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Eight days ago, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal ordered barges to begin vacuuming crude oil out of his state's oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor's wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the Louisiana shore
"It's the most frustrating thing," the Republican governor said today in Buras, La. "Literally, yesterday morning we found out that they were halting all of these barges
Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up thousands of gallons of BP's oil as recently as Tuesday. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that seemed to be effective at collecting the thick gunk.
"These barges work. You've seen them work. You've seen them suck oil out of the water," said Jindal.
Why stop now?
"The Coast Guard came and shut them down," Jindal said. "You got men on the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast Guard, 'Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil.'"
A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the same goal as the governor.
"We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer.
Oh, really? Frankly Dan, I think you are a confused bureaucrat pretending to be a leader in the Coast Guard. Shame on you for that. Why do I say that?
But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it had trouble contacting the people who built the barges."
Lessee, when I had my boat down in Monterey Bay, the Coast Guard would come aboard and check for those things...don't ever remember them having to contact Pacemaker Yachts, the people who built my boat.
So, who's the real enemy?
So, who's the real enemy?
Looks like they are finally moving again.
BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Bobby Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard - ABC News
BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Bobby Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard - ABC News
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
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That'd be valid reason for the governor to go postal on the Coast Guard. Not many people'd blame him, either. :-5
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Goldman Sachs knew Gulf oil leak in advance.
No joke: Goldman Sachs shorted Gulf of Mexico
It turns out that Goldman Sachs really did place shorts on TransOcean stock days before the explosions rocked the rig in the Gulf of Mexico sending stocks plunging while GS profits soared -- benefitting once again from a huge disaster, having done the same with airline stocks prior to 911 then again with the housing bubble.
by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
On Apr. 30, the Huffington Post published a story stating:
In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.
The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf.
No joke: Goldman Sachs shorted Gulf of Mexico
No joke: Goldman Sachs shorted Gulf of Mexico
It turns out that Goldman Sachs really did place shorts on TransOcean stock days before the explosions rocked the rig in the Gulf of Mexico sending stocks plunging while GS profits soared -- benefitting once again from a huge disaster, having done the same with airline stocks prior to 911 then again with the housing bubble.
by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
On Apr. 30, the Huffington Post published a story stating:
In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.
The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf.
No joke: Goldman Sachs shorted Gulf of Mexico
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Who is the real enemy? Those who made money on crisis they created.
Disaster capitalists: Halliburton to make money off oil spill
By Daniel Tencer
Friday, June 18th, 2010 -- 3:10 pm
Does a company that both builds oil rigs and cleans up oil spills have any motivation to prevent oil rig disasters?
That's the question some people in business and politics are asking themselves after Halliburton's purchase of an oil clean-up company 10 days before the Deepwater Horizon explosion that killed 11 workers and launched the worst oil spill in US history.
Some observers see a conspiracy in the actions of the company once headed by Dick Cheney. Halliburton, which built the cement casing for the Deepwater Horizon's drill, announced its purchase of Houston-based oilfield services company Boots and Coots for $240 million on April 9, just 11 days before the Deepwater Horizon explosion.
Disaster capitalists: Halliburton to make money off oil spill | Raw Story
Halliburton bought Boots & Coots one week before oil spill. (Apr. 20)
1. Halliburton Snaps Up Boots & Coots - DailyFinance
Apr 12, 2010
Halliburton Snaps Up Boots & Coots - DailyFinance
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill
The chief executive of BP sold £1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.
By Jon Swaine and Robert Winnett
Published: 12:10AM BST 05 Jun 2010
Tony Hayward cashed in about a third of his holding in the company one month before a well on the Deepwater Horizon rig burst, causing an environmental disaster.
Mr Hayward, whose pay package is £4 million a year, then paid off the mortgage on his family’s mansion in Kent, which is estimated to be valued at more than £1.2 million.
There is no suggestion that he acted improperly or had prior knowledge that the company was to face the biggest setback in its history.
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill - Telegraph
Disaster capitalists: Halliburton to make money off oil spill
By Daniel Tencer
Friday, June 18th, 2010 -- 3:10 pm
Does a company that both builds oil rigs and cleans up oil spills have any motivation to prevent oil rig disasters?
That's the question some people in business and politics are asking themselves after Halliburton's purchase of an oil clean-up company 10 days before the Deepwater Horizon explosion that killed 11 workers and launched the worst oil spill in US history.
Some observers see a conspiracy in the actions of the company once headed by Dick Cheney. Halliburton, which built the cement casing for the Deepwater Horizon's drill, announced its purchase of Houston-based oilfield services company Boots and Coots for $240 million on April 9, just 11 days before the Deepwater Horizon explosion.
Disaster capitalists: Halliburton to make money off oil spill | Raw Story
Halliburton bought Boots & Coots one week before oil spill. (Apr. 20)
1. Halliburton Snaps Up Boots & Coots - DailyFinance
Apr 12, 2010
Halliburton Snaps Up Boots & Coots - DailyFinance
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill
The chief executive of BP sold £1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.
By Jon Swaine and Robert Winnett
Published: 12:10AM BST 05 Jun 2010
Tony Hayward cashed in about a third of his holding in the company one month before a well on the Deepwater Horizon rig burst, causing an environmental disaster.
Mr Hayward, whose pay package is £4 million a year, then paid off the mortgage on his family’s mansion in Kent, which is estimated to be valued at more than £1.2 million.
There is no suggestion that he acted improperly or had prior knowledge that the company was to face the biggest setback in its history.
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill - Telegraph
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Somebody knew in advance. It was meant to happen. That’s why Goldman Sachs, Halliburton and BP’s Chief, all could make money on it.
'And The Sea Shall Turn To Blood'...
By David Icke
The David Icke Newsletter
6-27-10
Mother Jones magazine reported:
'Tony Buzbee, a lawyer representing 15 rig workers and dozens of shrimpers, seafood restaurants, and dock workers, says he has obtained a three-page signed statement from a crew member on the boat that rescued the burning rig's workers.
The sailor, who Buzbee refuses to name for fear of costing him his job, was on the ship's bridge when Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell, a top employee of rig owner Transocean, was speaking with someone in Houston via satellite phone.
Buzbee told Mother Jones that, according to this witness account, Harrell was screaming, "Are you @#$%&! happy? Are you @#$%&! happy? The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen.'
Yes, and nothing was done because it was meant to happen.
'And The Sea Shall Turn To Blood'...
'And The Sea Shall Turn To Blood'...
By David Icke
The David Icke Newsletter
6-27-10
Mother Jones magazine reported:
'Tony Buzbee, a lawyer representing 15 rig workers and dozens of shrimpers, seafood restaurants, and dock workers, says he has obtained a three-page signed statement from a crew member on the boat that rescued the burning rig's workers.
The sailor, who Buzbee refuses to name for fear of costing him his job, was on the ship's bridge when Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell, a top employee of rig owner Transocean, was speaking with someone in Houston via satellite phone.
Buzbee told Mother Jones that, according to this witness account, Harrell was screaming, "Are you @#$%&! happy? Are you @#$%&! happy? The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen.'
Yes, and nothing was done because it was meant to happen.
'And The Sea Shall Turn To Blood'...
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BP originates from Pursian Gulf oil business. It was“The National Iranian Oil Company” in 1953, and was ousted from Iran in 1979. When US wants to start a war in Iran, they need again the ally of the Great Britain like what they had when Bush started Iraq invasion. But the poddle of Tony Blair is not at the seat. To extort Britain to join the coming Iran war, the Gulf oil spill was created to shake the foundation of the BP. To save BP from the financial trouble – joining the Iran war.
Quote, “Iran Accountable for BP Oil Spill
Posted on 03. Aug, 2010 by Raja Mujtaba in Enviornment
By Mehreen Saee
In order to pay for the damages it caused to U.S. businesses and to itself, BP will likely resort to its historic strategy of how it became an oil giant in the first place. And the U.S. will once again help the corporation as we did in 1953 when a covert CIA plot overthrew Iran’s democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh and instated an authoritarian regime in order to acquire that country’s oil.
The coup proved to be a successful covert experiment for the U.S. when The National Iranian Oil Company was transformed into British Petroleum in 1954…..
In 1979, Iran’s Islamic Revolution ousted BP from the country and attained back its resources; but for the past few years U.S. officials have again been looking toward Iran, which still has the world’s third largest oil reserves.
Iran Accountable for BP Oil Spill | Opinion Maker
Quote, “Iran Accountable for BP Oil Spill
Posted on 03. Aug, 2010 by Raja Mujtaba in Enviornment
By Mehreen Saee
In order to pay for the damages it caused to U.S. businesses and to itself, BP will likely resort to its historic strategy of how it became an oil giant in the first place. And the U.S. will once again help the corporation as we did in 1953 when a covert CIA plot overthrew Iran’s democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh and instated an authoritarian regime in order to acquire that country’s oil.
The coup proved to be a successful covert experiment for the U.S. when The National Iranian Oil Company was transformed into British Petroleum in 1954…..
In 1979, Iran’s Islamic Revolution ousted BP from the country and attained back its resources; but for the past few years U.S. officials have again been looking toward Iran, which still has the world’s third largest oil reserves.
Iran Accountable for BP Oil Spill | Opinion Maker
So, who's the real enemy?
kathaksung;1337348 wrote: BP originates from Pursian Gulf oil business. It was“The National Iranian Oil Company in 1953, and was ousted from Iran in 1979. When US wants to start a war in Iran, they need again the ally of the Great Britain like what they had when Bush started Iraq invasion. But the poddle of Tony Blair is not at the seat. To extort Britain to join the coming Iran war, the Gulf oil spill was created to shake the foundation of the BP. To save BP from the financial trouble – joining the Iran war.
Quote, “
Given that BP is a multi-national which is as much American owned as it is British,
given that BP is not in danger financially due to the oil spill,
given that a Conservative led government is unlikely to change government policy to bail out a non-essential multi-national,
given that the UK does not have the military capacity for another war,
given that the coalition would collapse before it could order such a war,
given that any government ordering such a war would do so knowing it would never see power again,
nah - don't think so :yh_rotfl
Quote, “
Given that BP is a multi-national which is as much American owned as it is British,
given that BP is not in danger financially due to the oil spill,
given that a Conservative led government is unlikely to change government policy to bail out a non-essential multi-national,
given that the UK does not have the military capacity for another war,
given that the coalition would collapse before it could order such a war,
given that any government ordering such a war would do so knowing it would never see power again,
nah - don't think so :yh_rotfl
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Bryn Mawr;1337355 wrote: Given that BP is a multi-national which is as much American owned as it is British,
given that BP is not in danger financially due to the oil spill,
given that a Conservative led government is unlikely to change government policy to bail out a non-essential multi-national,
given that the UK does not have the military capacity for another war,
given that the coalition would collapse before it could order such a war,
given that any government ordering such a war would do so knowing it would never see power again,
nah - don't think so :yh_rotfl
Reluctant reason. The development is in another way.
U.K. kneeling down (10/4/2010)
BP oil rig in Gulf was damaged in April 20, 2010. I alleged it was sabotage because big heads all knew in advance. Goldman Sachs, BP’s Chief all sold their BP stocks days before the case broken. Halliburton also bought an oil clean-up company just a week before the rig collapsing. Everything follows the steps of 911 sabotage when there was a “Bin Laden trading” of stock which made money on the coming 911 attack. The insiders are experts to take advantage on their plot.
BP was not able to stop the oil leaking in following month. The pressure increased on U.K.. Watch the time table:
6/12, “ UK PM to visit Washington next month |
Reuters
Sat, Jun 12 . Obama tells Britain: BP must pay economic claims
UK PM Cameron to visit Washington next month | Reuters “
U.K. finally bent to the pressure. High ranking ruling class signaled compromise. Queen Elizabeth visited Washington.
7/7, “Queen Elizabeth addresses U.N. for first time since 1957
By Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 7, 2010
Queen Elizabeth addresses U.N. for first time since 1957 “
Deal was made. Extortion stopped.
7/15, “BP says oil has stopped leaking into Gulf of Mexico
The well has been sealed for the first time since April, using a cap which engineers are now monitoring to see if it holds
David Batty and agencies
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 July 2010 “
Secret deal was confirmed. U.K. will join the war on Iran.
7/21, “ U.K. - U.S. relationship thaws
By Helene Cooper
New York Times
Washington - It was not quite the Tony Blair-Bill Clinton love fest of 1997, but President Barack Obama and the newly minted British prime minister, David Cameron, appeared game to do everything they could Tuesday to take some of the recent chill out of the relationship between their countries. “
Cameron will follow its predecessor to help the U.S. to continue its “war on terror” in Mid-east. Interesting thing is the media even dare not to say Tony Blair- George Bush love fest but replaced it with Bill Clinton because that would otherwise reveal its attention - Cameron would join Obama in War on Iran, just like Blair joined Bush in War on Iraq.
given that BP is not in danger financially due to the oil spill,
given that a Conservative led government is unlikely to change government policy to bail out a non-essential multi-national,
given that the UK does not have the military capacity for another war,
given that the coalition would collapse before it could order such a war,
given that any government ordering such a war would do so knowing it would never see power again,
nah - don't think so :yh_rotfl
Reluctant reason. The development is in another way.
U.K. kneeling down (10/4/2010)
BP oil rig in Gulf was damaged in April 20, 2010. I alleged it was sabotage because big heads all knew in advance. Goldman Sachs, BP’s Chief all sold their BP stocks days before the case broken. Halliburton also bought an oil clean-up company just a week before the rig collapsing. Everything follows the steps of 911 sabotage when there was a “Bin Laden trading” of stock which made money on the coming 911 attack. The insiders are experts to take advantage on their plot.
BP was not able to stop the oil leaking in following month. The pressure increased on U.K.. Watch the time table:
6/12, “ UK PM to visit Washington next month |
Reuters
Sat, Jun 12 . Obama tells Britain: BP must pay economic claims
UK PM Cameron to visit Washington next month | Reuters “
U.K. finally bent to the pressure. High ranking ruling class signaled compromise. Queen Elizabeth visited Washington.
7/7, “Queen Elizabeth addresses U.N. for first time since 1957
By Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 7, 2010
Queen Elizabeth addresses U.N. for first time since 1957 “
Deal was made. Extortion stopped.
7/15, “BP says oil has stopped leaking into Gulf of Mexico
The well has been sealed for the first time since April, using a cap which engineers are now monitoring to see if it holds
David Batty and agencies
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 July 2010 “
Secret deal was confirmed. U.K. will join the war on Iran.
7/21, “ U.K. - U.S. relationship thaws
By Helene Cooper
New York Times
Washington - It was not quite the Tony Blair-Bill Clinton love fest of 1997, but President Barack Obama and the newly minted British prime minister, David Cameron, appeared game to do everything they could Tuesday to take some of the recent chill out of the relationship between their countries. “
Cameron will follow its predecessor to help the U.S. to continue its “war on terror” in Mid-east. Interesting thing is the media even dare not to say Tony Blair- George Bush love fest but replaced it with Bill Clinton because that would otherwise reveal its attention - Cameron would join Obama in War on Iran, just like Blair joined Bush in War on Iraq.
So, who's the real enemy?
kathaksung;1340477 wrote: Reluctant reason. The development is in another way.
U.K. kneeling down (10/4/2010)
BP oil rig in Gulf was damaged in April 20, 2010. I alleged it was sabotage because big heads all knew in advance. Goldman Sachs, BP’s Chief all sold their BP stocks days before the case broken. Halliburton also bought an oil clean-up company just a week before the rig collapsing. Everything follows the steps of 911 sabotage when there was a “Bin Laden trading” of stock which made money on the coming 911 attack. The insiders are experts to take advantage on their plot.
BP was not able to stop the oil leaking in following month. The pressure increased on U.K.. Watch the time table:
6/12, “ “
U.K. finally bent to the pressure. High ranking ruling class signaled compromise. Queen Elizabeth visited Washington.
7/7,
Deal was made. Extortion stopped.
7/15,
Secret deal was confirmed. U.K. will join the war on Iran.
7/21, “
Cameron will follow its predecessor to help the U.S. to continue its “war on terror” in Mid-east. Interesting thing is the media even dare not to say Tony Blair- George Bush love fest but replaced it with Bill Clinton because that would otherwise reveal its attention - Cameron would join Obama in War on Iran, just like Blair joined Bush in War on Iraq.
When it happens, come back and tell me you told me so.
The Americans might just be that daft although I doubt it but, as the Rolling Stones said, we won't get fooled again - at least, not anytime soon.
U.K. kneeling down (10/4/2010)
BP oil rig in Gulf was damaged in April 20, 2010. I alleged it was sabotage because big heads all knew in advance. Goldman Sachs, BP’s Chief all sold their BP stocks days before the case broken. Halliburton also bought an oil clean-up company just a week before the rig collapsing. Everything follows the steps of 911 sabotage when there was a “Bin Laden trading” of stock which made money on the coming 911 attack. The insiders are experts to take advantage on their plot.
BP was not able to stop the oil leaking in following month. The pressure increased on U.K.. Watch the time table:
6/12, “ “
U.K. finally bent to the pressure. High ranking ruling class signaled compromise. Queen Elizabeth visited Washington.
7/7,
Deal was made. Extortion stopped.
7/15,
Secret deal was confirmed. U.K. will join the war on Iran.
7/21, “
Cameron will follow its predecessor to help the U.S. to continue its “war on terror” in Mid-east. Interesting thing is the media even dare not to say Tony Blair- George Bush love fest but replaced it with Bill Clinton because that would otherwise reveal its attention - Cameron would join Obama in War on Iran, just like Blair joined Bush in War on Iraq.
When it happens, come back and tell me you told me so.
The Americans might just be that daft although I doubt it but, as the Rolling Stones said, we won't get fooled again - at least, not anytime soon.
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Bryn Mawr;1340831 wrote: When it happens, come back and tell me you told me so.
The Americans might just be that daft although I doubt it but, as the Rolling Stones said, we won't get fooled again - at least, not anytime soon.
When it happens, it's too late.
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It is through these CEO, Feds rule this country. That's why these CEO can always harvest fat bonus and pension, despite it's good year or bad one. Even the company is bankrupted, they left with a full pocket. When they were ousted from a company, they just get another CEO job in a different firm. Because they work for the interest of the ruling class, not for the interest of small share holders or company employers. And those CEO agents now are pushed to take the seats to run the government. The typical representatives we see: Bloomburg, Meg Whitman, Fiorina.....
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill
The chief executive of BP sold ￡1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.
By Jon Swaine and Robert Winnett
Published: 12:10AM BST 05 Jun 2010
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill - Telegraph
The Americans might just be that daft although I doubt it but, as the Rolling Stones said, we won't get fooled again - at least, not anytime soon.
When it happens, it's too late.
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It is through these CEO, Feds rule this country. That's why these CEO can always harvest fat bonus and pension, despite it's good year or bad one. Even the company is bankrupted, they left with a full pocket. When they were ousted from a company, they just get another CEO job in a different firm. Because they work for the interest of the ruling class, not for the interest of small share holders or company employers. And those CEO agents now are pushed to take the seats to run the government. The typical representatives we see: Bloomburg, Meg Whitman, Fiorina.....
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill
The chief executive of BP sold ￡1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.
By Jon Swaine and Robert Winnett
Published: 12:10AM BST 05 Jun 2010
BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill - Telegraph
So, who's the real enemy?
kathaksung;1343215 wrote: When it happens, it's too late.
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It is through these CEO, Feds rule this country. That's why these CEO can always harvest fat bonus and pension, despite it's good year or bad one. Even the company is bankrupted, they left with a full pocket. When they were ousted from a company, they just get another CEO job in a different firm. Because they work for the interest of the ruling class, not for the interest of small share holders or company employers. And those CEO agents now are pushed to take the seats to run the government. The typical representatives we see: Bloomburg, Meg Whitman, Fiorina.....
You missed the sub-text - it won't be too late because it won't happen.
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It is through these CEO, Feds rule this country. That's why these CEO can always harvest fat bonus and pension, despite it's good year or bad one. Even the company is bankrupted, they left with a full pocket. When they were ousted from a company, they just get another CEO job in a different firm. Because they work for the interest of the ruling class, not for the interest of small share holders or company employers. And those CEO agents now are pushed to take the seats to run the government. The typical representatives we see: Bloomburg, Meg Whitman, Fiorina.....
You missed the sub-text - it won't be too late because it won't happen.
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Bryn Mawr;1343244 wrote: You missed the sub-text - it won't be too late because it won't happen.
Did you say same thing before Bush invades Iraq?
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I wrote about those CEO eight years ago.
57. FBI's interest
On Jan. 31, 2001,(the first wave of attack on my thread) one web site I failed to post was Foxnews.com. It's a big firm. So the level of moderator was high too, I suppose. Perhaps they were unwilling to shut down my thread without proper reason. They simply shut down the forum. A message said that "If you are looking for the Foxnews.com and Fox News Channel community message boards, they have been temporarily disabled while we build a new and easier to use format. We'll have them up and running again as soon as we can." This is obviously cover words. The format they had used was a good one which is using now by big firm such like WashingtonPost.com, ..... The promised 'new and easier to use format' never come true. From time to time I went there, found the page of 'temporarily shut down' was still the same, with threads posted on last day (dated Jan. 31) laying there, showed shut down took place abruptly.
Shut down a prosperous message board was by no means an insignificant event. It hurt Fox's fame and popularity. The decision must be from top ranking. It also helped me to strengthen a belief of how FBI control this country.
I learnt that Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. He died in 1960's. I think there were many VIP informant like him worked for FBI. In early 1990, I believe a helicopter accident was a result of a conspiracy of selection for CEO of Disneyland. I had a puzzle then. Whoever selected a CEO would be co-operate with FBI. Why did they select with violence? Unless they needed one whom was more than an informant, that was, a candidate of their own. Walt Disney was an informant, but once he was required to do something which was conflict to the interest of Disneyland, what would he do? He might choose to protect the interest of Disneyland.
HP and Compaq's emerge is a good example of the difference of a CEO and an owner (I can't find proper word for it. I mean someone who has real interest in business.) HP CEO Fiorina proposed to emerge with Compaq, HP heir Hewlett opposes the deal. Fiorina wants to make HP the biggest PC manufacturer. Hewlett think it's too risk to emerge with a rotten business. I think Hewlett is real care for HP's interest. That's because he has big financial interest in HP. (18% of HP's stock) And he has personal feeling on HP. It's a company set up by his father. Same thing like W. Disney to Disneyland. If the deal is a failure, CEO's loss will be much less than him. And she may become a CEO of another big firm.
Through Disneyland's story, I have a feeling that 40 years ago, FBI got VIP of big firm as their informant. 30 years later, they are not satisfy with this, they need a representative of their own interest.
(I have no intention to link HP and Compaq's emerge with FBI at all. It's different from the shut down of message board of Foxnews. I only use it as reference to show that CEO's decision could hurt the company they work for. )
83. Spy country (8/21)
When I started my thread in internet, a message told me, the content of " The newspaper titled: " Heroin bust called U.S. record".(See San Jose Mercury, 6-22-1991)." is a day off...
Quote, "You cited the wrong date! Although the rest of your newspaper and highway information (in Bay Area holds up). "
He gave me an URL to check:
http://nl13.newsbank.com/nlsite/region_ ... search.htm
I thus knew my article was under scrutiny. I live in San Jose. I read San Jose Mercury News. Most news reference were from it.
Some people doubted that when I said Walt Disney was an informant. (#29. "I'm you, American")
Question, quote, "What was Walt informing on? Mickey's communist ties? Goofy's drug problems? Minnie's prostitution busts? "
With above URL, choose S.J.M.N, with appropriate key words and time, you can find news I referred.
Quote,"But most disturbing,....is the allegation that Disney was an FBI informant, recruited by J. Edgar Hoover to snitch on employees and Hollywood colleagues in exchange for favors....."
See whole story in "THE AUTHOR WAS WALT DISNEY A WICKED WITCH? OR IS THIS MAN GOOFY?" San Jose Mercury News, 8/1/1993.
In Chinese newspaper "World Journal"(5/7/93, page 3A) talked about this too. W.Disney was FBI's informant from 1940 to 1966 when he passed away. It also talked about former President Ronno Reagan was a FBI informant, code 'T-10', when he was president of Actor and Actress Association(translation) in 1947.
Are these the only informants FBI have had? Of course not. FBI titled W. Disney "Full Special Agent in Charge Contact" in 1954. It's 50 years passed, a net of surveillance should have been developed already. And in addition to this informant net, we can see there is another army of FBI: retired FBI. They are still the eye and ear and hand of the Bureau. And they used to occupy important position. Such like Ornell, who became Chief in charge of security of WTC after retirement. Still they say they are outnumbered in war on terror. They want recruit one million more TIPS. A spy country that Gestapo and KGB have ever dreamed of. A monstrous power that almost equal to Defense Department. But it's not used to defend US citizens, it's used to spy on them.
Did you say same thing before Bush invades Iraq?
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I wrote about those CEO eight years ago.
57. FBI's interest
On Jan. 31, 2001,(the first wave of attack on my thread) one web site I failed to post was Foxnews.com. It's a big firm. So the level of moderator was high too, I suppose. Perhaps they were unwilling to shut down my thread without proper reason. They simply shut down the forum. A message said that "If you are looking for the Foxnews.com and Fox News Channel community message boards, they have been temporarily disabled while we build a new and easier to use format. We'll have them up and running again as soon as we can." This is obviously cover words. The format they had used was a good one which is using now by big firm such like WashingtonPost.com, ..... The promised 'new and easier to use format' never come true. From time to time I went there, found the page of 'temporarily shut down' was still the same, with threads posted on last day (dated Jan. 31) laying there, showed shut down took place abruptly.
Shut down a prosperous message board was by no means an insignificant event. It hurt Fox's fame and popularity. The decision must be from top ranking. It also helped me to strengthen a belief of how FBI control this country.
I learnt that Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. He died in 1960's. I think there were many VIP informant like him worked for FBI. In early 1990, I believe a helicopter accident was a result of a conspiracy of selection for CEO of Disneyland. I had a puzzle then. Whoever selected a CEO would be co-operate with FBI. Why did they select with violence? Unless they needed one whom was more than an informant, that was, a candidate of their own. Walt Disney was an informant, but once he was required to do something which was conflict to the interest of Disneyland, what would he do? He might choose to protect the interest of Disneyland.
HP and Compaq's emerge is a good example of the difference of a CEO and an owner (I can't find proper word for it. I mean someone who has real interest in business.) HP CEO Fiorina proposed to emerge with Compaq, HP heir Hewlett opposes the deal. Fiorina wants to make HP the biggest PC manufacturer. Hewlett think it's too risk to emerge with a rotten business. I think Hewlett is real care for HP's interest. That's because he has big financial interest in HP. (18% of HP's stock) And he has personal feeling on HP. It's a company set up by his father. Same thing like W. Disney to Disneyland. If the deal is a failure, CEO's loss will be much less than him. And she may become a CEO of another big firm.
Through Disneyland's story, I have a feeling that 40 years ago, FBI got VIP of big firm as their informant. 30 years later, they are not satisfy with this, they need a representative of their own interest.
(I have no intention to link HP and Compaq's emerge with FBI at all. It's different from the shut down of message board of Foxnews. I only use it as reference to show that CEO's decision could hurt the company they work for. )
83. Spy country (8/21)
When I started my thread in internet, a message told me, the content of " The newspaper titled: " Heroin bust called U.S. record".(See San Jose Mercury, 6-22-1991)." is a day off...
Quote, "You cited the wrong date! Although the rest of your newspaper and highway information (in Bay Area holds up). "
He gave me an URL to check:
http://nl13.newsbank.com/nlsite/region_ ... search.htm
I thus knew my article was under scrutiny. I live in San Jose. I read San Jose Mercury News. Most news reference were from it.
Some people doubted that when I said Walt Disney was an informant. (#29. "I'm you, American")
Question, quote, "What was Walt informing on? Mickey's communist ties? Goofy's drug problems? Minnie's prostitution busts? "
With above URL, choose S.J.M.N, with appropriate key words and time, you can find news I referred.
Quote,"But most disturbing,....is the allegation that Disney was an FBI informant, recruited by J. Edgar Hoover to snitch on employees and Hollywood colleagues in exchange for favors....."
See whole story in "THE AUTHOR WAS WALT DISNEY A WICKED WITCH? OR IS THIS MAN GOOFY?" San Jose Mercury News, 8/1/1993.
In Chinese newspaper "World Journal"(5/7/93, page 3A) talked about this too. W.Disney was FBI's informant from 1940 to 1966 when he passed away. It also talked about former President Ronno Reagan was a FBI informant, code 'T-10', when he was president of Actor and Actress Association(translation) in 1947.
Are these the only informants FBI have had? Of course not. FBI titled W. Disney "Full Special Agent in Charge Contact" in 1954. It's 50 years passed, a net of surveillance should have been developed already. And in addition to this informant net, we can see there is another army of FBI: retired FBI. They are still the eye and ear and hand of the Bureau. And they used to occupy important position. Such like Ornell, who became Chief in charge of security of WTC after retirement. Still they say they are outnumbered in war on terror. They want recruit one million more TIPS. A spy country that Gestapo and KGB have ever dreamed of. A monstrous power that almost equal to Defense Department. But it's not used to defend US citizens, it's used to spy on them.
So, who's the real enemy?
kathaksung;1345338 wrote: Did you say same thing before Bush invades Iraq?
No, I said it will happen because they (Bush and Blair) are determined to make it happen.
I also said it would be a war crime when it did.
No, I said it will happen because they (Bush and Blair) are determined to make it happen.
I also said it would be a war crime when it did.
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So, who's the real enemy?
Quote, "With help from the 'publicans - BP might not have to pay $$$
U.S. District Judge Carl J. Barbier, who's presiding over the more than 300 consolidated lawsuits against the company, was taken aback when BP attorney Don Haycraft floated the idea of the liability cap. Barbier replied simply that "BP said it would pay whatever [is] necessary." Steven Herman, a plaintiffs attorney in the case, also registered surprise. "We're shocked over here to hear the defendants now bring up this $75 million cap," he said. "We were under the impression it was waived."
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Congress passed the Oil Pollution Act in 1990 in the wake of the Exxon Valdez spill. Under the law's provisions, BP is liable for all cleanup related costs but can't be compelled to pay anything above the $75 million ceiling in damage claims arising from the spill. Some lawmakers (Democrats) tried to raise the cap retroactively to $10 billion, but Senate 'publicans blocked those efforts.
BP attorney suggests that the oil giant might seek to cap spill claims at $75 million | The Upshot Yahoo! News
U.S. District Judge Carl J. Barbier, who's presiding over the more than 300 consolidated lawsuits against the company, was taken aback when BP attorney Don Haycraft floated the idea of the liability cap. Barbier replied simply that "BP said it would pay whatever [is] necessary." Steven Herman, a plaintiffs attorney in the case, also registered surprise. "We're shocked over here to hear the defendants now bring up this $75 million cap," he said. "We were under the impression it was waived."
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Congress passed the Oil Pollution Act in 1990 in the wake of the Exxon Valdez spill. Under the law's provisions, BP is liable for all cleanup related costs but can't be compelled to pay anything above the $75 million ceiling in damage claims arising from the spill. Some lawmakers (Democrats) tried to raise the cap retroactively to $10 billion, but Senate 'publicans blocked those efforts.
BP attorney suggests that the oil giant might seek to cap spill claims at $75 million | The Upshot Yahoo! News