Ethical Question

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:01 am

Someone you love is brutally murdered. The murderer is acquitted of the crime. Would you seek revenge ?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:05 am

you better believe it.

venus · Post by **venus** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:08 am

I have to admit l would hunt them down and kill them.

It is the one time when l would gladly go to jail, to protect my loved ones or get them justice.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:33 am

Hypothetically speaking, Koan, and assuming I knew beyond doubt that the acquitted on was indeed the guilty party, yup.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:03 am

yes !

actionfigurestepho · Post by **actionfigurestepho** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:09 am

Oh yeah.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:38 am

Great questions.

I don't know. I would want to. There was a time in my life when they would be considering themselves lucky that they made it to trial. Now, I would be doing it against what I believe and my better judgement but I might anyway. :-3

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:26 pm

posted by Nomad

Someone you love is brutally murdered. The murderer is acquitted of the crime. Would you seek revenge ?

Don't know what I would do. But if he was acquitted does that not rather suggest you would be killing an innocent person?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:42 pm

gmc wrote: posted by Nomad

Don't know what I would do. But if he was acquitted does that not rather suggest you would be killing an innocent person?an acquital does not equate with 'innocent'...it's more like your 'not proven', i suppose the thread premise is you are sure they did the deed.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:06 pm

Nomad, my brother-in-law was murdered back in the 1980s, an intruder came into the house while he was asleep. My sister woke up, the intruder confronted her, she screamed, and my brother-in-law came out of the bedroom to defend her. He was stabbed through the heart with his own kitchen knife hanging on the wall. He died later at the hospital while I was there-I saw and heard him go to his reward, but maybe one day I will post that story on the thread Life After Death.

I daunted the courtroom every step of the trial, and was the only one to stand up and speak against the murderer before conviction. The judge even admonished me for being too harsh, that I wanted him sentenced to life without parole!

The murderer got 3 1/2 years in jail, and was paroled.

Revenge-how can revenge bring my brother-in-law back, who now rests in the Hands of God? I can understand anyone who says they would take revenge, because justice is not fair. I just believe that God will exact revenge in His due time on murderers, and I know where my brother-in-law went, and hope to one day go myself.

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:48 pm

Without a doubt, no hesitation !!! But in a slow, painful manner, nothing quick & easy!!! :-5

CountryDweller · Post by **CountryDweller** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:08 pm

ABSOLUTELY!!!! And I would drag out his pain for days.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:20 pm

Nomad wrote: Someone you love is brutally murdered. The murderer is acquitted of the crime. Would you seek revenge ?

I would take my time and plan my revenge very carefully so as to insure it's success and my not being caught. My revenge might not be of a physical nature.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:05 pm

I'm certain anyone who's been here for more than 3 days knows my answer on this one.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:13 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Nomad, my brother-in-law was murdered back in the 1980s, an intruder came into the house while he was asleep. My sister woke up, the intruder confronted her, she screamed, and my brother-in-law came out of the bedroom to defend her. He was stabbed through the heart with his own kitchen knife hanging on the wall. He died later at the hospital while I was there-I saw and heard him go to his reward, but maybe one day I will post that story on the thread Life After Death.

I daunted the courtroom every step of the trial, and was the only one to stand up and speak against the murderer before conviction. The judge even admonished me for being too harsh, that I wanted him sentenced to life without parole!

The murderer got 3 1/2 years in jail, and was paroled.

Revenge-how can revenge bring my brother-in-law back, who now rests in the Hands of God? I can understand anyone who says they would take revenge, because justice is not fair. I just believe that God will exact revenge in His due time on murderers, and I know where my brother-in-law went, and hope to one day go myself.

Why did he only get 3 1/2 yrs bunny ? Your not telling something.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:29 pm

This was in California, he copped a plea, got 7 years, which was cut in half for good behavior! He was also wanted on grand theft auto-they dropped that charge for the plea. The murder charge went down to voluntary manslaughter-and that was the sentence.

They never took into consideration some other details I did not add-my niece and nephew witnessed the whole incident, they tried to kidnap my niece, had her in their car and were taking off when my step-father showed up with a shotgun-they lived down the street. He yanked my niece out of the car as they sped off. That is what the judge admonished me for-I brought up the kidnapping! And the murderer's mother had already put in a good word about him-like, oh brother. Well phooey on them, they should have charged him with it!

Nomad, some states do not have high penalties for cases like this..........this was prior to the 3 strikes law and the crack down on easy time for criminals.

The case prior to this one-since I watched them all daily, with the same lawyer, was vehicular manslaughter. The woman was drunk, hit and killed a college student crossing the street. She got 1 year probation. The victim's family was devastated at that ruling.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:32 pm

That ****ing nauseates me.

hotsauce · Post by **hotsauce** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:34 pm

without question...i would make it slow and painful!

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:38 pm

i find it interesting that some who would refuse to witness an execution in the 'execute him' thread would themselves commit murder to avenge a loved one. it goes to show the mixed feelings we all have as human beings.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:41 pm

Good eye deyective !

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:44 pm

Nomad wrote: Good eye deyective !they don't call me 'clouseau' for nothing! :wah:

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:00 pm

Ummm sweetie (thats not good) :wah:

cars · Post by **cars** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:08 pm

lady cop wrote: i find it interesting that some who would refuse to witness an execution in the 'execute him' thread would themselves commit murder to avenge a loved one. it goes to show the mixed feelings we all have as human beings.

No not really mixed feelings. If someone brutally murdered my loved one, I then would become deranged & would carry out my deranged feelings! So hopefully not being deranged at this point in time, and not having deranged feelings, I would choose not to watch the excicution. Mainly because it's not that important to me, & I don't care!

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:48 pm

There would be no place for him or her to hide, I would hunt them down and kill them no question. Then I would turn myself in.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:31 am

Someone you love is brutally murdered. The murderer is acquitted of the crime. Would you seek revenge ?

Oh hell yeah. IF I chose to let them live long enough to have a trial.

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:32 am

Accountable wrote: Hypothetically speaking, Koan, and assuming I knew beyond doubt that the acquitted on was indeed the guilty party, yup.
Koan?

PurpleChicken · Post by **PurpleChicken** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:38 am

I would definitely feel like seeking revenge. Not sure that I would do it though. Probably would depend on circumstance. I imagine if I was there, rage would take hold and would seek immediate revenge. But I'm not normally a violent or even a confrontational person, so would seek my revenge by working my hardest to get the person convicted....One of those things though - hard to say until you're in that circumstance.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:59 am

Peg wrote: Koan?

Just a little jab.

She'd always put forward questions without ever stating her own opinion.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:32 am

If someone killed a loved one and were acquitted Im not sure Id be able to kill them. I would however dedicate my life to making theirs a living hell. Tangible things, my presence would be apparent and constant.

Yet at the same time Im writing this Im thinking how would it feel to lose myself over this person. Id already be torn up and whatever is left Id be giving to him. Id have to be in that position, to know how I would react. Thats an honest answer.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:45 am

I dont believe in the adage "An eye for an eye".

I could never take another persons life, no matter what the circumstances.

LottomagicZ4941 · Post by **LottomagicZ4941** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:55 am

Well they never had enough evidence to take the guy to court. Might have killed him if I had run into him at the time. There is a small chance Tina is still alive and just hidding out from the turd that she married.

Technically vengence is the Lords so probably doing the right thing not hunting the turd down.

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Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:58 am

Im sorry.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:20 am

abbey wrote: I dont believe in the adage "An eye for an eye".

I could never take another persons life, no matter what the circumstances.
and that reflects who you are and why we love you. Don't change a thing. :-6

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:22 am

Accountable wrote: and that reflects who you are and why we love you. Don't change a thing. :-6I've been feeling a little low today and you just made me cry, you git!

Thankyou x

pina · Post by **pina** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:28 am

Are you OK Abbey.....we don't want you to cry you know we all love you loads.

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:02 am

pina wrote: Are you OK Abbey.....we don't want you to cry you know we all love you loads.Bless you Pina, just Sunday afternoon blues! :-1

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:06 am

abbey wrote: Bless you Pina, just Sunday afternoon blues! :-1
Come on to the Pub. I'll bring my harmonica.

pina · Post by **pina** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:14 am

Cheer up Abbey the day is nearly over, then you can have the Monday morning blues.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:15 am

pina wrote: Cheer up Abbey the day is nearly over, then you can have the Monday morning blues.
:wah: I just love humor.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:33 am

I've been feeling a little low today and you just made me cry, you git!

You should apologize acc