Any-one in the UK will be bracing themselves for even more snow right now. The extreme weather warnings are on TV all the time and when Mr O went to Sainsbury's, you'd think war had broken out by the frenzied panic buying occuring.
We needed a fair bit of salt to make the lane safe for the Oldies because it's private land and the council are not obliged to grit it.
Sainsbury and Tesco were completely sold out of salt by 8 pm tonight so Mr O went to the corner shop that we rarely use due to extortionate pricing. We are furious to find the corner shop did Indeed have plenty of salt but was charging £3 for a small container. We are a small village and many of the Oldies have to rely on this local shop. I am disgusted.
Doe's anyone know If I can report them to Trading Standards?
As It happens, I have an abundence of cat litter which is a good substitute that I'll offer to my elderly neighbours just Incase they need to give In to this blackmail.
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That is disgusting but we have that here too. When the general store burnt down the petrol station put all it's produce up, sometimes by 200%
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fuzzywuzzy;1279436 wrote: That is disgusting but we have that here too. When the general store burnt down the petrol station put all it's produce up, sometimes by 200%
Isn't there always some-one who wants to make money at the misery of others.
In a supermarket, a small tub of salt can be bought for as low as 19 pence.
Isn't there always some-one who wants to make money at the misery of others.
In a supermarket, a small tub of salt can be bought for as low as 19 pence.
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oscar;1279434 wrote: Any-one in the UK will be bracing themselves for even more snow right now. The extreme weather warnings are on TV all the time and when Mr O went to Sainsbury's, you'd think war had broken out by the frenzied panic buying occuring.
We needed a fair bit of salt to make the lane safe for the Oldies because it's private land and the council are not obliged to grit it.
Sainsbury and Tesco were completely sold out of salt by 8 pm tonight so Mr O went to the corner shop that we rarely use due to extortionate pricing. We are furious to find the corner shop did Indeed have plenty of salt but was charging £3 for a small container. We are a small village and many of the Oldies have to rely on this local shop. I am disgusted.
Doe's anyone know If I can report them to Trading Standards?
As It happens, I have an abundence of cat litter which is a good substitute that I'll offer to my elderly neighbours just Incase they need to give In to this blackmail.
You know where not to shop in future now. Incidentally earth from the garden works just as well to get a grip and costs less. No you can't report them he is not breaking any law as retailers are free to charge what they like. Retail price maintenance went out decades ago.
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We call that capatilism. It works.
It's not capitalism though it's just greed, the two are not synonymous. Don't they teach you guys anything at school?
We needed a fair bit of salt to make the lane safe for the Oldies because it's private land and the council are not obliged to grit it.
Sainsbury and Tesco were completely sold out of salt by 8 pm tonight so Mr O went to the corner shop that we rarely use due to extortionate pricing. We are furious to find the corner shop did Indeed have plenty of salt but was charging £3 for a small container. We are a small village and many of the Oldies have to rely on this local shop. I am disgusted.
Doe's anyone know If I can report them to Trading Standards?
As It happens, I have an abundence of cat litter which is a good substitute that I'll offer to my elderly neighbours just Incase they need to give In to this blackmail.
You know where not to shop in future now. Incidentally earth from the garden works just as well to get a grip and costs less. No you can't report them he is not breaking any law as retailers are free to charge what they like. Retail price maintenance went out decades ago.
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We call that capatilism. It works.
It's not capitalism though it's just greed, the two are not synonymous. Don't they teach you guys anything at school?
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Nomad;1279493 wrote: We call that capatilism. It works.
I would have thought it was more like profiteering ? But it will do them no good, because people have fairly good memories for things like that !
I would have thought it was more like profiteering ? But it will do them no good, because people have fairly good memories for things like that !
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gmc;1279569 wrote: It's not capitalism though it's just greed, the two are not synonymous. Don't they teach you guys anything at school?
Well, the higher the demand and the lower the supply, the higher the price. That's supply and demand. The same reason diamonds are expensive. They are all just rocks.
Well, the higher the demand and the lower the supply, the higher the price. That's supply and demand. The same reason diamonds are expensive. They are all just rocks.
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yaaarrrgg;1279666 wrote: Well, the higher the demand and the lower the supply, the higher the price. That's supply and demand. The same reason diamonds are expensive. They are all just rocks.Another thing people don't understand about retailing is buying power. the larger companies pay less for the salt and their overhead may be lower per square foot due to the fact that they lease so many places and get package deals.
The proper way to tell is check out the business owners home and that of the corporate large retailers homes and decide where you want to shop.
Personally, I just look to save money unless the small shop owner is a friend. Its unfortunate that thats what its come to but thats the reality of the situation. I need to worry about my own financial condition.
The proper way to tell is check out the business owners home and that of the corporate large retailers homes and decide where you want to shop.
Personally, I just look to save money unless the small shop owner is a friend. Its unfortunate that thats what its come to but thats the reality of the situation. I need to worry about my own financial condition.
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yaaarrrgg;1279666 wrote: Well, the higher the demand and the lower the supply, the higher the price. That's supply and demand. The same reason diamonds are expensive. They are all just rocks.
There's a difference between high prices because of demand and high prices because someone is taking advantage of a situation, 16p up to £3 is a rip off. It's table salt she's talking about. There isn't a lack of supply for that in another week the shelves will be full again.
There's a difference between high prices because of demand and high prices because someone is taking advantage of a situation, 16p up to £3 is a rip off. It's table salt she's talking about. There isn't a lack of supply for that in another week the shelves will be full again.
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gmc;1279689 wrote: There's a difference between high prices because of demand and high prices because someone is taking advantage of a situation, 16p up to £3 is a rip off. It's table salt she's talking about. There isn't a lack of supply for that in another week the shelves will be full again.You don't understand the concepts of capitalism, gmc, don't they teach you anything in school over there?:)
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oscar;1279434 wrote:
As It happens, I have an abundence of cat litter which is a good substitute that I'll offer to my elderly neighbours just In case they need to give In to this blackmail.
I work part time at a large super market, they ran out of salt and sand to grit the car park, walkways and somebody used cat litter as a substitute.
The customers trod it all through the shop, ruining the foyer carpet, it even got traipsed to the offices at rear of shop, many customers complained about it stuck to their shoes and marking their clothes. It was like crushed up digestive biscuits or something.
I spent two hours hosing the forecourt down with a stiff broom to clear it up.
Now I don't know what brand it was, but test your cat litter before scattering it everywhere, you may regret it.
As It happens, I have an abundence of cat litter which is a good substitute that I'll offer to my elderly neighbours just In case they need to give In to this blackmail.
I work part time at a large super market, they ran out of salt and sand to grit the car park, walkways and somebody used cat litter as a substitute.
The customers trod it all through the shop, ruining the foyer carpet, it even got traipsed to the offices at rear of shop, many customers complained about it stuck to their shoes and marking their clothes. It was like crushed up digestive biscuits or something.
I spent two hours hosing the forecourt down with a stiff broom to clear it up.
Now I don't know what brand it was, but test your cat litter before scattering it everywhere, you may regret it.
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Bruv;1279740 wrote: I work part time at a large super market, they ran out of salt and sand to grit the car park, walkways and somebody used cat litter as a substitute.
The customers trod it all through the shop, ruining the foyer carpet, it even got traipsed to the offices at rear of shop, many customers complained about it stuck to their shoes and marking their clothes. It was like crushed up digestive biscuits or something.
I spent two hours hosing the forecourt down with a stiff broom to clear it up.
Now I don't know what brand it was, but test your cat litter before scattering it everywhere, you may regret it.
Thanks for the advice Bruv and you are spot on. The clay based cat litter will give you the problems that you gave in your post. I think It's called 'Fullers earth'. I never use this In the house as after one small wee, It turns Into mud. The best is the cheap gritty ones.
As It happens, I was complaining long Into the night about this shop and my pal said she would try the Turkish Cash and Carry where they get their food for the shops. Bingo.... 24 Packs of salt.... £1.60. :driving:
Gill.... You are also spot on... shoppers have long memories and they will suffer as a result. I remember when they were culling livestock during the foot and mouth crisis and they put up the price of their milk.
Nomad.... This Is not Capitalism... It is pure greed out of others misery. They probably wouldn't do It if we lived in a town with alternative stores for the elderly, but we are a tiny village with only one small Tesco Express that sold out of salt early.
Ahso.... Are you sure you didn't leave some letters out of your user name?
The customers trod it all through the shop, ruining the foyer carpet, it even got traipsed to the offices at rear of shop, many customers complained about it stuck to their shoes and marking their clothes. It was like crushed up digestive biscuits or something.
I spent two hours hosing the forecourt down with a stiff broom to clear it up.
Now I don't know what brand it was, but test your cat litter before scattering it everywhere, you may regret it.
Thanks for the advice Bruv and you are spot on. The clay based cat litter will give you the problems that you gave in your post. I think It's called 'Fullers earth'. I never use this In the house as after one small wee, It turns Into mud. The best is the cheap gritty ones.
As It happens, I was complaining long Into the night about this shop and my pal said she would try the Turkish Cash and Carry where they get their food for the shops. Bingo.... 24 Packs of salt.... £1.60. :driving:
Gill.... You are also spot on... shoppers have long memories and they will suffer as a result. I remember when they were culling livestock during the foot and mouth crisis and they put up the price of their milk.
Nomad.... This Is not Capitalism... It is pure greed out of others misery. They probably wouldn't do It if we lived in a town with alternative stores for the elderly, but we are a tiny village with only one small Tesco Express that sold out of salt early.
Ahso.... Are you sure you didn't leave some letters out of your user name?
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Not capitalism? It's a free market. Setting price controls would make it *not* a free market.
This story comes to mind:
Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing."
—Antony Flew , Thinking About Thinking (1975)
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Hint: substitute "Scottsman" with "Capitalist"
This story comes to mind:
Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing."
—Antony Flew , Thinking About Thinking (1975)
No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hint: substitute "Scottsman" with "Capitalist"
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Ahso!;1279693 wrote: You don't understand the concepts of capitalism, gmc, don't they teach you anything in school over there?:)
Oh yes-not least because the ideas of Adam Smith is one of scotlands major exports. Trust the americans to find capitalism too complicated and just pick out the bits they think they understand and ignore all the bits that smack of socialism:sneaky:
Oh yes-not least because the ideas of Adam Smith is one of scotlands major exports. Trust the americans to find capitalism too complicated and just pick out the bits they think they understand and ignore all the bits that smack of socialism:sneaky:
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gmc;1279762 wrote: Oh yes-not least because the ideas of Adam Smith is one of scotlands major exports. Trust the americans to find capitalism too complicated and just pick out the bits they think they understand and ignore all the bits that smack of socialism:sneaky: It's also because he's American that he can not see the wider Implications here :sneaky:
The most likely scenario would be, the elderly who can not drive to a larger store and Is dependent on the Corner shop, may not be able to afford to pay £3 for salt. This could mean they decide to go without and risk breaking limbs or worse on their paths.
The most likely scenario would be, the elderly who can not drive to a larger store and Is dependent on the Corner shop, may not be able to afford to pay £3 for salt. This could mean they decide to go without and risk breaking limbs or worse on their paths.
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yaaarrrgg;1279761 wrote: Not capitalism? It's a free market. Setting price controls would make it *not* a free market.
This story comes to mind:
No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hint: substitute "Scottsman" with "Capitalist"
Who's talking about price controls? Capitalism and socialism have the same intellectual roots. hint-do some wider reading on the subject. Capitalism doesn't work if you allow monopolies or cartels to exist or where sheer greed is allowed to prosper-you need to regulate against that happening, , Laissez faire capitalism and monetarist economic policy are why we are in such a mess with our economy and we will be paying the price for years to come and it won't be economists and their insane theories that you don't need industry that sort things out. As your fellow americans join the long queues of unemployed human resources maybe the more caring socialistic aspects of capitalism might have more appeal.
What makes you think aberdonians are scotsmen? None of the rest in the country can understand a word they say we need a translator just to have a normal conversation, put two whiskies in one and you may as well give up.
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This story comes to mind:
No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hint: substitute "Scottsman" with "Capitalist"
Who's talking about price controls? Capitalism and socialism have the same intellectual roots. hint-do some wider reading on the subject.
Capitalism doesn't work if you allow monopolies or cartels to exist or where sheer greed is allowed to prosper-you need to regulate against that happening, , Laissez faire capitalism and monetarist economic policy are why we are in such a mess with our economy and we will be paying the price for years to come and it won't be economists and their insane theories that you don't need industry that sort things out. As your fellow americans join the long queues of unemployed human resources maybe the more caring socialistic aspects of capitalism might have more appeal.What makes you think aberdonians are scotsmen? None of the rest in the country can understand a word they say we need a translator just to have a normal conversation, put two whiskies in one and you may as well give up.
YouTube - Learn Scottish Words Part 1
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gmc;1279920 wrote: Who's talking about price controls? Capitalism and socialism have the same intellectual roots. hint-do some wider reading on the subject. Capitalism doesn't work if you allow monopolies or cartels to exist or where sheer greed is allowed to prosper-you need to regulate against that happening, , Laissez faire capitalism and monetarist economic policy are why we are in such a mess with our economy and we will be paying the price for years to come and it won't be economists and their insane theories that you don't need industry that sort things out. As your fellow americans join the long queues of unemployed human resources maybe the more caring socialistic aspects of capitalism might have more appeal.
What makes you think aberdonians are scotsmen? None of the rest in the country can understand a word they say we need a translator just to have a normal conversation, put two whiskies in one and you may as well give up.
YouTube - Learn Scottish Words Part 1I think you may haved misunderstood the point of the link yaaarrrgg provided. Its an example for philosophical reasoning, it really has nothing to do with being Scottish.
For the rest, Absolute free market would have the consumer's buying decisions as the controls. But we've learned that that is a false concept because humans are easily swayed by clever advertising. I agree that regulations need to exist due to what I stated in my previous sentence, but that is not true "free market" capitalism.
Capitalism doesn't work if you allow monopolies or cartels to exist or where sheer greed is allowed to prosper-you need to regulate against that happening, , Laissez faire capitalism and monetarist economic policy are why we are in such a mess with our economy and we will be paying the price for years to come and it won't be economists and their insane theories that you don't need industry that sort things out. As your fellow americans join the long queues of unemployed human resources maybe the more caring socialistic aspects of capitalism might have more appeal.What makes you think aberdonians are scotsmen? None of the rest in the country can understand a word they say we need a translator just to have a normal conversation, put two whiskies in one and you may as well give up.
YouTube - Learn Scottish Words Part 1I think you may haved misunderstood the point of the link yaaarrrgg provided. Its an example for philosophical reasoning, it really has nothing to do with being Scottish.
For the rest, Absolute free market would have the consumer's buying decisions as the controls. But we've learned that that is a false concept because humans are easily swayed by clever advertising. I agree that regulations need to exist due to what I stated in my previous sentence, but that is not true "free market" capitalism.
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Ahso!;1279930 wrote: I think you may haved misunderstood the point of the link yaaarrrgg provided. Its an example for philosophical reasoning, it really has nothing to do with being Scottish.
For the rest, Absolute free market would have the consumer's buying decisions as the controls. But we've learned that that is a false concept because humans are easily swayed by clever advertising. I agree that regulations need to exist due to what I stated in my previous sentence, but that is not true "free market" capitalism.
Ho I didn't I was merely continuing in the same line of levity yaaarrrgg introduced-at least i assumed it was meant to be humourous if it was intended to be anti scottish somehow it was pretty feeble. It wasn't particularly germane so I ignored.
free market or laissez-faire capitalism is but one train or reasoning that stems from the wealth of nations. Arguably it's not the best one for society as a whole and always fails when applied. On the other hand too much interference is bad as well.
For the rest, Absolute free market would have the consumer's buying decisions as the controls. But we've learned that that is a false concept because humans are easily swayed by clever advertising. I agree that regulations need to exist due to what I stated in my previous sentence, but that is not true "free market" capitalism.
Ho I didn't I was merely continuing in the same line of levity yaaarrrgg introduced-at least i assumed it was meant to be humourous if it was intended to be anti scottish somehow it was pretty feeble. It wasn't particularly germane so I ignored.
free market or laissez-faire capitalism is but one train or reasoning that stems from the wealth of nations. Arguably it's not the best one for society as a whole and always fails when applied. On the other hand too much interference is bad as well.
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gmc;1280242 wrote: Ho I didn't I was merely continuing in the same line of levity yaaarrrgg introduced-at least i assumed it was meant to be humourous if it was intended to be anti scottish somehow it was pretty feeble. It wasn't particularly germane so I ignored.
free market or laissez-faire capitalism is but one train or reasoning that stems from the wealth of nations. Arguably it's not the best one for society as a whole and always fails when applied. On the other hand too much interference is bad as well.
No anti-Scottish sentiment was intended.
It's more a commentary on the reasoning:
Smith: there are no greedy capitalists.
Jones: What about this salt-seller?
Smith: He's not a *true* capitalist.
IMO laissez-faire capitalism is capitalism in the most purified state. You have property rights, and the freedom to trade those rights by terms set by the buyer and seller.
If that's not correct, then what is/are the most purified form/s of capitalism, in your view?
I agree it must to be regulated (by a democracy) for it to be tolerable. In America, we are often gouged on prices. That's why our capitalistic health care system costs twice as much. Table salt is one thing, but the value of salt for a driveway is higher, because someone's health and safety depends on it. Just like our medicine. It might cost a dollar to make, but it could be sold for 100 times as much in the U.S.
In all fairness though, any ideology pushed to an extreme will likely be equally disastrous.
free market or laissez-faire capitalism is but one train or reasoning that stems from the wealth of nations. Arguably it's not the best one for society as a whole and always fails when applied. On the other hand too much interference is bad as well.
No anti-Scottish sentiment was intended.
It's more a commentary on the reasoning:
Smith: there are no greedy capitalists.
Jones: What about this salt-seller?
Smith: He's not a *true* capitalist.
IMO laissez-faire capitalism is capitalism in the most purified state. You have property rights, and the freedom to trade those rights by terms set by the buyer and seller.
If that's not correct, then what is/are the most purified form/s of capitalism, in your view?
I agree it must to be regulated (by a democracy) for it to be tolerable. In America, we are often gouged on prices. That's why our capitalistic health care system costs twice as much. Table salt is one thing, but the value of salt for a driveway is higher, because someone's health and safety depends on it. Just like our medicine. It might cost a dollar to make, but it could be sold for 100 times as much in the U.S.
In all fairness though, any ideology pushed to an extreme will likely be equally disastrous.
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yaaarrrgg;1280331 wrote: No anti-Scottish sentiment was intended.
It's more a commentary on the reasoning:
Smith: there are no greedy capitalists.
Jones: What about this salt-seller?
Smith: He's not a *true* capitalist.
IMO laissez-faire capitalism is capitalism in the most purified state. You have property rights, and the freedom to trade those rights by terms set by the buyer and seller.
If that's not correct, then what is/are the most purified form/s of capitalism, in your view?
I agree it must to be regulated (by a democracy) for it to be tolerable. In America, we are often gouged on prices. That's why our capitalistic health care system costs twice as much. Table salt is one thing, but the value of salt for a driveway is higher, because someone's health and safety depends on it. Just like our medicine. It might cost a dollar to make, but it could be sold for 100 times as much in the U.S.
In all fairness though, any ideology pushed to an extreme will likely be equally disastrous.
The dialogue was more along the lines of.
British economic theorist:The salt cellar is a greedy chancing B_)(JHHD
American economic theorist: he's just being a good capitalist, greed and capitalism are synonymous.
British economic theorist: Bollocks. Just because you think that doesn't mean it's right, you never get things right do you.:sneaky:
If that's not correct, then what is/are the most purified form/s of capitalism, in your view?
Capitalism, socialism and liberalism have the same intellectual roots personally I wouldn't get hung up on ideology and pick the best bits from each and use what works. Being in favour of a capitalist economy doesn't mean you ignore the need for some kind of regulation-on the other hand govt interference for political ends can be devastating, you need a balance. Having a well educated healthy workforce is a necessity so why ot free universal education and healthcare-some things are beyond being able to price. Monetarists put a price on everything but couldn't see that value and price are not always the same.
It's not a religion after all, half the problems we have in the world today are because people won't take on board what works and worry about getting it "right" in terms of whatever particular brand of political theory they have been taught to believe in and refuse to think beyond the label looking instead to be told what to think instead of thinking for themselves.
It's more a commentary on the reasoning:
Smith: there are no greedy capitalists.
Jones: What about this salt-seller?
Smith: He's not a *true* capitalist.
IMO laissez-faire capitalism is capitalism in the most purified state. You have property rights, and the freedom to trade those rights by terms set by the buyer and seller.
If that's not correct, then what is/are the most purified form/s of capitalism, in your view?
I agree it must to be regulated (by a democracy) for it to be tolerable. In America, we are often gouged on prices. That's why our capitalistic health care system costs twice as much. Table salt is one thing, but the value of salt for a driveway is higher, because someone's health and safety depends on it. Just like our medicine. It might cost a dollar to make, but it could be sold for 100 times as much in the U.S.
In all fairness though, any ideology pushed to an extreme will likely be equally disastrous.
The dialogue was more along the lines of.
British economic theorist:The salt cellar is a greedy chancing B_)(JHHD
American economic theorist: he's just being a good capitalist, greed and capitalism are synonymous.
British economic theorist: Bollocks. Just because you think that doesn't mean it's right, you never get things right do you.:sneaky:
If that's not correct, then what is/are the most purified form/s of capitalism, in your view?
Capitalism, socialism and liberalism have the same intellectual roots personally I wouldn't get hung up on ideology and pick the best bits from each and use what works. Being in favour of a capitalist economy doesn't mean you ignore the need for some kind of regulation-on the other hand govt interference for political ends can be devastating, you need a balance. Having a well educated healthy workforce is a necessity so why ot free universal education and healthcare-some things are beyond being able to price. Monetarists put a price on everything but couldn't see that value and price are not always the same.
It's not a religion after all, half the problems we have in the world today are because people won't take on board what works and worry about getting it "right" in terms of whatever particular brand of political theory they have been taught to believe in and refuse to think beyond the label looking instead to be told what to think instead of thinking for themselves.
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gmc;1280378 wrote: Being in favour of a capitalist economy doesn't mean you ignore the need for some kind of regulation-on the other hand govt interference for political ends can be devastating, you need a balance. Having a well educated healthy workforce is a necessity so why ot free universal education and healthcare-some things are beyond being able to price. Monetarists put a price on everything but couldn't see that value and price are not always the same.
It's not a religion after all, half the problems we have in the world today are because people won't take on board what works and worry about getting it "right" in terms of whatever particular brand of political theory they have been taught to believe in and refuse to think beyond the label looking instead to be told what to think instead of thinking for themselves.
I think we agree, but might be using different language. I'd prefer the hybrid approach as well.
America has a hybrid economic system, though it mostly affords the benefits of socialism to the wealthy (TARP bailouts, etc). It's mostly pure crapitalism for everyone else. The salt is a little taste of what your health and safety cost on a free market. What is the value of a person's life? That's what's being sold at the higher price, not the salt.
It's not a religion after all, half the problems we have in the world today are because people won't take on board what works and worry about getting it "right" in terms of whatever particular brand of political theory they have been taught to believe in and refuse to think beyond the label looking instead to be told what to think instead of thinking for themselves.
I think we agree, but might be using different language. I'd prefer the hybrid approach as well.
America has a hybrid economic system, though it mostly affords the benefits of socialism to the wealthy (TARP bailouts, etc). It's mostly pure crapitalism for everyone else. The salt is a little taste of what your health and safety cost on a free market. What is the value of a person's life? That's what's being sold at the higher price, not the salt.