I'm a happy person despite how many times I'm disappointed with people. The key at the moment seems to be to lower my expectations. I haven't been willing to do that so far so I've settled for lowering my tolerance.
I ask simply: What do you think are the percentages of good, kind people to liars, users and losers?
To be fair in asking, my current assessment is 10% good as a best case scenario.
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I use a different type of assessment.
I consider most people to be moral individuals yet I find most people to be unethical to highly unethical throughout their lives.
Driving a child through a McDonald's drivethru is unethical yet the desire to provide food for that child is obviously a moral virtue. The differences being that McDonald's is horribly unhealthy yet to abandon one's child to care less if they eat or drink is horrifically immoral
If I were to suggest percentages specifically I'd say 90% of people are moral while 75% are unethical
I consider most people to be moral individuals yet I find most people to be unethical to highly unethical throughout their lives.
Driving a child through a McDonald's drivethru is unethical yet the desire to provide food for that child is obviously a moral virtue. The differences being that McDonald's is horribly unhealthy yet to abandon one's child to care less if they eat or drink is horrifically immoral
If I were to suggest percentages specifically I'd say 90% of people are moral while 75% are unethical
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I've had another recent disappointment. Taken in another stray. Every failure means I'm less likely to help someone else and that means the world is losing a good Samaritan. I wonder what the minimum number of good Samaritans is in order to keep the world from descending into hell...
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koan;1310772 wrote: I'm a happy person despite how many times I'm disappointed with people. The key at the moment seems to be to lower my expectations. I haven't been willing to do that so far so I've settled for lowering my tolerance.
I ask simply: What do you think are the percentages of good, kind people to liars, users and losers?
To be fair in asking, my current assessment is 10% good as a best case scenario.
I believe that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE. even people we consider to be good and kind people can and will be liars, users and losers depending on the circumstances in which they find themselves at a particular point in time. Therefore, I am never disappointed with people, irritated & angry perhaps, but never disappointed.
I ask simply: What do you think are the percentages of good, kind people to liars, users and losers?
To be fair in asking, my current assessment is 10% good as a best case scenario.
I believe that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE. even people we consider to be good and kind people can and will be liars, users and losers depending on the circumstances in which they find themselves at a particular point in time. Therefore, I am never disappointed with people, irritated & angry perhaps, but never disappointed.
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koan;1310784 wrote: I've had another recent disappointment. Taken in another stray. Every failure means I'm less likely to help someone else and that means the world is losing a good Samaritan. I wonder what the minimum number of good Samaritans is in order to keep the world from descending into hell...
What would you feel is an acceptable percentage of murders that occurred while people(s) assisted roadside unfortunates that ultimately "negates" a civilians right to live? At what percentage would you suggest it's not neurotic to drive by a cars blinking hazzards?
What would you feel is an acceptable percentage of murders that occurred while people(s) assisted roadside unfortunates that ultimately "negates" a civilians right to live? At what percentage would you suggest it's not neurotic to drive by a cars blinking hazzards?
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Depends what percentage of murders you think is reasonable regarding morons that crash on someone's couch and don't leave while breaking every rule of acceptable social behaviour.
sorry, I really just didn't follow what the heck you were asking me. Though my response illuminates what is irking me at the moment.
sorry, I really just didn't follow what the heck you were asking me. Though my response illuminates what is irking me at the moment.
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koan;1310787 wrote: Depends what percentage of murders you think is reasonable regarding morons that crash on someone's couch and don't leave while breaking every rule of acceptable social behaviour.
sorry, I really just didn't follow what the heck you were asking me. Though my response illuminates what is irking me at the moment.
I'm pretty convinced we're all givers and takers at different points throughout our lives. Perhaps you have been giving too long and now it's time you started taking. I think we all go through stages where we need other's help, when we're strong enough we are able to be the giver. Stop giving and spend some time on just you, you will soon be strong again. If you think that there are only 10% good out there then that is what you will attract to yourself, you need to get that percentage up to 99.9%, when that's done that will be the percentage you see :-6
I hope you can get rid of your leech, that can't be fun :-4
sorry, I really just didn't follow what the heck you were asking me. Though my response illuminates what is irking me at the moment.
I'm pretty convinced we're all givers and takers at different points throughout our lives. Perhaps you have been giving too long and now it's time you started taking. I think we all go through stages where we need other's help, when we're strong enough we are able to be the giver. Stop giving and spend some time on just you, you will soon be strong again. If you think that there are only 10% good out there then that is what you will attract to yourself, you need to get that percentage up to 99.9%, when that's done that will be the percentage you see :-6
I hope you can get rid of your leech, that can't be fun :-4
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I believe most people are good most of the time but people will falter and fail. Its the human condition. If you lower your expectations you lower your own potential for being all the good things you can be. Dont let anyone do that to you.
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When you take in strays, you open your home to critters who are not able, for some reason, to support themselves in the manner to which you are accustomed. They are most likely in a lower chakra than you, and probably in survival mode. Opportunism is a driving factor for such creatures.
If you insist on doing this, you must expect that they are going to take advantage of the situation. You offer them your home, and they take it. There is little to divide what you have actually intended to give them, and what they perceive that you have given them. If you are lucky they may actually say 'thank you' as they leave with your stuff.
If you are unwilling to risk the circumstances that can follow, you should stop taking them in.
I know that our success rate with strays has been less than stellar.
The stories I can tell.
And yet, we see the need, and continue to offer ourselves to such as would appreciate the kindness, in hopes of finding that next success story.
The stray who will not disappoint you is a rare beastie, unfortunately.
If you insist on doing this, you must expect that they are going to take advantage of the situation. You offer them your home, and they take it. There is little to divide what you have actually intended to give them, and what they perceive that you have given them. If you are lucky they may actually say 'thank you' as they leave with your stuff.
If you are unwilling to risk the circumstances that can follow, you should stop taking them in.
I know that our success rate with strays has been less than stellar.
The stories I can tell.
And yet, we see the need, and continue to offer ourselves to such as would appreciate the kindness, in hopes of finding that next success story.
The stray who will not disappoint you is a rare beastie, unfortunately.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
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koan, I found this little quote just now:
"I see each person who comes into my life as an opportunity to learn something about human nature, and myself. Each person has a lesson to teach me. I try to learn."
-Holly Archer
I don't know who this Holly Archer is, but what she says kind of makes sense. You learned that you are kind and generous, but not a pushover. You have too much self-respect to be abused by someone else. You will carry on, but with caution.
Am I right......or way off base?
"I see each person who comes into my life as an opportunity to learn something about human nature, and myself. Each person has a lesson to teach me. I try to learn."
-Holly Archer
I don't know who this Holly Archer is, but what she says kind of makes sense. You learned that you are kind and generous, but not a pushover. You have too much self-respect to be abused by someone else. You will carry on, but with caution.
Am I right......or way off base?
Life is a Highway. Let's share the Commute.
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along-for-the-ride;1310936 wrote: koan, I found this little quote just now:
"I see each person who comes into my life as an opportunity to learn something about human nature, and myself. Each person has a lesson to teach me. I try to learn."
-Holly Archer
I don't know who this Holly Archer is, but what she says kind of makes sense. You learned that you are kind and generous, but not a pushover. You have too much self-respect to be abused by someone else. You will carry on, but with caution.
Am I right......or way off base?
Way off base. Way way off. Youre off the map. Its not even a blip on the most powerful radar the military has ever built.
If aliens came here and saw that kind of advise its beyond me why they wouldnt destroy us for that alone.
"I see each person who comes into my life as an opportunity to learn something about human nature, and myself. Each person has a lesson to teach me. I try to learn."
-Holly Archer
I don't know who this Holly Archer is, but what she says kind of makes sense. You learned that you are kind and generous, but not a pushover. You have too much self-respect to be abused by someone else. You will carry on, but with caution.
Am I right......or way off base?
Way off base. Way way off. Youre off the map. Its not even a blip on the most powerful radar the military has ever built.
If aliens came here and saw that kind of advise its beyond me why they wouldnt destroy us for that alone.
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Nomad;1310937 wrote: Way off base. Way way off. Youre off the map. Its not even a blip on the most powerful radar the military has ever built.
If aliens came here and saw that kind of advise its beyond me why they wouldnt destroy us for that alone.
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Behave, Nomie...................I was asking koan, not you.
If aliens came here and saw that kind of advise its beyond me why they wouldnt destroy us for that alone.
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Behave, Nomie...................I was asking koan, not you.
Life is a Highway. Let's share the Commute.
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I definitely handled this situation differently than I would have in the past because of the past.
His last few days here were spent listening to why I don't feel sorry for him. :yh_rotfl
It would have gone on a lot longer if I hadn't taken a stand. He left here and is on someone else's couch now despite his assertion that he was moving into his own place today. I lost all patience for his assertions when I found coke paraphernalia under the couch. :-5
His last few days here were spent listening to why I don't feel sorry for him. :yh_rotfl
It would have gone on a lot longer if I hadn't taken a stand. He left here and is on someone else's couch now despite his assertion that he was moving into his own place today. I lost all patience for his assertions when I found coke paraphernalia under the couch. :-5
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koan;1310787 wrote: Depends what percentage of murders you think is reasonable regarding morons that crash on someone's couch and don't leave while breaking every rule of acceptable social behaviour.
sorry, I really just didn't follow what the heck you were asking me. Though my response illuminates what is irking me at the moment.
"At what percentage of roadside murders that have occurred during the event a "stranger" decided to help would you consider to be far too great to give a helping hand yourself?" is the question
sorry, I really just didn't follow what the heck you were asking me. Though my response illuminates what is irking me at the moment.
"At what percentage of roadside murders that have occurred during the event a "stranger" decided to help would you consider to be far too great to give a helping hand yourself?" is the question
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ah, ok. That's a little different though as I certainly don't give complete strangers keys to my house. I think that's what annoys me... they're not strangers. If they were I wouldn't have expectations.
The only scenario in which I would consider stopping to help a roadside stray would be if it was a woman with a small child.
The only scenario in which I would consider stopping to help a roadside stray would be if it was a woman with a small child.
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koan;1310991 wrote: ah, ok. That's a little different though as I certainly don't give complete strangers keys to my house. I think that's what annoys me... they're not strangers. If they were I wouldn't have expectations.
The only scenario in which I would consider stopping to help a roadside stray would be if it was a woman with a small child.
Or a YZGI Right?
The only scenario in which I would consider stopping to help a roadside stray would be if it was a woman with a small child.
Or a YZGI Right?
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koan;1310991 wrote: ah, ok. That's a little different though as I certainly don't give complete strangers keys to my house. I think that's what annoys me... they're not strangers. If they were I wouldn't have expectations.
The only scenario in which I would consider stopping to help a roadside stray would be if it was a woman with a small child.
This is probably wise.
The only scenario in which I would consider stopping to help a roadside stray would be if it was a woman with a small child.
This is probably wise.
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I get the feeling we are talking a little more than just bringing a guy in out of the cold to feed him and send him on his way.
My niece used to bring home stray guys she met at the bar, who were "just getting their sh* together after some kind of minor disaster.
She would bed them and feed them and wait for them to get that sh* together for a while, but their true story would become a bit more clear as the days passed.
She would then finally run the guy off after she found out he was just out of prison, or had a wife in New Jersey, or was just a loser, or some such. (the last one, she came home to find him smoking pot with the chickie next door while he was "baby-sitting" her two kids. )
Finally she actually met a guy who was NOT a stray. He actually had a job, money, a car of his own, and a house of his own, and was looking for the right girl.
They ended up getting married and having kid #3 and are doing well.
No more strays for her.
Now, I, on the other hand, was a stray when my current wife took me in, and we have done pretty well for ourselves over the last 30 years.
My niece used to bring home stray guys she met at the bar, who were "just getting their sh* together after some kind of minor disaster.
She would bed them and feed them and wait for them to get that sh* together for a while, but their true story would become a bit more clear as the days passed.
She would then finally run the guy off after she found out he was just out of prison, or had a wife in New Jersey, or was just a loser, or some such. (the last one, she came home to find him smoking pot with the chickie next door while he was "baby-sitting" her two kids. )
Finally she actually met a guy who was NOT a stray. He actually had a job, money, a car of his own, and a house of his own, and was looking for the right girl.
They ended up getting married and having kid #3 and are doing well.
No more strays for her.
Now, I, on the other hand, was a stray when my current wife took me in, and we have done pretty well for ourselves over the last 30 years.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
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What I find a bit telling is that in my observations I've found the areas between the inner city and the wealthier suburbs to be far more to my liking.
The people smile actually instead of contemplating how they'll rob you or simply turn their nose up because they're "better than you"(In "all ways" not just some)
The people smile actually instead of contemplating how they'll rob you or simply turn their nose up because they're "better than you"(In "all ways" not just some)
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K.Snyder;1311314 wrote: What I find a bit telling is that in my observations I've found the areas between the inner city and the wealthier suburbs to be far more to my liking.
The people smile actually instead of contemplating how they'll rob you or simply turn their nose up because they're "better than you"(In "all ways" not just some)
The experienced robber will smile and turn their nose up at you as they relieve you of your wallet.
Leaves you feeling like something special just happened.
The people smile actually instead of contemplating how they'll rob you or simply turn their nose up because they're "better than you"(In "all ways" not just some)
The experienced robber will smile and turn their nose up at you as they relieve you of your wallet.
Leaves you feeling like something special just happened.
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Nomad;1311331 wrote: The experienced robber will smile and turn their nose up at you as they relieve you of your wallet.
Leaves you feeling like something special just happened.
THAT sounds like a politician at work.
Leaves you feeling like something special just happened.
THAT sounds like a politician at work.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
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Nomad;1311331 wrote: The experienced robber will smile and turn their nose up at you as they relieve you of your wallet.
Leaves you feeling like something special just happened.
THAT sounds like a politician at work.
Leaves you feeling like something special just happened.
THAT sounds like a politician at work.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
- DH Lawrence
- DH Lawrence
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LarsMac;1311399 wrote: THAT sounds like a politician at work.
LarsMac;1311401 wrote: THAT sounds like a politician at work.
What are the percetages that it is groundhog day?:wah:
LarsMac;1311401 wrote: THAT sounds like a politician at work.
What are the percetages that it is groundhog day?:wah: