pantoandy;1256073 wrote: hello and welcome to grumpy towers
well i watched question time as did many others on the FG and it seemed to me as the beeb put up an anti BNP audience and what the hell was bonnie greer doing on the programme an american and a playwrite what does she know about british politics ??
and although i am a staunch supporter of the BNP,s policies it seems to me that while nick griffin is in the driving seat the BNP will never be seen as an aceptable political party.
they have what it takes to deliver the goods especially the immigration issue
but they need to move away from the wrong people i.e being seen with the KKK
leader or gadaffi .
they need to open the BNP to everyone regardless of their skin colour as long as those who apply are british born citizens and the parents of say british born indians etc can also apply as long as their son or daughter is a member.
nick griffin seems to put his foot in what he says and does not seem confident in the BNP when cornered with awkward questions.
so perhaps for the good of the party nick griffin should stand down and allow someone to take his place who can make the party a respectable political party with serious views and able to run the country.
otherwise they will never shake off this right wing extremeist tag
Interesting question Andy. I have been on the forum today where a poll is running and the last time I looked, the result was 50% both ways.
This is my personal opinion of Griffin:
Most of the remarks made by him that come back to haunt him were made 25 years ago when the BNP were in their very early days. Back then, after leaving the NF, I do not believe that Griffin ever visualised himself In mainstream politics and in the heart of the European Parliment. I believe 25 years ago, much of his statements were more for the cause of effect and to get him publicity that the Party needed at the time. I dare anyone to tell me they were the same person with the same views as they were 25 to 30 years ago. We all say damn stupid things but as Griffin has Indeed come to the fore-front of modern Politics, all he has said has ramifications on him. He may Indeed have moderated his views of late merely to show an air of respectability to the electorate. Who Knows for sure?
30 years is on one hand a very brief period in the history of any Party but on the other hand, 30 years is a long time for a party to evolve. We all evolve as Parties do, society changes, politics change and what is the Issue's of the day change. Over 30 years, people in Parties come and go and new people daily shape how a Party moderates their Party. that's the thing to remember here... The modern day BNP is not the National Front of the 70's. The far right extremists have deserted the BNP and gone on to form splinter groups such as 'Combat 18' and the EDL who we see in our tabloids clashing with Muslims Extremists in the Street. Griffin knew that to be elected into the EU parliment, he had to break away and expel the extremists from the Party. For that he has done well, and as he quite rightly said on QT, the extreme Far right in this country despise him for selling out and selling them out.
More and more people are voting BNP, not because they hail griffin as some Champion of the cause, but because main stream parties refuse to address the Immigration problem that so many are concerned about.
Griffin is a good public speaker but he faced a lynch mob on QT and he did not come across at all well.
Simon Parry (who I have Met) the deputy Chairman of the BNP far outshines Griffin in leadership quality in my opinion. Griffin is also on record as saying that he will not sacrifice the Parties success should anyone shine through in the Party and be better equiped for the job. he has gone as record for saying that he would stand down if the Party depended on It. Having said that, people Identify the Party with Griffin... It's his baby. All the bad press on Griffin was already out there before the Euro elections and the tabloids launched an unprecedented smear campaign on him, yet him and Brons still got elected. Not all BNP votes are protest votes and people in the real world have to accept that. Most BNP Policies are good olde fashioned sense.. For example.. Returning the Education system back into the hands of the schools and not Whitehall Interference and Loony Left policy such as teaching our children Twitter in class.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
