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I'd like to see a sub forum on global warming here, i'm amazed there's not :-2

Anyway my first question on this subject is

Do you really think 'concerts' for global warming will help?

Of course it will raise public awareness but considering all the big pop stars have to fly in, well there's the clue.

Your thoughts?
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Concerts happen. If a concert isn't for a cause it's still a concert. It might as well be dedicated to raising public awareness and stimulating discussion at the same time as entertaining a crowd.
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buttercup;654284 wrote: I'd like to see a sub forum on global warming here, i'm amazed there's not :-2

Anyway my first question on this subject is

Do you really think 'concerts' for global warming will help?

Of course it will raise public awareness but considering all the big pop stars have to fly in, well there's the clue.





Your thoughts?


What I find interesting is the number of eminently qualified scientists that do not agree on Global Warming. Who to believe? Each side seems to have an agenda.
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buttercup;654284 wrote: I'd like to see a sub forum on global warming here, i'm amazed there's not :-2

Anyway my first question on this subject is

Do you really think 'concerts' for global warming will help?

Of course it will raise public awareness but considering all the big pop stars have to fly in, well there's the clue.




There's an "Earth changes" forum which is appropriate.

This and other "concerts" won't help and may make matters (just very slightly) worse.
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Lon;654336 wrote: What I find interesting is the number of eminently qualified scientists that do not agree on Global Warming. Who to believe? Each side seems to have an agenda.


Put it this way - if there's an equal opinion on each side (although I think that there's now a larger body saying global warming due to man's efforts is in fact happening) - one of them is going to be wrong. What are the consequences if the "Global Warming" mob are wrong? We've wasted our efforts in that particular direction, although we will have reaped benefits (less pollution, engineering developments, etc). What if the "No Global Warming" mob are wrong? Well, we're right up shilt creek without a paddle, and the consequences would be dire.
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anyone who's not head of the planet heating up must be on another world.
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buttercup;654284 wrote: I'd like to see a sub forum on global warming here, i'm amazed there's not :-2

Anyway my first question on this subject is

Do you really think 'concerts' for global warming will help?

Of course it will raise public awareness but considering all the big pop stars have to fly in, well there's the clue.

Your thoughts?


I thought this on the way into work this morning, as it was on the radio.

Apart from all the stars flying in, in private jets. (they could do a jet-share scheme couldn't they?) there is all the lighting and sound equipment to consider, as well as a good few thousand people sitting in their cars with the engines on, waiting to get in, and out again!

I think the project manager for the event should consider the following options

1- Ensure all the stars travel together in a jet-share scheme, or use easy-jet!

2- Lay on public service vehicles for attendees from all major towns/cities, and DON'T LET CARS IN! That way the vehicles used will be reduced by about 60%

3- Use energy saving lightbulbs in those dirty great big lamps
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Lon;654336 wrote: What I find interesting is the number of eminently qualified scientists that do not agree on Global Warming. Who to believe? Each side seems to have an agenda.


Actually Lon, and I am not being sniffy here, thats a common miusconception that has been put around by certain people with a non-scientific agenda. I have to say that as far as I know, its almost entirely unanimous amoung scientists that global warming is a certainty, as is the link between global warming and increasing CO2 levels, there are a handful of scientists who disagree, (and the scientific argument is always open to question by virtue of being science in the first place), but it is truly a handful against the vast bulk of individual scientists and scientific institutions who have been accumulating the evidence for years and have no doubts that this problem is all too real unfortauntly.

The British Royal Society sorta blew this one out of the water last year, with a very good paper debunking this propoganda about the alleged 50/50 split in the scientific community (its more like a 97/3 split), I think its important that scientists are far more explicit about their conclusions from now on about this issue. It seems that the natural inclination of scientists to always qualify their findings has in this case been used very very disingenously by cynical organizations and thats been a big problem to date in trying to convince people that all this stuff is actually real. Time will tell though.
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Bill Sikes;654341 wrote: Put it this way - if there's an equal opinion on each side (although I think that there's now a larger body saying global warming due to man's efforts is in fact happening) - one of them is going to be wrong. What are the consequences if the "Global Warming" mob are wrong? We've wasted our efforts in that particular direction, although we will have reaped benefits (less pollution, engineering developments, etc). What if the "No Global Warming" mob are wrong? Well, we're right up shilt creek without a paddle, and the consequences would be dire.


I like that----it makes sense.
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Bill Sikes;654341 wrote: Put it this way - if there's an equal opinion on each side (although I think that there's now a larger body saying global warming due to man's efforts is in fact happening) - one of them is going to be wrong.


I would add to this that there is in no way an equal opinion. For at least 15 years probably over 99% of the published research that takes an opinion on the subject concludes that the recent global warming (since the middle of last century) is anthropogenic.

Naomi Oreskes did this literature review that was published in (the highly esteemed and peer reviewed journal) Science. She loook at the 928 papers published 1993-2003 with the ISI keywords "global climate change" (not "climate change", as she states in the essay, there was a correction published later).



She found not one dissenting paper of the 928.



Of those very rare scientists who do dissent, (although they don't seem to have published to that effect in that decade), my experience is that the vast majority of that vast minority are not reputable scientists, and do have traceable funding form ExxonMobil or other fossil fuel interests.

The sceptics are so few that you can actually name many of them:

The poster boy is undoubtedly Lindzen, who is a respected scientist, but who "charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels, and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC", according to Ross Gelbspan in 1995. (see Exxon Secrets)

The next two you seem to see are Singer (S. Frederick) and Seitz (Frederick), who are both old and corrupt enough to have been telling people in the 50s that science denies that smoking is bad for them. They're doing the same thing now in their old age, except the victim is not just the gullible themselves ... it's the whole world.
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I'm reminded of the slow defensive retreat of the tobacco companies over the second half of the 20th century. They bought scientists with grant money in exchange for equivocal views on linking tobacco use with lung cancer and other health problems. Armed with those articles they used the argument that the scientific community was divided on the issue and that there was no consensus one way or the other within the scientific community. It was a cynical and deliberate manipulation of public opinion but also a vital tool in lobbying governments to delay any introduction of health measures. This time round it's a few governments themselves who are creating the "scientific opinion is divided" pressure groups.
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spot;655529 wrote: I'm reminded of the slow defensive retreat of the tobacco companies over the second half of the 20th century. They bought scientists with grant money in exchange for equivocal views on linking tobacco use with lung cancer and other health problems. Armed with those articles they used the argument that the scientific community was divided on the issue and that there was no consensus one way or the other within the scientific community. It was a cynical and deliberate manipulation of public opinion but also a vital tool in lobbying governments to delay any introduction of health measures. This time round it's a few governments themselves who are creating the "scientific opinion is divided" pressure groups.


Yeah.

And it is some of these same scientists that are denying global warming for the fossil fuel industry. What's crazy to me is that the tobacco industry faces a large litigation liability, which they're servicing by delaying as long as they can because the claimants tend to die during the process which limits damage.

But the fossil fuel industry's liability will just increase as time goes by in a warming world. These CEOs must really focus on the present and not the fifty-year future... Acutally that's obvious isn't it? Their bonus is based on this year's profit. They really are ripping off the shareholder if they are not accounting for a future litigation liability because of this con-job on the population.
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I think the whole argument on global warming is beside the point, why do we always need a global crisis before we start doing what is right? Even if global warming was not happening, we should as responsible citizens of the earth, do what we can to protect it as it is our only source of life.

We should be looking for alternative energies; we should recycle and reduce waist and reduce pollution because it is the right thing to do.

As far as the looming crisis¦ I don’t know. The world was suppose to end with Y2K as well, remember all the computers were suppose to shut down causing chaos and confusion at the turn of the century leading to defence systems launching missile strikes bla lbla bla.

The world is changing, with the economies of China and India growing, it will be difficult to off set their increased levels of pollution, but we need to continue finding ways to protect our planet.
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mikeinie;655619 wrote: As far as the looming crisis¦ I don’t know. The world was suppose to end with Y2K as well, remember all the computers were suppose to shut down causing chaos and confusion at the turn of the century leading to defence systems launching missile strikes bla lbla bla.


The difference was that in the 80s and 90s there were billions of dollars spent protecting systems against the Y2K bug, and testing entire duplicate systems on an advanced date.

There was a very lucrative industry in Y2K consulting, and basically, all large players correctly proofed themselves against the disaster.

With global warming, not sufficient action is being taken to stabilize the CO2 content of the atmosphere.

mikeinie;655619 wrote: The world is changing, with the economies of China and India growing, it will be difficult to off set their increased levels of pollution, but we need to continue finding ways to protect our planet.


Yes. That will be a problem. And these two countries in particular will suffer fresh water stress under a warmer globe as their water supplies will become more violently seasonal when less precipitation in the Himalayas becomes less snow and more rain.
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Bill Sikes;654341 wrote: Put it this way - if there's an equal opinion on each side (although I think that there's now a larger body saying global warming due to man's efforts is in fact happening) - one of them is going to be wrong. What are the consequences if the "Global Warming" mob are wrong? We've wasted our efforts in that particular direction, although we will have reaped benefits (less pollution, engineering developments, etc). What if the "No Global Warming" mob are wrong? Well, we're right up shilt creek without a paddle, and the consequences would be dire.


Sounds JUST like the bible thumpers

WHAT IF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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spot;655529 wrote: I'm reminded of the slow defensive retreat of the tobacco companies over the second half of the 20th century. They bought scientists with grant money in exchange for equivocal views on linking tobacco use with lung cancer and other health problems. Armed with those articles they used the argument that the scientific community was divided on the issue and that there was no consensus one way or the other within the scientific community. It was a cynical and deliberate manipulation of public opinion but also a vital tool in lobbying governments to delay any introduction of health measures. This time round it's a few governments themselves who are creating the "scientific opinion is divided" pressure groups.




So what is it spot? Many scientist do not agree?



Or???



as you said:



"it's a few governments themselves who are creating the scientific opinion is divided pressure groups."



Show us ALL where these governments do influence scientist?



FYI:



Just a FEW that DISAGREE or have a OPEN mind.





Believe global warming is not occurring



Timothy F. Ball, former Professor of Geography, University of Winnipeg: "(The world's climate) warmed from 1680 up to 1940, but since 1940 it's been cooling down. The evidence for warming is because of distorted records. The satellite data, for example, shows cooling." (November 2004) [5] "The temperature hasn't gone up. ... But the mood of the world has changed: It has heated up to this belief in global warming." (August 2006) [6] "Temperatures declined from 1940 to 1980 and in the early 1970's global cooling became the consensus. ... By the 1990's temperatures appeared to have reversed and Global Warming became the consensus. It appears I'll witness another cycle before retiring, as the major mechanisms and the global temperature trends now indicate a cooling." (Feb. 5, 2007) [7]



[edit] Believe accuracy of IPCC climate projections are inadequate



Scientists in this section conclude that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the next century. They do not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.


Roger A. Pielke, Senior Research Scientist at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) wrote: “Humans are significantly altering the global climate, but in a variety of diverse ways beyond the radiative effect of carbon dioxide. The IPCC assessments have been too conservative in recognizing the importance of these human climate forcings as they alter regional and global climate. These assessments have also not communicated the inability of the models to accurately forecast the spread of possibilities of future climate. The forecasts, therefore, do not provide any skill in quantifying the impact of different mitigation strategies on the actual climate response that would occur. [8]

Hendrik Tennekes, retired Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute: "The blind adherence to the harebrained idea that climate models can generate 'realistic' simulations of climate is the principal reason why I remain a climate skeptic. From my background in turbulence I look forward with grim anticipation to the day that climate models will run with a horizontal resolution of less than a kilometer. The horrible predictability problems of turbulent flows then will descend on climate science with a vengeance." [9]

Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists : "models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) are incoherent and invalid from a scientific point of view". [10][edit] Believe global warming is primarily caused by natural processes



Scientists in this section conclude that the observed warming is more likely attributable to natural causes than to human activities.


Khabibullo Ismailovich Abdusamatov, mathematician and astronomer at Pulkovskaya Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the supervisor of the Astrometria project of the Russian section of the International Space Station: "Global warming results not from the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, but from an unusually high level of solar radiation and a lengthy - almost throughout the last century - growth in its intensity...Ascribing 'greenhouse' effect properties to the Earth's atmosphere is not scientifically substantiated...Heated greenhouse gases, which become lighter as a result of expansion, ascend to the atmosphere only to give the absorbed heat away." (Russian News & Information Agency, Jan. 15, 2007 [11]) (See also [12], [13], [14])

Sallie Baliunas, astronomer, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics: "[T]he recent warming trend in the surface temperature record cannot be caused by the increase of human-made greenhouse gases in the air." (Capitalism Magazine, August 22, 2002)[15] Baliunas and Soon wrote that "there is no reliable evidence for increased severity or frequency of storms, droughts, or floods that can be related to the air’s increased greenhouse gas content." (Marshall Institute, March 25, 2003) [16]

David Bellamy, environmental campaigner, broadcaster and former botanist: "Global warming is a largely natural phenomenon. The world is wasting stupendous amounts of money on trying to fix something that can’t be fixed."[17]

Reid Bryson, emeritus professor of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Wisconsin-Madison: "It’s absurd. Of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air." [18].

Robert M. Carter, geologist, researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University in Australia: "The essence of the issue is this. Climate changes naturally all the time, partly in predictable cycles, and partly in unpredictable shorter rhythms and rapid episodic shifts, some of the causes of which remain unknown." (Telegraph, April 9, 2006 [19])

George V. Chilingar, Professor of Civil and Petroleum Engineering at the University of Southern California: "The authors identify and describe the following global forces of nature driving the Earth’s climate: (1) solar radiation ..., (2) outgassing as a major supplier of gases to the World Ocean and the atmosphere, and, possibly, (3) microbial activities ... . The writers provide quantitative estimates of the scope and extent of their corresponding effects on the Earth’s climate [and] show that the human-induced climatic changes are negligible." (Environmental Geology, vol. 50 no. 6, August 2006 [20])

Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa: "That portion of the scientific community that attributes climate warming to CO2 relies on the hypothesis that increasing CO2, which is in fact a minor greenhouse gas, triggers a much larger water vapour response to warm the atmosphere. This mechanism has never been tested scientifically beyond the mathematical models that predict extensive warming, and are confounded by the complexity of cloud formation - which has a cooling effect. ... We know that was responsible for climate change in the past, and so is clearly going to play the lead role in present and future climate change. And interestingly... solar activity has recently begun a downward cycle." (The Hill Times, March 22, 2004 [21])

Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University: "global warming since 1900 could well have happened without any effect of CO2. If the cycles continue as in the past, the current warm cycle should end soon and global temperatures should cool slightly until about 2035" [22]

William M. Gray, Professor of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University: "This small warming is likely a result of the natural alterations in global ocean currents which are driven by ocean salinity variations. Ocean circulation variations are as yet little understood. Human kind has little or nothing to do with the recent temperature changes. We are not that influential."[23]) "I am of the opinion that [global warming] is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people." [24]) "So many people have a vested interest in this global-warming thing—all these big labs and research and stuff. The idea is to frighten the public, to get money to study it more."[25])

George Kukla, retired Professor of Climatology at Columbia University and Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, said in an interview: "What I think is this: Man is responsible for a PART of global warming. MOST of it is still natural." (Gelf Magazine, April 24, 2007) [26]

David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware: "About half of the warming during the 20th century occurred prior to the 1940s, and natural variability accounts for all or nearly all of the warming." (May 15, 2006 [27])

Marcel Leroux, former Professor of Climatology, Université Jean Moulin: "The possible causes, then, of climate change are: well-established orbital parameters on the palaeoclimatic scale, ... solar activity, ...; volcanism ...; and far at the rear, the greenhouse effect, and in particular that caused by water vapor, the extent of its influence being unknown. These factors are working together all the time, and it seems difficult to unravel the relative importance of their respective influences upon climatic evolution. Equally, it is tendentious to highlight the anthropic factor, which is, clearly, the least credible among all those previously mentioned." (M. Leroux, Global Warming - Myth or Reality?, 2005, p. 120 [28])

Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa: global warming "is the biggest scientific hoax being perpetrated on humanity. There is no global warming due to human anthropogenic activities. The atmosphere hasn’t changed much in 280 million years, and there have always been cycles of warming and cooling. The Cretaceous period was the warmest on earth. You could have grown tomatoes at the North Pole"[29]

Tim Patterson [30], paleoclimatologist and Professor of Geology at Carleton University in Canada: "There is no meaningful correlation between CO2 levels and Earth's temperature over this [geologic] time frame. In fact, when CO2 levels were over ten times higher than they are now, about 450 million years ago, the planet was in the depths of the absolute coldest period in the last half billion years. On the basis of this evidence, how could anyone still believe that the recent relatively small increase in CO2 levels would be the major cause of the past century's modest warming?" [31][32]

Ian Plimer, Professor of Mining Geology, The University of Adelaide: "We only have to have one volcano burping and we have changed the whole planetary climate... It looks as if carbon dioxide actually follows climate change rather than drives it". [[33]]

Frederick Seitz, retired, former solid-state physicist, former president of the National Academy of Sciences: "So we see that the scientific facts indicate that all the temperature changes observed in the last 100 years were largely natural changes and were not caused by carbon dioxide produced in human activities." (Environment News, 2001 [34])

Nir Shaviv, astrophysicist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem: "[T]he truth is probably somewhere in between , with natural causes probably being more important over the past century, whereas anthropogenic causes will probably be more dominant over the next century. ... [A]bout 2/3's (give or take a third or so) of the warming [over the past century] should be attributed to increased solar activity and the remaining to anthropogenic causes." His opinion is based on some proxies of solar activity over the past few centuries. [35]

Fred Singer, Professor emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia: "The greenhouse effect is real. However, the effect is minute, insignificant, and very difficult to detect." (Christian Science Monitor, April 22, 2005) [36] "The Earth currently is experiencing a warming trend, but there is scientific evidence that human activities have little to do with it.", NCPA Study No. 279, Sep. 2005 [37]. “It’s not automatically true that warming is bad, I happen to believe that warming is good, and so do many economists. (CBC's Denial machine @ 19:23 - Google Video Link)

Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics: "[T]here's increasingly strong evidence that previous research conclusions, including those of the United Nations and the United States government concerning 20th century warming, may have been biased by underestimation of natural climate variations. The bottom line is that if these variations are indeed proven true, then, yes, natural climate fluctuations could be a dominant factor in the recent warming. In other words, natural factors could be more important than previously assumed." (Harvard University Gazette, 24 April 2003 [38])

Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London: "...the myth is starting to implode. ... Serious new research at The Max Planck Institute has indicated that the sun is a far more significant factor..." (Global Warming as Myth [39])

Henrik Svensmark, Danish National Space Center: "Our team ... has discovered that the relatively few cosmic rays that reach sea-level play a big part in the everyday weather. They help to make low-level clouds, which largely regulate the Earth’s surface temperature. During the 20th Century the influx of cosmic rays decreased and the resulting reduction of cloudiness allowed the world to warm up. ... most of the warming during the 20th Century can be explained by a reduction in low cloud cover." [40]

Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, Professor Emeritus from University of Ottawa: "At this stage, two scenarios of potential human impact on climate appear feasible: (1) the standard IPCC model ..., and (2) the alternative model that argues for celestial phenomena as the principal climate driver. ... Models and empirical observations are both indispensable tools of science, yet when discrepancies arise, observations should carry greater weight than theory. If so, the multitude of empirical observations favours celestial phenomena as the most important driver of terrestrial climate on most time scales, but time will be the final judge." (In J. Veizer, "Celestial climate driver: a perspective from four billion years of the carbon cycle", Geoscience Canada, March, 2005. [41], [42])[edit] Believe cause of global warming is unknown



Scientists in this section conclude it is too early to ascribe any principal cause to the observed rising temperatures, man-made or natural.


Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and Director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks: "[T]he method of study adopted by the International Panel of Climate Change (IPCC) is fundamentally flawed, resulting in a baseless conclusion: Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations. Contrary to this statement ..., there is so far no definitive evidence that 'most' of the present warming is due to the greenhouse effect. ... should have recognized that the range of observed natural changes should not be ignored, and thus their conclusion should be very tentative. The term 'most' in their conclusion is baseless." [43]

Claude Allègre, geochemist, Institute of Geophysics (Paris): "The increase in the CO2 content of the atmosphere is an observed fact and mankind is most certainly responsible. In the long term, this increase will without doubt become harmful, but its exact role in the climate is less clear. Various parameters appear more important than CO2. Consider the water cycle and formation of various types of clouds, and the complex effects of industrial or agricultural dust. Or fluctuations of the intensity of the solar radiation on annual and century scale, which seem better correlated with heating effects than the variations of CO2 content." (Translation from the original French version in L'Express, May 10, 2006 [44])

Robert C. Balling, Jr., director of the Office of Climatology and a professor of geography at Arizona State University: "t is very likely that the recent upward trend [in global surface temperature] is very real and that the upward signal is greater than any noise introduced from uncertainties in the record. However, the general error is most likely to be in the warming direction, with a maximum possible (though unlikely) value of 0.3 °C. ... At this moment in time we know only that: (1) Global surface temperatures have risen in recent decades. (2) Mid-tropospheric temperatures have warmed little over the same period. (3) This difference is not consistent with predictions from numerical climate models." (George C. Marshall Institute, Policy Outlook, September 2003[45])

John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports (answering to "If global temperatures are increasing, to what extent is the increase attributable to greenhouse gas emissions from human activity as opposed to natural variability or other causes?"): "No one knows. Estimates today are given by climate model simulations made against a backdrop of uncertain natural variability, assumptions about how greenhouse gases affect the climate, and model shortcomings in general. The evidence from our work (and others) is that the way the observed temperatures are changing in many important aspects is not consistent with model simulations." [46]

William R. Cotton, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at University of Colorado said in a presentation, "It is an open question if human produced changes in climate are large enough to be detected from the noise of the natural variability of the climate system." [47]

Chris de Freitas, Associate Professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland: "There is evidence of global warming. ... But warming does not confirm that carbon dioxide is causing it. Climate is always warming or cooling. There are natural variability theories of warming. To support the argument that carbon dioxide is causing it, the evidence would have to distinguish between human-caused and natural warming. This has not been done." (The New Zealand Herald, May 9, 2006 [48])

David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma: "The amount of climatic warming that has taken place in the past 150 years is poorly constrained, and its cause--human or natural--is unknown. There is no sound scientific basis for predicting future climate change with any degree of certainty. If the climate does warm, it is likely to be beneficial to humanity rather than harmful. In my opinion, it would be foolish to establish national energy policy on the basis of misinformation and irrational hysteria." (Testimony before the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, December 6, 2006 [49])

Richard Lindzen, Alfred Sloane Professor of Atmospheric Science at the Massachussetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences: "We are quite confident (1) that global mean temperature is about 0.5 °C higher than it was a century ago; (2) that atmospheric levels of CO2 have risen over the past two centuries; and (3) that CO2 is a greenhouse gas whose increase is likely to warm the earth (one of many, the most important being water vapor and clouds). But--and I cannot stress this enough--we are not in a position to confidently attribute past climate change to CO2 or to forecast what the climate will be in the future." [50] "[T]here has been no question whatsoever that CO2 is an infrared absorber (i.e., a greenhouse gas — albeit a minor one), and its increase should theoretically contribute to warming. Indeed, if all else were kept equal, the increase in CO2 should have led to somewhat more warming than has been observed." (San Francisco Examiner, July 12, 2006 [51] and in Wall Street Journal, June 26, 2006, Page A14)

Roy Spencer, principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville: "We need to find out how much of the warming we are seeing could be due to mankind, because I still maintain we have no idea how much you can attribute to mankind." (George C. Marshall Institute Washington Roundtable on Science and Public Policy, April 17, 2006 [52])[edit] Believe global warming will benefit human society



Scientists in this section conclude that the rising temperatures that are occurring will be of little impact or a net positive for human society.


Sherwood Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University: "[W]arming has been shown to positively impact human health, while atmospheric CO2 enrichment has been shown to enhance the health-promoting properties of the food we eat, as well as stimulate the production of more of it. ... [W]e have nothing to fear from increasing concentrations of atmospheric CO2 and global warming." ("Enhanced or Impaired? Human Health in a CO2-Enriched Warmer World", co2science.org, Nov, 2003, p. 30 [53])

Patrick Michaels, state climatologist, University of Virginia: "scientists know quite precisely how much the planet will warm in the foreseeable future, a modest three-quarters of a degree (C), plus or minus a mere quarter-degree...a modest warming is a likely benefit."[54]
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BTS;656216 wrote:

Just a FEW that DISAGREE or have a OPEN mind.




OMG there's so few that you can make a list! The IPCC 2007 report involved 4000 scientists and experts, and you think that a list of a few dozen aging skeptics in the pay of fossil fule interests is a worth posting.

Imagine if someone had the time to list all the scientists who agreed with the AGW consensus? It would be more than 100 times longer than yours.
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Bored_Wombat;656228 wrote: OMG there's so few that you can make a list! The IPCC 2007 report involved 4000 scientists and experts, and you think that a list of a few dozen aging skeptics in the pay of fossil fule interests is a worth posting.



Imagine if someone had the time to list all the scientists who agreed with the AGW consensus? It would be more than 100 times longer than yours.


OK you are on............

Scientist in the field ONLY........
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BTS;656231 wrote: OK you are on............

Scientist in the field ONLY........
Don't be ridiculous. No one is going to be able to list them. The group is huge.

Just look at the list of contributors to the IPCC wroking group I report: And that's not even the reviewers. And that's just working group I. And there are many more whose work was referenced.

ACHUTARAO, Krishna

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

ADLER, Robert

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

USA

ALEXANDER, Lisa

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK, Australia, Ireland

ALEXANDERSSON, Hans

Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute

Sweden

ALLAN, Richard

Environmental Systems Science Centre, University of Reading

UK

ALLEN, Myles

Climate Dynamics Group, Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics, Department of Physics, University of Oxford

UK

ALLEY, Richard B.

Department of Geosciences, Pennsylvania State University

USA

ALLISON, Ian

Australian Antarctic Division and Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre

Australia

AMBENJE, Peter

Kenya Meteorological Department

Kenya

AMMANN, Caspar

Climate and Global Dynamics Division, National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

ANDRONOVA, Natalia

University of Michigan

USA

ANNAN, James

Frontier Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology

Japan, UK

ANTONOV, John

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA, Russian Federation

ARBLASTER, Julie

National Center for Atmospheric Research and Bureau of Meteotology Research Center

USA, Australia

ARCHER, David

University of Chicago

USA

ARORA, Vivek

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada

Canada

ARRITT, Raymond

Iowa State University

USA

ARTALE, Vincenzo

Italian National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and the Environment (ENEA)

Italy

ARTAXO, Paulo

Instituto de Fisica, Universidade de Sao Paulo

Brazil

AUER, Ingeborg

Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics

Austria

AUSTIN, John

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

USA

BAEDE, Alphonsus

Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) and Ministry of Housing, Spatial Planning and the Environment

Netherlands

BAKER, David

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

BALDWIN, Mark P.

Northwest Research Associates

USA

BARNOLA, Jean-Marc

Laboratoire de Glaciologie et Géophysique de l’Environnement

France

BARRY, Roger

National Snow and Ice Data Center, University of Colorado

USA

BATES, Nicholas Robert

Bermuda Institute of Ocean Sciences

Bermuda

BAUER, Eva

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

BENESTAD, Rasmus

Norwegian Meteorological Institute

Norway

BENISTON, Martin

University of Geneva

Switzerland

BERGER, André

Université catholique de Louvain, Institut d’Astronomie et de Géophysique G. Lemaitre

Belgium

BERNTSEN, Terje

Centre for International Climate and Environmantal Research (CICERO)

Norway

BERRY, Joseph A.

Carnegie Institute of Washington, Department of Global Ecology

USA

BETTS, Richard A.

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

BIERCAMP, Joachim

Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH

Germany

BINDOFF, Nathaniel L.

Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre and CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

BITZ, Cecilia

University of Washington

USA

BLATTER, Heinz

Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science, ETH Zurich

Switzerland

BODEKER, Greg

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

BOJARIU, Roxana

National Institute of Meteorology and Hydrology (NIMH)

Romania

BONAN, Gordon

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

BONFILS, Cèline

School of Natural Sciences, Univerity of California, Merced

USA, France

BONY, Sandrine

Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique, Institut Pierre Simon Laplace

France

BOONE, Aaron

CNRS CNRM at Meteo France

France, USA

BOONPRAGOB, Kansri

Department of Biology, Faculty of Science, Ramkhamhaeng University

Thailand

BOUCHER, Olivier

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK, France

BOUSQUET, Philippe

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

BOX, Jason

Ohio State University

USA

BOYER, Tim

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

BRACONNOT, Pascale

Pascale Braconnot Institu Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

BRADY, Esther

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

BRASSEUR, Guy

Earth and Sun Systems Laboratory, National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA, Germany

BRETHERTON, Christopher

Department of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington

USA

BRIFFA, Keith R.

Climatic Research Unit, School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia

UK

BROCCOLI, Anthony J.

Rutgers University

USA

BROCKMANN, Patrick

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

BROMWICH, David

Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University

USA

BROVKIN, Victor

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany, Russian Federation

BROWN, Ross

Environment Canada

Canada

BUJA, Lawrence

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

BUSUIOC, Aristita

National Meteorological Administration

Romania

CADULE, Patricia

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace

France

CAI, Wenju

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

CAMILLONI, Inés

Universidad de Buenos Aires, Cwentro de Investigaciones del Mar y la Atmósfera

Argentina

CANADELL, Josep

Global Carbon Project, CSIRO

Australia

CARRASCO, Jorge

Direccion Meteorologica de Chile and Centro de Estudios Cientificos

Chile

CASSOU, Christophe

Centre National de Recherche Scientifique, Centre Europeen de Recherche et de Formation Avancee en Calcul Scientifique

France

CAYA, Daniel

Consortium Ouranos

Canada

CAYAN, Daniel R.

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

USA

CAZENAVE, Anny

Laboratoire d’Etudes en Géophysique et Océanographie Spatiale (LEGOS), CNES

France

CHAMBERS, Don

Center for Space Research, The University of Texas at Austin

USA

CHANDLER, Mark

Columbia University and NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

USA

CHANG, Edmund K.M.

Stony Brook University, State University of New York

USA

CHAO, Ben

NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

USA

CHEN, Anthony

Department of Physics, University of the West Indies

Jamaica

CHEN, Zhenlin

Dept of International Cooperation, China Meteorological Administration

China

CHIDTHAISONG, Amnat

The Joint Graduate School of Energy and Environment, King Mongkut’s University of Technology Thonburi

Thailand

CHRISTENSEN, Jens Hesselbjerg

Danish Meteorological Institute

Denmark

CHRISTIAN, James

Fisheries and Oceans, canada, Candian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis

Canada

CHRISTY, John

University of Alabama in Huntsville

USA

CHURCH, John

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre

Australia

CIAIS, Philippe

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

CLARK, Deborah A.

University of Missouri, St. Louis

USA

CLARKE, Garry

Earth and Ocean Sciences, University of British Columbia

Canada

CLAUSSEN, Martin

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

CLEMENT, Amy

University of Miami, Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science

USA

COGLEY, J. Graham

Department of Geography, Trent University

Canada

COLE, Julia

University of Arizona

USA

COLLIER, Mark

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

COLLINS, Matthew

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

COLLINS, William D.

Climate and Global Dynamics Division, National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

COLMAN, Robert

Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre

Australia

COMISO, Josefino

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Goddard Space Flight Center

USA

CONWAY, Thomas J.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA

COOK, Edward

Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory

USA

CORTIJO, Elsa

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement, CNRS-CEA-UVSQ

France

COVEY, Curt

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

COX, Peter M.

School of Engineering, Computer Science and Mathematics, University of Exeter

UK

CROOKS, Simon

University of Oxford

UK

CUBASCH, Ulrich

Institut für Meteorologie, Freie Universität Berlin

Germany

CURRY, Ruth

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

USA

DAI, Aiguo

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

DAMERIS, Martin

German Aerospace Center

Germany

DE ELÍA, Ramón

Ouranos Consortium

Canada, Argentina

DELWORTH, Thomas L.

Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

DENMAN, Kenneth L.

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada and Department of Fisheries and Oceans

Canada

DENTENER, Frank

European Commission Joint Research Centre; Institute of Environment and Sustainability Climate Change Unit

EU

DESER, Clara

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

DETHLOFF, Klaus

Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research, Research Unit Potsdam

Germany

DIANSKY, Nikolay A.

Institute of Numerical Mathematics, Russian Academy of Sciences

Russian Federation

DICKINSON, Robert E.

School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology

USA

DING, Yihui

National Climate Centre, China Meteorological Administration

China

DIRMEYER, Paul

Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies

USA

DIX, Martin

CSIRO

Australia

DIXON, Keith

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

DLUGOKENCKY, Ed

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA

DOKKEN, Trond

Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research

Norway

DOTZEK, Nikolai

Deutsches Zentrum für Luft und Raumfahrt, Institut für Physik der Atmosphäre

Germany

DOUTRIAUX, Charles

Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison

USA, France

DRANGE, Helge

Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Center, Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research

Norway

DRIESSCHAERT, Emmanuelle

Université catholique de Louvain, Institut d’Astronomie et de Géophysique G. Lemaitre

Belgium

DUFRESNE, Jean-Louis

Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique, Institut Pierre Simon Laplace

France

DUPLESSY, Jean-Claude

Centre National dela Recerche Scientifique, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

DYURGEROV, Mark

Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research, University of Colorado at Boulder & Department of Geograpy and Quaternary Geology at Stockholm

Sweden, USA

EASTERLING, David

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA

EBY, Michael

University of Victoria

Canada

EDWARDS, Neil R.

The Open University

UK

ELKINS, James W.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA

EMERSON, Steven

School of Oceanography, University of Washington

USA

EMORI, Seita

National Institute for Environmental Studies and Frontier Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology

Japan

ETHERIDGE, David

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

EYRING, Veronika

Deutsches Zentrum für Luft und Raumfahrt, Institut für Physik der Atmosphäre

Germany

FAHEY, David W.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA

FASULLO, John

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

FEDDEMA, Johannes

University of Kansas

USA

FEELY, Richard

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory

USA

FEICHTER, Johann

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology

Germany

FICHEFET, Thierry

Université catholique de Louvain, Institut d’Astronomie et de Géophysique G. Lemaitre

Belgium

FITZHARRIS, Blair

Department of Geography, University of Otago

New Zealand

FLATO, Gregory

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada

Canada

FLEITMANN, Dominik

Institute of Geological Sciences, Uniersity of Bern

Switzerland, Germany

FLEMING, James Rodger

Colby College

USA

FOGT, Ryan

Polar Meteorology Group, Byrd Polar Research Center and Atmospheric Sciences Program, Department of geography, The Ohio State University

USA

FOLLAND, Christopher

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

FOREST, Chris

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

USA

FORSTER, Piers

School of Earth and Environment, University of Leeds

UK

FOUKAL, Peter

Heliophysics, Inc.

USA

FRASER, Paul

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

FRAUENFELD, Oliver

National Snow and Ice Data Center, University of Colorado at Boulder

USA, Austria

FREE, Melissa

Air Resources Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

FREI, Allan

Hunter College, City University of New York

USA

FREI, Christoph

Federal Office of Meteorology and Climatology MeteoSwiss

Switzerland

FRICKER, Helen

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

USA

FRIEDLINGSTEIN, Pierre

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France, Belgium

FU, Congbin

Start Regional Center for Temperate East Asia, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, Chinese Academy of Science

China

FUJII, Yoshiyuki

Arctic Environment Research Center, National Institute of Polar Research

Japan

FUNG, Inez

University of California, Berkeley

USA

FURRER, Reinhard

Colorado School of Mines

USA, Switzerland

FUZZI, Sandro

National Research Council, Institute of Atmospheric Sciences and Climate

Italy

FYFE, John

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada

Canada

GANOPOLSKI, Andrey

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

GAO, Xuejie

Laboratory for Climate Change, National Climate Centre, China Meteorological Administration

China

GARCIA, Hernan

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Oceanographic Data Center

USA

GARCÍA-HERRERA, Ricardo

Universidad Complutense de Madrid

Spain

GAYE, Amadou Thierno

Laboratory of Atmospheric Physics, ESP/CAD, Dakar University

Senegal

GELLER, Marvin

Stony Brook University

USA

GENT, Peter

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

GERDES, Rüdiger

Alfred-Wegener-Institute für Polar und Meeresforschung

Germany

GILLETT, Nathan P.

Climatic Research Unit, School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia

UK

GIORGI, Filippo

Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics

Italy

GLEASON, Byron

National Climatic Data Center, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

GLECKLER, Peter

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

GONG, Sunling

Air Quality Researcch Division, Science & Technology Branch, Environment Canada

Canada

GONZÁLEZ-DAVÍLA, Melchor

University of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria

Spain

GONZÁLEZ-ROUCO, Jesus Fidel

Universidad Complutense de Madrid

Spain

GOOSSE, Hugues

Université catholique de Louvain

Belgium

GRAHAM, Richard

Hadley Centre, Met Office

UK

GREGORY, Jonathan M.

Department of Meteorology, University of Reading and Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

GRIESER, Jürgen

Deutscher Wetterdienst, Global Precipitatioin Climatology Centre

Germany

GRIGGS, David

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

GROISMAN, Pavel

University Corporation for Atmospheric Research at the National Climatic Data Center, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA, Russian Federation

GRUBER, Nicolas

Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, University of California, Los Angeles and Department of Environmental Sciences, ETH Zurich

USA, Switzerland

GUDGEL, Richard

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

GUDMUNDSSON, G. Hilmar

British Antarctic Survey

UK, Iceland

GUENTHER, Alex

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

GULEV, Sergey

P. P. Shirshov Institute of Oceanography

Russian Federation

GURNEY, Kevin

Department of Earth and Atmospheric Science, Purdue University

USA

GUTOWSKI, William

Iowa State University

USA

HAAS, Christian

Alfred Wegener Institute

Germany

HABIBI NOKHANDAN, Majid

National Center for Climatology

Iran

HAGEN, Jon Ove

University of Oslo

Norway

HAIGH, Joanna

Imperial College London

UK

HALL, Alex

Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of California, Los Angeles

USA

HALLEGATTE, Stéphane

Centre International de Recherche sur l’Environnement et le Developpement, Ecole Nationale des Ponts-et-Chaussées and Centre National de Recherches Meteorologique, Meteo-France

USA, France

HANAWA, Kimio

Physical Oceanography Laboratry, Department of Geophysics, Graduate School of Science, Tohoku University

Japan

HANSEN, James

Goddard Institute for Space Studies

USA

HANSSEN-BAUER, Inger

Norwegian Meteorological Institute

Norway

HARRIS, Charles

School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Science, Cardiff University

UK

HARRIS, Glen

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK, New Zealand

HARVEY, Danny

University of Toronto

Canada

HASUMI, Hiroyasu

Center for Climate System Research, University of Tokyo

Japan

HAUGLUSTAINE, Didier

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement, CEA-CNRS-UVSQ

France

HAYWOOD, James

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

HEGERL, Gabriele C.

Division of Earth and Ocean Sciences, Nicholas School for the Environment and Earth Sciences, Duke University

USA, Germany

HEIMANN, Martin

Max-Planck-Institut für Biogeochemie

Germany, Switzerland

HEINZE, Christoph

University of Bergen, Geophysical Institute and Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research

Norway, Germany

HELD, Isaac

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

USA

HENDERSON-SELLERS, Ann

World Meteorological Organization

Switzerland

HENDON, Henry

Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre

Australia

HEWITSON, Bruce

Department of Environmental and Geographical Sciences, University of Cape Town

South Africa

HINZMAN, Larry

University of Alaska, Fairbanks

USA

HOCK, Regine

Stockholm University

Sweden

HODGES, Kevin

Environmental Systems Science Centre

UK

HOELZLE, Martin

University of Zürich, Department of Geography

Switzerland

HOLLAND, Elisabeth

Atmospheric Chemistry Division, National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)

USA

HOLLAND, Marika

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

HOLTSLAG, Albert A. M.

Wageningen University

Netherlands

HOSKINS, Brian J.

Department of Meteorology, University of Reading

UK

HOUSE, Joanna

Quantifying and Understanding the Earth System Programme, University of Bristol

UK

HU, Aixue

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA, China

HUNKE, Elizabeth

Los Alamos National Laboratory

USA

HURRELL, James

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

HUYBRECHTS, Philippe

Departement Geografie, Vrije Universiteir Brussel

Belgium

INGRAM, William

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

ISAKSEN, Ketil

Norwegian Meteorological Institute

Norway

ISHII, Masayoshi

Fronteir Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology

Japan

JACOB, Daniel

Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Harvard University

USA, France

JALLOW, Bubu

Department of Water Resources

The Gambia

JANSEN, Eystein

University of Bergen, Department of Earth Sciences and Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research

Norway

JANSSON, Peter

Department of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University

Sweden

JENKINS, Adrian

British Antarctic Survey, Natural Environment Research Council

UK

JONES, Andy

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

JONES, Christopher

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

JONES, Colin

Universite du Quebec a Montreal, Canadian Regional Climate Modelling Network

Canada

JONES, Gareth S.

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

JONES, Julie

GKSS Research Centre

Germany, UK

JONES, Philip D.

Climatic Research Unit, School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia

UK

JONES, Richard

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

JOOS, Fortunat

Climate and Environmental Physics, Physics Institute, University of Bern

Switzerland

JOSEY, Simon

National Oceanography Centre, University of Southampton

UK

JOUGHIN, Ian

Applied Physics Laboratory, University of Washington

USA

JOUZEL, Jean

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement, CEA-CNRS-UVSQ

France

JOYCE, Terrence

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

USA

JUNGCLAUS, Johann H.

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology

Germany

KAGEYAMA, Masa

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

KÃ…LLBERG, Per

European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts

ECMWF

KÄRCHER, Bernd

Deutsches Zentrum für Luft und Raumfahrt, Institut für Physik der Atmosphäre

Germany

KARL, Thomas R.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

USA

KAROLY, David J.

University of Oklahoma

USA, Australia

KASER, Georg

Institut für Geographie, University of Innsbruck

Austria, Italy

KATTSOV, Vladimir

Voeikov Main Geophysical Observatory

Russian Federation

KATZ, Robert

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

KAWAMIYA, Michio

Frontier Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology

Japan

KEELING, C. David

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

USA

KEELING, Ralph

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

USA

KENNEDY, John

Hadley Centre, Met Office

UK

KENYON, Jesse

Duke University

USA

KETTLEBOROUGH, Jamie

British Atmospheric Data Centre, Space Science and Technology Department, Council for the Central Laboratory of the Research Councils

UK

KHARIN, Viatcheslar

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada

Canada

KHODRI, Myriam

Institut de Recherche Pour le Developpement

France

KILADIS, George

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

KIM, Kuh

Seoul National University

Republic of Korea

KIMOTO, Masahide

Center for Climate System Research, University of Tokyo

Japan

KING, Brian

National Oceanography Centre, Southampton

UK

KINNE, Stefan

Max-Planck Institute for Meteorology

Germany

KIRTMAN, Ben

Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies, George Mason University

USA

KITOH, Akio

First Research Laboratory, Climate Research Department, Meteorological Research Institute, Japan Meteorological Agency

Japan

KLEIN, Stephen A.

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

KLEIN TANK, Albert

Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI)

Netherlands

KNUTSON, Thomas

Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

KNUTTI, Reto

Climate and Global Dynamics Division, National Center for Atmospheric Research

Switzerland

KOERTZINGER, Arne

Leibniz Institut für Meereswissenschaften an der Universitat Kiel and Institut fur Ostseeforschung Warnemunde

Germany

KOIKE, Toshio

Department of Civil Engineering, University of Tokyo

Japan

KOLLI, Rupa Kumar

Climatology and Hydrometeorology Division, Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology

India

KOSTER, Randal

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

USA

KOTTMEIER, Christoph

Institut für Meteorologie, und Klimaforschung, Universitat Karlsruhe/Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe

Germany

KRIPALANI, Ramesh

Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology

India

KRYNYTZKY, Marta

University of Washington

USA

KUNKEL, Kenneth

Illinois State Water Survey

USA

KUSHNER, Paul J.

Department of Physics, University of Toronto

Canada

KWOK, Ron

Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology

USA

KWON, Won-Tae

Climate Research Laboratory, Meteorological Research Institute (METRI), Korean Meteorological Administration

Republic of Korea

LABEYRIE, Laurent

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

LAINE, Alexandre

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

LAM, Chiu-Ying

Hong Kong Observatory

China

LAMBECK, Kurt

Australia National University

Australia

LAMBERT, F. Hugo

Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics, University of Oxford

UK

LANZANTE, John

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

LAPRISE, René

Deprtement des Sciences de la Terra et de l’Atmosphere, University of Quebec at Montreal

Canada

LASSEY, Keith

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

LATIF, Mojib

Leibniz Institut für Meereswissenschaften, IFM-GEOMAR

Germany

LAU, Ngar-Cheung

Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

LAVAL, Katia

Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique du CNRS

France

LAVINE, Michael

Duke University

USA

LAWRENCE, David

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

LAWRIMORE, Jay

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

USA

LAXON, Seymour

Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling, University College London

UK

LE BROCQ, Anne

Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling, University of Bristol

UK

LE QUÉRÉ, Corrine

University of East Anglia and British Antarctic Survey

UK, France, Canada

LE TREUT, Hervé

Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique du CNRS

France

LEAN, Judith

Naval Research Laboratory

USA

LECK, Caroline

Department of Metorology, Stockholm University

Sweden

LEE, Terry C.K.

University of Victoria

Canada

LEE-TAYLOR, Julia

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA, UK

LEFEVRE, Nathalie

Institut de Recherche Pour le Developpement, Laboratoire d’Oceanographie et de Climatologie

France

LEMKE, Peter

Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research

Germany

LEULIETTE, Eric

University of Colorado, Boulder

USA

LEUNG, Ruby

Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

LEVERMANN, Anders

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

LEVINSON, David

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

USA

LEVITUS, Sydney

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

LIE, Øyvind

Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research

Norway

LIEPERT, Beate

Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University

USA

LIU, Shiyin

Cold and Arid Regions Environmental and Engineering Research Institute, Chinese Academy of Sciences

China

LOHMANN, Ulrike

ETH Zürich, Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science

Switzerland

LOUTRE, Marie-France

Université catholique de Louvain, Institut d’Astronomie et de Géophysique G. Lemaitre

Belgium

LOWE, David C.

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

LOWE, Jason

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

LUO, Yong

Laboratory for Climate Change, National Climate Centre, China Meteorological Administration

China

LUTERBACHER, Jürg

Institute of Geography, Climatology and Meteorology, and National Centre of Competence in Research on Climate, University of Bern

Switzerland

LYNCH, Amanda H.

School of Geography and Environmental Science, Monash University

Australia

MACAYEAL, Douglas

University of Chicago

USA

MACCRACKEN, Michael

Climate Institute

USA

MAGAÑA RUEDA, Victor

Centro de Ciencias de la Atmósfera, Ciudad Universitaria, Universidad Nacional Autonomia de Mexico

Mexico

MALHI, Yadvinder

University of Oxford

UK

MALANOTTE-RIZZOLI, Paola

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

USA, Italy

MANNING, Andrew C.

University of East Anglia

UK, New Zealand

MANNING, Martin

IPCC WGI TSU, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA, New Zealand

MANZINI, Elisa

National Institute for Geophysics and Volcanology

Italy

MARENGO ORSINI, Jose Antonio

CPTEC/INPE

Brazil, Peru

MARSH, Robert

National Oceanography Centre, University of Southampton

UK

MARSHALL, Gareth

British Antarctic Survey

UK

MARTELO, Maria

Ministerio del Ambiente y los Rcursos Naturales, Dir. de Hidrologia y Meteorologia

Venezuela

MASARIE , Ken

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory, Global Monitoring Division

USA

MASSON-DELMOTTE, Valérie

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

MATSUMOTO, Katsumi

University of Minnesota, Twin Cities

USA

MATSUNO, Taroh

Frontier Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology

Japan

MATTHEWS, H. Damon

University of Calgary and Concordia University

Canada

MATULLA, Christoph

Environment Canada

Canada, Austria

MAURITZEN, Cecilie

Norwegian Meteorological Institute

Norway

MCAVANEY, Bryant

Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre

Australia

MCFIGGANS, Gordon

University of Manchester

UK

MCINNES, Kathleen

CSIRO, Marine and Atmospheric Chemistry Research

Australia

MCPHADEN, Michael

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

MEARNS, Linda

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

MEARS, Carl

Remote Sensing Systems

USA

MEEHL, Gerald A.

Climate and Global Dynamics Division, National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

MEINSHAUSEN, Malte

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

MELLING, Humphrey

Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Canada

MENÉNDEZ, Claudio Guillermo

Centro de Investigaciones del Mar y de la Atmósfera, (CONICET-UBA)

Argentina

MENON, Surabi

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

USA

MESCHERSKAYA, Anna V.

Russian Federation

MILLER, John B.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

MILLOT, Claude

Centre National dela Recherche Scientifique

France

MILLY, Chris

United States Geological Survey

USA

MITCHELL, John

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

MOKSSIT, Abdalah

Direction de la météorologie Nationale

Morocco

MOLINA, Mario

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of California, San Diego

USA, Mexico

MOLINARI, Robert

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory

USA

MONAHAN, Adam H.

School of Earth and Ocean Sciences, University of Victoria

Canada

MONNIN, Eric

Climate and Environmental Physics, Physics Institute, University of Bern

Switzerland

MONTZKA, Steve

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

MOSLEY-THOMPSON, Ellen

Ohio State University

USA

MOTE, Philip

Climate Impacts Group, Joint Institute for the Study of the Atmosphere and Oceans (JIASO), University of Washington

USA

MUHS, Daniel

United States Geological Survey

USA

MULLAN, A. Brett

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

MÜLLER, Simon A.

Climate and Environmental Physics, Physics Institute, University of Bern

Switzerland

MURPHY, James M.

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

MUSCHELER, Raimund

Goddard Earth Sciences and Technology Center, University of Maryland & NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center, Climate & Radiation Branch

USA

MYHRE, Gunnar

Department of Geosciences, University of Oslo

Norway

NAKAJIMA, Teruyuki

Center for Climate System Research, University of Tokyo

Japan

NAKAMURA, Hisashi

Department of Earth, Planetary Science, University of Tokyo

Japan

NAWRATH, Susanne

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

NEREM, R. Steven

University of Colorado at Boulder

USA

NEW, Mark

Centre for the Environment, University of Oxford

UK

NGANGA, John

University of Nairobi

Kenya

NICHOLLS, Neville

Monash University

Australia

NODA, Akira

Meteorological Research Institute, Japan Meteorological Agency

Japan

NOJIRI, Yukihiro

Secretariat of Council for Science and Technology Policy, Cabinet Office

Japan

NOKHANDAN, Majid Habibi

Iranian Meteorological Organization

Iran

NORRIS, Joel

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

USA

NOZAWA, Toru

National Institute for Environmental Studies

Japan

OERLEMANS, Johannes

Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research, Utrecht University

Netherlands

OGALLO, Laban

IGAD Climate Prediction and Application Centre

Kenya

OHMURA, Atsumu

Swiss Federal Institute of Technology

Switzerland

OKI, Taikan

Institute of Industrial Science, The University of Tokyo

Japan

OLAGO, Daniel

Department of Geology, University of Nairobi

Kenya

ONO, Tsuneo

Hokkaido National Fisheries Research Institute, Fisheries Research Agency

Japan

OPPENHEIMER, Michael

Princeton University

USA

ORAM, David

University of East Anglia

UK

ORR, James C.

Marine Environment Laboratories, International Atomic Energy Agency

Monaco, USA

OSBORN, Tim

University of East Anglia

UK

O’SHAUGHNESSY, Kath

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

OTTO-BLIESNER, Bette

Climate and Global Dynamics Division, National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

OVERPECK, Jonathan

Institute for the Study of Planet Earth, University of Arizona

USA

PAASCHE, Øyvind

Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research

Norway

PAHLOW, Markus

Dalhousie University, Bedford Institute of Oceanography

Canada

PAL, Jeremy S.

Loyola Marymount University, The Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics

USA, Italy

PALMER, Timothy

European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasting

ECMWF, UK

PANT, Govind Ballabh

Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology

India

PARKER, David

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

PARRENIN, Frédéric

Laboratoire de Glaciologie et Géophysique de l’Environnement

France

PAVLOVA, Tatyana

Voeikov Main Geophysical Observatory

Russian Federation

PAYNE, Antony

University of Bristol

UK

PELTIER, W. Richard

Department of Physics, University of Toronto

Canada

PENG, Tsung-Hung

Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

PENNER, Joyce E.

Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic, and Space Sciences, University of Michigan

USA

PETERSON, Thomas

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

USA

PETOUKHOV, Vladimir

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

PEYLIN, Philippe

Laboratoire des Modélisation du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

PFISTER, Christian

University of Bern

Switzerland

PHILLIPS, Thomas

Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

PIERCE, David

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

USA

PIPER, Stephen

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

USA

PITMAN, Andrew

Department of Physical Geography, Macquarie University

Australia

PLANTON, Serge

Météo-France

France

PLATTNER, Gian-Kasper

Climate and Environmental Physics, Physics Institute, University of Bern

Switzerland

PLUMMER, David

Environment Canada

Canada

POLLACK, Henry

University of Michigan

USA

PONATER, Michael

Deutsches Zentrum für Luft und Raumfahrt, Institut für Physik der Atmosphäre

Germany

POWER, Scott

Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre

Australia

PRATHER, Michael

Earth System Science Department, University of California at Irvine

USA

PRINN, Ronald

Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

USA, New Zealand

PROSHUTINSKY, Andrey

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

USA

PROWSE, Terry

Environment Canada, University of Victoria

Canada

QIN, Dahe

Co-Chair, IPCC WGI, China Meteorological Administration

China

QIU, Bo

University of Hawaii

USA

QUAAS, Johannes

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology

Germany

QUADFASEL, Detlef

Institut für Meereskunde, Centre for Marine and Atmospheric Sciences Hamburg

Germany

RAGA, Graciela

Centro de Ciencias de la Atmósfera, Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico

Mexico, Argentina

RAHIMZADEH, Fatemeh

Atmospheric Science & Meteorological Research Center (ASMERC), I.R. of Iran Meteorological Organization (IRIMO)

Iran

RAHMSTORF, Stefan

Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Germany

RÄISÄNEN, Jouni

Department of Physical Sciences, University of Helsinki

Finland

RAMACHANDRAN, Srikanthan

Space & Atmospheric Sciences Division, Physical Research Laboratory

India

RAMANATHAN, Veerabhadran

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

USA

RAMANKUTTY, Navin

University of Wisconsin, Madison

USA, India

RAMASWAMY, Venkatachalam

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

USA

RAMESH, Rengaswamy

Physical Research Laboratory

India

RANDALL, David A.

Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University

USA

RAPER, Sarah C.B.

Manchester Metropolitan University

UK

RAUP, Bruce H.

National Snow and Ice Data Center, University of Colorado

USA

RAUPACH, Michael

CSIRO

Australia

RAYMOND, Charles

University of Washington, Department of Earth and Space Sciences

USA

RAYNAUD, Dominique

Laboratoire de Glaciologie et Géophysique de l’Environnement

France

RAYNER, Peter

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France

REHDER, Gregor

Leibniz Institut für Meereswissenschaften an der Universitat Kiel and Institut fur Ostseeforschung Warnemunde

Germany

REID, George

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

REN, Jiawen

Cold and Arid Regions Environmental and Engineering Research Institute, Chinese Academy of Sciences

China

RENSSEN, Hans

Faculty of Earth and Life Sciences, Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam

Netherlands

RENWICK, James A.

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

RIEBESELL, Ulf

Leibniz Institute for Marine Sciences, IFM-GEOMAR

Germany

RIGNOT, Eric

Jet Propulsion Laboratory

USA

RIGOR, Ignatius

Polar Science Center, Applied Physics Laboratory, University of Washington

USA

RIND, David

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Goddard Institute for Space Studies

USA

RINKE, Annette

Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research

Germany

RINTOUL, Stephen

CSIRO, Marine and Atmospheric Research and Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre

Australia

RIXEN, Michel

University of Liege and NATO Undersea Research Center

NATO, Belgium

RIZZOLI, Paola

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

USA, Italy

ROBERTS, Malcolm

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

ROBERTSON, Franklin R.

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

USA

ROBINSON, David

Rutgers University

USA

RÖDENBECK, Christian

Max Planck Institute for Biogeochemistry Jena

Germany

ROECKNER, Erich

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology

Germany

ROSATI, Anthony

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

ROSENLOF, Karen

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

ROTHROCK, David

University of Washington

USA

ROTSTAYN, Leon

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

ROULET, Nigel

McGill University

Canada

RUMMUKAINEN, Markku

Rossby Centre, Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute

Sweden, Finland

RUSSELL, Gary L.

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Goddard Institute for Space Studies

USA

RUSTICUCCI, Matilde

Departamento de Ciencias de la Atmósfera y los Océanos, FCEN, Universidad de Buenos Aires

Argentina

SABINE, Christopher

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory

USA

SAHAGIAN, Dork

Lehigh University

USA

SALAS Y MÉLIA, David

Météo-France, Centre National de Recherches Météorologiques

France

SANTER, Ben D.

Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

SARR, Abdoulaye

Service Météorologique, DMN Sénégal

Senegal

SAUSEN, Robert

Deutsches Zentrum für Luft und Raumfahrt, Institut für Physik der Atmosphäre

Germany

SCHÄR, Christoph

ETH Zürich, Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science

Switzerland

SCHERRER, Simon Christian

Federal Office of Meteorology and Climatology MeteoSwiss

Switzerland

SCHMIDT, Gavin

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Goddard Institute for Space Studies

USA, UK

SCHMITTNER, Andreas

College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University

USA, Germany

SCHNEIDER, Birgit

Leibniz Institut für Meereswissenschaften

Germany

SCHOTT, Friedrich

Leibniz Institut für Meereswissenschaften, IFM-GEOMAR

Germany

SCHULTZ , Martin G.

Max Planck Institute for Meteorology

Germany

SCHULZ, Michael

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement, CEA-CNRS-UVSQ

France, Germany

SCHWARTZ, Stephen E.

Brookhaven National Laboratory

USA

SCHWARZKOPF, Dan

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

SCINOCCA, John

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada

Canada

SEIDOV, Dan

Pennsylvania State University

USA

SEMAZZI, Fred H.

North Carolina State University

USA

SENIOR, Catherine

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

SEXTON, David

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

SHEA, Dennis

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

SHEPHERD, Andrew

School of Geosciences, The University of Ediburgh

UK

SHEPHERD, J. Marshall

University of Georgia, Department of Geography

USA

SHEPHERD, Theodore G.

University of Toronto

Canada

SHERWOOD, Steven

Yale University

USA

SHUKLA, Jagadish

Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies, George Mason University

USA

SHUM, C.K.

Geodetic Science, School of Earth Sciences, The Ohio State University

USA

SIEGMUND, Peter

Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI)

Netherlands

SILVA DIAS, Pedro Leite da

Universidade de Sao Paulo

Brazil

SIMMONDS, Ian

University of Melbourne

Australia

SIMMONS, Adrian

European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts

ECMWF, UK

SIROCKO, Frank

University of Mainz

Germany

SLATER, Andrew G.

Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, University of Colorado, Boulder

USA, Australia

SLINGO, Julia

National Centre for Atmospheric Science, University of Reading

UK

SMITH, Doug

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

SMITH, Sharon

Geological Survey of Canada, Natural Resources Canada

Canada

SODEN, Brian

University of Miami, Rosentiel School for Marine and Atmospheric Science

USA

SOKOLOV, Andrei

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

USA, Russian Federation

SOLANKI, Sami K.

Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research

Germany, Switzerland

SOLOMINA, Olga

Institute of Geography RAS

Russian Federation

SOLOMON, Susan

Co-Chair, IPCC WGI, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Earth System Research Laboratory

USA

SOMERVILLE, Richard

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

USA

SOMOT, Samuel

Météo-France, Centre National de Recherches Météorologiques

France

SONG, Yuhe

Jet Propulsion Laboratory

USA

SPAHNI, Renato

Climate and Environmental Physics, Physics Institute, University of Bern

Switzerland

SRINIVASAN, Jayaraman

Centre for Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, Indian Institute of Science

India

STAINFORTH, David

Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics, Department of Physics, University of Oxford

UK

STAMMER, Detlef

Institut fuer Meereskunde Zentrum fuer Meeres und Klimaforschung Universitaet Hamburg

Germany

STANIFORTH, Andrew

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

STARK, Sheila

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

STEFFEN, Will

Australian National University

Australia

STENCHIKOV, Georgiy

Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey

USA

STERN, William

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

STEVENSON, David

University of Edinburgh

UK

STOCKER, Thomas F.

Climate and Environmental Physics, Physics Institute, University of Bern

Switzerland

STONE, Daíthí A.

University of Oxford

UK, Canada

STOTT, Lowell D.

Department of Earth Sciences, University of Southern California

USA

STOTT, Peter A.

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

STOUFFER, Ronald J.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

USA

STUBER, Nicola

Department of Meteorology, University of Reading

UK, Germany

SUDO, Kengo

Nagoya University

Japan

SUGA, Toshio

Tohoku University

Japan

SUMI, Akimasa

Center for Climate System Research, University of Tokyo

Japan

SUPPIAH, Ramasamy

CSIRO

Australia

SWEENEY, Colm

Princeton University

USA

TADROSS, Mark

Climate Systems Analysis Group, University of Cape Town

South Africa

TAKEMURA, Toshihiko

Research Institute for Applied Mechanics, Kyushu University

Japan

TALLEY, Lynne D.

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

USA

TAMISIEA, Mark

Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

USA

TAYLOR, Karl E.

Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

USA

TEBALDI, Claudia

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

TENG, Haiyan

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA, China

TENNANT, Warren

South African Weather Service

South Africa

TERRAY, Laurent

Eoropean Centre for Research and Advanced Training in Scientific Computation

France

TETT, Simon

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

TEXTOR, Christiane

Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement

France, Germany

THOMAS, Robert H.

EG&G Technical Services, Inc. and Centro de Estudios Cientificos (CECS)

USA, Chile

THOMPSON, Lonnie

Ohio State University

USA

THORNCROFT, Chris

Department of Earth and Atmospheric Science, University at Albany, SUNY

USA, UK

THORNE, Peter

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

TIAN, Yuhong

Georgia Institute of Technology

USA, China

TRENBERTH, Kevin E.

Climate Analysis Section, National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

TSELIOUDIS, George

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Goddard Institute for Space Studies, Columbia University

USA, Greece

TSIMPLIS, Michael

National Oceanography Centre, University of Southampton

UK, Greece

UNNIKRISHNAN, Alakkat S.

National Institute of Oceanography

India

UPPALA, Sakari

European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts

ECMWF

VAN DE WAL, Roderik Sylvester Willo

Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research, Utrecht University

Netherlands

VAN DORLAND, Robert

Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI)

Netherlands

VAN NOIJE, Twan

Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI)

Netherlands

VAUGHAN, David

British Antarctic Survey

UK

VILLALBA, Ricardo

Departmento de Dendrocronología e Historia Ambiental, Instituto Argentino de Novologia, Glaciologia y Ciencias Ambientales (IANIGLA - CRICYT)

Argentina

VOLODIN, Evgeny M.

Institute of Numerical Mathematics of Russian Academy of Sciences

Russian Federation

VOSE, Russell

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

USA

WAELBROECK, Claire

Institut Pierre Simon Laplace, Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement, CNRS

France

WALSH, John

University of Alaska

USA

WANG, Bin

National Key Laboratory of Numerical Modeling for Atmospheric Sciences and Geophysical Fluid Dynamics, institute of Atmospheric Physics, Chinese Academy of Sciences

China

WANG, Bin

University of Hawaii

USA

WANG, Minghuai

Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic, and Space Sciences, University of Michigan

USA

WANG, Ray

Georgia Institute of Technology

USA

WANNINKHOF, Rik

Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

WARREN, Stephen

University of Washington

USA

WASHINGTON, Richard

UK, South Africa

WATTERSON, Ian G.

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

WEAVER, Andrew J.

School of Earth and Ocean Sciences, University of Victoria

Canada

WEBB, Mark

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

WEISHEIMER, Antje

European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasting and Free University, Berlin

ECMWF, Germany

WEISS, Ray

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

USA

WHEELER, Matthew

Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre

Australia

WHETTON, Penny

CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research

Australia

WHORF, Tim

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego

USA

WIDMANN, Martin

GKSS Research Centre, Geesthacht and School of Geography, Earth and Envrionmental Sciences, University of Birmingham

Germany, UK

WIELICKI, Bruce

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Langley Research Center

USA

WIGLEY, Tom M.L.

National Center for Atmospheric Research

USA

WILBY, Rob

Environment Agency of England and Wales

UK

WILD, Martin

ETH Zürich, Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Sciencce

Switzerland

WILD, Oliver

Frontier Research Center for Global Change, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology

Japan, UK

WILES, Gregory

The College of Wooster

USA

WILLEBRAND, Jürgen

Leibniz Institut für Meereswissenschaften an der Universität Kiel

Germany

WILLIS, Josh

Jet Propulsion Laboratory

USA

WOFSY, Steven C.

Division of Engineering and Applied Science, Harvard University

USA

WONG, A.P.S.

School of Oceanography, University of Washington

USA, Australia

WONG, Takmeng

National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Langley Research Center

USA

WOOD, Richard A.

Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research, Met Office

UK

WOODWORTH, Philip

Proudman Oceanographic Laboratory

UK

WORBY, Anthony

Australian Antarctic Division and Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre

Australia

WRATT, David

National Climate Centre, National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research

New Zealand

WUERTZ, David

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

USA

WYMAN, Bruce L.

Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

USA

XU, Li

Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic, and Space Sciences, University of Michigan

USA, China

YAMADA, Tomomi

Japanese Society of Snow and Ice

Japan

YASHAYAEV, Igor

Maritimes Region of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans

Canada

YASUDA, Ichiro

University of Tokyo

Japan

YOSHIMURA, Jun

Meteorological Research Institute

Japan

YU, Rucong

China Meteorological Administration

China

YUKIMOTO, Seiji

Meteorological Research Institute

Japan

ZACHOS, James

University of California, Santa Cruz

USA

ZHAI, Panmao

National Climate Center, China Meteorological Administration

China

ZHANG, De’er

National Climate Center, China Meteorological Administration

China

ZHANG, Tingjun

National Snow and Ice Data Center, CIRES, University of Colorado at Boulder

USA, China

ZHANG, Xiaoye

Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences, Centre for Atmophere Watch & Services

China

ZHANG, Xuebin

Climate Research Division, Environment Canada

Canada

ZHAO, Lin

Cold and Arid Regions Environmental and Engineering Research Institute, Chinese Academy of Science

China

ZHAO, Zong-Ci

National Climate Center, China Meteorological Administration

China

ZHENGTENG, Guo

Institute of Geology and Geophysics, Chinese Academy of Science

China

ZHOU, Liming

Georgia Institute of Technology

USA, China

ZORITA, Eduardo

Helmholtz Zentrum Geesthacht

Germany, Spain

ZWIERS, Francis

Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis, Environment Canada

Canada

Trying to name them all would be just too time consuming.
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BTS;656231 wrote: Scientist in the field ONLY........
Agreed. Could you edit your former post and remove:

Sallie Baliunas, astronomer

David Bellamy, environmental campaigner,

Robert M. Carter, geologist

George V. Chilingar, Professor of Civil and Petroleum Engineering

Ian Clark, hydrogeologist

Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology

Tad Murty, oceanographer;adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences

Ian Plimer, Professor of Mining Geology

Frederick Seitz, retired, former solid-state physicist

Nir Shaviv, astrophysicist

Willie Soon, astrophysicist

Henrik Svensmark, Danish National Space Center:

David Deming, geology professor

and

Sherwood Idso, former research physicist

Thanks.
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BTS;656216 wrote: Just a FEW that DISAGREE or have a OPEN mind.




Yeah. A very few.

If you, rather than talking individual poeple on this little planet of 6 billion, you could look at the statements by scientific organistaions (such as is done on this wiki page) - The only dissenting opinion in over a dozen scientific organisations is the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. And there's a possible professional bias there.

Or, if you look at published scientific reasearch, as is done in this essay, there are no dissenting papers amongst the 928 that were filed with the ISI keywords "Global climate change".

So I think that dissenting scientific opinion that actually exists is pretty negiligible.
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mikeinie;655619 wrote: I think the whole argument on global warming is beside the point, why do we always need a global crisis before we start doing what is right? Even if global warming was not happening, we should as responsible citizens of the earth, do what we can to protect it as it is our only source of life.

We should be looking for alternative energies; we should recycle and reduce waist and reduce pollution because it is the right thing to do.

As far as the looming crisis¦ I don’t know. The world was suppose to end with Y2K as well, remember all the computers were suppose to shut down causing chaos and confusion at the turn of the century leading to defence systems launching missile strikes bla lbla bla.



The world is changing, with the economies of China and India growing, it will be difficult to off set their increased levels of pollution, but we need to continue finding ways to protect our planet.


I object, strenuously, to this one. We bust a gut stopping a crisis and people assume that, because it didn't happen, we were making it up.

The company I work for spent about £5M on Y2K - I personally waded through a large proportion of 1.3 million lines of code looking for problems and specing the changes required. There followed thousands of man hours of coding and testing to ensure that our one system would continue to work over the two month period around the millenium whilst everyone else was partying - and the result? No-one believes it was real!

Imagine if none of you plastic cards would work in the high street or in the ATM. Imagine if all of the banks shut down because they'd lost you accounts. Imagine if all of the transportation schedules had crashed and nothing was moving - worse still if planes were dropping out of the sky because their navigation and autopilots crashed. Imagine if global communications failed because satelites were no longer where they were expected to be.

All of that would have happened if we'd taken no action - but it's a myth because it didn't.

Imagine, in fifty years time when the next global extinction happens - because it's all a myth isn't it.
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buttercup;654284 wrote: I'd like to see a sub forum on global warming here, i'm amazed there's not :-2

Anyway my first question on this subject is

Do you really think 'concerts' for global warming will help?

Of course it will raise public awareness but considering all the big pop stars have to fly in, well there's the clue.

Your thoughts?


I doubt public awareness needs to be raised. The entire plsnet seems to be aware of an event that is not going to happen. We will have another ice age before we have global warming..

My question is..........Why does anyone else doubt it????

This is a natural global cycle of warming and cooling. The leadsers of the world have not listened to the scientists.

Ass hole leaders who have degrees in law rather than science. The science people who agree with them are hoping for grants for their projects.
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spot;655529 wrote: I'm reminded of the slow defensive retreat of the tobacco companies over the second half of the 20th century. They bought scientists with grant money in exchange for equivocal views on linking tobacco use with lung cancer and other health problems. Armed with those articles they used the argument that the scientific community was divided on the issue and that there was no consensus one way or the other within the scientific community. It was a cynical and deliberate manipulation of public opinion but also a vital tool in lobbying governments to delay any introduction of health measures. This time round it's a few governments themselves who are creating the "scientific opinion is divided" pressure groups.


From net.org :

Scientist Who Spearheaded Attacks on Global Warming Science Also Directed $45 Million Tobacco Industry Effort to Hide Health Impacts of Smoking

Former National Academy of Sciences President Admits Being Paid $585,000 by Tobacco Companies





The National Environmental Trust hosted a press conference on April 13th to discuss new revelations in the May issue of Vanity Fair (now on newsstands) linking one of the most prominent scientific skeptics on global warming and his tactics to the three-decade tobacco industry conspiracy to hide the connection between smoking and lung ailments — an effort that has led to billions of dollars in court judgments and legislation against the industry.




http://www.net.org/warming/skeptic.vtml
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nvalleyvee;657026 wrote: We will have another ice age before we have global warming..


I wonder where you got that idea? Would you mind telling me? It's just that there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding out there and I'm not sure where it comes from.

We already have global warming:



And the next ice age wasn't due for about 100,000 years.



But we're not longer expecting it because human greenhouse emissions are greater than the difference in greenhouse gas concentrations between the bottom of an ice age and the top of an interglacial peroiod:



nvalleyvee;657026 wrote: This is a natural global cycle of warming and cooling.
No it's not. As you can see from the CO2 concentrations during the ice ages compared to what they're doing now, this is very much not part of a natural cycle, which would be in a 100,000 year slow decline into an ice age, not the dramatic warming that we are seeing.

nvalleyvee;657026 wrote: The leadsers of the world have not listened to the scientists.
You're right there, if you mean the Bush administration. Moreover they are attempting to sensor scientists:Censorship Is Alleged at NOAA

Scientists Afraid to Speak Out, NASA Climate Expert Reports

One of the problems with a democracy. Any bad effects outside the term of government are discounted by those in power.

nvalleyvee;657026 wrote: The science people who agree with them are hoping for grants for their projects.


No, they're taking blood money from fossil fuel interests.

But at least it is clear that by far the majority believe that the current warming is anthorpogenic.

An analysis of the 928 research papers published 1993-2003 with the ISI keywords "global climate change" found that not one argued that the warming of the last 50 years is natural. (see: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change).

And the scientific societies that have released statements support the consensus tool ... with the exception of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. :thinking: (see:Scientific opinion on climate change)
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Ptolemy’s model of the Earth as the centre of the Universe was used for almost 1500 years until the late 17th century when it began to be replaced by the models determined by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler. No doubt Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler were also described as “not reputable scientists in their day. Where now are the people who might have thus described them? I am not a scientist myself and so I can only go by what I read, but it does not pay to be too dogmatic, and blindly accept the popular perception.



I can only go by what I see myself and during the past few years I have seen no sign of the weather getting warmer in my area. In fact last Winter we had a return to the icy conditions I have not seen for thirty years. Yes I know it’s a “global thing rather than a local one, but one has to trust one’s own experience .
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Dorcha;1342355 wrote: Ptolemy’s model of the Earth as the centre of the Universe was used for almost 1500 years until the late 17th century when it began to be replaced by the models determined by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler. No doubt Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler were also described as “not reputable scientists” in their day. Where now are the people who might have thus described them? I am not a scientist myself and so I can only go by what I read, but it does not pay to be too dogmatic, and blindly accept the popular perception.

I can only go by what I see myself and during the past few years I have seen no sign of the weather getting warmer in my area. In fact last Winter we had a return to the icy conditions I have not seen for thirty years. Yes I know it’s a “global” thing rather than a local one, but one has to trust one’s own experience .


As you say, it's a global thing not a local one.

If you take a complex steady state system and suddenly change one of the parameters then the result is a chaotic state until the new parameter has been integrated into the system and a new steady state emerges. During the period of instability local condition can move counter to expectation - what is important is the overall position.

We used to have a member here who claimed that deforestation was not happening in the world because he could see just as many trees as ever from his back door - you have to look beyond your local environs to see the big picture.
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Lon;654336 wrote: What I find interesting is the number of eminently qualified scientists that do not agree on Global Warming. Who to believe? Each side seems to have an agenda.


Those "eminent" scientists invariably turn out to be oil industry-funded bagmen, every time a closer look is taken regarding their credentials and who is the ultimate source of their funding. They publish almost no scientific research themselves, and spend most of their time making public appearances with the intention of casting doubt on anthropogenic global warming. There is no consistency among the various so-called climate change skeptics: some claim there is no evidence that the Earth is now getting warmer; others concede that global mean temperature is rising, but claim it's caused by the Sun or other natural processes; some so called skeptics will even concede the entire argument, but try to argue that stopping rising CO2 levels is impossible, and we need to adapt to the changes.

The variety of nuanced skeptic arguments do not have to be consistent, because they are not even attempting to present any scientific claims. Their strategy is just to further muddy the waters and confuse the public. If people watch TV, and idiots in the media decide fairness means inviting skeptics on discussions of climate change -- the audience sees another panel of so-called experts arguing and trying to talk over each other.....and the Exxon-funded deniers have done their job!
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Dorcha;1342355 wrote: Ptolemy’s model of the Earth as the centre of the Universe was used for almost 1500 years until the late 17th century when it began to be replaced by the models determined by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler. No doubt Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler were also described as “not reputable scientists” in their day. Where now are the people who might have thus described them? I am not a scientist myself and so I can only go by what I read, but it does not pay to be too dogmatic, and blindly accept the popular perception.
It's not really a valid comparison to start with, since they all lived before the modern scientific method and systems of peer review were established.

I can only go by what I see myself and during the past few years I have seen no sign of the weather getting warmer in my area. In fact last Winter we had a return to the icy conditions I have not seen for thirty years.
I don't know where you live; so I can't speak about the weather in your area, but it would be a mistake to interpret Global Warming as meaning that it's going to be warmer everywhere. In fact, global warming can be a direct cause of winter storms in some areas. For example: last winter's heavy snowfall throughout the U.S. seems to be directly connected to the rapid melt of Arctic sea ice. It certainly hasn't been as cold as usual in the Arctic, and the net effect was a reversal of normal Arctic winter conditions of low atmospheric air pressure. The Arctic high pressure system broke through the jet stream many times last winter, causing snowstorms as far south as Texas. http://climatesignals.org/2010/10/winte ... te-change/

Yes I know it’s a “global” thing rather than a local one, but one has to trust one’s own experience .
No, you can't trust "one's own experience" on this sort of issue. You have to gather a range of measurements around the world to arrive at the global mean temperature.......which btw has risen 1 degree celsius. That may not sound like much, but consider that every 1 degree rise in global average temperature represents a 7% increase in the amount of moisture being added to the Earth's atmosphere. It's because of this increase that there has been a marked increase in severe weather events around the world. Now consider that global average temperature will continue to rise somewhere between 4 and 6 degrees celsius by the end of this century, and that tells us that the effects will be catastrophic.....maybe the end of civilization or worse!
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National Climatic Data Center

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BsNAUboeko4/S ... atures.jpg

And this is up to 2009............NOT 2000 as you used
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BTS;1343124 wrote: National Climatic Data Center

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BsNAUboeko4/S ... atures.jpg

And this is up to 2009............NOT 2000 as you used


Go on then, what does the graph show (it does not say and, presented in isolation as it is, there is no way of guessing) and what data is it based on?
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Bryn Mawr;1343143 wrote: Go on then, what does the graph show (it does not say and, presented in isolation as it is, there is no way of guessing) and what data is it based on?


Oil funded climate change denial science has only one objective: create confusion! They don't have to prove a point -- they can say the Earth isn't getting warmer, than shift to - okay, it's getting warmer, but it's not caused by people -- next comes Richard Lindzen, who says yes, the Earth is getting warmer and yes it's manmade, but don't worry - atmospheric CO2 levels will plateau for some magical reason and the Earth won't get any warmer no matter how much crap we pump into the atmosphere -- and finally, we come to the 'yes, it's all true' strategy of Bjorn Lomborg - who says we may as well just keep doing what we're doing, and try to adapt to upcoming major changes in climate because there's nothing we can do to stop it!

Meanwhile, atmospheric CO2 levels keep rising every year; polar ice keeps getting thinner and ice caps keep shrinking; ocean acidification keeps increasing etc. etc., and yet somehow a multimillion dollar, multi-level disinformation campaign, run by the major oil and coal companies convinces a majority of people that there's no evidence for global warming!
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