The Neanderthal thinking man.

[Ahso!]

Mickiel;1346714 wrote: I hold no obligation to tell you anything. I am not interested in you.

This is an example of the Neanderthal thinking man, just charge right ahead and make his point. Make it his conversation, make it his world. And I am going to go into why men do these things. But I am going to use this mans attitude to show a live example of this.

Peace.But you do hold an obligation to yourself, don't you?

[Mickiel]

Ahso!;1346715 wrote: But you do hold an obligation to yourself, don't you?




Here we have a man engaging in a conversation where the other man holds no intrest in what he is saying. Most men would get the message, but the Neanderthal thinking man will charge right ahead and try to force it, you know, make something out of it, because " His Points" are alive and burning within him, he must be heard. Most women stand no chance against this in a relationship, they get brushed over. This mans views must be heard, he must get his way.

Maturity is knowing that you cannot get your way all the time. Let me show you why this is difficult for the Neanderthal thinking man.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Well I am glad to see that Asho has backed off, I didnot want to use him as an example. I just wanted to get back to topic. As I look back at my worst mistakes in my life, literally everytime it was the result of my own thinking. My failed relationships, my failed jobs, my failed attempts at education. All could be traced to my own mind. And I want to go into how this can lead a man to a crossroad of just how he should think.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

There is always the temptation to be like your mom or dad, you know, think like them, that is if you honored how they thought. They should have been the most important influences in your life, thats why parenting is so important, its " The molding of the mind." From birth we SHOULD have been taught that we cannot always have our way. Sadly, some have not been taught that, momma gave that bottle up every time we cried. And continued to pacify us everytime we whined. Some just spoiled their children, and that is a beginning of Neanderthal thinking.

Peace.

[Ahso!]

I hope you never have or will raise children until you actually think about what you say. Infant crying is their form of communication. The trick to parenting is to figure out how to interpret those communication, however, being suspicious that an infant is trying to manipulate an adult from the get-go is just plain wrong.

[Mickiel]

Ahso!;1346792 wrote: I hope you never have or will raise children until you actually think about what you say. Infant crying is their form of communication. The trick to parenting is to figure out how to interpret those communication, however, being suspicious that an infant is trying to manipulate an adult from the get-go is just plain wrong.




Well again, I disagree with this " Fault finding", your not thinking, your desire to find fault in what I say, is greater than your thinking about what I said, typical of Neanderthal thinking. When and infant cries, the parent must first determine why? As opposed to shoving a bottle into their mouths. They may cry for definte reasons; pain somewhere, find that pain, Irritation from position they are in, lack of sleep, too much milk, something in the room is disturbing them such as noise, or its too hot or cold in the room. They may want to be held- not fed! They may just want to see you there, not have a bottle stuck in their mouths to be a " Solve all!"

Peace.

[Ahso!]

Mickiel;1346795 wrote: Well again, I disagree with this " Fault finding", your not thinking, your desire to find fault in what I say, is greater than your thinking about what I said, typical of Neanderthal thinking. When and infant cries, the parent must first determine why? As opposed to shoving a bottle into their mouths. They may cry for definte reasons; pain somewhere, find that pain, Irritation from position they are in, lack of sleep, too much milk, something in the room is disturbing them such as noise, or its too hot or cold in the room. They may want to be held- not fed! They may just want to see you there, not have a bottle stuck in their mouths to be a " Solve all!"

Peace.You're changing your tone. Here's what you said above.Mickiel;1346790 wrote: There is always the temptation to be like your mom or dad, you know, think like them, that is if you honored how they thought. They should have been the most important influences in your life, thats why parenting is so important, its " The molding of the mind." From birth we SHOULD have been taught that we cannot always have our way. Sadly, some have not been taught that, momma gave that bottle up every time we cried. And continued to pacify us everytime we whined. Some just spoiled their children, and that is a beginning of Neanderthal thinking.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Ahso!;1346798 wrote: You're changing your tone. Here's what you said above.




Keep searching for that fault Asho, that leak, that weakness that you can devour. Target me for termination and go after that kill! Such is the approach of the Neanderthal thinking man in all things, even debate. Go for the jugular vein, get your way, live for that way, press hard that way, until it becomes all that you know and do. I would rather not use such an example, but you relentlessly present it, and its on topic.

No matter the subject or situation, the spirit of the Neanderthal thinking man MUST prevail, at all cost! As I have stated, it would rather ruin a relationship than to admit its wrong, ruin a debate in that same thinking.

And I want to examine why.

Peace.

[Ahso!]

You know what I think, Mickey. I think the person you described in the OP is you, and you're attempting self-psychoanalysis with this thread. I admire your courage to try this, and it is possible to do, but unless you have someone reflecting back what you're saying, it will most likely be fruitless.

[Ahso!]

Now that I understand what you're doing, I promise to be more deliberate with my choice of words..

[Mickiel]

Ahso!;1346800 wrote: You know what I think, Mickey. I think the person you described in the OP is you, and you're attempting self-psychoanalysis with this thread. I admire your courage to try this, and it is possible to do, but unless you have someone reflecting back what you're saying, it will most likely be fruitless.




Search Ahso, find that fault, get to that weakness, put me down that you may rise. Criticise, condemn, tear apart, shove your agenda down my mouth and crush my every word. Go to war with your words.

This is the nature of Neanderthal thinking, its primordal and often emotionless. And we have leaders of nations who come to the negotiation tables with this kind of mentality;" What can your nation do for me?" And we wonder why we have wars. Men bring this approach into their relationships, and we wonder why the divorce rate is soaring so high. These men raise their children like this, and we look at our teens and wonder whats wrong with them.

The world we see is a deadly mixture of Neanderthal thinking, verses reasonable thinking;

Who holds the advantage? Let me show you the results of that question in our history.

Peace.

[Ahso!]

Are you worried you're headed for divorce? Have you been blamed for mistakes your kids have made, and that they are a reflection of your emotionless attitudes?

Young people make mistakes naturally, it's really not a question of fault most of the time.

[Mickiel]

Ahso!;1346806 wrote: Are you worried you're headed for divorce? Have you been blamed for mistakes your kids have made, and that they are a reflection of your emotionless attitudes?

Young people make mistakes naturally, it's really not a question of fault most of the time.




I have been single 25 years, my children are doing very well and have made no life crippling mistakes, I am very proud of them. My daughter has two masters and teachs math, my son is a star athlete and straight A student. Search Ahso search, find that fault, probe for that weakness, you know its there, you just have to find it. Get under that rug, dive into the debate that you live for, entertain your " Self", gain the " Advantage in this debate."

And I want to go into the Spirit of ' Advantage."

Peace.

[Mickiel]

In our world many are trying to " Take Advantage" of so many things. People are cheating the government on food stamps, while others need that. People are taking advantage of grants for schools, sports scholarships, so many things, and its not getting any better. They disobey rules in order to get what they want. Men take advantage of women, and do so with ease. Then we have those who take advantage of the ignorance of others, its a " Doggy Dog World", and good will is often left behind.

Where did this " Behavior" come from? Why is it in man?

Peace.

[Ahso!]

Mickiel;1346828 wrote: In our world many are trying to " Take Advantage" of so many things. People are cheating the government on food stamps, while others need that. People are taking advantage of grants for schools, sports scholarships, so many things, and its not getting any better. They disobey rules in order to get what they want. Men take advantage of women, and do so with ease. Then we have those who take advantage of the ignorance of others, its a " Doggy Dog World", and good will is often left behind.

Where did this " Behavior" come from? Why is it in man?

Peace.You mean dog-eat-dog world?

[Mickiel]

The world is increasingly cold and selfish and is loosing its balance, men just don't know how to think like men anymore. And women are beginning to lead in many areas that men have abdicated. They lead our families, here in America they lead our workforce. They lead in single parent homes by far.

Where have all the men gone?

Peace.

[Mickiel]

I'll tell you where men have gone; we have gone to the bottle, were drinking like its going out of business. Were doing drugs and even smoking the drugs. Were fooling around on our wives, were having multiple partners. Were screwing up our jobs and neglecting our children, AND, all the while " Enjoying ourselves!" Were not even taking care of our own bodies, its like were riding a wave of " Something", not really caring where the wave is taking us.

Or how its effecting your mind.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

So many men have gone the way of " Eat, drink and be merry", and are more caught up into that, than the more meaningful things in life. And those three things are powerful forces that can drive a man for years without end.

And I want to break each one of these three down, and show just how their doing it.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Many men are caught up in " The pleasures of this world", one of which is simply " Eating." The consumption of food has become really important to certain men. They literally abuse their own bodies and health to satisfy their greed for simple food. The mind becomes Neanderthal in its drive to consume, like an elephant, they live mostly to eat. The life of an elephant has been described as a " Continual feast", they simply live to eat. When a human becomes like this, there defintely is a problem.

They eat all day and all night, and enjoy doing it. What has happened to the mind when this occurs? Where has the discipline gone?

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Many men are just drinking their lives away, they do literally everything centered around drinking. They begin their day with a drink, they go to work to have money to drink, and often have a drink while their driving home from work. They need a drink before they eat, and need to drink in order to sleep. Then while sleep, they dream about drinking, and yet they continue to function. Everyone who is close to them are on alert, and seemingly helpless to effect change, all the while change is sitting inside of the man, yet he refuses to engage that battle, for various reasons.

But there is a way out for this man, and I will go into that later.

The man is drinking so that he can be " Merry", his own type of happiness, and I want to go into that world.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

There is a lot of Joy that can come from drinking, and I speak from personal experience. Although I no longer drink, I know that I loved doing it, and enjoyed it. It was very hard for me to quit, because of the Joy I got out of it.

Joy in a bottle, happiness in a can, glee in a glass. The unusual prices we pay to be happy.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

I am glad they took the beer " Fours" off the market, one beer that contains the alcohol of four, it was messing college students up.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The Neanderthal thinking man gets caught up in eat, drink and be merry, one reason for this is that there are " Empty Spaces in his heart", and hes trying to fill them, or ignore them. Often does not fill them with things of substance. Fills them with things that are really nothing themselves, adding nothing to nothing, subtracting nothing from nothing, which always leaves him with nothing.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The Neanderthal thinking man is attracted to " The Nothing", bring nothing into a relationship and receive the benefits from it. He thinks that humanity came from nothing and will return to nothing. He thinks that " Nothing" matters anymore. He thinks he is obligated to nothing, has to give nothing, and if he had his way would do nothing in life.

And I want to examine that.

Peace.

[Ahso!]

Mickiel;1347421 wrote: The Neanderthal thinking man is attracted to " The Nothing", bring nothing into a relationship and receive the benefits from it. He thinks that humanity came from nothing and will return to nothing. He thinks that " Nothing" matters anymore. He thinks he is obligated to nothing, has to give nothing, and if he had his way would do nothing in life.

And I want to examine that.

Peace.So, what happened?

[Mickiel]

Ahso!;1347433 wrote: So, what happened?


Well what happens when you bring nothing into something and expect to reap the benefits anyway? This is what Atheist are doing with their view of Life. They have brough nothing to the table, but are reaping the benefits of Life anyway. They say we came from nothing and exclude God from our orgin, and feel the same Sun on their face as Theist do. The Neanderthal thinking man is simular in his approach to male - female relationships. He brings nothing to the table, but he collects all these " Benefits" from his female, as if thats the way it should be.

And I want to go into that pathology.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Many humans are living as if God is not there, but they are receiving the benefits from God everyday they live. And they think its supposed to be that way. So it is with the Neanderthal thinking man in his view toward women, they are here to serve him. He does not believe in their equality, and he expects to be served, and receive all the benefits of her.

And I want to look into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The Neanderthal Thinking man, or " He who must be obeyed", will go to great extremes to benefit from his woman. He'll " Lock her in the house" while he is gone, and " Smell her underwear" when he returns. Make her bathe him, wash his clothes, cook his food, and punish her if she does not perform any of these task to his liking. He will accompany her everywhere she has to go, and she cannot look at another man longer than a few seconds.

He can be very Jealous of her, and he is very dangerous to her.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The Neanderthal Thinking man is a jealous man, very possesive and primordal in his rage. Possessive of his woman and his territory, and I think this is implanted in his nature from the past, and it goes all the way back to the primordal age.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

We are what we eat, but moreso, we are what we think! Primordal man was not a good thinker, not a good planner, not a fast learner, they literally stayed the same for most of their existence. When a mans relationship with a woman can be described just like that, never changing or growing, he is primordal in his approach toward relationships.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[LarsMac]

Of course, from this article it would appear that your friend's husband could be a real Neanderthal.

[Nomad]

Mickiel;1346485 wrote: Homosapien means the surviving species of human evolutionary development, which has produced modern man. So I reject that tgerminology, because I reject evolution in humans. Adam was just like we are and I do not believe in genectic change IF it is being used to define the evolution of nothing into something, which is absurd. Archaeology does not prove or suggest evolution, it proves creation.




There are dozens of examples available to suggest we have evolved and clearly we continue to evolve.

Variations in reproductive success still exist among humans, and some traits related to fertility continue to be shaped by natural selection, women who have more children are more likely to pass on certain traits to their progeny.

Women with very low body fat don't ovulate. Researchers have determined that these characteristics are passed on genetically from mothers to daughters and granddaughters.

Since the Industrial Revolution, modern humans have grown taller and stronger.

"We’re more different from people 5,000 years ago than they were from Neanderthals," University of Utah anthropologist Henry Harpending.

In a study, researchers analzyed genomes from 270 people belonging to four disparate ethnic groups: Han Chinese, Africa’s Yoruba tribe,

Japanese and Utah Mormons. By comparing areas of difference and similarity, they determined that about seven percent of the genome has undergone significant change since the end of the last Ice Age.

If human beings had always evolved at such a rapid clip, said the researchers, genetic differences between people and chimpanzees would be 160 times greater than they are.

Driving the changes are environmental fluctuations and population growth. As the number of people swells, so do the number of mutations generated by random chance. Further selecting for disparate genetic inheritances are the diverse terrains, climates and social structures inhabited since the glaciers retreated.

We can eat simple carbohydrates, which hunter-gatherers never did.

[Mickiel]

Nomad;1348151 wrote: There are dozens of examples available to suggest we have evolved and clearly we continue to evolve.

Variations in reproductive success still exist among humans, and some traits related to fertility continue to be shaped by natural selection, women who have more children are more likely to pass on certain traits to their progeny.

Women with very low body fat don't ovulate. Researchers have determined that these characteristics are passed on genetically from mothers to daughters and granddaughters.

Since the Industrial Revolution, modern humans have grown taller and stronger.

"We’re more different from people 5,000 years ago than they were from Neanderthals," University of Utah anthropologist Henry Harpending.

In a study, researchers analzyed genomes from 270 people belonging to four disparate ethnic groups: Han Chinese, Africa’s Yoruba tribe,

Japanese and Utah Mormons. By comparing areas of difference and similarity, they determined that about seven percent of the genome has undergone significant change since the end of the last Ice Age.

If human beings had always evolved at such a rapid clip, said the researchers, genetic differences between people and chimpanzees would be 160 times greater than they are.

Driving the changes are environmental fluctuations and population growth. As the number of people swells, so do the number of mutations generated by random chance. Further selecting for disparate genetic inheritances are the diverse terrains, climates and social structures inhabited since the glaciers retreated.

We can eat simple carbohydrates, which hunter-gatherers never did.




Well when I start a post on evolution maybe you can repost this there.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The Neanderthal thinking man is a dull brute, having no romance and no class. The military loves this type of man.

Peace.