This is so sad.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:09 pm

What was in these kids heads when this happened ? Neither could have guessed the consequences. What's happening to our kids? This is not an evil child versus another evil child ..these are just two kids .......this could happen to any of our children.

Thousands mourn stabbed schoolboy - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

this child was walking and playing in this school at the beginning of the week

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:08 pm

it is sad Fuzzy.:-1

unfortunately this happens here roughly every 2 weeks.

stabbings and shootings going on at quite a few schools here.:-5

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:28 pm

We had a spate of them a few years back but it had to do with gangs and so forth ..just don'there about them anymore, and then this happens.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:00 pm

Almost two thousand parents students teachers and other mourners lined the street as a guard of honour Elliot

Funeral for stabbed schoolboy - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

I'm just so saddened and I'm saddened for the boy who's been charged with murder.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:57 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1291496 wrote: We had a spate of them a few years back but it had to do with gangs and so forth ..just don'there about them anymore, and then this happens.

ours aren't gang related, most here have knifes and guns even though guns are illegal in Canada, you get whatever you want here.

I was once asked if I wanted a gun and that was at a place of work.

moonpie · Post by **moonpie** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:29 pm

I do not understand. It is so hard to imagine where their heads are at. What are their parent's teaching them? I cannot beleive when I was their age ever thinking something like that. It is not normal. If I was one of their parents, I would just go and dig a hole and crawl inside to think I raised something like that.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:28 am

but that is what's so sad about it all ...they are just two everyday normal kids and they get into a scruff at school ...it happens. kids fight. One just happened to have a knife (through reasons we will never know)....and now look?

These kids are in an age group of "Hollywood reasoning".........I guess I look at my kids, who one day will get into a scrap at school. Brett, is one to break up fights at school ...he's always the mature, good guy. I hope the other kid on that day doesn't have a weapon.

Amythest · Post by **Amythest** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:14 am

Odie;1291508 wrote: ours aren't gang related, most here have knifes and guns even though guns are illegal in Canada, you get whatever you want here.

I was once asked if I wanted a gun and that was at a place of work.

:(:(

I don't even like to think back about my sons experiences with bullies in school when he was around 8-13.

He got hit in the back of the head with a chunk of wood once, and his chair pulled out from him, split his head open on the desk behind, and needed stitches. Those were the worst instances. Notice these things were from BEHIND.

He WAS the peace keeper, walked away and it was damn lucky nobody had a knife or gun.

Most of his tormenters either got expelled, dropped out or began their petty criminal careers in highschool.

Luckilly my son didn't take the same route. But i still worry when there's all this focus on weapons.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:00 am

Amythest;1291924 wrote:

:(

I don't even like to think back about my sons experiences with bullies in school when he was around 8-13.

He got hit in the back of the head with a chunk of wood once, and his chair pulled out from him, split his head open on the desk behind, and needed stitches. Those were the worst instances. Notice these things were from BEHIND.

He WAS the peace keeper, walked away and it was damn lucky nobody had a knife or gun.

Most of his tormenters either got expelled, dropped out or began their petty criminal careers in highschool.

Luckilly my son didn't take the same route. But i still worry when there's all this focus on weapons.

omg........how cruel kids are.:-5

thank the lord your son survived these horrendous attacks.

everyone despises bullies, my son went through similar crap.:-5

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:25 am

i was reading one of the related stories. schools are less violent now. HUH????

Amythest · Post by **Amythest** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:40 pm

southern yankee;1291978 wrote: i was reading one of the related stories. schools are less violent now. HUH????

I think it depends on a lot of factors. Location, demographic, social stigmas and prejudices.

For me the bullying began when we moved to another community. I was warned by everyone it was a Bully haven and they were right. I mentioned the phsyical harm but the emotional harm was worse.Teasing, tormenting, isolating. It was a good thing my son had friends (2) from our old neighborhood and he still has them today.

We moved again and things improved because the community was better.

Where i live there is a no tolerance guideline but that lumps in victims too. Say if a child tried to stick up for themsef they get punished also. It either stops completely or escalates.

I don't think violence is escalating per se, just the use of weapons has more lethal consequences. Just because my son was bullied doesn't mean i think it is like a growing cancer.

I don't look at recent stats because i don't want to be reminded of the past and it's been over for a while now.

I remember when i was in highschool a friend died at a party from getting hit on the head with a beer Bottle. Over an argument about which beer was better!!!

It's sad that the death of a schoolmate gets everyone thinking, amps up the compassion, and brings people together in a way. It shouldn't take a tradgedy like that to prevent bullying.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:38 pm

Amythest;1292001 wrote: I think it depends on a lot of factors. Location, demographic, social stigmas and prejudices.

For me the bullying began when we moved to another community. I was warned by everyone it was a Bully haven and they were right. I mentioned the phsyical harm but the emotional harm was worse.Teasing, tormenting, isolating. It was a good thing my son had friends (2) from our old neighborhood and he still has them today.

We moved again and things improved because the community was better.

Where i live there is a no tolerance guideline but that lumps in victims too. Say if a child tried to stick up for themsef they get punished also. It either stops completely or escalates.

I don't think violence is escalating per se, just the use of weapons has more lethal consequences. Just because my son was bullied doesn't mean i think it is like a growing cancer.

I don't look at recent stats because i don't want to be reminded of the past and it's been over for a while now.

I remember when i was in highschool a friend died at a party from getting hit on the head with a beer Bottle. Over an argument about which beer was better!!!

It's sad that the death of a schoolmate gets everyone thinking, amps up the compassion, and brings people together in a way. It shouldn't take a tradgedy like that to prevent bullying. maybe you are right. but not where i grew up or went school. sooo sad what has happen to a place or school you once knew in your teen years. now to be gang filled, also drive by shootings. i have been told, by school mates who remained in the area. i know nothing stays the same. but so many times it is for the worse, instead of for the better.