this really is an insult to all the brave foriegners who have shed blood to keep these islands and indeed the world free :-5
the BNP will erode the very fabric of our society if we let them i feel if there were more people like cloddy and gmc speaking up against fascists and racist before WW2 then millions of lives would have been saved,but those people would not of died in vain if we learn the lessons of their tragic loss,we must make sure it is not allowed to happen again we owe it to them and to countless other millions
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Several high-profile former military chiefs are warning the Army is in danger of being hijacked by far right groups, like the BNP. t
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They have written a letter warning that political extremists have no right to share the Armed Forces' proud reputation.
Signed by former heads of the Army, General Sir Mike Jackson and General Sir Richard Dannatt, amongst others, the letter says far right groups were "fundamentally at odds" with the values of the British military.
The move follows the British National Party's (BNP) tactic of using pictures of Winston Churchill and wartime imagery during recent European election campaigns.
The letter reads: "We call on all those who seek to hijack the good name of Britain's military for their own advantage to cease and desist."
General Jackson specifically attacked the BNP for using the Army's image. He told the Times newspaper: "The BNP is claiming that it has a better relationship with the Armed Forces than other political parties.
"How dare they use the image of the Army, in particular, to promote their policies. These people are beyond the pale."
It is reported BNP leader Nick Griffin has hit back, branding the intervention by the ex-Army chiefs "in bad taste".
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Good for Dannatt and Jackson! :-6
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
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posted by farmer giles.
the BNP will erode the very fabric of our society if we let them i feel if there were more people like cloddy and gmc speaking up against fascists and racist before WW2 then millions of lives would have been saved,but those people would not of died in vain if we learn the lessons of their tragic loss,we must make sure it is not allowed to happen again we owe it to them and to countless other millions
Actually there were plenty of people speaking out just not from the establishment. Now we associate right wing politics with racism but first and foremost it was political and economic and anti-communist which is why so many of the establishment and not a few industrialists (including jewish ones) were attracted to it. Anti-semitism was rife anyway and it was not the issue for thne nazis it was to become later. Hitler conflated jewish bankers with communists and blamed them for everything. (marx was jewish if you recall) to an establishment terrified of their own people rising in revolt you can understand the attraction
It wasn't the jews hitler silenced first it was the left wing and the liberal opposition leadership that would have spoken out.
The Battle of Cable Street
On 4th October 1936, people in the East End of London stopped Oswald Mosley and his British Union of Fascists marching through Cable Street, in Stepney, then a mainly Jewish area. A slogan from the Spanish Civil War, a popular anti-fascist cause of the time, was widely used: They Shall Not Pass - No Pasaran!
Volunteers from Britain and Ireland in the Spanish Civil War
Anti-semitism and racism were part and parcel of everyday life once upon a time.
The BNP quite frankly are intellectual pygmies with nothing but the racism.
the BNP will erode the very fabric of our society if we let them i feel if there were more people like cloddy and gmc speaking up against fascists and racist before WW2 then millions of lives would have been saved,but those people would not of died in vain if we learn the lessons of their tragic loss,we must make sure it is not allowed to happen again we owe it to them and to countless other millions
Actually there were plenty of people speaking out just not from the establishment. Now we associate right wing politics with racism but first and foremost it was political and economic and anti-communist which is why so many of the establishment and not a few industrialists (including jewish ones) were attracted to it. Anti-semitism was rife anyway and it was not the issue for thne nazis it was to become later. Hitler conflated jewish bankers with communists and blamed them for everything. (marx was jewish if you recall) to an establishment terrified of their own people rising in revolt you can understand the attraction
It wasn't the jews hitler silenced first it was the left wing and the liberal opposition leadership that would have spoken out.
The Battle of Cable Street
On 4th October 1936, people in the East End of London stopped Oswald Mosley and his British Union of Fascists marching through Cable Street, in Stepney, then a mainly Jewish area. A slogan from the Spanish Civil War, a popular anti-fascist cause of the time, was widely used: They Shall Not Pass - No Pasaran!
Volunteers from Britain and Ireland in the Spanish Civil War
Anti-semitism and racism were part and parcel of everyday life once upon a time.
The BNP quite frankly are intellectual pygmies with nothing but the racism.
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[QUOTE=gmc;1254015
The BNP quite frankly are intellectual pygmies with nothing but the racism.[/QUOTE] Funny how Mosely and Enoch Powell went on to be Knighted.
This article is utterly pathetic.
Let's say I was a member of the BNP. I have a very long Military history in my family as you know. My husband has 4 nephews currently in Iraq and Afghan. If I were a member, why the hell should I not be supporting the forces. Or is that another doctrine from our Government? If you join the BNP, you can not be proud of your family or associate with the RBL? They need to get real. There were many many war vets and members of the RBL at the BNP meeting I went to.
The BNP quite frankly are intellectual pygmies with nothing but the racism.[/QUOTE] Funny how Mosely and Enoch Powell went on to be Knighted.
This article is utterly pathetic.
Let's say I was a member of the BNP. I have a very long Military history in my family as you know. My husband has 4 nephews currently in Iraq and Afghan. If I were a member, why the hell should I not be supporting the forces. Or is that another doctrine from our Government? If you join the BNP, you can not be proud of your family or associate with the RBL? They need to get real. There were many many war vets and members of the RBL at the BNP meeting I went to.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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oscar;1254040 wrote: Funny how Mosely and Enoch Powell went on to be Knighted.
This article is utterly pathetic.
Let's say I was a member of the BNP. I have a very long Military history in my family as you know. My husband has 4 nephews currently in Iraq and Afghan. If I were a member, why the hell should I not be supporting the forces. Or is that another doctrine from our Government? If you join the BNP, you can not be proud of your family or associate with the RBL? They need to get real. There were many many war vets and members of the RBL at the BNP meeting I went to.
They weren't actually in the BNP oscar were they?
It would be equally objectionable if the tories or labour puled the same kind of stunt. If you don't see what's wrong with this then I give up on you.
This article is utterly pathetic.
Let's say I was a member of the BNP. I have a very long Military history in my family as you know. My husband has 4 nephews currently in Iraq and Afghan. If I were a member, why the hell should I not be supporting the forces. Or is that another doctrine from our Government? If you join the BNP, you can not be proud of your family or associate with the RBL? They need to get real. There were many many war vets and members of the RBL at the BNP meeting I went to.
They weren't actually in the BNP oscar were they?
It would be equally objectionable if the tories or labour puled the same kind of stunt. If you don't see what's wrong with this then I give up on you.
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gmc;1254060 wrote: They weren't actually in the BNP oscar were they?
It would be equally objectionable if the tories or labour puled the same kind of stunt. If you don't see what's wrong with this then I give up on you. You could argue the contadiction of my family fighting to stop fascism and then argue that fascism is what the BNP is about. However, my argument in this particular article is that we all have members of family associated with wars but it should not affect our choosing of who we want to vote for. Is that not what we fought for? The freedom to choose any registered political party of our choosing and not be dictated to as the UAF demands? It's pathetic. In the 30's the bogey amn was Mosely, the 60's Enoch Powell and now Griffin. Wonder if we'll see Griffin knighted as the other former two were?
It would be equally objectionable if the tories or labour puled the same kind of stunt. If you don't see what's wrong with this then I give up on you. You could argue the contadiction of my family fighting to stop fascism and then argue that fascism is what the BNP is about. However, my argument in this particular article is that we all have members of family associated with wars but it should not affect our choosing of who we want to vote for. Is that not what we fought for? The freedom to choose any registered political party of our choosing and not be dictated to as the UAF demands? It's pathetic. In the 30's the bogey amn was Mosely, the 60's Enoch Powell and now Griffin. Wonder if we'll see Griffin knighted as the other former two were?
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The Union flag has been the property of the right wing for years.
The outcry about displaying it during Euro 96 was not about displaying the flag, more about the connotations flying the flag held in peoples minds.
The outcry about displaying it during Euro 96 was not about displaying the flag, more about the connotations flying the flag held in peoples minds.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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oscar;1254062 wrote: You could argue the contadiction of my family fighting to stop fascism and then argue that fascism is what the BNP is about. However, my argument in this particular article is that we all have members of family associated with wars but it should not affect our choosing of who we want to vote for. Is that not what we fought for? The freedom to choose any registered political party of our choosing and not be dictated to as the UAF demands? It's pathetic. In the 30's the bogey amn was Mosely, the 60's Enoch Powell and now Griffin. Wonder if we'll see Griffin knighted as the other former two were?
The debate is about whether any part can legitimately hijack the reputation of the armed forces and somehow claim they represent them more than other parties or are somehow more patriotic. It would be equally offensive if the tories, labour, liberals or the SNP did it.
The BNP is not about facism it is just racist.
posted by bruv
The Union flag has been the property of the right wing for years.
The outcry about displaying it during Euro 96 was not about displaying the flag, more about the connotations flying the flag held in peoples minds.
It shouldn't have been displayed during euro 96 or indeed any match where it is england playing as it is a UNION flag not an ENGLISH flag. At least nowadays english football supporters do seem to have got out the habit and use either the cross of st George or the three lions. Bout time too.
The debate is about whether any part can legitimately hijack the reputation of the armed forces and somehow claim they represent them more than other parties or are somehow more patriotic. It would be equally offensive if the tories, labour, liberals or the SNP did it.
The BNP is not about facism it is just racist.
posted by bruv
The Union flag has been the property of the right wing for years.
The outcry about displaying it during Euro 96 was not about displaying the flag, more about the connotations flying the flag held in peoples minds.
It shouldn't have been displayed during euro 96 or indeed any match where it is england playing as it is a UNION flag not an ENGLISH flag. At least nowadays english football supporters do seem to have got out the habit and use either the cross of st George or the three lions. Bout time too.
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farmer giles;1254133 wrote: this says it all oscey 
There is Nothing British about the BNP mmmm a Couple of war vets? How about rows and rows of them in a BNP meeting? You'll have to take my word for that one.
There is Nothing British about the BNP mmmm a Couple of war vets? How about rows and rows of them in a BNP meeting? You'll have to take my word for that one.
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gmc;1254078 wrote:
posted by bruv
It shouldn't have been displayed during euro 96 or indeed any match where it is England playing as it is a UNION flag not an ENGLISH flag. At least nowadays English football supporters do seem to have got out the habit and use either the cross of st George or the three lions. Bout time too.
My apologies, I meant the Cross of St George.
posted by bruv
It shouldn't have been displayed during euro 96 or indeed any match where it is England playing as it is a UNION flag not an ENGLISH flag. At least nowadays English football supporters do seem to have got out the habit and use either the cross of st George or the three lions. Bout time too.
My apologies, I meant the Cross of St George.
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oscar;1254134 wrote: mmmm a Couple of war vets? How about rows and rows of them in a BNP meeting? You'll have to take my word for that one.
you word is like my hairstyle :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
IF they were there i cant believe they realised what the NOTHINGBRITISH NP stands for
after all they went to war to stop the bnp's idol Hitler :rolleyes::rolleyes:
you word is like my hairstyle :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
IF they were there i cant believe they realised what the NOTHINGBRITISH NP stands for
after all they went to war to stop the bnp's idol Hitler :rolleyes::rolleyes: