persecution of cigarette companies
persecution of cigarette companies
the latest attempt by the British government to damage cigarette companies is to ban branding on packets.Instead the name would have to be in plain text. Considering the amount of tax the government get from tobacco they are biting the hand that feeds them !
persecution of cigarette companies
I thought the accumulated cost to the National Health Service of treating tobacco-related harm exceeded tobacco tax revenue by a considerable margin. Am I mistaken?
Quite why cocaine and heroin are criminalized, when they cause so much less medical damage than tobacco, frankly baffles me. Or are you one of those who disputes the link between smoking and fatal illnesses?
Quite why cocaine and heroin are criminalized, when they cause so much less medical damage than tobacco, frankly baffles me. Or are you one of those who disputes the link between smoking and fatal illnesses?
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persecution of cigarette companies
What about alcohol and fatal illnesses ? Also the anti-social aspect of drunken yobs, and people who stagger home, drunk, and beat up their wives. The only anti-social thing about smoking is the smoke in a confined space, but that has been sorted now, and quite right too. I don't think that people who smoke get aggressive and violent because of their smoking habit, but people who drink, often do, and it causes the NHS so much expense that could be avoided. Mind you I would not like to calculate whether the smoker costs the NHS more, or the drinker does. I would think that that would be very difficult to get an accurate comparison.
However, both are anti-social.
As for the drugs aspect, I believe that it is getting worse. More and more young people are becoming dependant on these illegal drugs, and they steal and use violence to finance their addiction. This also causes a strain on the NHS, which can be avoided. Violence to other people, who have to go to hospital, and of course their own over-indulgence also stretches the NHS resources.
Let's face it, the world is slowly destroying itself innit?
I do think, though, that this latest crazy idea from the government to ban the present markings on cigarette packets, and replace them with basic text, is ludicrous. Can you imagine the same being implemented with regard to alcoholic drinks ? It would be just as stupid, wouldn't it?
:rolleyes:
However, both are anti-social.
As for the drugs aspect, I believe that it is getting worse. More and more young people are becoming dependant on these illegal drugs, and they steal and use violence to finance their addiction. This also causes a strain on the NHS, which can be avoided. Violence to other people, who have to go to hospital, and of course their own over-indulgence also stretches the NHS resources.
Let's face it, the world is slowly destroying itself innit?
I do think, though, that this latest crazy idea from the government to ban the present markings on cigarette packets, and replace them with basic text, is ludicrous. Can you imagine the same being implemented with regard to alcoholic drinks ? It would be just as stupid, wouldn't it?
:rolleyes:
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persecution of cigarette companies
G#Gill;1287303 wrote: Let's face it, the world is slowly destroying itself innit?
I'm not sure you can generalize as far as "the world" goes. Alcohol consumption is prohibited by law in Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen. I'm not sure whether you'd want to follow their lead or not. or would you rather alcoholic drinks were freely available on sale in those countries?
Direct treatment costs (2004) for tobacco-related illness in the NHS was £1,700 million. The major loss of revenue caused by those 106,000 deaths a year is loss of income tax for the remainder of their working lives of those who die earlier than 65. I could take a shot at estimating that but it easily exceeds tobacco revenue through taxation, which runs close to £10 billion a year at the moment.
I'm not sure you can generalize as far as "the world" goes. Alcohol consumption is prohibited by law in Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen. I'm not sure whether you'd want to follow their lead or not. or would you rather alcoholic drinks were freely available on sale in those countries?
Direct treatment costs (2004) for tobacco-related illness in the NHS was £1,700 million. The major loss of revenue caused by those 106,000 deaths a year is loss of income tax for the remainder of their working lives of those who die earlier than 65. I could take a shot at estimating that but it easily exceeds tobacco revenue through taxation, which runs close to £10 billion a year at the moment.
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persecution of cigarette companies
spot;1287298 wrote: I thought the accumulated cost to the National Health Service of treating tobacco-related harm exceeded tobacco tax revenue by a considerable margin. Am I mistaken?
You are correct.
I have read data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) in the United States, and Canadian and Ontario government statistics that show that more money is paid out treating tobacco related illnesses than what those governments make on the excise tax on the product.
I'm certain the situation would be similar in the UK.
You are correct.
I have read data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) in the United States, and Canadian and Ontario government statistics that show that more money is paid out treating tobacco related illnesses than what those governments make on the excise tax on the product.
I'm certain the situation would be similar in the UK.
persecution of cigarette companies
It's not my intention to promote or condone smoking I simply think that the government shouldn't treat a legitimate industry this way. If they are really concerned about health then why not ban cigarettes altogether ?. Could the loss of votes as well as revenue be the reason they won't.