Barack Janet are making me really safe. . . . .

cars · Post by **cars** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:06 pm

They just proived it, click link to see how!!!

snopes.com: Muslims Appointed to Department of Homeland Security?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:14 pm

And Timothy Mcveigh was a Christian. So where does that leave us?

CinnamonBear · Post by **CinnamonBear** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:26 pm

What we're seeing, cars, is the Muslim president in action. I have a timeline of O's Islam progression on America which I was going to post but realized this wasn't the forum to do so. Wasted energy - but kudos on you for posting facts, even if I'm the only one who appreciates it.

Remember too, facts aren't always welcome in certain arenas. That's OK, it will surface sooner or later and sometimes the hard way for those in denial.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:30 pm

I'm sure it does increase the safety of Americans to show that they are not prejudiced and allow equal opportunity without religious discrimination.

How safe is a country with a meaningless Constitution?

CinnamonBear · Post by **CinnamonBear** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:33 pm

koan;1338597 wrote: I'm sure it does increase the safety of Americans to show that they are not prejudiced and allow equal opportunity without religious discrimination.

How safe is a country with a meaningless Constitution?

That's what the KKK says too and we don't acknowledge it because they are a group of hate, just like the muslims. Briefly stating.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:41 pm

CinnamonBear;1338598 wrote: That's what the KKK says too and we don't acknowledge it because they are a group of hate, just like the muslims. Briefly stating.

Do you actually know any Muslims?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:41 pm

CinnamonBear;1338598 wrote: That's what the KKK says too and we don't acknowledge it because they are a group of hate, just like the muslims. Briefly stating.The KKK is a Christian organization too, aren't they?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:43 pm

If you wish to know how Muslims are likely to react in any given circumstance do you ask a fundamentalist Christian or a Muslim?

Who better to choose as an advisor than a Muslim who has proven himself with extensive experience of working in Homeland Security at the state level?

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:43 pm

CinnamonBear;1338595 wrote: What we're seeing, cars, is the Muslim president in action. I have a timeline of O's Islam progression on America which I was going to post but realized this wasn't the forum to do so. Wasted energy - but kudos on you for posting facts, even if I'm the only one who appreciates it.

Remember too, facts aren't always welcome in certain arenas. That's OK, it will surface sooner or later and sometimes the hard way for those in denial. :)I'll go run and see if you'd replied to my earlier question toward you before I repeat what I'd said and asked, one sec

CinnamonBear · Post by **CinnamonBear** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:02 pm

Ahso!;1338600 wrote: The KKK is a Christian organization too, aren't they?

No.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:05 pm

Ahso!;1338600 wrote: The KKK is a Christian organization too, aren't they?

CinnamonBear;1338604 wrote: No.

They certainly think they are.

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:10 pm

Quote Originally Posted by Ahso!

The KKK is a Christian organization too, aren't they?

CinnamonBear;1338604 wrote: No.

From kkk.com :

"Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan! The Knights Party, USA. Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!"

They define themselves as Christian.

Then again, since you are such a learned authority on Islam, it would seem to follow that you would know who or what is or isn't Christian.

CinnamonBear · Post by **CinnamonBear** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:11 pm

LarsMac;1338605 wrote: They certainly think they are.

Charles Manson did too. bzzzzt, wrong.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:20 pm

CinnamonBear;1338609 wrote: Charles Manson did too. bzzzzt, wrong.

So using the same logic, how about the guys that flew the planes?

Thinking you are something doesn't put you in the same boat with people who are.

I used to think I was a football player. The NFL disagreed.

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:24 pm

You'll pardon the inquisitiveness of a foreigner, but isn't Barack your President's given (or Christian,if you prefer) name ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:25 pm

O's Islam Progression In America ????

So showing tolerance to another religion Is 'Progression' Is It? 'Progression Into what ?

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:27 pm

CinnamonBear;1338604 wrote: No.

:wah:

can't decide if debating with you is fun or stupid.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:31 pm

koan;1338620 wrote: :wah:

can't decide if debating with you is fun or stupid. Slighty Off topic here but can I just point out how fab you are looking these days Koan? Love the new pic of you In your avatar. Saassy Moma

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:35 pm

oscar;1338622 wrote: Slighty Off topic here but can I just point out how fab you are looking these days Koan? Love the new pic of you In your avatar. Saassy Moma

why, thank you, I attribute it to having decided to read the Bible :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:38 pm

koan;1338624 wrote: why, thank you, I attribute it to having decided to read the Bible :wah: In that case... Pass me that New Testament.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:39 pm

oscar;1338625 wrote: In that case... Pass me that New Testament.

hmmm. I might have stumbled on a marketing technique for when I finish my Old Testament book.

Richard Bell · Post by **Richard Bell** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:45 pm

Originally Posted by CinnamonBear

No.

koan;1338620 wrote: :wah:

can't decide if debating with you is fun or stupid.

For me, it's a little from column "A"...and a little from column "B".

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:46 pm

koan;1338626 wrote: hmmm. I might have stumbled on a marketing technique for when I finish my Old Testament book. I have got the Quaran... Does that work ??? :yh_rotfl

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:50 pm

oscar;1338628 wrote: I have got the Quaran... Does that work ??? :yh_rotfl

Only if you read it backwards

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:51 pm

koan;1338629 wrote: Only if you read it backwards

It would be rude not to.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:31 pm

speaking of rudeness, I just want to check what this thread is supposed to be about...

a) America is safer with Obama at the helm

b) America is safer with Muslims overseeing security

c) The thread is actually using sarcastic literary devices and neither a nor b is true

d) some members of FG hate all Muslims equally

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:41 pm

koan;1338641 wrote: speaking of rudeness, I just want to check what this thread is supposed to be about...

a) America is safer with Obama at the helm

b) America is safer with Muslims overseeing security

c) The thread is actually using sarcastic literary devices and neither a nor b is true

d) some members of FG hate all Muslims equally

Can I add to that?

e ) Some members live and work with Muslims.

f ) Some members have never met a Muslim nor know any.

g ) Some members may consider racist over-tones In some of the posts.

CinnamonBear · Post by **CinnamonBear** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:54 pm

Richard Bell;1338608 wrote: From kkk.com :

"Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan! The Knights Party, USA. Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!"

They define themselves as Christian.

Then again, since you are such a learned authority on Islam, it would seem to follow that you would know who or what is or isn't Christian.

Thank you.

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:57 pm

oscar;1338644 wrote: Can I add to that?

e ) Some members live and work with Muslims.

f ) Some members have never met a Muslim nor know any.

g ) Some members may consider racist over-tones In some of the posts.
h) Some members have family members who are Muslim... but choose to laugh at the ignorance of others who know not of which they speak.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:57 pm

koan;1338641 wrote: speaking of rudeness, I just want to check what this thread is supposed to be about...

a) America is safer with Obama at the helm

b) America is safer with Muslims overseeing security

c) The thread is actually using sarcastic literary devices and neither a nor b is true

d) some members of FG hate all Muslims equally

oscar;1338644 wrote: Can I add to that?

e ) Some members live and work with Muslims.

f ) Some members have never met a Muslim nor know any.

g ) Some members may consider racist over-tones In some of the posts.

I choose L, all of the above

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:58 pm

CinnamonBear;1338646 wrote: Thank you. As Richard said, you seem the learned authority on Islam, perhaps you can share with us how you feel the demographics have changed given the migration of the Muslim faith Into Western Society and countries over the past 20 years?

Do you see this as colonisation of some Western Countries or more Integration of varied faiths?

Given some of the violent messages In the Holy Quaran, do you believe this has an effect on modern Christianity within Western Societies?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:44 pm

Richard Bell;1338608 wrote: From kkk.com :

"Welcome to the Ku Klux Klan! The Knights Party, USA. Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!"

They define themselves as Christian.

Then again, since you are such a learned authority on Islam, it would seem to follow that you would know who or what is or isn't Christian.
CinnamonBear;1338646 wrote: Thank you.At this point I can't decide which you're thankful to.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:40 am

The closest parallel I can think of was during the Northern Ireland fighting in the UK. Does anybody remember outrage if a Catholic was appointed to a British security position back then? Does anybody remember a news story of a Catholic being appointed to such a position back then? Did anybody give such things much thought?

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:35 am

I might be seriously concerned if these folks studied under the same Imam as did Major Hasan.