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Kidder said one of the students raises chickens at home and brought two live chickens to the school on Thursday. The students allegedly snuck out of class and cut the head off one chicken with a knife in a lawn outside of a vocational classroom, Kidder said. A teacher who was inside the classroom saw what happened and stopped the student before he slaughtered the second animal.

In a statement to school officials, the student said he intended on cooking it on a grill near the school. "We have a very large cooker on wheels located behind the building," Kidder said. "It has been used in the past for celebrations. The cooker is gone. It was removed yesterday."

High School Students Accused Of Killing Chicken For Cookout - News Story - WTOV Steubenville



Do schools no longer subscribe to the notion of educating children? Every child not bearing a parental excuse letter should be obliged to cut the head off whatever's served that day in the school dining room. How on earth does a chicken get onto a barbecue unless its life has first been terminated with either a knife or a half-brick? Who, precisely, is being protected by this pretend outrage?

I dislike that reported "snuck", too. The pair of them even had the school's permission to hold the cookout.
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spot;1360190 wrote: Kidder said one of the students raises chickens at home and brought two live chickens to the school on Thursday. The students allegedly snuck out of class and cut the head off one chicken with a knife in a lawn outside of a vocational classroom, Kidder said. A teacher who was inside the classroom saw what happened and stopped the student before he slaughtered the second animal.

In a statement to school officials, the student said he intended on cooking it on a grill near the school. "We have a very large cooker on wheels located behind the building," Kidder said. "It has been used in the past for celebrations. The cooker is gone. It was removed yesterday."

High School Students Accused Of Killing Chicken For Cookout - News Story - WTOV Steubenville



Do schools no longer subscribe to the notion of educating children? Every child not bearing a parental excuse letter should be obliged to cut the head off whatever's served that day in the school dining room. How on earth does a chicken get onto a barbecue unless its life has first been terminated with either a knife or a half-brick? Who, precisely, is being protected by this pretend outrage?

I dislike that reported "snuck", too. The pair of them even had the school's permission to hold the cookout.


Kidder said one of the students raises chickens at home and brought two live chickens to the school on Thursday

Sounds like a fresh free range chicken to me. Better than any chicken they could buy in a store.

Gabriel Arlia, of Follansbee, said, "I used to hold the chicken while my mother cut its head off. That's how we got chicken every Sunday."

Now there is a real West Virginian..
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They are lucky they weren't arrested for having the knife on school grounds.
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Was this class "How to raise chickens" or "How to prepare poultry on the grill"?
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The knife appears to have been either school property or at least on school grounds with permission, since it was undergoing classroom repair as what appears to be, for want of a better phrase, vocational training.

The nature of the class isn't mentioned. The existing permission for the cookout on school grounds, on the other hand, is.
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Meat comes from the meat packing plant, and is therefore a vegetable. :yh_glasse
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Imagine how much trouble he would be in if his family raised lamb's.
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spot;1360190 wrote: Kidder said one of the students raises chickens at home and brought two live chickens to the school on Thursday. The students allegedly snuck out of class and cut the head off one chicken with a knife in a lawn outside of a vocational classroom, Kidder said. A teacher who was inside the classroom saw what happened and stopped the student before he slaughtered the second animal.

In a statement to school officials, the student said he intended on cooking it on a grill near the school. "We have a very large cooker on wheels located behind the building," Kidder said. "It has been used in the past for celebrations. The cooker is gone. It was removed yesterday."

High School Students Accused Of Killing Chicken For Cookout - News Story - WTOV Steubenville



Do schools no longer subscribe to the notion of educating children? Every child not bearing a parental excuse letter should be obliged to cut the head off whatever's served that day in the school dining room. How on earth does a chicken get onto a barbecue unless its life has first been terminated with either a knife or a half-brick? Who, precisely, is being protected by this pretend outrage?

I dislike that reported "snuck", too. The pair of them even had the school's permission to hold the cookout.
Imagine my suprise when I saw this from a member of another country. This is where I went to high school.

YZGI;1360192 wrote: Kidder said one of the students raises chickens at home and brought two live chickens to the school on Thursday

Sounds like a fresh free range chicken to me. Better than any chicken they could buy in a store.

Gabriel Arlia, of Follansbee, said, "I used to hold the chicken while my mother cut its head off. That's how we got chicken every Sunday."

Now there is a real West Virginian..


Watch it now. I grew up in Follansbee, WV. I seriously did.
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Peg;1360293 wrote: Imagine my suprise when I saw this from a member of another country. This is where I went to high school.





Watch it now. I grew up in Follansbee, WV. I seriously did.


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Watch what you say about Kansas! :-6 Oh, well . . . :-3
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I remember I used to be able to bring my .308 Mossberg deer rifle to school. We would have to sign in at the office in the morning and keep the unloaded rifle in our lockers all day. We'd go elk hunting in the hills after school. Nobody ever got shot by accident or on purpose. Such a thing is unthinkable today so this story is not surprising.
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People behave by and large as authority expects them to behave, that's my suggestion. If authority assumes the default condition of its citizens is lawful then by and large they'll be lawful. If everyone on the street is treated as an undetected criminal then we'll be, by and large, undetected criminals. Speaking personally, I want to carry a sheath knife on my belt in public. I always used to and I'm no different, what's changed is the concept of policing and the function of laws and courts.

A general principle's at stake. Either what's prosecuted is a past demonstrable act against society, or what's prosecuted is a breaking of arbitrary rules set by legislators to restrict citizens. Those restrictions might, possibly, inconvenience people bent on performing an act against society, but I doubt that very much. What it definitely does is inconvenience and criminalize a large proportion of the rest of us.

I've come to the conclusion that acting morally is more important than obeying the rules. Killing a chicken with a knife for a cookout on school grounds can easily be moral.
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Peg;1360293 wrote: Imagine my suprise when I saw this from a member of another country. This is where I went to high school.This article from a couple of months back may be of interest to you then Peg - perhaps you'd like to comment on it.Life in this industrial area has slowed to a shuffle along with the steel mills that used to power it. Young people have moved away, leaving an aging population that no longer has the energy to put on street fairs or holiday parades. In fact, this community in West Virginia’s northern panhandle holds an unwelcome distinction. With just 71 babies born on average for every 100 residents who die, Brooke County, in which Weirton is partly located, has the largest such gap in the nation among counties in metropolitan areas, save for a handful of places that are magnets for retirees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/us/07aging.html

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The steel mills were always the main source of income for these small towns on both sides of the Ohio River as far back as I can remember. Some are closed and the ones that remain open are running on a skeleton crew compared to the amount of employees they once had. I go to Follansbee which is in Brooke County a few times a year. For the amount of revenue they have lost over the years, they still seem to be doing quite well. When one business closes, another opens. Unfortunately, none of the businesses are as large of an employer as the steel mills once were. There is nothing there to really draw people to the town. The article stated that the American Legion closed because of lack of young supporters. I see this happening all over the place to ALs and VFWs. They seem to think they are for older veterans. When I graduated high school in 1979, getting a job in the steel mill was THE thing to do. Now get hired by the mills would take nothing less than a miracle. There seems to be an upward trend in coal mining now.
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Peg, do you want the steel mills back at their full production or would you rather the region finds a higher value-added industry? The steel mills are redundant because they can't roll steel for the cost it takes to bring steel in from the Far East, for example. If you had a high import duty on steel then the rest of North America would buy local-rolled steel once again and the plant would be employing local workers, but that's effectively a subsidy. Everyone in the US would be paying more for steel and more for imports to balance the equation.

In my opinion, much of what are currently office jobs in the major cities will become jobs from home over the next couple of decades and Brooke County sounds a perfect environment in which to live. Maybe that will reverse the trend, if career jobs become available online. All those three-bedroom houses will become two-bedroom plus a fully equipped work studio.
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spot;1360546 wrote: Peg, do you want the steel mills back at their full production or would you rather the region finds a higher value-added industry? The steel mills are redundant because they can't roll steel for the cost it takes to bring steel in from the Far East, for example. If you had a high import duty on steel then the rest of North America would buy local-rolled steel once again and the plant would be employing local workers, but that's effectively a subsidy. Everyone in the US would be paying more for steel and more for imports to balance the equation.

In my opinion, much of what are currently office jobs in the major cities will become jobs from home over the next couple of decades and Brooke County sounds a perfect environment in which to live. Maybe that will reverse the trend, if career jobs become available online. All those three-bedroom houses will become two-bedroom plus a fully equipped work studio.


The only reason I'd like to see the mills back at their full production again is because decent paying jobs with benefits are scarce in this area. Mothers can no longer afford to stay home and take care of their children because it takes two or three incomes just to survive. Unfortunately, a lot of the steel mill workers thought they'd always have their jobs and lived beyond their means.

I do like the idea of office jobs being done from home and we do see it more and more. Hopefully one day it will really catch on.
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