Ok, WTF is going ON around here lately?????

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:49 pm

Is it a full moon?? Are the planets aligned in just such a way?? Have I done something to deserve having all this weird crap going on?? I've always said karma's a bitch, maybe I ticked her off sometime and don't know it???

So I'm sitting here on FG, having my coffee, minding my own business, when I get a knock on the door. Or should I say a pounding. I'm not expecting anyone, and I'm home alone, so I put my revolver in the waistband of my jeans at my back and go to the door. (Yes, I always carry my gun to the door when I'm not expecting anyone and I'm alone.) I peek through the peephole and see a man I don't know on the other side. He knocks again, loudly and rings the bell. Well, I'm not opening the door, I don't know this person. He proceeds to pound on my door a few more times and ring my bell again. Then he goes around the side of my house, looks there, goes to my car, and peers into the windows. My resume is sitting on the front seat and I see him trying to read it. Then the son-of-a-bitch goes to my MAILBOX across the street, takes out my mail and shuffles through it. Now I'm on the phone to the cops. I tell them what's going on, give a description of the guy and his car, and tell them which way he went. The cop on the phone tells me they'll send a car out. I call Bullet and tell him what's going on and 3 minutes later, I have a brother's son at my door to sit with me while we wait for the cops. We waited half an hour. They finally got here and I told him the whole story again. He tells me there's not much they can do, and I really didn't expect them to do much, but damn! Could they have got there a TAD quicker? Bullet makes one phone call from 15 miles away and has people there for me in 3 minutes, the Clinton Township PD is a mile and a half away and it took them 35 minutes to get to my house. From now on, when something goes on around here, I'm calling a brother....the hell with the cops. No offense, LC. :-5

orangesox1 · Post by **orangesox1** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:59 pm

Wow, I wonder who he was and why he would check your mail, shakes you up though. I had an intruder once and since we arn't allowed to own guns in OZ I sleep with my chainsaw in my bedroom, I think thats why people think I'm weird. I can also use it and would as I have to protect myself and family.

Hope you find out who he is and what he was doing.

:guitarist thats me with my chain saw.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:11 pm

Man, BR, was your heart pounding?

Something similar happened to me many years ago, only this guy had a

KEY to my front door! Well, he thought he did anyway. After much fear

on my part (and eventually on HIS when I, too, showed up at the door

with a weapon!) I finally got the story... idiot had the wrong address

and nearly got his freakin' head blown off.

But your story sounds REALLY weird. Wonder if he'll come back? I can't

imagine a legitimate reason for rifling through your mail... thought that

was a federal offense?

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:17 pm

Yes it IS a federal offense. I didn't really expect the cops to enforce it, but it was really odd. Anyone here on legitimate business wouldn't have gone through the mailbox, and would have left a card, or something, I'd think. I wasn't that nervous, I had a locked door between us and a gun in my hand. If he'd somehow gotten in, he wouldn't have got very far. It was pretty damn frustrating to sit there for so long waiting for the boys in blue, though.

I told the cop after he was done taking the report, "If I'd been getting murdered, my body would be in several pieces and long gone, by now!!"

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:18 pm

orangesox1 wrote: Hope you find out who he is and what he was doing.
I hope he does come back, when Bullet's home. :wah:

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:22 pm

BR,

My guess is he was looking for someone else. He checked your mail to make sure who ever it was wasn't living in you house. Once he check your mail he moved on. Now I wonder who he was looking for and why did he have the wrong address. Could he be looking for Bullet??? :-3 Glad you had that gun handy..

Glad you didn't say anything through the door either... He seemed to be on a mission. :-2

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:37 pm

Well, I for one am glad you are okay.

Maybe next time you should shout through the door and ask his business. At least you'll get a response and his intention. Maybe he had the wrong address? That seems to happen a lot. If he does try to break in at that point, at least you will have your tool to dis-assemble the threat.

Something that I do is leave the house via another door and ask if I may help them from their flank. This usually takes them by surprise and gives you the opportunity to assess what's going on.

Let us know the outcome!

orangesox1 · Post by **orangesox1** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:38 pm

CARLA wrote: BR,

My guess is he was looking for someone else. He checked your mail to make sure who ever it was wasn't living in you house. Once he check your mail he moved on. Now I wonder who he was looking for and why did he have the wrong address. Could he be looking for Bullet??? :-3 Glad you had that gun handy..

Glad you didn't say anything through the door either... He seemed to be on a mission. :-2

Thats sound like it could be right, but to be pounding on the door also gives the impression he was angry. Well I'm sure if he was looking for Bullet, Bullet won't be hiding from him.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:39 pm

CARLA wrote: BR,

My guess is he was looking for someone else. He checked your mail to make sure who ever it was wasn't living in you house. Once he check your mail he moved on. Now I wonder who he was looking for and why did he have the wrong address. Could he be looking for Bullet??? :-3 Glad you had that gun handy..

Glad you didn't say anything through the door either... He seemed to be on a mission. :-2
I was wondering if he didn't have the wrong house too, Carla. It takes some HUGE balls to go into someone's mailbox, though! This guy was average sized, and looked like what we used to call "preppies" when I was in high school. Polo shirt, dress shorts, loafers, 5'10" and weighed maybe a buck 70. If he was there with an issue with Bullet, he should have brought some friends. He was NOT a biker-type so I am not thinking a rival club, but I can't imagine WHY he was there!

Yes, he definitely seemed on a mission. If I ever learn why he was beating on my door, I will be sure to clue everyone in!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:45 pm

Tombstone wrote: Well, I for one am glad you are okay.

Maybe next time you should shout through the door and ask his business. At least you'll get a response and his intention. Maybe he had the wrong address? That seems to happen a lot. If he does try to break in at that point, at least you will have your tool to dis-assemble the threat.

Something that I do is leave the house via another door and ask if I may help them from their flank. This usually takes them by surprise and gives you the opportunity to assess what's going on.

Let us know the outcome!
Thanks, T. I thought about asking his business, but not having the slightest idea who he was or why he was there, I thought it best not to let him know anyone was home. Running in the circle we do, it's usually best not to take any chances.

I can just imagine you coming up behind a stranger!! The guy turns around and sees you, he's likely to lose control of his bladder! From the one picture I've seen, you're a rather intimidating size!

I live in an upper flat, and the only other way out is via a rope ladder out the window.

orangesox1 wrote:

if he was looking Bullet, Bullet won't be hiding from him...

Ahh, you've met the man? :yh_rotfl

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:52 pm

Yeah, Tombstone with splittin' maul in hand!!

Bad Guy Has Heart Attack... Film at 11!!!

:yh_rotfl

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:55 pm

BabyRider wrote: Thanks, T. I thought about asking his business, but not having the slightest idea who he was or why he was there, I thought it best not to let him know anyone was home. Running in the circle we do, it's usually best not to take any chances.

I can just imagine you coming up behind a stranger!! The guy turns around and sees you, he's likely to lose control of his bladder! From the one picture I've seen, you're a rather intimidating size!

I live in an upper flat, and the only other way out is via a rope ladder out the window.

Then rope ladder it is! :p Just kidding. Sounds like you did the right thing. After I wrote that I realized that I would be pretty unhappy if my wife tried to confront an angry acting visitor.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:58 pm

valerie wrote: Yeah, Tombstone with splittin' maul in hand!!

Bad Guy Has Heart Attack... Film at 11!!!

:yh_rotfl

Who me? I'm a lovable guy!

Group hugs for all angry agitated intruders! (Northern Idaho style.)

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:11 pm

Tombstone wrote: Who me? I'm a lovable guy!

Group hugs for all angry agitated intruders! (Northern Idaho style.)
Oh sure, group hugs...coming from you, that's a BEAR hug!!!

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:00 am

Bloodyhell luv!! i'm glad you're ok.

And i'm extra glad you have Bullet and your brothers there for you.

I live alone so i know how you must have felt, take care:yh_hugs

cars · Post by **cars** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:58 am

Hey BR that's terrible! Just a thought, it may be worthwhile to call back your local PD & blast them for that irresponsable response time! Like you said, if it were a murder crazy lunitic, they would have gotten there in plenty of time to call the coroner. If there is a next time, call Bullet first, but then call PD & frantically tell them an "intruder" is braking in!!! See if that doesn't speed up their response!!!

Best of luck, & keep that piece handy!! :wah:

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:42 am

WOW!

I can't contribute much more than what others have said BR.

1) darn good thing you did not have to use your gun.

2) darn good thing you don't open your door to just anyone.

3) dam shame the local PD is so slow, makes one wonder if a crime has to be underway in order for the fire to be lit under their butts.

Many years ago when I took womens defense the police told us as single persons (yes males too) if you do not know the person at your door you are under no obligation to open your door. If you have a barkie kind of dog, let them bark like mad this is going to scare off anyone. And the other thing was if the person becomes persistant, get out of your house and call the police.

What I do, I let the dog bark, I don't open my door and I grab my cell phone immediately. If I have to flee at least I can make a call quickly. I do have a metal baseball bat and 4 iron golf club handy but unfortunately I could be out muscled.

I hope this person never returns. Just seems too creepy.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:34 pm

minks wrote: 1) darn good thing you did not have to use your gun.

I never want to have to resort to that!

Thanks for all the concern, gang. I'm actually hoping he comes back today, because the brothers will be called as soon as he shows up this time. They are close by and will find out just what business he has here. Much more effective than the cops!

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:43 pm

I can see where this would get you rattled, I dont even like it when my family knocks on my door. Get yourself a sign to hang on the door or window...ATTACK DOG or SHOOTS FIRST ASKS QUESTIONS LATER or THIS PROPERTY PROTECTED BY 357 MAGNUM

Psyche can be an effective tool. Glad your good baby.

pina · Post by **pina** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:48 pm

Glad to hear youÃ‚´re ok after your ordeal BR, it can be a bit scary when youre on your own. keep that gun handy.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:30 pm

On the sign idea... some places you can get in trouble with signs like

that! Especially the 'Beware of Dog" ones... proves you knew ahead of

time you had a dangerous dog... if it bites someone.

I had a neighbor one time who had "Trespassers Will Be Shot Survivors

Will Be Prosecuted"... effective I guess... he was the guy that sold the

gun Sarah Jane Moore used to try and kill President Ford!

I liked the one I had up in a back window (could easily see it from the

fence a lot of scumbags tried to jump!) a long time ago... human figure

target with only one miss in 17 shots... make 'em think a little!

;)

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:42 pm

DANG BR - I'm glad you were cool, calm, collected and had a gun. I know what you mean about the motorcycle world though. My daughter's Godfather was in it - the most caring man you'd ever want to know. There was an incident at my house one night - I called him first then the police. He and a friend were there before the police. The police looked at me and asked if I was going to let them handle it. John told them he'd give them 48 hours to "handle" it.

It sounds like someone was looking for a wife who forgot her way home...........

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:29 pm

I had a guy do this once...he was trying to serve me with a summons for some unpaid bills, that's all. They have this attitude that they are cops, and they are used to people hiding from them.

He was banging on the door really hard, so I opened it quickly, and yelled as loud as I could right in his face (and believe me, between the Air Force and the classroom that's damn loud) 'What the Hell do you want?!!"

After he collected his wits, he gave me the summons. I told him, "with hundreds of thousands in medical bills, you think I'm worried that I haven't paid a $50 bill for a catalog order? Where do you get off being so aggressive to poor people that are down on their luck?"

He said, "it's just my job."

So I gave him the line from John Cougar, "Saying it's your job old son. still don't make it right. If you want I'll say a prayer for your soul tonight."

Wolverine · Post by **Wolverine** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:36 pm

those were some mighty fine panties you was wearing.

and there ain't nuthin finer than a fine-a$$ nakid woman with a gun.

damn! got goosebumps just thinking about it again.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:48 pm

Jeez Jives - I forgot about the med stuff. I got served for $17.37 after I had paid them over $2,600.00 dollars in monthly payments - the bastardos served me for this money that I had sent 2 weeks before....................go "F"ing figure. You pay every month and they don't think you're going to pay some paultry amount of money on time the next month? I was rejoicing I had paid it when they pulled that crap on me.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:37 pm

UPDATE!!!!

So. The bonehead came back today. PONUDPOUNDPOUND on my door and immediately with the door bell. Yet again, I'm home alone, Bullet works afternoons. I went to the window, saw a familiar car and called Bullet, telling him the guy was back and to get someone here. He calls me right back and says, "Keep the guy there, Shotgun is on his way." So, with Bullet on the phone, I went back to the window, and hollered down to him: "HEY!! Who the F are you???" He looks up at my window and says, "Is Matt here?" I said, "Again, who are you and what do you want?" He says "I need to see Matthew." I said, "That's really nice and all, but you ain't told me sh!t, and until you do, kiss my a$$." Apparently, the guy had papers to serve Bullet with, his screwy ex-wife got her panties in a twist and is suing him. The process server says, "If you come on down, I can have you sign for them." I'm thinkin' yeah, RIGHT. I told him I wouldn't be signing a damn thing, and he proceeds to ask me what Matt drives. I very patiently and politely explained to him that I wasn't required to tell him doo-doo. All this takes about 90 seconds, and here comes Shotgun. I can't hear the exchange between them, but I see Shotgun with his finger in the guys chest.

After the process server leaves, I let Shotgun in. He told the guy that he knew the server had been here the day before and went through the mail. "If you come around here again, nosing through people's stuff, you're gonna get busted up." The weenie starts whining that he's just trying to serve papers. Shotgun says, "That's fine, you can serve them tomorrow when Bullet's home, just be sure it do it nicely, and don't go pawing through people's mail." The guy actually tried to deny he'd done that!!! Shotgun said, "The girl was home when you came by yesterday and watched you do it, and a whole slew of neighbors saw you do it and told me!" The guy slunk back to his car, papers undelivered. Now when he shows up in the morning to try again, Bullet will be here, and so will the cops, because I'm pressing charges for him going through my mail, if it's possible.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:41 pm

OH YEAH - WOO HOO - going through the mail is against the law. You do it BR. This process server will lose his license........

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:02 pm

Say, Br, any chance we can get a pic of that Shotgun?!?!?!?

Tell him I said HE ROCKS!!!

:yh_rotfl

mominiowa · Post by **mominiowa** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:18 pm

Holy crap......I wanna front row in the morning..Do you mind if i come over and sleep on your couch......er maybe with Bullets friend......the one that looks like him....and er....then maybe I will be able to report all the findings - I want to be a reporter ya know........:p

Anyway- Honey I am glad thats what it was...we had a guy come crazy like that in front of my babysitting kids when I had my day care. I was like - Buddy get the HELL off my property unless your gonna tell me what is up...He said..Where is the car? I said what car? he said - your white Ford Mustang....I said-- Mr... I drive Chevy's not Fords...and he said- Your lying..I am here to reposes your car!......Ohhhhh yeah the neighbors white car...I said- well your to late cuz that kid left for college last weekend to California! Heeee heee....Then proceeded to tell the kid next door he owed me cuz I at least got him off his back for a week.....but then they just went to his work I think and took it anyways.....LOL Take care and TAKE pictures too.......LOL

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:18 pm

valerie wrote: Say, Br, any chance we can get a pic of that Shotgun?!?!?!?

Actually, I started a thread a while back when I was seriously bored with a picture of some of the Angels. Lemme see if I can dig it up...

ETA for Clinton Township police: 35 minutes

ETA for a brother: 90 seconds

Being in a biker family.....priceless.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:31 pm

Bottom row, 3rd one in from the left....that's Shotgun.

Attached files

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:42 pm

I remember seeing that pic... just didn't know which one he was!

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:44 pm

valerie wrote: Say, Br, any chance we can get a pic of that Shotgun?!?!?!?

Tell him I said HE ROCKS!!!

:yh_rotfl

You need a date Val??? :wah:

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:55 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: You need a date Val??? :wah:

SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just got a soft spot in my heart for bikers... and cowboys... er, um,

and college students and and...

:o

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:03 pm

valerie wrote: SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just got a soft spot in my heart for bikers... and cowboys... er, um,

and college students and and...

:o

You should have met our John - you can't have BTS - and my SIL is taken.....:wah:

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:03 pm

flopstock wrote: ...dirty old lady, that's what i'm becoming...

Ain't it a blast??!?! :yh_bigsmi

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:03 am

Ha! I KNEW it! Damn process servers! Why can't they be polite? It's not as if it's any big deal that someone's not home. If they're not, just come back tomorrow. I'd seriously like to see that guy lose his license. If I'd been home when he was going through my mail, I'd have come unglued on him.