hello my little chickadees im back did you miss me ?
sorry i,ve not been around but i,ve been waiting for talk talk to connect me to the internet anyway heres todays grump.
PRISONERS will get the right to vote as the Government is poised to give in to the European Court of Human Rights.
The court says the blanket ban on 70,000 lags voting is illegal.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... -toasts-PM
AAG
this is absolute madness what with two other stories also in the sun about 27,000 new tv,s being issued to convicted prisoners in jails up and down the country and a bungling mp calling for cons to recieve better food to improve their diet is a smack in the face for the victims of crime.
prison is no longer a punishment but a holiday with sinks tv,s and toilets in the cells and nothing to do all day every day but watch freeview or order from the argos catalogue ( this is true i kid you not ) some cons are better off inside than they are outside.
even the prison officers even have to quietly walk the landings so they dont disturb sleeping cons.
so next time you need a short break dont head for trusthouse forte
break a window and get yourself sent down you,ll recieve hotel service absolutly free. :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
who,s running the prisons butlins? the AA grumpy column
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who,s running the prisons butlins? the AA grumpy column
for a long time I was pretty black and white about this. You broke the law so no say in the process for you any more. and that makes sense some of the time. should a pedophile get a vote in child protection laws? Not bloody likely! But what about a low-level drug user who's a veteran? Why shouldn't they have a say in, for example, a bond issue to give veterans college scholarships?
who,s running the prisons butlins? the AA grumpy column
There is another point. With cut-backs now being implemented, prisons are not immune, so there will be less staff (warders), to supervise inmates. Answer - more lock-ups in the cells, so less staff needed. This is all OK for a while, but, as you know from your own situations, to be restricted in a small very basic room could in a very short space of time, prove to be very frustrating.
It's all very well people saying (and I'm one of them) that they did the crime, so they do the punishment and not at the Ritz !
It is a fact that if you get bored and frustrated people, it is the breeding ground for unrest and problems. So the powers that be allow TVs and video games into the prisons, provided the inmate saves his/her money and buys the video game machine him'her self. I believe TVs are rented by the inmates at so much a week, but I could be wrong here. It does seem logical to allow a certain amount of entertainment within an inmate's cell, if only to keep the status quo. Also I believe there is a sort of points system where inmates can improve their 'lot' with good behaviour and co-operation.
I have thought about this 'entertainment' situation, and have come to the conclusion that it is probably much better to keep inmates reasonably comfortable, than to deprive them totally of such items. They are deprived of their freedom, they have very restricted visiting from relatives and friends, they are incarcerated in a small cell, probably with at least one other inmate, they usually have a balanced diet of regular meals, but nothing special. Apparently they are allowed to buy items they need for every day use, like toiletries or cigarettes from within the prison, depending on how much 'wages' they earn doing various tasks that help with the running of the prison. It would appear that the 'wages' are a matter of a few pounds each week, maybe just into double figures ! Not very much to go daft on, particularly if you are a smoker!
No, actually, I can see the sense in allowing certain 'luxury' items into a prison, now that I have had time to think about it.
It's all very well people saying (and I'm one of them) that they did the crime, so they do the punishment and not at the Ritz !
It is a fact that if you get bored and frustrated people, it is the breeding ground for unrest and problems. So the powers that be allow TVs and video games into the prisons, provided the inmate saves his/her money and buys the video game machine him'her self. I believe TVs are rented by the inmates at so much a week, but I could be wrong here. It does seem logical to allow a certain amount of entertainment within an inmate's cell, if only to keep the status quo. Also I believe there is a sort of points system where inmates can improve their 'lot' with good behaviour and co-operation.
I have thought about this 'entertainment' situation, and have come to the conclusion that it is probably much better to keep inmates reasonably comfortable, than to deprive them totally of such items. They are deprived of their freedom, they have very restricted visiting from relatives and friends, they are incarcerated in a small cell, probably with at least one other inmate, they usually have a balanced diet of regular meals, but nothing special. Apparently they are allowed to buy items they need for every day use, like toiletries or cigarettes from within the prison, depending on how much 'wages' they earn doing various tasks that help with the running of the prison. It would appear that the 'wages' are a matter of a few pounds each week, maybe just into double figures ! Not very much to go daft on, particularly if you are a smoker!
No, actually, I can see the sense in allowing certain 'luxury' items into a prison, now that I have had time to think about it.
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who,s running the prisons butlins? the AA grumpy column
G#Gill;1342340 wrote: There is another point. With cut-backs now being implemented, prisons are not immune, so there will be less staff (warders), to supervise inmates. Answer - more lock-ups in the cells, so less staff needed. This is all OK for a while, but, as you know from your own situations, to be restricted in a small very basic room could in a very short space of time, prove to be very frustrating.
It's all very well people saying (and I'm one of them) that they did the crime, so they do the punishment and not at the Ritz !
It is a fact that if you get bored and frustrated people, it is the breeding ground for unrest and problems. So the powers that be allow TVs and video games into the prisons, provided the inmate saves his/her money and buys the video game machine him'her self. I believe TVs are rented by the inmates at so much a week, but I could be wrong here. It does seem logical to allow a certain amount of entertainment within an inmate's cell, if only to keep the status quo. Also I believe there is a sort of points system where inmates can improve their 'lot' with good behaviour and co-operation.
I have thought about this 'entertainment' situation, and have come to the conclusion that it is probably much better to keep inmates reasonably comfortable, than to deprive them totally of such items. They are deprived of their freedom, they have very restricted visiting from relatives and friends, they are incarcerated in a small cell, probably with at least one other inmate, they usually have a balanced diet of regular meals, but nothing special. Apparently they are allowed to buy items they need for every day use, like toiletries or cigarettes from within the prison, depending on how much 'wages' they earn doing various tasks that help with the running of the prison. It would appear that the 'wages' are a matter of a few pounds each week, maybe just into double figures ! Not very much to go daft on, particularly if you are a smoker!
No, actually, I can see the sense in allowing certain 'luxury' items into a prison, now that I have had time to think about it.
i disagree prison is supposed to be a punishment not a holiday on the taxpayer
if you give cons x boxes and tv,s hows prison supposed to be a deterrant
this is down to the do gooder brigade.
It's all very well people saying (and I'm one of them) that they did the crime, so they do the punishment and not at the Ritz !
It is a fact that if you get bored and frustrated people, it is the breeding ground for unrest and problems. So the powers that be allow TVs and video games into the prisons, provided the inmate saves his/her money and buys the video game machine him'her self. I believe TVs are rented by the inmates at so much a week, but I could be wrong here. It does seem logical to allow a certain amount of entertainment within an inmate's cell, if only to keep the status quo. Also I believe there is a sort of points system where inmates can improve their 'lot' with good behaviour and co-operation.
I have thought about this 'entertainment' situation, and have come to the conclusion that it is probably much better to keep inmates reasonably comfortable, than to deprive them totally of such items. They are deprived of their freedom, they have very restricted visiting from relatives and friends, they are incarcerated in a small cell, probably with at least one other inmate, they usually have a balanced diet of regular meals, but nothing special. Apparently they are allowed to buy items they need for every day use, like toiletries or cigarettes from within the prison, depending on how much 'wages' they earn doing various tasks that help with the running of the prison. It would appear that the 'wages' are a matter of a few pounds each week, maybe just into double figures ! Not very much to go daft on, particularly if you are a smoker!
No, actually, I can see the sense in allowing certain 'luxury' items into a prison, now that I have had time to think about it.
i disagree prison is supposed to be a punishment not a holiday on the taxpayer
if you give cons x boxes and tv,s hows prison supposed to be a deterrant
this is down to the do gooder brigade.