Day-to-day site management

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 pm

Sharp-eyed members might have noticed this new account appear over the last few days.

I'm apparently "working on making improvements and other positive changes to FG" according to the small print.

Anyway. Good. Stand easy, nobody panic. Carla said "manup and make the announcement" so there, it's done. And Flopstock captured the inherent humour of the situation:Let's start a questions game... category - True or false....

One of these statements is horribly true - Iran definitely has nuclear weapons and the US is going in next week

or...

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:43 pm

Welcome to FG, FG. You look a lot like another member here, you may want to ask him if he minds.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:56 pm

I just wanna know how you could show 57 posts and have only 1 post? These are the important things we need to know.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:00 pm

:yh_wink See that wasn't that hard FG. :-6

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:11 pm

YZGI;1348606 wrote: I just wanna know how you could show 57 posts and have only 1 post? These are the important things we need to know.

The other 56 were all about you behind your back..:sneaky:

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:12 pm

YZGI;1348606 wrote: I just wanna know how you could show 57 posts and have only 1 post? These are the important things we need to know.

Been practicing in private, ain't I.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:21 pm

flopstock;1348610 wrote: The other 56 were all about you behind your back..:sneaky:

FG;1348611 wrote: Been practicing in private, ain't I.

Confusion can be very confusing.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:22 pm

So did you acquire the site?

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:28 pm

Ahso!;1348613 wrote: So did you acquire the site?

Good lord no, there's no change of ownership in the air. The mods needed a gofer.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:35 pm

I wanted to get rumblings going. Not that anyone here would bite. TS wouldn't trade for your old boxes?

Post by **Betty Boop** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:38 pm

FG;1348618 wrote: Good lord no, there's no change of ownership in the air. The mods needed a gofer.

It's time for coffee and cake, off you go....

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:50 pm

Ahso!;1348621 wrote: I wanted to get rumblings going. Not that anyone here would bite. TS wouldn't trade for your old boxes?He has far more consideration than to relinquish his steady hand guiding the site toward the new millennium. And his caddy tells me our Glorious Leader invariably scores several holes-in-one each time he plays golf, too.

I can manage rumblings though. There's talk of opening the infraction and reported posts forum to subscribing members, for example, so that a far wider proportion of the active membership gets to define what's unacceptable behaviour on site.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:13 pm

Has spot given you permission to use the avatar associated with him? Or have you just nicked it ? Or are you in fact spot? Or is it just that you fancied it and that anybody can have any avatar as they do not 'belong' to any individual ?

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:29 pm

Welcome to FG, FG..............I'm a bit bewildered as to your identity and purpose. But I will leave a mat for you.

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CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:31 pm

Short answer Gill it is SPOT he is the new manager of the GARDEN.

Mustang · Post by **Mustang** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:21 pm

Welcome aboard, FG.

If you're gofering, can you go find and replace some of these generic smilies, if you would please?

Peg · Post by **Peg** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:28 pm

TS said he wants you to bring me a cup of coffee NOW FG.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:32 pm

Ah. Smilies. I knew that would come up sooner or later. Do you know, the last board I configured from scratch I deleted every smilie from it? I didn't win, mind, but I made my point.

And why does everyone want coffee? Where are the tea drinkers?

Thank you for the mat AFTR, I'll treasure it.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:54 pm

Champagne for me please then Tea.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:06 pm

CARLA;1348633 wrote: Short answer Gill it is SPOT he is the new manager of the GARDEN.

Thank you Carla. :-6 Actually I thought it must be spot, the other day ! :yh_wink

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:07 pm

Oh, he can plump my pillow and tote upstairs and do those dishes of mine........................

Do you do carry-out?

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:35 am

Just remember FG, The customer is ALWAYS right. Well except for a few of them.

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:36 pm

YZGI;1348696 wrote: Just remember FG, The customer is ALWAYS right. Well except for a few of them.

So was I right in thinking that FG and Spot are twins?

Oh, and FG, I'd like a spot of tea, please.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:07 pm

ZAP;1348740 wrote: So was I right in thinking that FG and Spot are twins?

Oh, and FG, I'd like a spot of tea, please.

I cannot for the life of me see how anyone could have cracked my disguise. Have you got a mole, Zap?

There's sugar cubes in the bowl and milk in the jug. Help yourself to sandwiches, the cucumber's local.

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:52 pm

FG;1348744 wrote: I cannot for the life of me see how anyone could have cracked my disguise. Have you got a mole, Zap?

There's sugar cubes in the bowl and milk in the jug. Help yourself to sandwiches, the cucumber's local.

Yes, I do have a mole but how did you happen to Spot it? It is in a rather unmentionable place. Do you have a mole Spotter? Nice of you to mention it however and nice to provide sugar cubes.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:55 pm

Wondering if it's really necessary to post the spammers on the open board for refractions or banning?

I know that we're happy that spammers are banned or dealt with by our mods...thank goodness... but why post this info on the open board in a thread?

Thought the purpose of this 'site management' was for members who hit the report button to express problems about members who are an issue on a daily basis or posting something inappropriate/against TOS.

Just think that reporting every spammer is annoying. Why are we doing this? Don't mean to offend, but it's as annoying as the spammers...

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:27 pm

:wah:

welcome to the first crappy thing about being a moderator: your new posts page is full of spammy stuff even after it's been dealt with.

I think we're working on a way to take the forum(the reported posts forum) off the todays posts/new posts results but it requires some code sleuthing.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:55 pm

Kathy Ellen;1349558 wrote: Wondering if it's really necessary to post the spammers on the open board for refractions or banning?

I know that we're happy that spammers are banned or dealt with by our mods...thank goodness... but why post this info on the open board in a thread?

Thought the purpose of this 'site management' was for members who hit the report button to express problems about members who are an issue on a daily basis or posting something inappropriate/against TOS.

Just think that reporting every spammer is annoying. Why are we doing this? Don't mean to offend, but it's as annoying as the spammers...

Thank you for bringing it up Kathy Ellen, I've switched off those posts for you so you won't be bothered by them in future. Let me know if you ever want them back again.

The reason Supporting Members are getting Reported Posts from the membership as a whole and Infraction Notices is so they can discuss Reported Posts and Infraction Notices. Previously the membership as a whole and some of the Supporting Members in particular had said that they felt moderation was taking place too much behind closed doors and that it should be more transparent. Obviously any Supporting Member wanting to opt out of viewing the detail can opt out of viewing the detail.

As you'll have seen, the "Report Post" page only has one option, to report a post. It doesn't have anything on it to say "report spam" instead of "report aggressive nasty poster", so the system can't selectively choose only to show you aggressive nasty poster reports and leave the spam reports invisible. The system doesn't know which is which.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:05 pm

koan;1349568 wrote: I think we're working on a way to take the forum(the reported posts forum) off the todays posts/new posts results but it requires some code sleuthing.

The reported posts forum only appears on the todays posts/new posts results for members authorized to see it. That's why people not logged in and non-Supporting members don't see it. Members authorized to see it will see it and that's not going to change, I've not heard anyone ever ask for it to change either.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:35 am

We had some discussion in the moderator forum. There may be a part-way solution, though it won't distinguish spam infractions from any other sort.

Any Supporting Member who wants to exclude the Reported Posts and Warnings And Exclusions can drag this link to their bookmark toolbar (or make it a favorite depending on which browser is being used) and click it as a replacement for "Today's Posts":

Exclude the Reported Posts and Warnings And Exclusions

It means that the list of posts won't show any reported posts or warnings or infractions, though they'd still show up by listing the content of the relevant forum itself or, of course, clicking on Today's Posts instead.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:53 pm

[QUOTE=FG;1349586]Thank you for bringing it up Kathy Ellen, I've switched off those posts for you so you won't be bothered by them in future. Let me know if you ever want them back again.

The reason Supporting Members are getting Reported Posts from the membership as a whole and Infraction Notices is so they can discuss Reported Posts and Infraction Notices. Previously the membership as a whole and some of the Supporting Members in particular had said that they felt moderation was taking place too much behind closed doors and that it should be more transparent. Obviously any Supporting Member wanting to opt out of viewing the detail can opt out of viewing the detail.

As you'll have seen, the "Report Post" page only has one option, to report a post. It doesn't have anything on it to say "report spam" instead of "report aggressive nasty poster", so the system can't selectively choose only to show you aggressive nasty poster reports and leave the spam reports invisible. The system doesn't know which is which.

Spot, did you switch those posts off on me? I didn't ask you to do that. I really don't wish to see all the spammer threads, but I do intend to see every post that our membership sees.

So, if you did turned something off without asking me, please turn them back on again.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:37 pm

Kathy Ellen;1349742 wrote: Spot, did you switch those posts off on me? I didn't ask you to do that. I really don't wish to see all the spammer threads, but I do intend to see every post that our membership sees.

So, if you did turned something off without asking me, please turn them back on again.There we are, back on again.

Perhaps you'd like to try the alternative to "Today's Posts" which koan unearthed, it's described in the post immediately above yours. Click that and the Reported Posts and Warnings and Infractions aren't listed, go back to clicking Today's Posts and they are. That way "I do intend to see every post that our membership sees" is an occasional choice, not an annoying requirement.

We still have no way of suppressing just the spam reports and infractions though, and it's not likely to happen.

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:49 pm

FG;1349751 wrote: There we are, back on again.

Perhaps you'd like to try the alternative to "Today's Posts" which koan unearthed, it's described in the post immediately above yours. Click that and the Reported Posts and Warnings and Infractions aren't listed, go back to clicking Today's Posts and they are. That way "I do intend to see every post that our membership sees" is an occasional choice, not an annoying requirement.

We still have no way of suppressing just the spam reports and infractions though, and it's not likely to happen.

Are you sure you ticked me back on again Spot as I'm not seeing any reported posts...just checking...Thanks...

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:03 pm

Kathy Ellen;1349997 wrote: Are you sure you ticked me back on again Spot as I'm not seeing any reported posts...just checking...Thanks...
Yes,. very - hang on, let me report one, tell me if you still can't see any...