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hoppy · Post by **hoppy** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:24 am

BP Gulf Oil Spill Photos Show What BP Doesn't Want You To See, The Real Reason Constitution Has Been Suspended | Alexander Higgins Blog

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:35 am

Horrific.

These are images the world should be seeing.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:03 am

Oil Spill: Coast Guard Lifts Ban Restricting Journalists Near Booms

sounds like they were being kept 65 feet away from the boom? because vital equipment was being damaged? where is that part of the story? someone damaging cleanup equip would be a paper seller here.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:04 am

hoppy;1321937 wrote: BP Gulf Oil Spill Photos Show What BP Doesn't Want You To See, The Real Reason Constitution Has Been Suspended | Alexander Higgins Blog

can't imagine why they don't want the world to see these?:-5

just disastrous and horrific.:rolleyes:

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:48 am

hoppy;1321937 wrote: BP Gulf Oil Spill Photos Show What BP Doesn't Want You To See, The Real Reason Constitution Has Been Suspended | Alexander Higgins Blog

Those photos are so horrible!! Nomad is right--the world needs to see the horror that the spill has caused.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:17 am

And what makes me unhappy is that the Coast Guard has been under the control and command of BP. Since when do Multi-National Corporations control the Armed Service Branches of the United States? Oh... (Insert snide remark here.)

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:41 am

Tombstone;1321965 wrote: And what makes me unhappy is that the Coast Guard has been under the control and command of BP. Since when do Multi-National Corporations control the Armed Service Branches of the United States? Oh... (Insert snide remark here.)This comment is of course suggesting that Obama has given BP control of the armed forces. Where did you get this information? It contradicts everything the coast guard has said. Have any credible links?

That said, why would anyone be surprised that multi national corporations and even other nations (Israel) actually run this government. Isn't that exactly what conservatives have been "praying" for all these years? They've had their "prayers" answered.

Now that conservatives are beginning to witness the consequences of what they've been buying into, they don't like it and are now deciding to become "independent". I guess thats a start, but now they need to cease reading the conservative bullsh!t they've been feeding themselves.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:45 am

hoppy;1321937 wrote: BP Gulf Oil Spill Photos Show What BP Doesn't Want You To See, The Real Reason Constitution Has Been Suspended | Alexander Higgins Blog

This is truly awful Hoppy......made me cry.

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:46 am

Ahso!;1321970 wrote: This comment is of course suggesting that Obama has given BP control of the armed forces. Where did you get this information? It contradicts everything the coast guard has said. Have any credible links?

That said, why would anyone be surprised that multi national corporations and even other nations (Israel) actually run this government. Isn't that exactly what conservatives have been "praying" for all these years? They've had their "prayers" answered.

Now that conservatives are beginning to witness the consequences of what they've been buying into, they don't like it and are now deciding to become "independent". I guess thats a start, but now they need to cease reading the conservative bullsh!t they've been feeding themselves.

Oh my. Just spend 15 seconds and google this topic. I'm surprised you didn't know about this since even the MSM reported it. Here are a couple of examples:

After blocking CBS crew, Coast Guard denies ‘BP rules’ | Raw Story

BP, Coast Guard Officers Block Journalists From Filming Oil-Covered Beach (VIDEO)

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:55 am

That is appalling!!

Tombstone · Post by **Tombstone** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:57 am

Ahso!;1321970 wrote: This comment is of course suggesting that Obama has given BP control of the armed forces. Where did you get this information? It contradicts everything the coast guard has said. Have any credible links?

Since you think conservative values are b*llshit, then let me ask you when/what have you ever worked with the Government? Been in the service? Ever acted as a contractor for Uncle Sam? The Service Branches? Your comments tell me that you haven't.

Of course the CG denies. There's a big difference between tactical ops and strategic ops.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:37 am

I find it remarkable that CBS would accept such a statement and not proceed with their exploration. Be arrested on what charge? On what authority does BP have regarding citizens or the media observing? This is BP's rules...thats absurd !

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:44 am

Tombstone;1321973 wrote: Oh my. Just spend 15 seconds and google this topic. I'm surprised you didn't know about this since even the MSM reported it. Here are a couple of examples:

After blocking CBS crew, Coast Guard denies ‘BP rules’ | Raw Story

BP, Coast Guard Officers Block Journalists From Filming Oil-Covered Beach (VIDEO)I've seen both of those stories but how does that translate into " Since when do Multi-National Corporations control the Armed Service Branches of the United States?"? They don't, but both the CG and BP are most likely doing what they can to work together to control a bad situation. I'd hesitate describing cooperation between the two as BP taking over the military. Your partisan bias is evident in your original post.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:55 am

Tombstone;1321976 wrote: Since you think conservative values are b*llshit, then let me ask you when/what have you ever worked with the Government? Been in the service? Ever acted as a contractor for Uncle Sam? The Service Branches? Your comments tell me that you haven't.

Of course the CG denies. There's a big difference between tactical ops and strategic ops.I didn't say conservative values are bullsh!t, I said they have to stop reading the bullsh!t they've been feeding themselves if they ever want to truly wash themselves clean of the stench of this current form of conservatism which is divisive and abrasive.

I served in the Navy from 74-77. In fact I have a photo laying around the house somewhere of me as an 18 year old sailor shaking hands with then Navy Secretary - now retired senator John Warner

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:35 pm

FirstAhso!;1321970 wrote: Isn't that exactly what conservatives have been "praying" for all these years? They've had their "prayers" answered. ... and then

Ahso!;1321987 wrote: Your partisan bias is evident in your original post.
Ever get hemorrhoids talking like that?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:39 pm

Accountable;1322016 wrote: ...squeak...

What makes you think I try to disguise my disdain for this current form of conservatism? Isn't there another thread where someone has asked you to be 'accountable'?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:39 pm

Nomad;1321938 wrote: Horrific.

These are images the world should be seeing.
I'm surprised they're not at least making local news. I haven't heard anything about pictures like that here. Anybody closer to the action?

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:12 am

Accountable;1322019 wrote: I'm surprised they're not at least making local news. I haven't heard anything about pictures like that here. Anybody closer to the action?

The photos are out there. They cant be stopped and if BP is doing damage control the reverse effect is happening because trying to pretend its not as bad as it really is and strong arming witnesses is repulsive. Calling it anything other than a major **** up and owning up to it is not even deceptive but ludicrous.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:50 am

Nomad;1322101 wrote: The photos are out there. They cant be stopped and if BP is doing damage control the reverse effect is happening because trying to pretend its not as bad as it really is and strong arming witnesses is repulsive. Calling it anything other than a major **** up and owning up to it is not even deceptive but ludicrous.
No doubt. What I guess I'm trying to find out is how much control do BP and BO have over local media on the Gulf Coast.

eta: You notice that we don't hear anything about Bobby Gindal lately?

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:25 am

Just to fan the flames,

Here is the info on the main dispersants being used by the oil company.

Here is the MSDS for Corexit

They are killing my Gulf.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:53 am

LarsMac;1322140 wrote: Just to fan the flames,

Here is the info on the main dispersants being used by the oil company.

Here is the MSDS for Corexit

They are killing my Gulf.Corporate America will kill everything if we let it.

Conservatives and Libertarian and tea-baggers want small government or even no government at all. Well, ineffective government is not a whole lot different than what they've asked for. Now they want to know why the government is not doing a good enough job for them. The fact is that BP would have probably walked away from this entire mess without the government forcing them to take responsibility.

This is a small sample of what these people are asking for and they don't like it much.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:50 pm

Everything in moderation. Things always balance out. Everyone gets a chance to gloat and everyone gets a chance to whine.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:19 pm

Nomad;1322171 wrote: Everything in moderation. Things always balance out. Everyone gets a chance to gloat and everyone gets a chance to whine.You consider the state of our present condition of existece a good balance? I don't.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:23 pm

In time it will balance the other way. Thats how it is. Half the country is in an uproar on one side or the other at all times. Thats the balance, it teeters and it totters.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:32 pm

Nomad;1322175 wrote: In time it will balance the other way. Thats how it is. Half the country is in an uproar on one side or the other at all times. Thats the balance, it teeters and it totters.Well yes, on this issue the emotions will subside, but I was addressing your overall view that things balance out. When one considers overpopulation, pollution, war, inhumane treatment of other species and disregard of the planet as a whole, I disagree with the statement of thing balancing out. They don't, we just get use to and learn to accept our ravaging, neglect and complete disrespect for life and proper balance.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:45 pm

Nomad;1322171 wrote: Everything in moderation. Things always balance out. Everyone gets a chance to gloat and everyone gets a chance to whine.

Nomad;1322175 wrote: In time it will balance the other way. Thats how it is. Half the country is in an uproar on one side or the other at all times. Thats the balance, it teeters and it totters.
It teeters while the left grab power, it totters while the right grab power. Things are not balancing out because nobody gives any power back.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:05 am

I just spent the last half hr. constructing a reply only to have some strange screen pop up and erase my words.

As much as I wish I could I cant change what took place.

In essence that was the meat of my reply.

*@!

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:44 am

It looks like this oil leak is finally under control and I hope it remains that way.

Now we can all get back to slaughtering the wildlife down in that part of the country for the right reasons of profit and sport instead of by accident where nobody but the oil industry and the media alone reap the benefits.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:47 am

Ahso!;1322234 wrote: Now we can all get back to slaughtering the wildlife down in that part of the country for the right reasons

Thumbs up on that !