It seems petty but...

Post by **Betty Boop** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:46 am

My brother is a recorder for a local conservation trust. Today whilst out walking with him my daughter found a caterpillar, my brother must have found it of interest because he put it in a pot with some leaves and let my daughter bring it home to pupate. My daughter then took it to show her friends as soon as we got in, minutes later I'm confronted by an upset child because one of the other children took it away from her and threw it in the bin saying it was dead!!

It's only a caterpillar at the end of the day, but what gives this other child the right to throw it away! :-5 Do parents just not teach children respect for other peoples belongings, no matter how small or insignificant it seems to them, obviously not.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:54 am

Betty Boop;1302689 wrote: My brother is a recorder for a local conservation trust. Today whilst out walking with him my daughter found a caterpillar, my brother must have found it of interest because he put it in a pot with some leaves and let my daughter bring it home to pupate. My daughter then took it to show her friends as soon as we got in, minutes later I'm confronted by an upset child because one of the other children took it away from her and threw it in the bin saying it was dead!!

It's only a caterpillar at the end of the day, but what gives this other child the right to throw it away! :-5 Do parents just not teach children respect for other peoples belongings, no matter how small or insignificant it seems to them, obviously not.

omg Betty, that is just so sad for a kid to do such a horrible thing.

kids must learn its not theirs to touch!:-5:-5

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:54 am

Did you attempt a rescue? Don't tke the other kids word for it that it was dead!

Post by **Betty Boop** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:59 am

flopstock;1302695 wrote: Did you attempt a rescue? Don't tke the other kids word for it that it was dead!

It wasn't dead, it was about to pupate. I've looked in the bin but it's brim full of stinking rubbish and it can't be seen at the moment.

theia · Post by **theia** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:22 am

Betty Boop;1302689 wrote: My brother is a recorder for a local conservation trust. Today whilst out walking with him my daughter found a caterpillar, my brother must have found it of interest because he put it in a pot with some leaves and let my daughter bring it home to pupate. My daughter then took it to show her friends as soon as we got in, minutes later I'm confronted by an upset child because one of the other children took it away from her and threw it in the bin saying it was dead!!

It's only a caterpillar at the end of the day, but what gives this other child the right to throw it away! :-5 Do parents just not teach children respect for other peoples belongings, no matter how small or insignificant it seems to them, obviously not.

What a mean thing to do

Poor love

Send her my love :-4

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:48 am

Somehow I feel there is a purvey gloves moment about to happen, before it gets too dark, or the bin gets more stuff thrown in it! Hard lines BB, I think you've drawn the short straw! But just think how much higher up the respect ladder you will be in the young one's eyes, when you present her with a rescued caterpillar! It's worth a try, even if you don't succeed in finding the wee thing, at least you will have tried!

:-6 Either that, or go out and find another caterpillar !

Kids can be so wicked can't they? Spoilt jealous little madams if you ask me.

koan · Post by **koan** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:10 pm

It's not just today's kids. A friend of mine just had an experience similar to that and the villains were 27 and 39. The ensuing conversation was about how many people have no understanding of how to treat other people's belongings. As far as I know, it's a problem that spans every generation.

In this case, it's not just someone's belongings but the life of another creature. I think it's a good lesson in guarding your possessions and being cautious who you entrust with them but there's also the problem of your daughter thinking of the little caterpillar alive but trapped in the dumpster. I'm not big on lying to kids but I'd be tempted to feign a search and rescue then tell her that you found it but it was dead by the time you got there. The other option would be to get her a new one and tell her it was the original. Meanwhile, the kid who snatched it should be dubbed "caterpillar killer" for at least a week.

theia · Post by **theia** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:18 pm

Betty Boop;1302696 wrote: It wasn't dead, it was about to pupate. I've looked in the bin but it's brim full of stinking rubbish and it can't be seen at the moment.

Was it your bin or somebody else's?

Post by **Betty Boop** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:22 pm

theia;1302740 wrote: Was it your bin or somebody else's?

Someone else's, had it been mine I would have found Chloe the caterpillar and re-instated her in her home. My bin contains rubbish that is bagged and is fairly clean for a bin. The one down the road where Chloe is, is full of loose kitchen waste

. I did get quite attached to Chloe through the day, but not THAT attached!!

theia · Post by **theia** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:25 pm

Betty Boop;1302743 wrote: Someone else's, had it been mine I would have found Chloe the caterpillar and re-instated her in her home. My bin contains rubbish that is bagged and is fairly clean for a bin. The one down the road where Chloe is, is full of loose kitchen waste

. I did get quite attached to Chloe through the day, but not THAT attached!!

I'm not surprised you didn't go through someone else's bin...yuk! It doesn't bear thinking about.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:54 pm

Ah, what a sad thing to do.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:10 pm

Sorry I suggested that you search the bin with purvey gloves on, BB, I thought it was your own bin! Looks like plan B then ! Good luck :-6

Post by **spot** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:33 pm

If you get a replacement chrysalis from Bristol Zoo's Butterfly House you could end up with an immense butterfly capable of drinking an entire cup of nectar at a sitting and more vibrant colours than Davie Bowie. It could fly around the house for weeks terrorizing any visitor who still sports a beehive hairdo.

It might be difficult to convince your brother it was the original caterpillar, mind.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:12 pm

Betty Boop;1302743 wrote: Someone else's, had it been mine I would have found Chloe the caterpillar and re-instated her in her home. My bin contains rubbish that is bagged and is fairly clean for a bin. The one down the road where Chloe is, is full of loose kitchen waste

. I did get quite attached to Chloe through the day, but not THAT attached!!

awwwww your daughter even named her.

I hope one day you can find her another caterpillar.

or have that kid do it.:-5

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:49 pm

Betty Boop;1302743 wrote: Someone else's, had it been mine I would have found Chloe the caterpillar and re-instated her in her home. My bin contains rubbish that is bagged and is fairly clean for a bin. The one down the road where Chloe is, is full of loose kitchen waste

. I did get quite attached to Chloe through the day, but not THAT attached!!

Youre trash is good trash and your neighbors trash is yucky trash?

I do hope Im wrong but you sound like a trash elitist.

Tell me thats not how it is in Boopy world.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:51 pm

Nomad;1302809 wrote: Youre trash is good trash and your neighbors trash is yucky trash?

I do hope Im wrong but you sound like a trash elitist.

Tell me thats not how it is in Boopy world.

I am a bit trash elitist, but it's a good place to be Nomad.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:54 pm

There's good news, Chloe is home. The culprit dug down in the bin and got her out and he even came and apologised! And there was me thinking that one of his parents would be banging on my door to shout at me for ticking him off :wah:. Seems little old me must have scared him into making sure he found it :-3

Post by **spot** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:01 pm

That's wonderful.

You'll be in such amazing trouble now if Chloe doesn't survive long enough to fly. Keep her watered, or whatever she needs. Maybe not watered.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:09 pm

So the great Caterpillar catastrophe of 2010 has been avoided..Yeah!!

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:19 pm

spot;1303269 wrote: That's wonderful.

You'll be in such amazing trouble now if Chloe doesn't survive long enough to fly. Keep her watered, or whatever she needs. Maybe not watered.Beer...or Ale?

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:21 pm

Betty Boop;1303266 wrote: There's good news, Chloe is home. The culprit dug down in the bin and got her out and he even came and apologised! And there was me thinking that one of his parents would be banging on my door to shout at me for ticking him off :wah:. Seems little old me must have scared him into making sure he found it :-3

RESULT !!!! Hey I hope the poor little thing survives after such adventures :-6

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:50 pm

I bet Chloe will be the most beautiful butterfly ever one day soon.

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:15 pm

chonsigirl;1303287 wrote: I bet Chloe will be the most beautiful butterfly ever one day soon.

aww what a lovely happy ending, I was just about to suggest a wander over to the offenders house for a wee chat on one persons pet is not another persons trash. Well done Boops, so have we a butterfly yet???

Post by **spot** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:18 pm

minks;1303514 wrote: Well done Boops, so have we a butterfly yet???

I'm rather hoping it turns into a colossal mosquito with a two foot wingspan and eyes like saucers, that'd teach her not to experiment with nature.

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:19 pm

spot;1303516 wrote: I'm rather hoping it turns into a colossal mosquito with a two foot wingspan and eyes like saucers, that'd teach her not to experiment with nature.
you are a wicked man spot tsk tsk tsk

Post by **spot** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:22 pm

Hush minksy, if nobody says it then it can't be so.

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:25 pm

spot;1303525 wrote: Hush minksy, if nobody says it then it can't be so.

mum's the word

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:30 pm

Betty Boop;1303266 wrote: There's good news, Chloe is home. The culprit dug down in the bin and got her out and he even came and apologised! And there was me thinking that one of his parents would be banging on my door to shout at me for ticking him off :wah:. Seems little old me must have scared him into making sure he found it :-3

that's great Betty!

I can only imagine how happy your daughter is now.:-6

Post by **Betty Boop** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:23 am

spot;1303516 wrote: I'm rather hoping it turns into a colossal mosquito with a two foot wingspan and eyes like saucers, that'd teach her not to experiment with nature.

Charming! :p

Popped back to say poor caterpillar is shrivelled and looking mighty dead, it obviously died from shock. RIP Chloe.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:39 am

That is really sad !

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:51 am

spot;1302776 wrote: If you get a replacement chrysalis from Bristol Zoo's Butterfly House you could end up with an immense butterfly capable of drinking an entire cup of nectar at a sitting and more vibrant colours than Davie Bowie. It could fly around the house for weeks terrorizing any visitor who still sports a beehive hairdo.

It might be difficult to convince your brother it was the original caterpillar, mind.

It would terrorise me,, im frightened of huge butterflies

wah:

Betty Boop;1306597 wrote: Charming! :p

Popped back to say poor caterpillar is shrivelled and looking mighty dead, it obviously died from shock. RIP Chloe.

ah sorry to hear:-4