Wick3d D3vi4nt.....why was she banned?

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:33 pm

She is just a newbie here, she is a wonderful friend!

She really cares about people and its shows.

I seriously hope the mods think about asking her back..........

I can see an infraction but a permanent ban?

she is a bit wicked.........but everyone is at times!:rolleyes:

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:39 pm

Odie

it might have something to do with her reply in one

of those 9/11 threads.

comment was extensive..

sorry -

Patsy

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:43 pm

Patsy Warnick;1241819 wrote: Odie

it might have something to do with her reply in one

of those 9/11 threads.

comment was extensive..

sorry -

Patsy

-but c'mon, one post?

not even an infraction first?

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:50 pm

Have you had a chance to read the reply?

I didn't say I enforced this - in fact I didn't know this person - I didn't know this person was banned until you posted this...

sorry Odie

campaign for her to come back - I don't know what else to suggest..?

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:53 pm

Can we appeal to the mods to reconsider on this?

We have all said and written in haste and I do agree the personal content on another member was inappropriate. However, She posted on a thread that was touching a nerve with many people on that day. ( 9/11 ) Her country was being attacked on that thread and on the anniversary of 9/11.

Please re-consider.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:56 pm

The only time we are rewarded a Infraction

is because That NERVE was HIT....

and it'll HIT every one at some point.....

that's life

Patsy

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:16 pm

Patsy Warnick;1241828 wrote: The only time we are rewarded a Infraction

is because That NERVE was HIT....

and it'll HIT every one at some point.....

that's life

Patsy Surely, as she is new to the forum and just took out membership, an Infraction and warning not to get personal would have been surfice?

G-man · Post by **G-man** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:01 pm

Patsy Warnick;1241828 wrote: The only time we are rewarded a Infraction

is because That NERVE was HIT....

and it'll HIT every one at some point.....

She didn't receive an infraction. This was a PERMANENT ban. It's like capital punishment, like a bullet in the forehead, it's permanent. This was a first time offense from a young women who is barely an adult, who reacted emotionally to a thread that was solely posted to incite such a response. Btw, her reply (the inoffensive portion) essentially closed the thread and left nothing else to debate.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:18 pm

G-Man

perhaps Wicked was A.K.A. some one else..

the response leads me to believe they were familiar with all FG..!!

and if a reply closed a thread as you say - then nothing else needs to be said...

interesting your defending wicked.????

Patsy

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:24 pm

Patsy Warnick;1241837 wrote: G-Man

perhaps Wicked was A.K.A. some one else..

the response leads me to believe they were familiar with all FG..!!

and if a reply closed a thread as you say - then nothing else needs to be said...

interesting your defending wicked.????

Patsy

why wouldn't he, he is the highest mod/admin here.

-believe it or not.....some of our mods do really care for us.

and it was her first offense.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:47 pm

Odie

I didn't realise MODS had a RANK..

whats there to defend here??

who is SHE A.K.A. WD ??

Patsy

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:57 pm

Odie

do you realise how strong you come across.??

in this thread - it's almost a threatening tone...

you see some things can be mis-understood

this is your thread - I replied & was surprised on the banned.

I don't know the MODS & don't care who they are or what RANK they may have..

HELL - ASK THE HEAD MOD - WHY WICKED IS BANNED

why make a thread out of it if you know so much..??

Patsy

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:09 am

G-man;1241835 wrote: She didn't receive an infraction. This was a PERMANENT ban. It's like capital punishment, like a bullet in the forehead, it's permanent. This was a first time offense from a young women who is barely an adult, who reacted emotionally to a thread that was solely posted to incite such a response. Btw, her reply (the inoffensive portion) essentially closed the thread and left nothing else to debate.

I'm not at all surprised she's been banned. It was inevitable really. She appears to be intelligent, sparky, educated, interesting... but of course I did note that she has been guilty of lèse-majesté!!!! Now all that has magically been neatly sanitised away, just like it never was.. And - her head is forfeit.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:12 am

Odie;1241816 wrote: She is just a newbie here, she is a wonderful friend!

She really cares about people and its shows.

I seriously hope the mods think about asking her back..........

I can see an infraction but a permanent ban?

she is a bit wicked.........but everyone is at times!:rolleyes:Why the hell do we have to justify ourselves every time someone gets banned, then get hauled over the coals for doing it?

That is between the admin and WKD.

Odie;1241839 wrote: why wouldn't he, he is the highest mod/admin here.

The last time I looked we were all equal, unpaid lackeys that have to stand by and have the crap kicked out of us when threads like this are created.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:50 am

Well, whoever she was, I enjoyed her posts. I didn’t see the one that got her banned so I cannot comment, but if it was the 911 thread that I replied to saying that I thought it the entire thread was inappropriate then I could see how someone would have lost the plot as the thread was asking for trouble to begin with.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:31 am

Patsy Warnick;1241841 wrote: Odie

I didn't realise MODS had a RANK..

whats there to defend here??

who is SHE A.K.A. WD ??

PatsyThats because we DONT Patsy and we are all the same as you correctly think.I have no idea where these thoughts come from and because some of us may work behind the scenes getting rid of Spam and trying to sort matters out that are reported some seem to think we do nothing I think Abbey sums it up very well in her post.

Patsy Warnick;1241845 wrote: Odie

do you realise how strong you come across.??

in this thread - it's almost a threatening tone...

you see some things can be mis-understood

this is your thread - I replied & was surprised on the banned.

I don't know the MODS & don't care who they are or what RANK they may have..

HELL - ASK THE HEAD MOD - WHY WICKED IS BANNED

why make a thread out of it if you know so much..??

PatsyYes indeed why make a Thread out of it and as Abbey says have the crap kicked out of us when threads like this are created Glad other Members can see this.....thankyou Patsy.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:54 am

abbey;1241859 wrote: Why the hell do we have to justify ourselves every time someone gets banned, then get hauled over the coals for doing it?
Abbey you know I luv ya, but why the hell shouldn't you have to justify every ban? This site is a business, dependent on the good will of the members. No good will, no members. No members, no business.

How hard is it to justify? So-and-so was banned for numerous complaints reflecting his/her violation of TOS rule #3.

farmer giles · Post by **farmer giles** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:03 am

Accountable;1241879 wrote: Abbey you know I luv ya, but why the hell shouldn't you have to justify every ban? This site is a business, dependent on the good will of the members. No good will, no members. No members, no business.

How hard is it to justify? So-and-so was banned for numerous complaints reflecting his/her violation of TOS rule #3.

we seldom agree on much acc but i still like you and think you are a kind decent man

people come onto fg to make friends and some spend money to join here and invest many hundreds of hours investing in friendhips here ,i have spoken to Gman for years ,its upsetting that he has left ,i liked the guy,i dont know if evil devil or whatever who was gona kick out 8 ways of krap outa me :Dwas his partner,but surely when a good member leaves and us the people who read the adds and banners on fg even if we dont pay for memebership the addds pay to keep the site,we should be able to get a reason its not a matter of national security is it :-3:-3

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:46 am

abbey;1241859 wrote: Why the hell do we have to justify ourselves every time someone gets banned, then get hauled over the coals for doing it?

That is between the admin and WKD.

The last time I looked we were all equal, unpaid lackeys that have to stand by and have the crap kicked out of us when threads like this are created.

I don't know why your so upset with me, this is the first time I have asked!:-5

I never raked anyone over the coals, I was simply asking!

I only asked for her forgiveness and perhaps have her back here.

It didn't work, but at least I tried!

Some mods have different experience levels, and handle things in different ways.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:49 am

Accountable;1241879 wrote: Abbey you know I luv ya, but why the hell shouldn't you have to justify every ban? This site is a business, dependent on the good will of the members. No good will, no members. No members, no business.

How hard is it to justify? So-and-so was banned for numerous complaints reflecting his/her violation of TOS rule #3.I wouldn't dream of repeating her post out of respect of the members concerned but I will tell you She was banned for;

Inappropriate Language

Points; 1

No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.

Points; 1

No "Offensive" Posts, Links or Images:

Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not.

Points; 1

3 Points = a ban

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:50 am

farmer giles;1241880 wrote: we seldom agree on much acc but i still like you and think you are a kind decent man

people come onto fg to make friends and some spend money to join here and invest many hundreds of hours investing in friendhips here ,i have spoken to Gman for years ,its upsetting that he has left ,i liked the guy,i dont know if evil devil or whatever who was gona kick out 8 ways of krap outa me :Dwas his partner,but surely when a good member leaves and us the people who read the adds and banners on fg even if we dont pay for memebership the addds pay to keep the site,we should be able to get a reason its not a matter of national security is it :-3:-3

exactly............people come here to make friends.....

I had no money for a month to support, I just signed up the other day to support our forum!

I am also extremely upset that Greg has left!:-5:-5

- I am sure Chris is extremely upset as they were great friends!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:58 am

Odie;1241888 wrote: I don't know why your so upset with me, this is the first time I have asked!:-5
No it's not, You asked an hour before you created this thread!

Odie;1241888 wrote: I never raked anyone over the coals, I was simply asking!

I only asked for her forgiveness and perhaps have her back here.

It didn't work, but at least I tried!

Some mods have different experience levels, and handle things in different ways. All decisions are made collectively.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:59 am

abbey;1241893 wrote: No it's not, You asked an hour before you created this thread!

All decisions are made collectively.

-this thread was the first time I have posted that a member to be aloud back!

and this thread was posted last night.

8 hours ago.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:03 am

I'm not going round in circles with you odie, My post was made in answer to "Wick3d D3vi4nt.....why was she banned?"

Not the content of your post but the title.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:08 am

abbey;1241895 wrote: I'm not going round in circles with you odie, My post was made in answer to "Wick3d D3vi4nt.....why was she banned?"

Not the content of your post but the title.

you never understood what I just posted.

doesn't matter now.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:37 am

Thank you Abbey as for MOD rankings there aren't any we are equal. The "Top Dog" is TS that simple.

I wouldn't dream of repeating her post out of respect of the members concerned but I will tell you She was banned for;

Inappropriate Language

Points; 1

No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.

Points; 1

No "Offensive" Posts, Links or Images:

Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not.

Points; 1

3 Points = a ban

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:59 am

I am not mod bashing any of the mods, infact, a few have been very good to me and I respect it is a difficult unpaid labour of love to FG.

I just feel that in this case, a permanent ban was too severe for the ladies first offence and an infraction and warning would have resolved the matter.

Again, I do believe that she said what she said because she saw her country being attacked on the anniversary of 9/11 of all days. I also strongly objected to the thread and felt it was appalling timing and un-nessessary to our US members.

Could the mods have a debate on this and re-consider please? She is a young girl and that should be taken into account.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:59 am

Carolly;1241871 wrote: Thats because we DONT Patsy and we are all the same as you correctly think.I have no idea where these thoughts come from and because some of us may work behind the scenes getting rid of Spam and trying to sort matters out that are reported some seem to think we do nothing I think Abbey sums it up very well in her post.

Yes indeed why make a Thread out of it and as Abbey says Glad other Members can see this.....thankyou Patsy.

'have the crap kicked out of us when threads like this are created'

Other members have appealed for their friends here as well, I was not kicking the crap out of any mod!:-5:-5

I and others were simply asking if it could be re-considered as other bans were re-considered.

seems now, we can no longer just ask?

fine.......end of.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:19 am

Ian;1241938 wrote: Can someone tell me what she said to get banned?
Wow, you expect me to fall for this? Trying to get me banned eh? Nice try.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:31 am

Ian;1241953 wrote: :wah: okay then just whisper it in my ear

If you send me enough money, I will e mail it to you. I'm open to bribery for the right amount.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:44 am

Ian;1241964 wrote: I dont pay for text

will a massage do?
I'll accept the massage but I want oils.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:59 am

Ian;1241978 wrote: Okay then...

oils are good, less friction and an all together smoother rubdown

hey hey hey slow down here, what do I get?:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

and I thought we were friends, oh well, easy come, easy go!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:02 am

Ian;1241978 wrote: Okay then...

oils are good, less friction and an all together smoother rubdown

I am partial to the occassional smoother rubdown. And please trim your nails before you start.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:03 am

Ian;1241982 wrote: No probs Odie I have plenty of oils to go round

lavender?

your on, my place or yours?:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:23 am

Ian;1241993 wrote:

Best to use my place I have a special massage table

Does it vibrate?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:42 am

Ian;1242001 wrote: It does eveything you can imagine

Sorry to take this thread off but it reminded me of something that happened to me. I was freelance sales at one point and I was taken on to demonstrate and sell a brand new vibrating massage table in Harrods owned by Al Fayed in London. It was priced up at £2,000 a huge amount of money back then so interested customers were few and far between. To cut a long story short.... I fell asleep on it in the middle of the store and woke to a small crowd of bemused Japanese tourists staring at me. :yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:39 am

oscar;1241998 wrote: Does it vibrate?

now look her missy....that was from Ian to me.....so butt out eh?:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:40 am

Ian;1241993 wrote:

Best to use my place I have a special massage table

I don't require vibration, I can do that on my own!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

almostfamous · Post by **almostfamous** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:57 am

This is so retarded........ yet again, someone is being banned without a heads up to shape up or ship out. I've yet to hear that any of what she said was a lie either, just that it ruffled someone's feathers. I didn't have the pleasure of reading the removed portion but I commended the hell out of WD for standing up to someone that was making a mockery of our country.

Where is the infraction to Spot for flaming every damn one of us Americans. From now on, I'll be hitting the report post button everytime he makes a remark against MY COUNTRY. If we have to censor ourselves to keep from making Spot cry then he should have to censor his comments to keep from offending others here and ultimately getting them banned indirectly.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... too much favoritism here. A bunch of damn sheep if you ask me.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:44 am

almostfamous;1242021 wrote: This is so retarded........ yet again, someone is being banned without a heads up to shape up or ship out. I've yet to hear that any of what she said was a lie either, just that it ruffled someone's feathers. I didn't have the pleasure of reading the removed portion but I commended the hell out of WD for standing up to someone that was making a mockery of our country.

Where is the infraction to Spot for flaming every damn one of us Americans. From now on, I'll be hitting the report post button everytime he makes a remark against MY COUNTRY. If we have to censor ourselves to keep from making Spot cry then he should have to censor his comments to keep from offending others here and ultimately getting them banned indirectly.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... too much favoritism here. A bunch of damn sheep if you ask me.

I also despise when he puts down the US, as they are my neighbours.:-5:-5

oh and well said!:D