age and we've basically grown up together since we were 19. They're like my sisters and we keep in touch at least 2x a month by phone. They've only been to America a few times as money is tight....but I used to spend all of my summers there when I was younger and still visit every other year.

Most of my rellys are from Donegal, Miltown Malbay.... Clare, Dublin and Killarney...Kerry.

I'm blessed and lucky to have met all of my parent's aunt's and uncles before they've passed. Now, my nieces and nephews have met all of our relatives there and have become best friends with my Uncle Jim's daughter's children. So, our love and heritage will go on with our younger ones.:-4

BTW....

My Dad was born in Alaska during the goldrush years and was sent home to Donegal at the age of 2 years old as the area was too rough for women and children. He worked in the shipyards of Glasgow, Scotland before returning to America at the age of 19. How cool is that ...

What a great story,Kathy!:)

Did you have trouble understanding the Irish accent when you met all the rellies?:D

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:07 pm

Chockygirl;1198634 wrote:

What a great story,Kathy!:)

Did you have trouble understanding the Irish accent when you met all the rellies?:D

Ahhhhh Chocky:-6

Jasus......No, the Donegal and Dublin accent's are gorgeous. It's hard to describe my meeting with my Dad's family since he and his brother had not been in touch for 32 years

We were so thrilled,,, beyond bits to finally meet that all we did was cry when we met.

The problems arose when we went to a dance. Remember that I'm a naive, immature 19 year old. Oy vey, my cousins told me that when a fella asks you to dance you have to dance a "set" dance which is 3 dances. I kept thinking...what if I get sick....yada...yada..... Well, lo and behold, my cousin's cousin, Paddy Cullen, who is a famous "All Ireland footballer" asks me to dance. I said, "Sorry no..." because I was so nervous....:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

And then....later on.....a fella asks me to dance and then asks me if I want to for a mineral

geeze, I thought that he wanted to go rock hunting....I didn't know that mineral mean a soda....:yh_rotfl

All ended well that night. Paddy Cullen and I are still good friends:pand the mineral guy thought I was cute when I explained my thinking.

I love Ireland:-4

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:53 pm

Great stories, Kathy Ellen. How terrific for you to have had that experience of spending time with your relatives. I have a friend from Scotland and I have to ask her to speak very slowly until I can get the hang of what she's saying. I'll see her in Glasgow in August. We'll be in Ireland too, but in Belfast.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:33 am

oscar;1198581 wrote: There is a heck of a lot of Irish on this forum........ does anyone know their parents birthplace in Ireland? My father and grandfather was County Cork.
My dad has told me but I don't remember. My parents have studied our family genealogy for years and went to Ireland a couple of years ago to visit wherever they had found relies. Our name was apparently spelled a little different when in Ireland. Next time I see dad I will ask him again.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:51 am

YZGI;1198934 wrote: My dad has told me but I don't remember. My parents have studied our family genealogy for years and went to Ireland a couple of years ago to visit wherever they had found relies. Our name was apparently spelled a little different when in Ireland. Next time I see dad I will ask him again. My grandfather came here from Ireland to help the British in the first world war and got blown up on the Somme for his troubles at the age of 29. My father was only 9 yrs old at the time and never recovered from it. He served in the 2nd war as a pilot. We have traced our family tree and even have a coat of arms. I'd advise anyone to do this as it's fascinating although you need alot of patience and research.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:03 am

oscar;1198946 wrote: My grandfather came here from Ireland to help the British in the first world war and got blown up on the Somme for his troubles at the age of 29. My father was only 9 yrs old at the time and never recovered from it. He served in the 2nd war as a pilot. We have traced our family tree and even have a coat of arms. I'd advise anyone to do this as it's fascinating although you need alot of patience and research.
My father has showed me our coat of arms also. I think I will get more interested in this than I was when he first brought it up. My grandmother recently passed away at the age of 93 she was 1/2 american indian. Up until now her story and life were more interesting to me for some reason, although she lived just like the rest of america because she was denied her Head rights because her either great or great grandfather refused to sign a treay pact with the US, so she or the rest of her family didn't get some of the rights as other native americans did until a few years ago.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:10 am

YZGI;1198959 wrote: My father has showed me our coat of arms also. I think I will get more interested in this than I was when he first brought it up. My grandmother recently passed away at the age of 93 she was 1/2 american indian. Up until now her story and life were more interesting to me for some reason, although she lived just like the rest of america because she was denied her Head rights because her either great or great grandfather refused to sign a treay pact with the US, so she or the rest of her family didn't get some of the rights as other native americans did until a few years ago. That makes my family look dull. How fascinating. :-6

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:14 am

oscar;1198581 wrote: There is a heck of a lot of Irish on this forum........ does anyone know their parents birthplace in Ireland? My father and grandfather was County Cork.

Hubs grandparents both born in County Donegal.

I know my mother's great-great grandparents came from somewhere in Northern Ireland...don't know the rest. Will have to ask my parents.

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:21 am

YZGI;1198959 wrote: My father has showed me our coat of arms also. I think I will get more interested in this than I was when he first brought it up. My grandmother recently passed away at the age of 93 she was 1/2 american indian. Up until now her story and life were more interesting to me for some reason, although she lived just like the rest of america because she was denied her Head rights because her either great or great grandfather refused to sign a treay pact with the US, so she or the rest of her family didn't get some of the rights as other native americans did until a few years ago.

What a shame that is! What tribe was she? I remember my mother telling me that my grandmother got a letter telling her that she could get 160 acres in Oklahoma (I believe it was) but that she had to travel there to 'prove up' on it. They were very poor, living in Kansas and had no way to get there so she lost it. Probably right where the suburbs of Tulsa are today!:wah:

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:08 am

Zapata;1198978 wrote: What a shame that is! What tribe was she? I remember my mother telling me that my grandmother got a letter telling her that she could get 160 acres in Oklahoma (I believe it was) but that she had to travel there to 'prove up' on it. They were very poor, living in Kansas and had no way to get there so she lost it. Probably right where the suburbs of Tulsa are today!:wah:
If I remember correctly it was Powhatten, part of the Kickapoo. I just asked my brother , he said powhatten is not right but part of the Kickapoo is. Damn I wished I would have listened better.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:30 am

Oiy my Hungarian Gypsy side were a bunch of nomads... (no we were not anywhere close to resembling our resident lemon) therefore nobody knows much about that side of the family.

pity really

Somebody on my mom's side of the the family has some family map done, I have no idea where we stem back to or whom.

panzermk2 · Post by **panzermk2** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:27 pm

On my father's side it gets very interesting. My great great grandfather was a Prussian "spare" as in the barons younger brother. Most often these "spares" died of horrible accidents just after their older brothers assumed the throne. Mine did not he bailed to America. My father is in the process of translating his journals. To avoid not being found out he used a versions of High and Low German.

Hochdeutsch was only spoken in the castle by royals. Plattdeutsch was spoken by the peasants. It is VERY rare for someone to speak both. He also wrote it in a 12 century font. My father had a friend who has a PHD in German language and history look at it to help translate. German used by many countries is a "language by convention" meaning that ever few years the countries using it get together and change it.

My dads friend did not have a damn clue what any of it meant. He is currently working with a Mennonite historian since the German they speak in is unchanged 16th century and closer to the written text. They are translating it backwards to the original skript.

Yes I have a castle in my family.

I do not have much detailed from my mothers side since most barely escaped with the clothes on their backs.

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:21 pm

panzermk2;1199180 wrote: On my father's side it gets very interesting. My great great grandfather was a Prussian "spare" as in the barons younger brother. Most often these "spares" died of horrible accidents just after their older brothers assumed the throne. Mine did not he bailed to America. My father is in the process of translating his journals. To avoid not being found out he used a versions of High and Low German.

Hochdeutsch was only spoken in the castle by royals. Plattdeutsch was spoken by the peasants. It is VERY rare for someone to speak both. He also wrote it in a 12 century font. My father had a friend who has a PHD in German language and history look at it to help translate. German used by many countries is a "language by convention" meaning that ever few years the countries using it get together and change it.

My dads friend did not have a damn clue what any of it meant. He is currently working with a Mennonite historian since the German they speak in is unchanged 16th century and closer to the written text. They are translating it backwards to the original skript.

Yes I have a castle in my family.

I do not have much detailed from my mothers side since most barely escaped with the clothes on their backs.

OH,WOW!!

That's really interesting.

My family are a boring ol' lot in comparison.

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:34 pm

Kathy Ellen;1198671 wrote: Ahhhhh Chocky:-6

And then....later on.....a fella asks me to dance and then asks me if I want to for a mineral

geeze, I thought that he wanted to go rock hunting....I didn't know that mineral mean a soda....:yh_rotfl

:wah:

Oh,Kathy,you've touched on another aspect that I love about different cultures and the use of words.

We all laugh ourselves silly here in OZ when we hear a U.S person talking about a fanny-it has a very different meaning over here.:yh_rotfl

Chockygirl · Post by **Chockygirl** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:38 pm

YZGI;1198959 wrote: My father has showed me our coat of arms also.

We have a coat of arms on my dad's side as well.

You can probably google your name and find a picture of it there.