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The following is from the Huffington post. And if you click on the link at the bottom and scroll down you can review the CBO score and the actual reconciliation bill.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Bye bye, Cornhusker Kickback. Hello, special treatment for Tennessee and North Dakota.

Democrats unveiling revisions Thursday to their health care overhaul bill decided to kill the extra $100 million in Medicaid funds for Nebraska that has become a symbol of backdoor deal making.

But the 153 pages of changes to the massive health care package include extra money for hospitals in Tennessee that serve large numbers of low-income patients. And though the bill would revamp the nation's student loan system to make the government the only lender, one bank – the state-owned Bank of North Dakota – would be allowed to continue making student loans.........



.....The new package also promises new aid for colleges serving minority students, using money the government is supposed to save by no longer paying banks to make student loans. Included are annual payments of $100 million for schools with large numbers of Hispanic students, the same amount for colleges with many black students, and millions more for schools with large numbers of native Americans and other minorities.

Based on Thursday's changes, the health legislation also:

_Retains $300 million in extra Medicaid aid for Louisiana, which had helped win support for the Senate health bill from Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La. The state is still struggling to recover from Hurricane Katrina.

_Keeps $100 million included in the Senate bill that is expected to go for a public hospital in Connecticut sought by Dodd, who is retiring.

_Preserves language won by Baucus permitting many of the 2,900 residents of Libby, Mont., to qualify for Medicare benefits. Some of them have asbestos-related diseases from a now-shuttered mine.

_Provides an additional $8.5 billion over the next decade for 11 states and the District of Columbia to help them pay for the more generous Medicaid assistance they have been providing low-income residents. These states are Arizona, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin.

_Maintains a Senate-approved provision giving extra money for hospitals and doctors in North and South Dakota, Montana and Wyoming. Full Story: What's In, What's Out in Health Care Reform Bill
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I love the way they stuck the student loan bill on to this thing.

And the reward system for states whose legislators cooperate.
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Recieved this in an email today, it's intresting to say the least!



This is a short video from inside Congress telling of the absurdity of the government proposed health care plan. You may want to pass it on - it's good.



It was taken inside Congress with a Congressman.. IT WAS TAKEN OFF

THE VIDEO TAPES OF THE FLOOR OF OUR NATIONAL LEGISLATURE.





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That was from July '09.

A lot of changes to the bill.

I never found where the health care bill is going to take away my current health care program and replace it with a gummint-run one.

From what I can see, I keep the same program I currently have, as long as my employer keeps it active.
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More republican talking points? Too bad people parroting them don't bother to check the facts before making idiots of themselves for the good and glory of the insurance industry. They probably have stock in health insurance companies (selfish, greedy bastards).

IMO, the insurance industry actually wants this bill to go through, why else would they announce 39 percent increases in premiums when the bill seemed to be dead in the water? Its the insurance industry who resurrected the bill. They could have held out for another month or two before making the increase.

This is a huge windfall for the insurance industry, but they can live without it too and would be just as pleased without the regulations imposed on them. Either way the insurance industry wins - your investments are safe.
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Ahso!;1298121 wrote:

IMO, the insurance industry actually wants this bill to go through, why else would they announce 39 percent increases in premiums when the bill seemed to be dead in the water? Its the insurance industry who resurrected the bill. They could have held out for another month or two before making the increase.

This is a huge windfall for the insurance industry, but they can live without it too and would be just as pleased without the regulations imposed on them. Either way the insurance industry wins - your investments are safe.From yesterday's news on the PBS newshour.HARI SREENIVASAN: ......

Customers of Anthem Blue Cross in California will not have to face rate hikes of up to 39 percent. The company canceled plans for the increase on Thursday. The state insurance commissioner said Anthem's original justification for raising premiums had been based on flawed data. A day earlier, Anthem's parent company, WellPoint, announced first-quarter profits jumped by 50 percent.

Funny how that happens, isn't it!
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What amazes me is that the republicans pretended to be against too. It's not a whole lot different than the plan moderate republicans proposed back when Clinton was trying to do health care reform.

Seems like the GOP uses every compromise as a starting point for further advance. Reminds me of a quote I heard on the news about the israeli-palestine conflict. One party said the other party wasn't at the negotiating table, they were up in a tree. They gave them a ladder to help them down, but they just climbed up higher in the tree. :)

They are lucky because their constituents can't remember anything longer than two weeks ago.
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yaaarrrgg;1307260 wrote: What amazes me is that the republicans pretended to be against too. It's not a whole lot different than the plan moderate republicans proposed back when Clinton was trying to do health care reform.

Seems like the GOP uses every compromise as a starting point for further advance. Reminds me of a quote I heard on the news about the israeli-palestine conflict. One party said the other party wasn't at the negotiating table, they were up in a tree. They gave them a ladder to help them down, but they just climbed up higher in the tree. :)

They are lucky because their constituents can't remember anything longer than two weeks ago.Yeah the insurance industry told the republicans to be against the bill in order to confuse the people. And like good corporate lawyers the republicans jumped up and danced just like they were told to do. Bunch of puppets. Both the insurance industry and the republicans must be laughing their asses off at the conservative rank and file for actually believing their bullsh!t.
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