are you offended

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:04 am

i watched this video and i was squirming with uncomfortableness

yet i have not one arguement about the topic the guy was saying why is that

are we all not capable of rational thought

YouTube - 'I Am Offended!' - Richard Dawkins @ UC Berkeley

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:13 am

I agree with everything he says

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:20 am

how about this

YouTube - A Lesson for All Christians (by Dawkins) part 1

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:29 am

Spot on. I cannot argue with a word he says. I agree with it all. Its compatable with the way I think

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:33 am

Snowfire;1209667 wrote: Spot on. I cannot argue with a word he says. I agree with it all. Its compatable with the way I think

i think you are on the right track my friend my mind is stuck at a fork on that track but is itching to go with your direction on your track

:)

you cannot fault the guys logic can you ,no doubt there will be some brimstone throwers damning our souls in a never ending lake of fire but there you have it

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:43 am

farmer giles;1209671 wrote: i think you are on the right track my friend my mind is stuck at a fork on that track but is itching to go with your direction on your track

:)

you cannot fault the guys logic can you ,no doubt there will be some brimstone throwers damning our souls in a never ending lake of fire but there you have it

I'm quite happy for them to damn me to hell - where ever that may be - I sleep well at night knowing that when i die the light is turned off and the world carries on regardless. I have no faith, I do not believe in a creator. Its as simple as that for me. I have no struggle with that what so ever.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:45 am

Snowfire;1209675 wrote: I'm quite happy for them to damn me to hell - where ever that may be - I sleep well at night knowing that when i die the light is turned off and the world carries on regardless. I have no faith, I do not believe in a creator. Its as simple as that for me. I have no struggle with that what so ever.

good man

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:49 am

Its about time however that athiests were given equal status in society. I believe in some states of the US they are prohibited from holding public office and are not regarded as patriots or citizens. How odd ! What is the thinking behind that ?

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:14 am

Snowfire;1209682 wrote: Its about time however that athiests were given equal status in society. I believe in some states of the US they are prohibited from holding public office and are not regarded as patriots or citizens. How odd ! What is the thinking behind that ?

just like a small child who believes the booger man is under his bed every free thinking person has to weigh up the facts and start to realise maybe there is no god ,no devil ,no angels we one life live it be happy

or still stay under the blankets in case the booger man gets them

or in this case the none existing god might burn them in hell for eternity for not believing

evolution is a proven fact i have yet to see anything that could point to a god

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:28 am

try this link

YouTube - richarddawkinsdotnet's Channel

tracy829 · Post by **tracy829** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:16 pm

I like this guy

buttercup · Post by **buttercup** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:28 pm

Snowfire;1209675 wrote: I'm quite happy for them to damn me to hell - where ever that may be - I sleep well at night knowing that when i die the light is turned off and the world carries on regardless. I have no faith, I do not believe in a creator. Its as simple as that for me. I have no struggle with that what so ever.

Ditto.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:36 pm

I like anyone who suggests and offers original points of views free from declaration of absolute truth. I respect his opinion but disregard his theory that religion is the cause of mans shortcomings.

Simply mans inability to tolerate differing views are the source of mans degradation.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:21 am

Nomad;1209996 wrote: I like anyone who suggests and offers original points of views free from declaration of absolute truth. I respect his opinion but disregard his theory that religion is the cause of mans shortcomings.

Simply mans inability to tolerate differing views are the source of mans degradation.

agreed nomie ,the bible though not written by god in my view at the very least offers a great guide to live a good life

its just some people as the guy said cherry pick out to justify evil ends

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:00 pm

Nomad;1209996 wrote: I like anyone who suggests and offers original points of views free from declaration of absolute truth. I respect his opinion but disregard his theory that religion is the cause of mans shortcomings.

Simply mans inability to tolerate differing views are the source of mans degradation.

Is it not the case that religious belief by it's very nature causes that inability to tolerate different views and allow other to live their lives as they choose?

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:14 pm

where is the dave allen vid that was great

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:44 am

farmer giles;1210385 wrote: where is the dave allen vid that was great

you mean this one?

YouTube - Dave Allen on Religion

YouTube - Landover Baptist Pastor Preaches to Atheists

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:04 am

well buddy i think you are a non believer

:)

this in your face now say sorry to your loving god that gives you unconditional love as long as you follow everything he says unconditionally

now watch this vid and repent:)

YouTube - Checkmate, Atheists!

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:48 am

farmer giles;1210591 wrote: well buddy i think you are a non believer

:)

this in your face now say sorry to your loving god that gives you unconditional love as long as you follow everything he says unconditionally

now watch this vid and repent:)

YouTube - Checkmate, Atheists!

It's hard to tell with some of these whether they are a spoof or actually genuine.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:44 am

gmc;1210376 wrote: Is it not the case that religious belief by it's very nature causes that inability to tolerate different views and allow other to live their lives as they choose?

Yes and no. Extremism is unbalanced. Respect and tolerance are human aspects that allow others to pursue their own beliefs without feeling threatened. A reasonable person understands anothers right to worship in their own way is valid. An extremist is determined to either attempt to change someones differences or denounce them as invalid.

I believe differences can co-exist with tolerance and balance.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:52 am

Nomad;1210637 wrote: Yes and no. Extremism is unbalanced. Respect and tolerance are human aspects that allow others to pursue their own beliefs without feeling threatened. A reasonable person understands anothers right to worship in their own way is valid. An extremist is determined to either attempt to change someones differences or denounce them as invalid.

I believe differences can co-exist with tolerance and balance.

Actually it's the differences that make people interesting. Unfortunately with the religious-at least for some of them -they up either trying to convert and if that doesn't work or trying to destroy those who don't see things their way. It's a moot point whether religion makes people worse or is actually the cause of that kind of attitude. You don't really get extremist free thinkers do you- but monotheism has to destroy or discredit those who would dispute the belief system. There's not a lot of room for dialogue with someone who believes there is only one answer and it's they one they believe.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:16 am

[QUOTE=gmc;1210701]Actually it's the differences that make people interesting. Unfortunately with the religious-at least for some of them -they up either trying to convert and if that doesn't work or trying to destroy those who don't see things their way. It's a moot point whether religion makes people worse or is actually the cause of that kind of attitude. You don't really get extremist free thinkers do you- but monotheism has to destroy or discredit those who would dispute the belief system. There's not a lot of room for dialogue with someone who believes there is only one answer and it's they one they believe.[/QUOTE

i see you have spoken to her too then

:)