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farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:29 pm

if someone very popular on FG posted something that you thought was very wrong

what would you do ??

keep quite

or speak up against it even though you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you and you would probably be about as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag if you did

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:31 pm

You report something that's wrong, no matter who it is.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:32 pm

I wouldn't give a hoot who it was and tell them how I feel about their post or I'd hit the report post button.

Fyrenza · Post by **Fyrenza** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:55 pm

i would say something,

without being ugly about it.

If it got down to proving my case,

i would,

without sounding arrogant and without any horribly cutting remarks.

Well, of course, ^ ^ THAT's ^ ^ a "best-case" scenario,

and if the popular person was also a personal friend,

i might be tempted to throw in a couple of barbs!

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:11 pm

Report it let us do the work for you.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:57 pm

farmer giles;1205358 wrote: if someone very popular on FG posted something that you thought was very wrong

what would you do ??

keep quite

or speak up against it even though you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you and you would probably be about as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag if you did

I've lost more friends by speaking my mind in this forum, then I've kept. But the ones I have kept, I know I can say anything to and that they can say anything to me. Anytime. It's a proven fact.

I've been out of line a time or two. And gotten a gentle twack on the forehead from someone I respect in PM because of it. Sometimes a simple 'are you okay?' is all it takes to scare me straight and make me try to be nicer to folks for a bit...

:D

I think you have to trust that you are respected more then you would think around here.. that you've proven yourself to be a gentle man, who is not out to hurt anyones feelings.

The question isn't what happens if you say something... rather, how are you gonna feel about yourself if you don't?

Besides, I don't think there is anyone more popular then yourself..

:p

ps... what's a lucky dip bag?:-2

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:17 pm

farmer giles;1205358 wrote: if someone very popular on FG posted something that you thought was very wrong

what would you do ??

keep quite

or speak up against it even though you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you and you would probably be about as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag if you did

I've found that being a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag has a few compensations...

:sneaky:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:35 am

flopstock;1205404 wrote: I've lost more friends by speaking my mind
Dont you just:yh_rotfl and sometimes we sure have had words over things but we have gotten over it and been fine after and I will say this for you.You have no favourites here and you indeed do say what you think if you like that person or not and no matter who it is.....you also have a wicked sense of humour that has me in fits sometimes:wah:;)

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:35 am

AussiePam;1205408 wrote: I've found that being a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag has a few compensations...

:sneaky:

brilliant :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:37 am

flopstock;1205404 wrote: I've lost more friends by speaking my mind in this forum, then I've kept. But the ones I have kept, I know I can say anything to and that they can say anything to me. Anytime. It's a proven fact.

I've been out of line a time or two. And gotten a gentle twack on the forehead from someone I respect in PM because of it. Sometimes a simple 'are you okay?' is all it takes to scare me straight and make me try to be nicer to folks for a bit...

:D

I think you have to trust that you are respected more then you would think around here.. that you've proven yourself to be a gentle man, who is not out to hurt anyones feelings.

The question isn't what happens if you say something... rather, how are you gonna feel about yourself if you don't?

Besides, I don't think there is anyone more popular then yourself..

:p

ps... what's a lucky dip bag?:-2

fantastic point well made :-6:-6:-6

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:05 am

What do you mean by wrong?

Look at your signature.... Let go of your attachment to being right, and suddenly your mind is more open. You're able to benefit from the unique viewpoints of others, without being crippled by your own judgment.

Does this person have a point of view you disagree with? Are you educated enough on the point of view that you can debate it or have they said something most would find vile? If the person has said something vile to most it will have been picked up on by now and commented on wether they are popular or not. Popularity around here has never saved anyone from an ass wooping when deserved

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:36 am

buttercup;1205459 wrote: What do you mean by wrong?

Look at your signature.... Let go of your attachment to being right, and suddenly your mind is more open. You're able to benefit from the unique viewpoints of others, without being crippled by your own judgment.

Does this person have a point of view you disagree with? Are you educated enough on the point of view that you can debate it or have they said something most would find vile? If the person has said something vile to most it will have been picked up on by now and commented on wether they are popular or not. Popularity around here has never saved anyone from an ass wooping when deserved

good points thank you :-6

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:37 am

Hi Jim:-6

Speak you mind;)

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:43 am

farmer giles;1205358 wrote: if someone very popular (...) you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you

It's too late to say they're sorry, how could I know they're popular, why should I care? Do the right thing. "Popularity", "allies", "ganging up", "touch feely stuff" is the bane of FG.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:26 am

farmer giles;1205358 wrote: if someone very popular on FG posted something that you thought was very wrong

what would you do ??

keep quite

or speak up against it even though you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you and you would probably be about as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag if you did

I dont really care if im popular or not,, so i would probs say something if i felt strongly about it

but you know me ,, i usually say what i feel about something while trying not to be nasty or offensive. My friends know im straight and will say my mind even if its the oppposite view to theirs,,That dont mean you are not their friend, it just means you have different views

well thats my opinion anyway:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:49 am

[QUOTE=farmer giles;1205358]if someone very popular on FG posted something that you thought was very wrong

what would you do ??

keep quite

or speak up against it even though you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you and you would probably be about as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag if you did[/QUOTE]

It isn't really like that here is it? The first thing I would do is PM the person and discuss it in private so that it does not become a public battle. Maybe it was not intentional to begin with.

That's the best you can do really.

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:18 am

I've seen lots on here that I don't agree with, lots that I think is total bollox, sometimes I've said what I thought, most times I don't. I try to pick my fights wisely, often it's not worth the effort when you know you're not going to change an opinion - after all it's only the internet, I'll switch it off when I'm done.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:19 am

If you try to tell an idiot that they're an idiot, they will never believe you because they're idiots. So I try to not tell idiots they're idiots because it seems to me that I would be an idiot for trying.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:58 pm

farmer giles;1205358 wrote: if someone very popular on FG posted something that you thought was very wrong

what would you do ??

keep quite

or speak up against it even though you knew the popular person had loads more allies than you and you would probably be about as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip bag if you did
Is that a threat? I sent you that pm in confidence.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:03 pm

YZGI;1205684 wrote: If you try to tell an idiot that they're an idiot, they will never believe you because they're idiots. So I try to not tell idiots they're idiots because it seems to me that I would be an idiot for trying.

I whole heartedly disagree. Ive been called an idiot more times than I can count and I almost always agree with them.

Fyrenza · Post by **Fyrenza** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:12 pm

Bill Sikes;1205499 wrote: It's too late to say they're sorry, how could I know they're popular, why should I care? Do the right thing. "Popularity", "allies", "ganging up", "touch feely stuff" is the bane of FG.

Man, if it's too late for "i'm-sorry's,"

and you don't care,

what is the point of your thread?

i sort of feel like it's pointed at me, 'cuz of the FTW pic,

but, dude! Oscar got you.

(It's happened to ALL of us, at one time or another!

)

Let it go. Seriously. By continuing to post cryptic messages, completely ignoring the topic of your own thread, and not answering Oscar's questions,

it sort of looks like you're having a Drama Queen moment...

Just saying...

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:20 am

Fyrenza;1205944 wrote: Man, if it's too late for "i'm-sorry's,"

and you don't care,

what is the point of your thread?

i sort of feel like it's pointed at me, 'cuz of the FTW pic,

but, dude! Oscar got you.

(It's happened to ALL of us, at one time or another!

)

Let it go. Seriously. By continuing to post cryptic messages, completely ignoring the topic of your own thread, and not answering Oscar's questions,

it sort of looks like you're having a Drama Queen moment...

Just saying...

who is on about oscar duuuude:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

i am actually on other forums believe it or not :rolleyes:

and someone has said something i find quite offensive to someone fighting a drug problem i;m finding it very hard to keep my yapper shut

but for some reason no one else has said anything

you are pretty new here oscar and i have been bugging the hell out of each other for like for ever :wah:

its all good natured on the whole;)

why dont i reply ??? as i dont pay any attention to the crap she throws up she wont pay any to my valid fantastic points

have a nice day please feel free to add any more valid points at any time

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:33 am

How can you not say something. You cant just walk on by and pretend it didnt happen. I'm always polite but I always say if I dont agree. I dont care who it is and sometimes I might come out of it with egg on my face but I'll always give it a bash if I think it needs adressing.

Bigots must never have the loudest voices

Fyrenza · Post by **Fyrenza** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:18 am

farmer giles;1205971 wrote:

...

you are pretty new here oscar and i have been bugging the hell out of each other for like for ever :wah:

its all good natured on the whole;)

...

Okay, i was wondering about that. i, too, am a member of other forums, and have noticed the love/hate relationship some members have towards each other.

The thing that got me was when you called her Hitler... It's a pet peeve.

Hey.

Wait just a SEC...

So...

are you saying that i'm being the Drama Queen???

'Cuz i already have a day job as the Queen of the Dufii...

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:32 am

Fyrenza;1205981 wrote: Okay, i was wondering about that. i, too, am a member of other forums, and have noticed the love/hate relationship some members have towards each other.

The thing that got me was when you called her Hitler... It's a pet peeve.

Hey.

Wait just a SEC...

So...

are you saying that i'm being the Drama Queen???

'Cuz i already have a day job as the Queen of the Dufii...

ok my friend by the style of your writing i can see that you are a decent guy that has a wife that does not understand him :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

if you go back a few threads i did a fun thread called fg rules or summink like that

any way on that thread it was the way to win a fight online was to call the person a nazi which oscey had done about 20 times to me not to mention my slightly reccuud style ,the danger of just jumping in and taking sides is that you could easily end up on the side of an *******

this time you just got lucky :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Fyrenza · Post by **Fyrenza** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:48 am

farmer giles;1205988 wrote: ok my friend by the style of your writing i can see that you are a decent guy that has a wife that does not understand him :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

...

...the danger of just jumping in and taking sides is that you could easily end up on the side of an *******

this time you just got lucky :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Actually, i'm the wife, and i feel understood.

Despite my short membership time and low post count, i've read and/or been in enough discussions to know Oscar, and trust her judgement. (i do usually try to know the posters that i tend to agree with. :rolleyes: )

Ummm... If you had checked my profile? You'd know all about me... :yh_rotfl

p.s. :rolleyes: = "What can i say?" to me.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:59 am

Fyrenza;1205993 wrote: Actually, i'm the wife, and i feel understood.

Despite my short membership time and low post count, i've read and/or been in enough discussions to know Oscar, and trust her judgement. (i do usually try to know the posters that i tend to agree with. :rolleyes: )

Ummm... If you had checked my profile? You'd know all about me... :yh_rotfl

p.s. :rolleyes: = "What can i say?" to me.

i know you are female no man would be so catty ,i was having a legpull

check out your profile huh i'm not here to make friends you know :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:44 am

farmer giles;1205995 wrote:

i'm not here to make friends you know :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl That explains why you have none then.

You might consider it all good hearted banter Jumbo.......

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:01 am

oscar;1206088 wrote: That explains why you have none then.

You might consider it all good hearted banter Jumbo.......

i actually believe i do have some good friends here oscar you can not speak for everyone :p:p:):)

i do think its banter i know there is no point arguing with you there is no way you would even take on board anything i say

but if i just cost the racist BNP one vote and just opened a few people's eyes to what vile monsters they really are then job done

:)

and jumbo indeed not only are you racist you are baldest and weightest :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

yet i have never said one thing about you that is unpleasant in the least :-6:-6

hater :wah::wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:36 am

farmer giles;1206125 wrote: i actually believe i do have some good friends here oscar you can not speak for everyone :p:p:):)

i do think its banter i know there is no point arguing with you there is no way you would even take on board anything i say

but if i just cost the racist BNP one vote and just opened a few people's eyes to what vile monsters they really are then job done

:)

and jumbo indeed not only are you racist you are baldest and weightest :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

yet i have never said one thing about you that is unpleasant in the least :-6:-6

hater :wah::wah: Haven't you worked it out yet Jumbo...... Your attacks on the BNP do not put people off...... you simply make people look at them more closely. When they do look more closely, it is then they see OTHER policies on health, education, enviroment, crime etc that make a lot of sense that mainstram parties are failing to address right now. Every time you post anti-BNP proganda, you make one person look more closely at them. For every 10 people that do take take a closer look, 2 of those people may like other policies enough to vote for them. So you carry on Jumbo....... not so smart as you think eh?

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:43 am

oscar;1206131 wrote: Haven't you worked it out yet Jumbo...... Your attacks on the BNP do not put people off...... you simply make people look at them more closely. When they do look more closely, it is then they see OTHER policies on health, education, enviroment, crime etc that make a lot of sense that mainstram parties are failing to address right now. Every time you post anti-BNP proganda, you make one person look more closely at them. For every 10 people that do take take a closer look, 2 of those people may like other policies enough to vote for them. So you carry on Jumbo....... not so smart as you think eh?

i'm as smart as i am handsome :-3:-3

the only people that will vote for them knowing what the really stand for are racist any normal minded person would look at them and be disgusted

:D

and i will carry on and on and on thank you for the invite :sneaky::sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:46 am

[QUOTE=farmer giles;1206132]i'm as smart as i am handsome :-3:-3

QUOTE] That'll be thick as shyte then.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:49 am

oscar;1206133 wrote: [QUOTE=farmer giles;1206132]i'm as smart as i am handsome :-3:-3

QUOTE] That'll be thick as shyte then.

sorry bo derek :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:50 am

farmer giles;1206135 wrote: [QUOTE=oscar;1206133]

sorry bo derek :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Sad

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:52 am

oscar;1206136 wrote: [QUOTE=farmer giles;1206135]

Sad

i'm not i'm well happy life could not be much better at the moment :-6:-6

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:55 am

farmer giles;1206137 wrote: [QUOTE=oscar;1206136]

i'm not i'm well happy life could not be much better at the moment :-6:-6 Good for you..... you can carry on arguing with yourself. I have to go and annoy the daylights out of some muslims. Have a pleasent evening talking to yourself.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:57 am

oscar;1206138 wrote: [QUOTE=farmer giles;1206137] Good for you..... you can carry on arguing with yourself. I have to go and annoy the daylights out of some muslims. Have a pleasent evening talking to yourself.

i shall be talking to others on fg just not you :wah::wah::wah::)

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:58 am

farmer giles;1206141 wrote: [QUOTE=oscar;1206138]

i shall be talking to others on fg just not you :wah::wah::wah::)
Sorry.... did you say something?

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:58 am

oscar;1206142 wrote: [QUOTE=farmer giles;1206141]

Sorry.... did you say something?

who said that

:)

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:22 am

farmer giles;1206132 wrote: i'm as smart as i am handsome :-3:-3

the only people that will vote for them knowing what the really stand for are racist any normal minded person would look at them and be disgusted

:D

and i will carry on and on and on thank you for the invite :sneaky::sneaky:

:yh_clap:yh_clap Not necessarily the point of the thread but the post I agree most with

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:34 am

Imladris;1206148 wrote: :yh_clap:yh_clap Not necessarily the point of the thread but the post I agree most with

I agree too. The racist element of the party CANNOT be ignored. Pure and simple

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:37 am

farmer giles;1205971 wrote: who is on about oscar duuuude:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

i am actually on other forums believe it or not :rolleyes:

and someone has said something i find quite offensive to someone fighting a drug problem i;m finding it very hard to keep my yapper shut

but for some reason no one else has said anything

you are pretty new here oscar and i have been bugging the hell out of each other for like for ever :wah:

its all good natured on the whole;)

why dont i reply ??? as i dont pay any attention to the crap she throws up she wont pay any to my valid fantastic points

have a nice day please feel free to add any more valid points at any time

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

now jimbo... this cracked me up..:yh_rotfl

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:46 am

flopstock;1206161 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

now jimbo... this cracked me up..:yh_rotfl

thanks flopper :wah: i think

Fyrenza · Post by **Fyrenza** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:13 pm

So let me get this straight:

Y'all would RATHER vote for THIEVES and LIARS,

because they aren't "disgusting" to you???

Good luck with that... :rolleyes:

i believe what Oscar is trying to do is to get y'all to look at ALL of the issues and ALL of the Partys.

i'm sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but NO Party is perfect.

If y'all would look over ALL of the issues,

and the WAYS that each party wants to handle them,

you might be amazed to find out that you DO agree with some of the folks you previously just immediately threw out because of some something that "disgusted" you.

Unfortunately, we're all finding ourselves voting for the "Lesser Evil," which means that ALL of the Partys have something "disgusting" about them.

Just saying...

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:18 am

Fyrenza;1206892 wrote: So let me get this straight:

Y'all would RATHER vote for THIEVES and LIARS,

because they aren't "disgusting" to you???

Good luck with that... :rolleyes:

i believe what Oscar is trying to do is to get y'all to look at ALL of the issues and ALL of the Partys.

i'm sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but NO Party is perfect.

If y'all would look over ALL of the issues,

and the WAYS that each party wants to handle them,

you might be amazed to find out that you DO agree with some of the folks you previously just immediately threw out because of some something that "disgusted" you.

Unfortunately, we're all finding ourselves voting for the "Lesser Evil," which means that ALL of the Partys have something "disgusting" about them.

Just saying...

no i would rather vote for fine upstanding decent kind people with a decent sense of humour ...... but unfortunatly i'm not up for election

:)

what you believe oscar is up to matters little to me

what does matter me is when decent people are hoodwinked into voting for a racist party believing them to be non racist .... its the racism i have a problem with ,judging a fellow because of the colour of his skin went out with ducking a witch in a pond if she died she was not a witch but if she lived she was ,i was kinda wondering how many hours you can hold your breath for :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:31 am

Fyrenza;1205944 wrote: font="Verdana"]size="3"]color=#000033]Man, if it's too late for "i'm-sorry's,"

If you're talking to me, I posted some words from an old lyric in that post. I'm not sure at all what the rest of your post is about, though.

Bill Sikes · Post by **Bill Sikes** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:39 am

Fyrenza;1206892 wrote: font="Verdana"]size="3"]color=#000033]

i'm sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but NO Party is perfect.

If y'all would look over ALL of the issues,

No party is perfect, of course. However, some of them are positively disgusting. The BNP, and all their members, symapathisers, and hangers-on are positively disgusting. They exist at the very borders of legitimacy, and are sometimes on the wrong side of them.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:56 am

Bill Sikes;1206964 wrote: No party is perfect, of course. However, some of them are positively disgusting. The BNP, and all their members, symapathisers, and hangers-on are positively disgusting. They exist at the very borders of legitimacy, and are sometimes on the wrong side of them.

agreed

Fyrenza · Post by **Fyrenza** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:46 am

Bill Sikes;1206962 wrote: If you're talking to me, I posted some words from an old lyric in that post. I'm not sure at all what the rest of your post is about, though.

Sorry about that ~

i noodled out...

i DID mean to quote your post, but my message was more for Giles.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:49 am

Fyrenza;1206997 wrote: Sorry about that ~

i noodled out...

i DID mean to quote your post, but my message was more for Giles.

you mean farmer giles ... giles is a butler :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl