Does Tough Love Fall Under A Label Of Cultural Selection?

[Ahso!]

I think the evolutionists here understand what I mean, for the ones who do not, let me explain.

I'm sure everyone here is familiar with the phrase "survival of the fittest", which basically means those with the most essential tools relevant to environmental conditions survive longer and thus have opportunity to pass on their genes to offspring. A very simplistic example would be if a human being were born without legs in the wild they'd be an early meal and thus would not have the opportunity to reproduce. It's that simple really and known as Natural Selection. Going further into the inner workings of the human body there may be a gene that introduces Progeria into the body thus the same result of no opportunity to reproduce and pass on the "bad gene". Again, the process of Natural Selection. We call these conditions I mention above 'abnormalities' or 'disorders' and therefore in an effort to provide survival to each member of our species who lack it we do our best to repair the problem that's hindering survival. We don't like watching the physically weak not make it. It's the concept of pulling for the underdog, if you will. To the evolutionist it's an adaptation that causes us to assist in one another's survival because we intuitively understand our odds of individual survival increase with the participation of others. (another extension of the Selection process).

Carrying the idea even further and into the human emotional domain , the effort we put forward to 'repair' the physical and biological conditions that arise maintains a strong and confidant state of mind, and that can only increase our chances of survival. We select certain emotions to get by in today's social environment.

And so it goes. The point is that everything is "selected" somehow, whether that selection occurs biologically or what have you.

Think of the workings within your body and how all the member cells work together in order for you to survive each moment. White blood cells show up in order to fight invaders, blood travels to injured parts of the body like a sprained ankle and form a hematoma in order to support it. There may be certain cells though that do not participate as members of the body for survival and in most cases what the other cells will do is isolate them so they do not do compromise the integrity of the body as a whole.

With that in mind, think of each one of us as members and active participants (like cells) for the good of the societal body. Christians use this concept and refer to it as The Body Of Christ. But for the sake of this thread, lets focus on economic integrity of the Nation.

In order to maintain a healthy economic national body each individual member must do their part, right? They have the responsibility to become educated in a field that serves the economic body, they must be willing to work, search for work, and maintain their own personal bodily integrity in order to do that job as best they can. Competition demands it or someone else will step in and take your place. Survival of the fittest? Perhaps.

So heres my point. I maintain "tough love" is Cultural Selection.

1) Do you agree with my conclusion?

2) Is what I describe above what you intend to convey when you espouse "tough love"?

3) Is tough love the moral equivalent to the behavior of the cells isolating unhelpful member cells of one's body?

4) Is permitting members of our society to sink moral when we extend so much effort to those born without the physical ability to survive without member (medical) intervention?

[fuzzywuzzy]

Apart from the words "Tough love" which in this instance you seem to be implying that leaving a legless person out in a forest to be eaten by a bear as "Tough love"? I'm not familiar with this concept.

Nor am I familiar with the connection between body cells and the christian concept of the "body of Christ"

I'm trying to get my head around allowing the poor in your country to DIE OFF for the economic integrity of a nation .....a nation of capitalists who need a lower class for it's economic survival.....I say tough love ..or your interpretation of it here, to be more focussed towards the rich .

But again, I have know idea what you're talking about. Are you saying that natural selection or cultural selction involves killing off our sick? or old because they are a perceptive drain to your economy?

[Ahso!]

Perhaps taking a break from the thread and reading it again in the future might help. I honestly can't see how you've interpreted what I typed as you have.

[fuzzywuzzy]

I beg your pardon ?.............gosh I'm sorry, instead of me reading it again why not retype it for all us dumb people of the world .

[Ahso!]

fuzzywuzzy;1353253 wrote: I beg your pardon ?.............gosh I'm sorry, instead of me reading it again why not retype it for all us dumb people of the world .You don't have to beg, you can have it. Don't take my post as an insult, it wasn't meant as one. I also often need to re-read what others post before it becomes clear, that's the beauty of communicating in written form, it gives us the opportunity to take our time considering the content.

[littleCJelkton]

I find it as a short male the tough love of heightism all the time (relationships, Job applications, even a few times in this forum). From what I have got from documentaries and what I read on the science of attraction is big on symetry and the fibonacci sequence in ratio's between things on the body (eyes to ears, mouth to nose) the 36 24 36 hour glass figure is pretty close to 34 21 34 which is in the fibbonacci sequence

[K.Snyder]

Natural selection is an observation that occurs based upon what we've personally witnessed in the past only to make an educated guess about the future...

Who's to say exactly that humans or life at all is superior the longer we live? Some could say we're the virus of all of the Universe...Where's the connection between "survival of the fittest" and "supremacy"?

I surely wouldn't sacrifice the life of anyone, regardless of physical or mental ability, because the fact remains that no one can predict the future enough to equate "survival of the fittest" with "supremacy" because once pondered the more equally irrelevant ones attempt to predict the future becomes...

Socialism, for instance, is best suited to control the future due to it's obvious intent to repair the past... It's an incredibly wonderful privilege of mine to know that judging anyone or anything is enough to negate any shred of honor I so deeply admire

A fantastic question actually would be to ask why I know such to be true given my obvious stupidity