God Hates Haiti?

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:07 am

At least Pat Robertson thinks so. Can you believe that some people would have actually voted for this guy for president.

Pat Robertson Haiti Comments Spark Uproar - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:28 am

Lon;1282205 wrote: At least Pat Robertson thinks so. Can you believe that some people would have actually voted for this guy for president.

Pat Robertson Haiti Comments Spark Uproar - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

I don't know how it is over there but, were it here, that would be his political career over never to be resurrected.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:40 am

Bryn Mawr;1282208 wrote: I don't know how it is over there but, were it here, that would be his political career over never to be resurrected.

Unfortunately Bryn there are more than a few who will cross their arms, raise their head, wink and say "told you so"

I feel sorry for Pat Robertson.

I think my God would want that.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:01 am

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Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:55 pm

Bryn Mawr;1282208 wrote: I don't know how it is over there but, were it here, that would be his political career over never to be resurrected.

Pat Robertson never has had a political career, he's a "TELEVANGELIST" with a huge Christian following.

Pat Robertson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:06 pm

I think a good bi'tch slap would be appropriate here.

Indonasian tsunami was blamed on the people because they weren't religious enough . Our fires was blamed on us because we weren't religious enough. Now the earthquake is because they aren't religious enough.

Hmmmm yep I think a good slapping is in order. Maybe haiti being the first black country to gain independence from their slave masters grates at him a bit. He seems to have a lot of hatey for haiti.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:20 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1282275 wrote: I think a good bi'tch slap would be appropriate here.

Indonasian tsunami was blamed on the people because they weren't religious enough . Our fires was blamed on us because we weren't religious enough. Now the earthquake is because they aren't religious enough.

Hmmmm yep I think a good slapping is in order. Maybe haiti being the first black country to gain independence from their slave masters grates at him a bit. He seems to have a lot of hatey for haiti.

I sent him an e mail saying Id pray for his mind.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:18 pm

Sort of maniac that gives religion a bad name.

Apart from the name they do their hating in, is there any significant difference between him and a Muslim fundamentalist?

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:44 pm

Clodhopper;1282309 wrote: Sort of maniac that gives religion a bad name.

Apart from the name they do their hating in, is there any significant difference between him and a Muslim fundamentalist?

Or any kind of extreme fundamentalist for that matter. They have all created god in their own small minded, mean, hateful image and then given their invention an agenda in keeping with their own warped, self dominated, worldview.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:25 pm

Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:43 pm

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

My family had a foster child there through an aid program for 12 years. She learned to read and write and sew. She learned about hygiene. Her village was helped through the program to get clean water. Gifts over the years included a goat, some chickens, cloth. In the time Mucianie was part of our extended family, I learnt a lot about Haiti and we did our small bit to try and make it less of what you call a "s**t hole".

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:17 am

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

I know, I have to admit that I kind of thought the same myself at one point, but despite that, it is a country and a home and in times like this we need to reserve judgment and help those who need it. Maybe it will be a better place for it after.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:00 am

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

Charming!! What do you suggest then? Bomb the place and just do away with it instead :rolleyes:

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:07 am

Lon;1282260 wrote: Pat Robertson never has had a political career, he's a "TELEVANGELIST" with a huge Christian following.

Pat Robertson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did he not run for President as an independent a couple of times?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:10 am

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

Because it's their home and all they have by way of living space?

Empathy is not one of your strong points I take it

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:12 am

Bryn Mawr;1282432 wrote: Did he not run for President as an independent a couple of times?

Found it :-

He unsuccessfully campaigned to become the Republican Party's nominee in the 1988 presidential election.[3] As a result of his seeking political office, he no longer serves in an official role for any church

My memory is not what it once was but that's how he's known here.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:09 am

Bryn Mawr;1282433 wrote: Because it's their home and all they have by way of living space?

Empathy is not one of your strong points I take it

I suppose it would be in our best interest to rebuild the place. If we didn't, they would all try to come to the USA since none of the other countries would take them. How many would the UK or Australia take?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:31 am

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.I'm wondering what that has to do with the thread topic. Are you saying that that is why God hates Haiti, or why Pat Robertson hates Haiti?

It seems Robertson's hate is due to his assessment that the Haitians gave themselves over to the devil long ago.

Are you agreeing with Robertson, Hoppy, and offering up proof?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:39 am

hoppy;1282460 wrote: I suppose it would be in our best interest to rebuild the place. If we didn't, they would all try to come to the USA since none of the other countries would take them. How many would the UK or Australia take?Would it be okay with you if we were to just allow the Catholic Haitians into the U.S.?

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:09 am

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

As an american I would have thought you would find it inspirational-an oppressed colony that fights it's way to freedom from it's colonial master and goes on to found an independent republic and then manages to fend off the two major superpowers of the time and another once great superpower that try to invade and enslave them again and all without any help from anyone just sheer bloody mindedness- it's a heritage anyone would be proud of.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:28 am

gmc;1282474 wrote: As an american I would have thought you would find it inspirational-an oppressed colony that fights it's way to freedom from it's colonial master and goes on to found an independent republic and then manages to fend off the two major superpowers of the time and another once great superpower that try to invade and enslave them again and all without any help from anyone just sheer bloody mindedness- it's a heritage anyone would be proud of.

Well said, and very true

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:34 am

AussiePam;1282347 wrote: Or any kind of extreme fundamentalist for that matter. They have all created god in their own small minded, mean, hateful image and then given their invention an agenda in keeping with their own warped, self dominated, worldview.

Nice way to put it, Pam. Their God is an evil God. Now, where did they get that idea?

Pat Robertson wrote: On his Christian Broadcasting Network show yesterday, Rev. Pat Robertson said that the nation of Haiti has been devastated by a large earthquake because its people "made a pact with the devil."

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," Robertson said. "They were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'"

"True story," he continued. "And the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' Ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."

Can you believe a grown, intelligent man would actually believe this BS? The words "destestable and despicable" come to my mind for him. Pat'd better really hope that God is truly forgiving or else God is going to be REALLY PISSED OFF at him!:yh_wait

(And Pat's going to be seeing him soon!):yh_loser

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:57 am

Saint_;1282481 wrote:

(And Pat's going to be seeing him soon!):yh_loserPat's problem is he thinks he sees him now!:)

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:01 pm

So, how much have you donated to Haiti relief so far? Besides lip service I mean?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:03 pm

hoppy;1282497 wrote: So, how much have you donated to Haiti relief so far? Besides lip service I mean?You first since you raise the issue.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:18 pm

hoppy;1282497 wrote: So, how much have you donated to Haiti relief so far? Besides lip service I mean?

Not a dime. I'm donating to "My Family" disaster relief fund. (My wife's been seriously ill for years and the medical bills take ALL of my money.) Sorry Haitians...family first, strangers second.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:37 pm

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

Because people live there?

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:41 pm

hoppy;1282460 wrote: I suppose it would be in our best interest to rebuild the place. If we didn't, they would all try to come to the USA since none of the other countries would take them. How many would the UK or Australia take?

Thats using your noggin.

Wouldnt want a bunch of peckerhead negroes getting our white girls pregnant.

Then again if they did we could bring us back some good old fashioned lynchings.

YEE HAA !

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:56 pm

Nomad;1282516 wrote: Thats using your noggin.

Wouldnt want a bunch of peckerhead negroes getting our white girls pregnant.

Then again if they did we could bring us back some good old fashioned lynchings.

YEE HAA !

Well, so happens there is already a lot of Haitians here, aids and all. Let some other country take some.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:58 pm

hoppy;1282520 wrote: Well, so happens there is already a lot of Haitians here, aids and all. Let some other country take some.

"White AIDS" is preferrable, a little easier to stomach?

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:24 pm

hoppy;1282497 wrote: So, how much have you donated to Haiti relief so far? Besides lip service I mean?

None of your business, but I have donated.

These are human beings, probably much less twisted and hatefilled than you are. Their physical hurts are not less than yours. Their grievings for their dead loved ones are not less than yours would be. Their despair in the loss of their homes is as real as yours would be. Their need for food and clean water and medical treatment is no different from how yours would be in such a disaster. They are worthy of sympathy and respect and whatever help we can offer.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:29 pm

AussiePam;1282527 wrote: None of your business, but I have donated.

These are human beings, probably much less twisted and hatefilled than you are. Their physical hurts are not less than yours. Their grievings for their dead loved ones are not less than yours would be. Their despair in the loss of their homes is as real as yours would be. Their need for food and clean water and medical treatment is no different from how yours would be in such a disaster. They are worthy of sympathy and respect and whatever help we can offer.

:yh_clap

Imladris · Post by **Imladris** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:36 pm

hoppy;1282360 wrote: Read up on Haiti. Then you might ask yourself why would anyone want to rebuild that s**t hole of a country.

So we just turn our backs? Seriously????

AussiePam;1282362 wrote: My family had a foster child there through an aid program for 12 years. She learned to read and write and sew. She learned about hygiene. Her village was helped through the program to get clean water. Gifts over the years included a goat, some chickens, cloth. In the time Mucianie was part of our extended family, I learnt a lot about Haiti and we did our small bit to try and make it less of what you call a "s**t hole".

I used to sponsor a girl over there too, sadly my income dropped and I couldn't any more, my prayers are with her and her family and I hope they are still alive.

hoppy;1282460 wrote: I suppose it would be in our best interest to rebuild the place. If we didn't, they would all try to come to the USA since none of the other countries would take them. How many would the UK or Australia take?

I'm sure we'd take plenty, we usually do help those in need. And that's on a very crowded small island - you've got plenty of space, give them some room and a basic shelter then encourage them to fend for themselves - they'll be quite good at that once they've dug their way out from under their collapsed homes, buried their dead, scavanged for food and water, lived with no basic sanitation and just about survived the inevitable disease that follows when living amongst rotting corpses.

Shame on you for your lack of compassion.

AussiePam;1282527 wrote: None of your business, but I have donated.

These are human beings, probably much less twisted and hatefilled than you are. Their physical hurts are not less than yours. Their grievings for their dead loved ones are not less than yours would be. Their despair in the loss of their homes is as real as yours would be. Their need for food and clean water and medical treatment is no different from how yours would be in such a disaster. They are worthy of sympathy and respect and whatever help we can offer.

:yh_worshp as usual Pam says it better than me.

Rapunzel · Post by **Rapunzel** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:13 pm

For Hoppy:

Earthquake in Haiti - The Big Picture - Boston.com

Haiti 48 hours later - The Big Picture - Boston.com

:-1

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:38 pm

What am I supposed to see that I didn't see in every newscast every day since it happened? I'm not against helping them. I'm against blindly throwing tons of money at a situation unless we can be sure it gets where it'll do the most good. The liberal 'crat's president has been pretty free with money we don't have already. I wonder if the big "O" will go to Haiti and get his photo taken handing out some food boxes. It would be a great opportunity for him to score some much needed publicity.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:02 pm

hoppy;1282601 wrote: What am I supposed to see that I didn't see in every newscast every day since it happened? I'm not against helping them. I'm against blindly throwing tons of money at a situation unless we can be sure it gets where it'll do the most good. The liberal 'crat's president has been pretty free with money we don't have already. I wonder if the big "O" will go to Haiti and get his photo taken handing out some food boxes. It would be a great opportunity for him to score some much needed publicity.

A couple of hours ago you said who would want to put any effort into a shizhole like that.

This isnt about money or politics. Its about people that need help right now. Theyre hurting in the worst way. Thats all there is to it.

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Nomad;1282221 wrote:
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Omni_Skittles · Post by **Omni_Skittles** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:25 am

why do i care to get into christian television broadcasting???

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:10 am

What a load of cynical, fatherless people there are on Forum Garden! You disgust me ! It stands out who has compassion on this thread, regardless of the political situation in Haiti. Thank goodness for those few people who have compassion.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:56 am

One thing that surprised me was to see a report that some christian missionaries were among the very first to flee after the earthquake struck. You'd have thought they would stay to give as much help as they can if only helping dig out survivors with their bare hands or giving comfort to the bereaved. No doubt we will shortly be hearing about some people miraculously are found alive in the rubble.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:16 am

gmc;1282664 wrote: One thing that surprised me was to see a report that some christian missionaries were among the very first to flee after the earthquake struck. You'd have thought they would stay to give as much help as they can if only helping dig out survivors with their bare hands or giving comfort to the bereaved. No doubt we will shortly be hearing about some people miraculously are found alive in the rubble.

They just found a 16 month old baby alive in the rubble....That is a miracle indeed:-6

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:17 am

Where I live, each year the Haitian migrant workers come to pick apples in the many orchards we have here. They are the nicest and most polite men I have had the pleasure to meet. They mind their own business and never once have caused the town any problems. I learned today from one of the largest orchard owners that many of his workers have perished and it makes me so sad :-1 Some of these workers have been picking apples here for over 10 years and I'm sure I know some that are no longer going to come here again. I will miss their smiling faces and they always would wave to me as I drove by the orchards. These are people just like you and I who deserve respect and help in their time of need.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:19 am

Kathy Ellen;1282668 wrote: They just found a 16 month old baby alive in the rubble....That is a miracle indeed:-6

Saw that- she's also an orphan-some miracle that is.

Jazzy · Post by **Jazzy** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:21 am

Kathy Ellen;1282668 wrote: They just found a 16 month old baby alive in the rubble....That is a miracle indeed:-6

That is indeed a miracle and thank you for letting us know.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:22 am

gmc;1282670 wrote: Saw that- she's also an orphan-some miracle that is.

I can only hope she finds someone to love and care for her.:-6

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:38 am

Kathy Ellen;1282674 wrote: I can only hope she finds someone to love and care for her.:-6

Her parents are killed in an act of god but her surviving is a miracle?

Sorry Kathy-don't mean to offend you but I just don't buy in to this god moves in mysterious ways crap.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:24 am

Get out the tissues. It's boo-hoo time.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:14 am

hoppy;1282689 wrote: Get out the tissues. It's boo-hoo time.

Typical pathetic bloke.

hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:23 am

This guy has the right idea.

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