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Ahso!;1308101 wrote: And I guess none of what has been going on here is a form thread control.

There seems to be an idea in FG that when one or two long term members decide to trample on a thread its okay because more of you back the others up by participating. I don't think its right and it is definitely hindering growth here. But so be it. This is obviously the choice of management. Enjoy your deliberate destruction of yet another thread. There are a couple of you I am surprised at though, not that that matters.


Don't take matters so personally my dear chap. I put a thread on due to my wife getting a fair chunk of e mail asking about her family member. I thought the proceedings of the trial may be of interest for those members. I asked for no personal attacks in my opening post yet you seemed to ignore this and bait my wife through me. The idea of my thread was to post the news of the trial for some members on a daily basis yet you took my thread way off topic. Not that i mind i must add as i find my life far too short to worry myself with such trifles. It just seems rather amusing given your contribution to my thread that you are here complaining so bitterly. Try easing up and get into Hoppys mode. Life is fun and for living not whining about moderator control on a forum and things not going your way. The only other solution i can offer you is to start your own forum, at least then you would have total control.
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Ahso!;1308101 wrote: And I guess none of what has been going on here is a form thread control.

There seems to be an idea in FG that when one or two long term members decide to trample on a thread its okay because more of you back the others up by participating. I don't think its right and it is definitely hindering growth here. But so be it. This is obviously the choice of management. Enjoy your deliberate destruction of yet another thread. There are a couple of you I am surprised at though, not that that matters.


Ahso, I wouldn't have ever volunteered to be a mod if I thought I had to trawl through each and every thread to ensure it's on topic. We all volunteered to keep this place free of spam, we all have other things going on, none of us have the time to sit here and wade through every single thread. We don't want to have to police the place, we don't like getting dragged into the playground battles that happen around here either. The majority of people seem to want a lightly moderated board, which would easily be done if people just ignored the people they don't like.
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Peter Lake;1308102 wrote: Don't take matters so personally my dear chap. I put a thread on due to my wife getting a fair chunk of e mail asking about her family member. I thought the proceedings of the trial may be of interest for those members. I asked for no personal attacks in my opening post yet you seemed to ignore this and bait my wife through me. The idea of my thread was to post the news of the trial for some members on a daily basis yet you took my thread way off topic. Not that i mind i must add as i find my life far too short to worry myself with such trifles. It just seems rather amusing given your contribution to my thread that you are here complaining so bitterly. Try easing up and get into Hoppys mode. Life is fun and for living not whining about moderator control on a forum and things not going your way. The only other solution i can offer you is to start your own forum, at least then you would have total control.I didn't take your thread off topic at all. I asked some questions and you engaged me in conversation. had you not wanted to take the discussion where it went you could have opted out at any time and I would have respected that. That conversation was just as much your choice as it was mine. And it was all completely on topic.
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Betty Boop;1308105 wrote: Ahso, I wouldn't have ever volunteered to be a mod if I thought I had to trawl through each and every thread to ensure it's on topic. We all volunteered to keep this place free of spam, we all have other things going on, none of us have the time to sit here and wade through every single thread. We don't want to have to police the place, we don't like getting dragged into the playground battles that happen around here either. The majority of people seem to want a lightly moderated board, which would easily be done if people just ignored the people they don't like.I understand, BB. My point is the flagrant occurrences such as whats happened here and takes place in so many other threads. I'm not saying all posts must be spot on, but certainly those posters who don't even make an effort can be told they are out of line and should try to respect the topic at hand.

The point is threads are controlled either by adhering to the rules of the TOS or not. What good does it do to say no this or that if it goes unchecked anyway? Management says to report posts instead of arguing but it goes nowhere. You would think that in a forum with older people that this would be less of a problem than with younger people, but I guess maturity isn't determined by age.
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Ahso!;1308106 wrote: I didn't take your thread off topic at all. I asked some questions and you engaged me in conversation. had you not wanted to take the discussion where it went you could have opted out at any time and I would have respected that. That conversation was just as much your choice as it was mine. And it was all completely on topic.
I understand the frustration when you have posted a thread yourself but you seem to be getting rather irate on the subject of thread control. I understand where your coming from as i find it equally annoying when i find on a specialised forum for barbel anglers someone banging on about otter control yet you have posted this thread in the chit chat forum which is a general chat section as i understand it. I'm sure that no member takes your threads off topic on purpose or out of malice and i think you may alienate yourself if you continue with this. I have read your threads and you post some interesting topics so it would be a shame for you to get so heated over this.
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I'm not irate or overheated in the slightest, in fact I'm presently quite calm.

That truth is that the reason this forum experiences so many personal attacks and infighting is because it lacks control. Much of the problems occur because of frustration members experience from deliberate harassment and trolling of threads. If there was a sense of respect enforced members would begin to recognize boundaries. It would probably be difficult at first but would then become commonplace.
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Ahso!;1308108 wrote: I understand, BB. My point is the flagrant occurrences such as whats happened here and takes place in so many other threads. I'm not saying all posts must be spot on, but certainly those posters who don't even make an effort can be told they are out of line and should try to respect the topic at hand.

The point is threads are controlled either by adhering to the rules of the TOS or not. What good does it do to say no this or that if it goes unchecked anyway? Management says to report posts instead of arguing but it goes nowhere. You would think that in a forum with older people that this would be less of a problem than with younger people, but I guess maturity isn't determined by age.


Define maturity asho, my opinion of mature behaviour could be different to someone else's. Thinking of children and teenagers, how often do they disagree and fall out with their peers only to end up best mates by the weekend. No, older and more supposedly mature people are not so forgiving and they hold grudges, it comes down to personality and tolerance levels too. Some can walk on by people that irritate them and some can't. In lots of cases it also comes down to whether someone is having a good day or a bad day, of course there are some that are just plain bad tempered 24/7 too :wah:
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Ahso!;1308114 wrote: I'm not irate or overheated in the slightest, in fact I'm presently quite calm.

That truth is that the reason this forum experiences so many personal attacks and infighting is because it lacks control. Much of the problems occur because of frustration members experience from deliberate harassment and trolling of threads. If there was a sense of respect enforced members would begin to respect boundaries. It would probably be difficult at first but would then become commonplace.


People are not machines ahso and can't be controlled when you have such a mixture of different personalities with different outlooks on life along with a wide range of ages. Forums are made up of a diverse range of individuals who express themselve's in different ways. The written word is difficult to define as you can't see the emotion of the person behind the screen. The written word can be taken the right or wrong way by two different people. What is the respect you believe moderators should impose? Would that be the doctrine for all members to think the same and act the same and ultimately agree with your belief of how a forum should operate or should they be treated as individuals and allow people to express themselves freely?
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Betty Boop;1308115 wrote: Define maturity asho, my opinion of mature behaviour could be different to someone else's. Thinking of children and teenagers, how often do they disagree and fall out with their peers only to end up best mates by the weekend. No, older and more supposedly mature people are not so forgiving and they hold grudges, it comes down to personality and tolerance levels too. Some can walk on by people that irritate them and some can't. In lots of cases it also comes down to whether someone is having a good day or a bad day, of course there are some that are just plain bad tempered 24/7 too :wah:In all cases compromises are made. In the case of children those compromises are usually one way depending on size of both individuals and groups (I'm referring to group mentality here). Fair compromise recognizes the needs of all and works with it. You'd think in a setting consisting of older members this would be common sense, but then I remind myself we're all products of the same cultural indoctrination.

Like I said, I'm resigned to the fact that I'm spinning my wheels, so I'm content to leave it here if you agree.
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Peter Lake;1308116 wrote: People are not machines ahso and can't be controlled when you have such a mixture of different personalities with different outlooks on life along with a wide range of ages. Forums are made up of a diverse range of individuals who express themselve's in different ways. The written word is difficult to define as you can't see the emotion of the person behind the screen. The written word can be taken the right or wrong way by two different people. What is the respect you believe moderators should impose? Would that be the doctrine for all members to think the same and act the same and ultimately agree with your belief of how a forum should operate or should they be treated as individuals and allow people to express themselves freely?So are public area's like restaurants, but there is sense of mutual respect. People don't eat others food, yell across the dining room or invade the conversation taking place at another table.

Theres no excuse for the behavior going on here, you would be well served to stop trying to invent one.
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Ahso!;1308117 wrote: In all cases compromises are made. In the case of children those compromises are usually one way depending on size of both individuals and groups (I'm referring to group mentality here). Fair compromise recognizes the needs of all and works with it. You'd think in a setting consisting of older members this would be common sense, but then I remind myself we're all products of the same cultural indoctrination.

Like I said, I'm resigned to the fact that I'm spinning my wheels, so I'm content to leave it here if you agree.


I wish there was an easy answer on how to keep everyone happy all of the time. We all know that's impossible.

Whilst I think about it, your earlier comment, reported posts do get looked at, and they get discussed, don't ever think they don't. Any action that is taken is not public, just remember that actions could be taking place that you are not at all aware of.
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Betty Boop;1308119 wrote: I wish there was an easy answer on how to keep everyone happy all of the time. We all know that's impossible.

Whilst I think about it, your earlier comment, reported posts do get looked at, and they get discussed, don't ever think they don't. Any action that is taken is not public, just remember that actions could be taking place that you are not at all aware of.I do know that, BB and I have enormous respect for you folks who volunteer to do this thankless job, but it is your choice and sometimes it gets hard. I'm sorry I've felt I've had to do this but sometimes people work pretty hard to both come up with discussion topics and also construct them only to have them trampled on needlessly and senselessly, and then when its done deliberately by long term members and moderators, well that just takes the cake.

Don't try to keep everyone happy. Its easy enough for TS to create a "On Topic" forum so we all win. Hopefully I've made my case for that to happen
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Ahso!;1308118 wrote: So are public area's like restaurants, but there is sense of mutual respect. People don't eat others food, yell across the dining room or invade the conversation taking place at another table.

Theres no excuse for the behavior going on here, you would be well served to stop trying to invent one.
Your missing the point of which i was trying to make. You are implying that members taking a thread off topic is out of rudeness such as the example you gave of a restaurant. If that were the case then those members would be aware of their actions and whilst forums do suffer from trolls i don't believe that most members take a thread off topic out of deliberate rudeness or malice to the poster. It's horses for courses much of the time on forums and what may seem like a flippant post to you could be a source of interest or humour to others. Otherwise it comes down to controlling how members think and write and no forum or amount of moderation would ever be able to do that. I think you just have to accept that people are different and what you may consider rude may not be to others. I do believe that there are times when decorum is paramount such as on a thread dealing with loss of life or a subject causing a member great pain yet i have to say that i also believe all members here appreciate when it's appropriate to interject and when to leave well alone.
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Ahso!;1308120 wrote: I do know that, BB and I have enormous respect for you folks who volunteer to do this thankless job, but it is your choice and sometimes it gets hard. I'm sorry I've felt I've had to do this but sometimes people work pretty hard to both come up with discussion topics and also construct them only to have them trampled on needlessly and senselessly, and then when its done deliberately by long term members and moderators, well thats just takes the cake.

Don't try to keep everyone happy. Its easy enough for TS to create a "On Topic" forum so we all win. Hopefully I've made my case for that to happen


Have you contacted TS direct? That might be the best option.

Back to thread topics and your comment on even mods taking or maybe keeping threads off topic. I'd rather be a member here first and foremost rather than just a 'mod'. I came into this thread and wanted to sympathise with Theia, a good friend of mine that I wouldn't have the pleasure of knowing in real life if it wasn't for FG. I'm sorry if you feel that I have continued taking the thread off topic and that you feel that as a mod I shouldn't have. It's actually increasingly difficult to post anywhere on the boards as just Betty Boop, not as the mod Betty. :(
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Betty Boop;1308122 wrote: Have you contacted TS direct? That might be the best option.

Back to thread topics and your comment on even mods taking or maybe keeping threads off topic. I'd rather be a member here first and foremost rather than just a 'mod'. I came into this thread and wanted to sympathise with Theia, a good friend of mine that I wouldn't have the pleasure of knowing in real life if it wasn't for FG. I'm sorry if you feel that I have continued taking the thread off topic and that you feel that as a mod I shouldn't have. It's actually increasingly difficult to post anywhere on the boards as just Betty Boop, not as the mod Betty. :(I understand that too, Betty. My point has been that if it were an already established practice in FG that a new thread would have been forked to accommodate your wish to discuss what it is you wanted to with Theia. But since its not an established behavior it gets overlooked. Like I said, I see theres not much will to enforce what I'm talking about throughout the forum, nor should it have to be, but accommodations can be made by management. I'll contact TS directly and direct him to this thread for reference.

As far as I'm concerned you are Betty Boop the member first and a moderator second unless and until needs arise that require Betty Boop the moderator, then it reverses. But it reverses back again when the situation is settled. The problem with FG is nothing really gets settled, it just gets put off, and eventually it flares up again.

If you were to take a look at threads that have become problems I'd bet you'd see a feeling of lack of respect and that need not be the case in most instances if there were a sense of decorum recognized and shown through example by management, many of these problems would become settled, and quite easily I might add.
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Peter Lake;1308121 wrote: Your missing the point of which i was trying to make. You are implying that members taking a thread off topic is out of rudeness such as the example you gave of a restaurant. If that were the case then those members would be aware of their actions and whilst forums do suffer from trolls i don't believe that most members take a thread off topic out of deliberate rudeness or malice to the poster. It's horses for courses much of the time on forums and what may seem like a flippant post to you could be a source of interest or humour to others. Otherwise it comes down to controlling how members think and write and no forum or amount of moderation would ever be able to do that. I think you just have to accept that people are different and what you may consider rude may not be to others. I do believe that there are times when decorum is paramount such as on a thread dealing with loss of life or a subject causing a member great pain yet i have to say that i also believe all members here appreciate when it's appropriate to interject and when to leave well alone.It is rude. It may be commonplace enough for it to be accepted rudeness, but it is rude none the less. And it is by all means deliberate.
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Your idea about a "On Topic" area is a good one. There use to be a "Debate" area that had very specific rules that applies, not sure what happened to it.



You forget one thing ASHO this is TS site not yours, his rules apply always. We follow his instructions and no one elses. You need to take it to TS or ask one of us to take it to him. Please use the contact us button at the bottom of the site.



Once again it is your perception and feeling that things don't get resolved or handled. You have little knowledge of what MOD's do in the background and that is how it is suppose to be. Nothing will be made public when infractions are given or bans handed out not how it work and others privacy must be respected.

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I have been here a very long time its it the best site on the internet hands down or you wouldn't have asked to come back. Your not happy you can always move on. We do our very best to keep the peace day in and day out. This the most respectful group of posters I have ever had the pleasure of getting to know.



You have a need to beat a dead horse so to speak, it's not always about you, remember that. You don't like how the site is run start your own and dictate to members every thing they must do, they won't stay long. This is not a resturant, bar, walmart or any place else it is a forum that wants its member to speak freely and post their thoughts with as little rules as possible.
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Funny isn't it that the liberal is arguing for enforcement of rules while some of the more conservative members are arguing against it.
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Wow, I think I found a forum for you Ahso, (not that I want you to leave this one).



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CARLA;1308141 wrote:

You have a need to beat a dead horse so to speak, it's not always about you, remember that. You don't like how the site is run start your own and dictate to members every thing they must do, they won't stay long. This is not a resturant, bar, walmart or any place else it is a forum that wants its member to speak freely and post their thoughts with as little rules as possible.


This is exactly why I no longer post here. When you have to be afraid to speak freely there is no longer a reason to post. I used to love coming here but not any more. Thank you for your post Carla as it sums up everything I'm feeling right now.
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Jazzy;1308153 wrote: This is exactly why I no longer post here. When you have to be afraid to speak freely there is no longer a reason to post. I used to love coming here but not any more. Thank you for your post Carla as it sums up everything I'm feeling right now.
I can't believe you just said that....tsk tsk:D
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No its not all about me, I get that, but you three seem not to.

This is a discussion, lets not turn it into personal attacks. Or is that asking too much in the way of behavior?

Jazzy, you still have a bug about me. I stay away from you, why can't you do the same? Put away the victim card.

YZGI, What can I say. The link is cute but a complete misrepresentation of what I've been saying. Perhaps you're joking - perhaps not.
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Like I said you don't know when to throw in the towel and let it alone. There is a skill set involved in doing this that you don't seem to understand. Its called walk away and let it be.



You have made your point and given us your suggestion we will bring it up with TS, that is all any of us can do.



I will do my best to stay on topic in your threads. Just remember what you consider on topic may not be what I consider on topic, sorry that's just the way it is.
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Ahso!;1308161 wrote: No its not all about me, I get that, but you three seem not to.



This is a discussion, lets not turn it into personal attacks. Or is that asking too much in the way of behavior?



Jazzy, you still have a bug about me. I stay away from you, why can't you do the same? Put away the victim card.



YZGI, What can I say. The link is cute but a complete misrepresentation of what I've been saying. Perhaps you're joking - perhaps not.
Come on man. Have you ever been accused of having a sense of humor?
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CARLA;1308163 wrote: You have made it about you read your posts your the one focusing on you not anyone else.



Like I said you don't know when to throw in the towel and let it alone. There is a skill set involved in doing this that you don't seem to understand. Its called walk away and let it be.



You have made your point and given us your suggestion we will bring it up with TS, that is all any of us can do.



I will do my best to stay on topic in your threads. Just remember what you consider on topic may not be what I consider on topic, sorry that's just the way it is.I've just reread all my posts in this thread, Carla, and I'm sorry but you can't get away with making accusations you've made here without me defending my integrity. Except where I've referred to myself in the first person or responding to questions directed at me, would you please show me where I've made this about me and not the topic of "thread control"?

The skill set you refer to in my view is responding relevantly in conversations. Theres no question I can falter there occasionally but so can anyone else. I do try to catch myself though and when I do I usually make corrections.
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YZGI;1308166 wrote: Come on man. Have you ever been accused of having a sense of humor?You've said I've written some fun posts, haven't you?
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Ahso!;1308168 wrote: You've said I've written some fun posts, haven't you?
Sure, just wondering if you meant them to be.(joke)
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I blame the arcade. It's way to easy to mosey off and enjoy the solitude.



I don't have any interest in 'winning' an argument out here. Seems to me that folks think if they post last, they win. I disagree. If I quit replying to you, you've lost...at least the opportunity to persuade me to your point of view.



And, for the record - accusing folks of playing the 'victim' card is just another asinine attempt to bail on a real discussion, IMO. I've seen it quite a bit recently on here. Accuse a fellow member of whining about being a victim or playing the victim card rather then addressing their argument and YOU are the one who comes up lame in this readers eyes.



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CARLA;1308141 wrote:

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I have been here a very long time its it the best site on the internet hands down


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flopstock;1308172 wrote: I blame the arcade. It's way to easy to mosey off and enjoy the solitude.



I don't have any interest in 'winning' an argument out here. Seems to me that folks think if they post last, they win. I disagree. If I quit replying to you, you've lost...at least the opportunity to persuade me to your point of view.



And, for the record - accusing folks of playing the 'victim' card is just another asinine attempt to bail on a real discussion, IMO. I've seen it quite a bit recently on here. Accuse a fellow member of whining about being a victim or playing the victim card rather then addressing their argument and YOU are the one who comes up lame in this readers eyes.



Off to rumbleball!:-6Sorry, Flopstock, but I'm not going to take backhanded insults lying down. The victim card gets played a lot. A members feelings are that members feelings and no one other than that member is responsible for those feelings. Thats a difficult one for many many people to understand I've found.
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beowulf;1308174 wrote: sorry...but i have got to qoute that......if you think this is the best site on teh internet then im afraid you need to get out there and explore a bit :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl.....i can invite you to a couple of fun forums if you want :D


I'd LIKE! (Sorry if this is off topic.)
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flopstock;1308035 wrote: Which reminds me...give the mrs my best. I meant to post in another thread and got called away by work. Let her know I'm thinking of her:-6


I do apologise as i almost missed your post and i will pass on your regards when she gets home. That's very kind of you, Thankyou. Hang on, that's off topic.
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OK almost the best site that you want to come back to on a regular basis. :yh_rotfl :yh_rotflI get out there and I keep coming back to the GARDEN it is my home. ;)



[QUOTE]sorry...but i have got to qoute that......if you think this is the best site on teh internet then im afraid you need to get out there and explore a bit :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl.....i can invite you to a couple of fun forums if you want :D[/QUOTE]
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CARLA;1308197 wrote: OK almost the best site that you want to come back to on a regular basis. :yh_rotfl :yh_rotflI get out there and I keep coming back to the GARDEN it is my home. ;)
I'm with ya Carla. I don't post near as much as I used too but it comes and goes and FG is always still standing. I tend to offend, go off topic, act immature etc. etc. so I wait around until I sense a poster just might get a chuckle then I do a drive by.:D
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Ahso!;1308176 wrote: Sorry, Flopstock, but I'm not going to take backhanded insults lying down. The victim card gets played a lot. A members feelings are that members feelings and no one other than that member is responsible for those feelings. Thats a difficult one for many many people to understand I've found. Have you tried that 24 forum ahso? I've not visited myself but my wife has had her own forum there for some time and i'm sure she would be pleased to see you and discuss topics of interest with you in her own inimitable verbose style.
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YZGI;1308199 wrote: I'm with ya Carla. I don't post near as much as I used too but it comes and goes and FG is always still standing. I tend to offend, go off topic, act immature etc. etc. so I wait around until I sense a poster just might get a chuckle then I do a drive by.:D


all of us go off topic and act immature at times, its what we do.:yh_rotfl

It's called having fun, ever been in Odie's room?:wah:


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CARLA;1308141 wrote: Your idea about a "On Topic" area is a good one. There use to be a "Debate" area that had very specific rules that applies, not sure what happened to it.



You forget one thing ASHO this is TS site not yours, his rules apply always. We follow his instructions and no one elses. You need to take it to TS or ask one of us to take it to him. Please use the contact us button at the bottom of the site.



Once again it is your perception and feeling that things don't get resolved or handled. You have little knowledge of what MOD's do in the background and that is how it is suppose to be. Nothing will be made public when infractions are given or bans handed out not how it work and others privacy must be respected.

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I have been here a very long time its it the best site on the internet hands down or you wouldn't have asked to come back. Your not happy you can always move on. We do our very best to keep the peace day in and day out. This the most respectful group of posters I have ever had the pleasure of getting to know.



You have a need to beat a dead horse so to speak, it's not always about you, remember that. You don't like how the site is run start your own and dictate to members every thing they must do, they won't stay long. This is not a resturant, bar, walmart or any place else it is a forum that wants its member to speak freely and post their thoughts with as little rules as possible.


Betty Boop;1308122 wrote: Have you contacted TS direct? That might be the best option.

Back to thread topics and your comment on even mods taking or maybe keeping threads off topic. I'd rather be a member here first and foremost rather than just a 'mod'. I came into this thread and wanted to sympathise with Theia, a good friend of mine that I wouldn't have the pleasure of knowing in real life if it wasn't for FG. I'm sorry if you feel that I have continued taking the thread off topic and that you feel that as a mod I shouldn't have. It's actually increasingly difficult to post anywhere on the boards as just Betty Boop, not as the mod Betty. :(


One of the main reasons i stayed away from here a long while and now only post once in a while ,, is the fact i couldnt enjoy being here and speak freely ,, mainly down to a certain member following me to wind me up ,, all within the rules of course, making it hard for mods to do anything even though some knew what was happening, and also making me more frustrated to the point of me ending up with an infraction for pulling this person up.. my fault ,, lost control eventually:rolleyes:

I also bolded the TS references as i have contated TS a few times on different issues and he mainly ignores really. Just get no answer whatever. Not even shut up you are mad go away:wah:

Sorry Ahso i have used this thread to say what i wanted when the whole thing is about threads going off topic. But sometimes thats what people might do just to P you off ,, especially if they know you dont like it..




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flopstock;1308172 wrote: I don't have any interest in 'winning' an argument out here. Seems to me that folks think if they post last, they win. I disagree. If I quit replying to you, you've lost...




Poppycock.

If you quit replying its because you got beat down. All the winds gone out of your sail. You lose.

Sure, the other person is left with something stupid they said hanging there at the end of the thread and yes they may begin to question themselves and start feeling like a jerkwad but whats that got to do with anything. I still see stupid things I said at the ends of threads all over the place. I could probably find a dozen threads with my post being the last one. Am I a jerkwad? Of course I am but I won.
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Floppy?
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:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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hoppy;1308366 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


Floppy?

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kazalala;1308212 wrote: One of the main reasons i stayed away from here a long while and now only post once in a while ,, is the fact i couldnt enjoy being here and speak freely ,, mainly down to a certain member following me to wind me up ,, all within the rules of course, making it hard for mods to do anything even though some knew what was happening, and also making me more frustrated to the point of me ending up with an infraction for pulling this person up.. my fault ,, lost control eventually:rolleyes:

I also bolded the TS references as i have contated TS a few times on different issues and he mainly ignores really. Just get no answer whatever. Not even shut up you are mad go away:wah:

Sorry Ahso i have used this thread to say what i wanted when the whole thing is about threads going off topic. But sometimes thats what people might do just to P you off ,, especially if they know you dont like it..


Also .. recently, i have become invisible:-3:lips::wah:




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kazalala;1308437 wrote: Also .. recently, i have become invisible:-3:lips::wah:


who are you again? :yh_rotfl
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beowulf;1308439 wrote: who are you again? :yh_rotfl


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:p




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Peter Lake;1308200 wrote: Have you tried that 24 forum ahso? I've not visited myself but my wife has had her own forum there for some time and i'm sure she would be pleased to see you and discuss topics of interest with you in her own inimitable verbose style.
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It's awesome to see you again Kaz !!!!! Even if you are invisible. :sneaky:
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AussiePam;1308479 wrote: It's awesome to see you again Kaz !!!!! Even if you are invisible. :sneaky:


OMG you have x ray eyes!!!:eek: :yh_rotfl thanks Pam ,, :-4




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And I leap tall buildings in a single bound.... :sneaky:
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