I've actually read his book (nostradamus that is not al stewart)-most of it can be made to mean anything-but every now and then I wonder. This was written in the seventies
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gmc;1262061 wrote: I've actually read his book (nostradamus that is not al stewart)-most of it can be made to mean anything-but every now and then I wonder. This was written in the seventies
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Are you saying now, that his Quatrains may have had some relevance?
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Are you saying now, that his Quatrains may have had some relevance?
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gmc;1262061 wrote: I've actually read his book (nostradamus that is not al stewart)-most of it can be made to mean anything-but every now and then I wonder. This was written in the seventies
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oscar;1262064 wrote: One of favourite subjects. I wrote a thesis on Nostadamus when I was at college.
Are you saying now, that his Quatrains may have had some relevance?
No. There's only one or two that you can say might have been prescient-the one mentioning hister for instance, but predictions that are obvious only after the event are a bit useless. Besides if you believe things are pre-ordained what's the point? It was another thread about the invisible hand that got me thinking about it
Are you saying now, that his Quatrains may have had some relevance?
No. There's only one or two that you can say might have been prescient-the one mentioning hister for instance, but predictions that are obvious only after the event are a bit useless. Besides if you believe things are pre-ordained what's the point? It was another thread about the invisible hand that got me thinking about it
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gmc;1262108 wrote: No. There's only one or two that you can say might have been prescient-the one mentioning hister for instance, but predictions that are obvious only after the event are a bit useless. Besides if you believe things are pre-ordained what's the point? It was another thread about the invisible hand that got me thinking about it
It has always been difficult to Interpret him anyway. He wrote in Gaelic French and often in anagrams. Nearly all his work is just Interpretation and as you say, It's easy to fit the phrophecy once the event has taken place. There are still un-fullfilled phrophecies that he predicted for after 2000. What I found more Interesting about him was his astronomy. Even modern day Astrologists have compared his writings to the planetary paths today and they have been extremly accurate considering he was writing mid 16th century. Some historians claim he wrote in anagrams and was deliberately confusing because he feared persecution from the church.
It has always been difficult to Interpret him anyway. He wrote in Gaelic French and often in anagrams. Nearly all his work is just Interpretation and as you say, It's easy to fit the phrophecy once the event has taken place. There are still un-fullfilled phrophecies that he predicted for after 2000. What I found more Interesting about him was his astronomy. Even modern day Astrologists have compared his writings to the planetary paths today and they have been extremly accurate considering he was writing mid 16th century. Some historians claim he wrote in anagrams and was deliberately confusing because he feared persecution from the church.
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oscar;1262133 wrote: It has always been difficult to Interpret him anyway. He wrote in Gaelic French and often in anagrams. Nearly all his work is just Interpretation and as you say, It's easy to fit the phrophecy once the event has taken place. There are still un-fullfilled phrophecies that he predicted for after 2000. What I found more Interesting about him was his astronomy. Even modern day Astrologists have compared his writings to the planetary paths today and they have been extremly accurate considering he was writing mid 16th century. Some historians claim he wrote in anagrams and was deliberately confusing because he feared persecution from the church.
That scholars wrote in used anagrams and code because of fear of the inquisition makes a lot more sense than the theory there is some kind of arcane knowledge written in it all. It must have been a terrifying time to live if you were a free thinker of any kind.
That scholars wrote in used anagrams and code because of fear of the inquisition makes a lot more sense than the theory there is some kind of arcane knowledge written in it all. It must have been a terrifying time to live if you were a free thinker of any kind.
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gmc;1262156 wrote: That scholars wrote in used anagrams and code because of fear of the inquisition makes a lot more sense than the theory there is some kind of arcane knowledge written in it all. It must have been a terrifying time to live if you were a free thinker of any kind.
Yes, your right. He was pretty much freared in his time and eventually became a total recluse locking himself away in the dark. He would have been viewed as some kind of crazy warlock mid 16th century by the church. He was allegedly the only phrophet who apparently heard sound as well as vision of his predictions.
He not only named Hitler albiet as Histler. He spoke of three Anti-Christ. The first he named as Napoleon, the second, Hitler and the third to rise in the world of politics (interpretation) post Millenium. He named him as 'Rob Roy' but even Gealic French or anagram, I can't see who this would fit.
Yes, your right. He was pretty much freared in his time and eventually became a total recluse locking himself away in the dark. He would have been viewed as some kind of crazy warlock mid 16th century by the church. He was allegedly the only phrophet who apparently heard sound as well as vision of his predictions.
He not only named Hitler albiet as Histler. He spoke of three Anti-Christ. The first he named as Napoleon, the second, Hitler and the third to rise in the world of politics (interpretation) post Millenium. He named him as 'Rob Roy' but even Gealic French or anagram, I can't see who this would fit.
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I think anyone can write hundreds of stories and be correct on a few of them.
Ever so increased, the probability of being correct, by those written after his death!
Ever so increased, the probability of being correct, by those written after his death!
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K.Snyder;1262224 wrote: I think anyone can write hundreds of stories and be correct on a few of them.
Ever so increased, the probability of being correct, by those written after his death!
Then consider this Oh wise one.
The purpose of a visionary is to predict the future and warn future generations of all that Is bad. To say his prophecies that Indeed came true are too few to be considered, then what If those that the prophecies were aimed at, heeded his advice and ther-fore did not come to fruition? Surely, the lack of prophecies coming to reality shows he was Indeed successful?
Ever so increased, the probability of being correct, by those written after his death!
Then consider this Oh wise one.
The purpose of a visionary is to predict the future and warn future generations of all that Is bad. To say his prophecies that Indeed came true are too few to be considered, then what If those that the prophecies were aimed at, heeded his advice and ther-fore did not come to fruition? Surely, the lack of prophecies coming to reality shows he was Indeed successful?
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oscar;1262235 wrote: Then consider this Oh wise one.
The purpose of a visionary is to predict the future and warn future generations of all that Is bad. To say his prophecies that Indeed came true are too few to be considered, then what If those that the prophecies were aimed at, heeded his advice and ther-fore did not come to fruition? Surely, the lack of prophecies coming to reality shows he was Indeed successful?
I'm presuming your question is aligned by the idea that his "prophecies", heeded by others(or himself;) ), resulted in the most ethical of results.
In that, I would say would be extremely worthwhile, but only for those having been saved. I'd also take into consideration all of those heeding his "prophecies" to absolutely no avail at the same time completely wasting their life. You see if you were to have people worship the "prophecies" of Nostradamus that knew which one of his "prophecies" were to come to fruition then that would mean they were "prophets" themselves and didn't need Nostradamus, you see.
What you have is a far greater people being upset than those not. Not my idea of a good "prophet".
The purpose of a visionary is to predict the future and warn future generations of all that Is bad. To say his prophecies that Indeed came true are too few to be considered, then what If those that the prophecies were aimed at, heeded his advice and ther-fore did not come to fruition? Surely, the lack of prophecies coming to reality shows he was Indeed successful?
I'm presuming your question is aligned by the idea that his "prophecies", heeded by others(or himself;) ), resulted in the most ethical of results.
In that, I would say would be extremely worthwhile, but only for those having been saved. I'd also take into consideration all of those heeding his "prophecies" to absolutely no avail at the same time completely wasting their life. You see if you were to have people worship the "prophecies" of Nostradamus that knew which one of his "prophecies" were to come to fruition then that would mean they were "prophets" themselves and didn't need Nostradamus, you see.
What you have is a far greater people being upset than those not. Not my idea of a good "prophet".
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oscar;1262235 wrote: Then consider this Oh wise one.
The purpose of a visionary is to predict the future and warn future generations of all that Is bad. To say his prophecies that Indeed came true are too few to be considered, then what If those that the prophecies were aimed at, heeded his advice and ther-fore did not come to fruition? Surely, the lack of prophecies coming to reality shows he was Indeed successful?
No that's spurious argument. The whole thing about prophecies is a bit pointless. How could you have stopped Hitler assuming you had believed the prophecy? Let's say you killed him then the prophecy didn't come true so by your logic he was successful. But why didn't he prophesy what did happen instead since presumably he could see what people were going to do and whether they would be successful or not? So who was killed so hitler came to power instead
Anyone with half a brain could predict we would have war in the middle east over oil-but you didn't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We can predict what is going to happen with global warming but you don't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We know these things are going to happen but can't stop them it seems. But many like the idea of the end of the world and the second coming and so have a vested interest in not stopping it. So if their belief in predictions makes all out war more likely does that make the predictions true?
It's staggering how many predicted 911 after the event-hindsight is the best prophecy of all.
The purpose of a visionary is to predict the future and warn future generations of all that Is bad. To say his prophecies that Indeed came true are too few to be considered, then what If those that the prophecies were aimed at, heeded his advice and ther-fore did not come to fruition? Surely, the lack of prophecies coming to reality shows he was Indeed successful?
No that's spurious argument. The whole thing about prophecies is a bit pointless. How could you have stopped Hitler assuming you had believed the prophecy? Let's say you killed him then the prophecy didn't come true so by your logic he was successful. But why didn't he prophesy what did happen instead since presumably he could see what people were going to do and whether they would be successful or not? So who was killed so hitler came to power instead
Anyone with half a brain could predict we would have war in the middle east over oil-but you didn't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We can predict what is going to happen with global warming but you don't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We know these things are going to happen but can't stop them it seems. But many like the idea of the end of the world and the second coming and so have a vested interest in not stopping it. So if their belief in predictions makes all out war more likely does that make the predictions true?
It's staggering how many predicted 911 after the event-hindsight is the best prophecy of all.
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gmc;1262375 wrote: No that's spurious argument. The whole thing about prophecies is a bit pointless. How could you have stopped Hitler assuming you had believed the prophecy? Let's say you killed him then the prophecy didn't come true so by your logic he was successful. But why didn't he prophesy what did happen instead since presumably he could see what people were going to do and whether they would be successful or not? So who was killed so hitler came to power instead
Anyone with half a brain could predict we would have war in the middle east over oil-but you didn't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We can predict what is going to happen with global warming but you don't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We know these things are going to happen but can't stop them it seems. But many like the idea of the end of the world and the second coming and so have a vested interest in not stopping it. So if their belief in predictions makes all out war more likely does that make the predictions true?
It's staggering how many predicted 911 after the event-hindsight is the best prophecy of all.
Don't get me wrong.. When I studied Nostradamus, It was as a believer as well as a sceptic. Looking for evidence you may say. One part of our studies was to be given Quatrains transalted from Gaelic French into English for us to Interpret as we saw them. It was revealing how many varied versions of one Phrophecy came from the class. As for your question, how would you have stopped Hitler if the Phrophecy was heeded? It's never been as simple as that. If he wrote the words 'Hitler will gas millions of Jews in Concentration camps', then Intervention would have been possible, however, for the period of the 2nd WW in alignment with his astrology charts, he wrote hundreds of For-warning Quatrains that are alleged to cover the many Individual battles that took place.
His critics at the time, accussed him of re-writing the Book of Revelations but you have to take into account the terminology he used mid 16th Century i.e. he always refered to America as 'The New World'.
I agree that many fit 9/11 to some of his predictions however, I remember one quatrain that I read many Interpretations of many years before the event. Without consulting my books, he wrote 'And Great terror shall reign from the sky'. Pre 9/11 most believed this to be an asteroid. Yet, he also spoke of 'Silver fish carrying men and arms', due to areoplanes not around In his day. He also spoke of tall buildings with square windows..could have been his 16th Century vision of Skyscrapers. There was another that spoke of white heat that boiled fish in the oceans. This could be testing of nucleur weapons in the Pacific. One in particular, I associated with the rising of Nelson Mandela or Lech Waleasa only It could apply to both of them.
Weather you dismiss them totally, his astrological charts are acurate to this day and there is certain descriptions that make some sure that he certainly saw 'Something' weather they were Phrophecies or not.
Would wars over oil in the ME been predictable mid 1500's? I think not.
I don't belive he has ever written of the second coming mainly due to being Hebrew.
Anyone with half a brain could predict we would have war in the middle east over oil-but you didn't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We can predict what is going to happen with global warming but you don't need to be a soothsayer to do that. We know these things are going to happen but can't stop them it seems. But many like the idea of the end of the world and the second coming and so have a vested interest in not stopping it. So if their belief in predictions makes all out war more likely does that make the predictions true?
It's staggering how many predicted 911 after the event-hindsight is the best prophecy of all.
Don't get me wrong.. When I studied Nostradamus, It was as a believer as well as a sceptic. Looking for evidence you may say. One part of our studies was to be given Quatrains transalted from Gaelic French into English for us to Interpret as we saw them. It was revealing how many varied versions of one Phrophecy came from the class. As for your question, how would you have stopped Hitler if the Phrophecy was heeded? It's never been as simple as that. If he wrote the words 'Hitler will gas millions of Jews in Concentration camps', then Intervention would have been possible, however, for the period of the 2nd WW in alignment with his astrology charts, he wrote hundreds of For-warning Quatrains that are alleged to cover the many Individual battles that took place.
His critics at the time, accussed him of re-writing the Book of Revelations but you have to take into account the terminology he used mid 16th Century i.e. he always refered to America as 'The New World'.
I agree that many fit 9/11 to some of his predictions however, I remember one quatrain that I read many Interpretations of many years before the event. Without consulting my books, he wrote 'And Great terror shall reign from the sky'. Pre 9/11 most believed this to be an asteroid. Yet, he also spoke of 'Silver fish carrying men and arms', due to areoplanes not around In his day. He also spoke of tall buildings with square windows..could have been his 16th Century vision of Skyscrapers. There was another that spoke of white heat that boiled fish in the oceans. This could be testing of nucleur weapons in the Pacific. One in particular, I associated with the rising of Nelson Mandela or Lech Waleasa only It could apply to both of them.
Weather you dismiss them totally, his astrological charts are acurate to this day and there is certain descriptions that make some sure that he certainly saw 'Something' weather they were Phrophecies or not.
Would wars over oil in the ME been predictable mid 1500's? I think not.
I don't belive he has ever written of the second coming mainly due to being Hebrew.
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Would wars over oil in the ME been predictable mid 1500's? I think not.
Any less so than aeroplanes hitting towers, nuclear weapons hister becoming captain of greater germany. Come off it oscar.
I was generalising about prophecy rather than referring to nostradamus
Any less so than aeroplanes hitting towers, nuclear weapons hister becoming captain of greater germany. Come off it oscar.
I was generalising about prophecy rather than referring to nostradamus
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gmc;1262936 wrote: Any less so than aeroplanes hitting towers, nuclear weapons hister becoming captain of greater germany. Come off it oscar.
I was generalising about prophecy rather than referring to nostradamus
I find ie quite feaseable that a Prophet could see the rise of a man and see vision of 'siver fish' hitting 'tall buildings with windows' . It's quite possible he could have visualised those sights, even visualising sights of a battlefield, but how could he be expected to visualise the complex Issue's relating to those battles, ? Don't be a Rodney gmc.:p
I was generalising about prophecy rather than referring to nostradamus
I find ie quite feaseable that a Prophet could see the rise of a man and see vision of 'siver fish' hitting 'tall buildings with windows' . It's quite possible he could have visualised those sights, even visualising sights of a battlefield, but how could he be expected to visualise the complex Issue's relating to those battles, ? Don't be a Rodney gmc.:p
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oscar;1262988 wrote: I find ie quite feaseable that a Prophet could see the rise of a man and see vision of 'siver fish' hitting 'tall buildings with windows' . It's quite possible he could have visualised those sights, even visualising sights of a battlefield, but how could he be expected to visualise the complex Issue's relating to those battles, ? Don't be a Rodney gmc.:p
What's a "Rodney" out of interest exactly?
What's a "Rodney" out of interest exactly?
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K.Snyder;1263049 wrote: What's a "Rodney" out of interest exactly?
The same as plonker, in the sitcom only fools and horses delboy kept calling his brother rodney a plonker-the two have become interchangeable. When oscar is losing an argument she resorts to insults.
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I find ie quite feaseable that a Prophet could see the rise of a man and see vision of 'siver fish' hitting 'tall buildings with windows' . It's quite possible he could have visualised those sights, even visualising sights of a battlefield, but how could he be expected to visualise the complex Issue's relating to those battles, ? Don't be a Rodney gmc.
Your argument is ridiculous and applies to any of his so called predictions. If he was seeing something he would presumably describe what he saw. any real escalation of the middle east would end up going nuclear theoretically he would see that. I never before seen it suggested that any of his prophecies were a treatise on the politics surrounding any event.
The same as plonker, in the sitcom only fools and horses delboy kept calling his brother rodney a plonker-the two have become interchangeable. When oscar is losing an argument she resorts to insults.
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I find ie quite feaseable that a Prophet could see the rise of a man and see vision of 'siver fish' hitting 'tall buildings with windows' . It's quite possible he could have visualised those sights, even visualising sights of a battlefield, but how could he be expected to visualise the complex Issue's relating to those battles, ? Don't be a Rodney gmc.
Your argument is ridiculous and applies to any of his so called predictions. If he was seeing something he would presumably describe what he saw. any real escalation of the middle east would end up going nuclear theoretically he would see that. I never before seen it suggested that any of his prophecies were a treatise on the politics surrounding any event.
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gmc;1263070 wrote: The same as plonker, in the sitcom only fools and horses delboy kept calling his brother rodney a plonker-the two have become interchangeable. When oscar is losing an argument she resorts to insults.
. That may be your reference to a Rodney Auld Yin but It Is not the Rodney I was refering to when I called you one.
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This is a completely different kind of Rodney. :p
. That may be your reference to a Rodney Auld Yin but It Is not the Rodney I was refering to when I called you one.
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This is a completely different kind of Rodney. :p
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oscar;1264005 wrote: That may be your reference to a Rodney Auld Yin but It Is not the Rodney I was refering to when I called you one.
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This is a completely different kind of Rodney. :p
How apposite-is this your subconscious speaking do you think?
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transalted from Gaelic French into English
It's gallic not gaelic when you are referring to the french, it's been annoying me. transalted? :yh_rotfl
Your argument is still ridiculous enough of trying to change the subject.
Would you want to know your future anyway?
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This is a completely different kind of Rodney. :p
How apposite-is this your subconscious speaking do you think?
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transalted from Gaelic French into English
It's gallic not gaelic when you are referring to the french, it's been annoying me. transalted? :yh_rotfl
Your argument is still ridiculous enough of trying to change the subject.
Would you want to know your future anyway?
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gmc;1264078 wrote: How apposite-is this your subconscious speaking do you think?
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It's gallic not gaelic when you are referring to the french, it's been annoying me. transalted? :yh_rotfl
Your argument is still ridiculous enough of trying to change the subject.
Would you want to know your future anyway?
HA you may mock my fluffy sporran but quite frighteningly, I actually looked exactly liked the girl in that 'Strange Little Girl' video when I was also around the same age as her. Infact, when that video came out, my entire family began to call me 'Strange Little Girl' and they still bloody call me that to this day :-5 Call it a term of endearment.
I stand corrected then Oh Thistley one. GALLIC.
I do know my future anyway. I'm going to be elected as Prime Minister. :p:p
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It's gallic not gaelic when you are referring to the french, it's been annoying me. transalted? :yh_rotfl
Your argument is still ridiculous enough of trying to change the subject.
Would you want to know your future anyway?
HA you may mock my fluffy sporran but quite frighteningly, I actually looked exactly liked the girl in that 'Strange Little Girl' video when I was also around the same age as her. Infact, when that video came out, my entire family began to call me 'Strange Little Girl' and they still bloody call me that to this day :-5 Call it a term of endearment.
I stand corrected then Oh Thistley one. GALLIC.
I do know my future anyway. I'm going to be elected as Prime Minister. :p:p
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oscar;1264157 wrote: HA you may mock my fluffy sporran but quite frighteningly, I actually looked exactly liked the girl in that 'Strange Little Girl' video when I was also around the same age as her. Infact, when that video came out, my entire family began to call me 'Strange Little Girl' and they still bloody call me that to this day :-5 Call it a term of endearment.
I stand corrected then Oh Thistley one. GALLIC.
I do know my future anyway. I'm going to be elected as Prime Minister. :p:p
Trust you to bring gordie boy in to it.
Well you can't be any worse than that plonker brown i would vote for you. Mind you i would vote for a piece of wood in preference.
I stand corrected then Oh Thistley one. GALLIC.
I do know my future anyway. I'm going to be elected as Prime Minister. :p:p
Trust you to bring gordie boy in to it.
Well you can't be any worse than that plonker brown i would vote for you. Mind you i would vote for a piece of wood in preference.
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It is hard to make sense of his work, and therefore also easy to dismiss, but he has been studied for so long now there must me something to it.
His visions are no more or less interpretable than Revelations which was accepted as the final chapter of the Bible.
His visions are no more or less interpretable than Revelations which was accepted as the final chapter of the Bible.
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mikeinie;1264258 wrote: It is hard to make sense of his work, and therefore also easy to dismiss, but he has been studied for so long now there must me something to it.
His visions are no more or less interpretable than Revelations which was accepted as the final chapter of the Bible.
Good point Mike.
The devout believe Revelations so who Is to say the same for Nostaradamus? As you said, too many have studied him for too many decades for him to just be dismissed.
I think one of the reasons people tend to fit the event with the phrophecy after the event has taken place is due to the quatrains being so perplexing. It seems when there is a major event, everything slots into place.
His visions are no more or less interpretable than Revelations which was accepted as the final chapter of the Bible.
Good point Mike.
The devout believe Revelations so who Is to say the same for Nostaradamus? As you said, too many have studied him for too many decades for him to just be dismissed.
I think one of the reasons people tend to fit the event with the phrophecy after the event has taken place is due to the quatrains being so perplexing. It seems when there is a major event, everything slots into place.
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mikeinie;1264258 wrote: It is hard to make sense of his work, and therefore also easy to dismiss, but he has been studied for so long now there must me something to it.
His visions are no more or less interpretable than Revelations which was accepted as the final chapter of the Bible.
That;'s is just nonsense-Just because people want to believe in prophecies doesn't mean they are actually real. Revelations makes sense as a primitive people describing natural events and catastrophes they are seeing but don't understand.
A prophecy that no one can make sense of is a bit pointless. A claim to an understanding of arcane knowledge is a delusion you have to be fairly gullible to fall for.
His visions are no more or less interpretable than Revelations which was accepted as the final chapter of the Bible.
That;'s is just nonsense-Just because people want to believe in prophecies doesn't mean they are actually real. Revelations makes sense as a primitive people describing natural events and catastrophes they are seeing but don't understand.
A prophecy that no one can make sense of is a bit pointless. A claim to an understanding of arcane knowledge is a delusion you have to be fairly gullible to fall for.