News Of The World, RIP

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:19 am

spot;1363850 wrote: Speak for yourself, Oscar. None of that comes close to either my motivation or that of my acquaintances.

The 'we' reference was the royal 'we' and at no point In my post did I Imply it referred to you, myself nor any other member here.

Despite your Inaccurate assumption of the meaning of my former post, one can not deny that had a nation not had a thirst for the tittle tattle reported In gutter press rags, there would be no demand to seek as much personal detail of a persons life as possible In the first place.

Whilst there are many like yourself and myself who would prefer to flush five pound notes down the toilet rather than Increase the bank balance of any-one associated with the Murdoch machine, there are many others who readily snap up the tabloids only to read as much misery about a celebrities life as possible and It Is those people who created a demand In the first place. No demand, no business.... simples.

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:39 am

The Royal we can only apply to a singular person, that's why it's Royal. I was dissociating myself and my acquaintances from your "we all", paragraph 1, sentence 1, words 5 and 6, which is explicitly all-inclusive unless you live in the Deep South (where it stands in contrast to "you all").

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:58 am

spot;1363854 wrote: The Royal we can only apply to a singular person, that's why it's Royal. I was dissociating myself and my acquaintances from your "we all", paragraph 1, sentence 1, words 5 and 6, which is explicitly all-inclusive unless you live in the Deep South (where it stands in contrast to "you all").

Personal pronouns in standard Modern English

Singular Plural

Subject Object Reflexive Subject Object Reflexive

First I me myself we us ourselves

Second you yourself you yourselves

Third Masculine he him himself they them themselves

Feminine she her herself

Neuter it it itself

I shall then put my ' we ' In the category of the Neuter referring to ' we ' as the proportion of a nation who chose to buy such sensationalism.

Footnote

Your terminology of ' you all ' pertaining to residents of The Deep South Is a grammatical error, the correct grammar Is ' Yall '...

Please exercise your right to dissociate yourself and your acquaintances from my "we all", paragraph 1, sentence 1, words 5 and 6, which is explicitly all-inclusive from the proportion of the nation who buys sensationalism as referred to to In my post and my neuter ' we '.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:49 am

spot;1363829 wrote: Yesterday's headlines were rather interesting I thought.

News International instructed IT consultants to prune email archives. That's not to clean up the visible email displays to users, that's to eliminate evidence, regardless of how the deletion request is worded. The archive is meant to be there as a permanent raw source, it's an audit trail.

HCL discloses 'email deletion' requests from News International

And it's News International, not the News of the World. It was at a time when the company had promised to cooperate to the fullest extent in uncovering the criminal activities of Murdoch employees.

If that leaves James Murdoch "a person who can be relied on to exercise proper stewardship of a publicly quoted company" I would be shocked. It's a blatant attempt to make any police investigation and subsequent prosecution more difficult and it was done on his watch, regardless of who got their hands dirty giving the orders.

Given the sensitivity and likely reaction to the instruction becoming public I cannot see any employee issuing it without full clearance from the top. It's not just "on his watch".

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:53 am

oscar;1363838 wrote: I think that whilst we all tut and utter snorts of disgust at the hacking of murder victims phones, we as a nation need to look to ourselves for the beast we have created.

We have a nation who wallow In the misery of others and enjoy nothing more that reading the most Intimate details of people's lives. In short, we have created the demand for this kind of gutter journalism.

Some relish In the misery when high profile people screw up In life and naturally, If there Is a demand, there Is always some-one who will oblige that demand. If some people got out there and made a life for themselves then maybe weather Cheryl Is returning to Ashley, will be of no Interest to them.

Whilst the actions of these journalists and the corruption behind It are deplorable, the nation has systematically demanded more and more sensationalism. Now, It has blown up, the nation tuts and snorts In disgust.

I fear I've been tutting and snorting in disgust for years over the growing cult of celebrity and demand for sensationalism

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:25 pm

oscar;1363838 wrote: I think that whilst we all tut and utter snorts of disgust at the hacking of murder victims phones, we as a nation need to look to ourselves for the beast we have created.

We have a nation who wallow In the misery of others and enjoy nothing more that reading the most Intimate details of people's lives. In short, we have created the demand for this kind of gutter journalism.

Some relish In the misery when high profile people screw up In life and naturally, If there Is a demand, there Is always some-one who will oblige that demand. If some people got out there and made a life for themselves then maybe weather Cheryl Is returning to Ashley, will be of no Interest to them.

Whilst the actions of these journalists and the corruption behind It are deplorable, the nation has systematically demanded more and more sensationalism. Now, It has blown up, the nation tuts and snorts In disgust.

Have no worries oscar, there are alternatives to the daily mail and hello magazine.

The Beano Comic - Weekly laughs, jokes, pranks, and puzzles for kids. Starring Dennis and Gnasher!

Socialist Worker (Britain)  an anticapitalist, revolutionary weekly

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Latest news, comment and reviews from the Guardian | guardian.co.uk

Childish I know but the sound effects as you run the cursor over the headings in the beano always make me smile.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:45 pm

Bryn Mawr;1363861 wrote: I fear I've been tutting and snorting in disgust for years over the growing cult of celebrity and demand for sensationalism

Even Tesco Express Is awash with magazines about celebrity life. It wouldn't be as bad If I knew half of the people they are writing about. When I ask out of some misguided curiosity, I am Informed by the teenage element In my family that they may have appeared In one episode of Big Brother then faded Into oblivian. Yet these magazines go onto report their latest beau and favoured cocktail whilst out 'larging It' around Essex. It leaves me baffled that even teenagers lap up this car crash reporting and waste their money to read about It.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:48 pm

gmc;1363869 wrote: Have no worries oscar, there are alternatives to the daily mail and hello magazine.

The Beano Comic - Weekly laughs, jokes, pranks, and puzzles for kids. Starring Dennis and Gnasher!

Socialist Worker (Britain)  an anticapitalist, revolutionary weekly

The Independent | News | UK and Worldwide News | Newspaper

Latest news, comment and reviews from the Guardian | guardian.co.uk

Childish I know but the sound effects as you run the cursor over the headings in the beano always make me smile.

Excuse me but I do not buy Hello and never would.

I read all my newspapers on line for point of future reference.

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:22 pm

oscar;1363855 wrote: Your terminology of ' you all ' pertaining to residents of The Deep South Is a grammatical error, the correct grammar Is ' Yall '...

I cite H L Mencken as a major authority... The American language: an inquiry ... - Google Books

He may or may not insist on a hyphen (as "you-all"). I would certainly insist on an apostrophe if we were to contract as far as your unprepossessing and extraordinarily ungrammatical "Yall". I prefer (with Mencken) to avoid the elision altogether.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:26 pm

spot;1363888 wrote: I cite H L Mencken as a major authority... The American language: an inquiry ... - Google Books

He may or may not insist on a hyphen (as "you-all"). I would certainly insist on an apostrophe if we were to contract as far as your unprepossessing and extraordinarily ungrammatical "Yall". I prefer (with Mencken) to avoid the elision altogether.

The Remarkable History of "Y'all" | Dialect Blog

I concede In the case of the apostrophe.

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:36 pm

I didn't in the least challenge the authenticity of "y'all", I merely bridled at your baseless accusation (and again, since you by implication repeat it, I refer you to Mencken as the prime source of information on US usage) that "you all", hyphenated or otherwise, is "a grammatical error".

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:42 pm

spot;1363892 wrote: I didn't in the least challenge the authenticity of "y'all", I merely bridled at your baseless accusation (and again, since you by implication repeat it, I refer you to Mencken as the prime source of information on US usage) that "you all", hyphenated or otherwise, is "a grammatical error".

Touche.... still, given another 50 years, I am sure It will morph Into 'Yall'.

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:49 pm

British English morphs at a far higher pace than US English and has since the early 18th century. The two current spellings reflect the continuation of two current Southern US pronunciations, I can see no reason to think either is dying out.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:19 pm

spot;1363900 wrote: British English morphs at a far higher pace than US English and has since the early 18th century. The two current spellings reflect the continuation of two current Southern US pronunciations, I can see no reason to think either is dying out.

Quite.

A sequence of phonemes, often a word fragment, which constitutes the minimum unit of meaning or syntax within a given word. A morph may be one of several variants of a morpheme, depending for its individal form on the context in which it occurs. Thus the morphs -s and -es are variants of the morpheme by which the plural form of an English noun is expressed.

I am In agreement that morphing Is a far rapid rate In Britain.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:06 pm

I should think that Murdoch could quite easily step into the world of espionage now if he hasn't already done so. He's already got trained employees masquerading as journalists.

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:12 pm

The interesting thing about the English language is that it is possible to use grammatical errors and add flavour or character within the context it is used.

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:59 pm

Possibly so, but it's a vile thing to see a perfectly good verb like "morph" transformed into a peculiarly ugly noun. In my day we called those elements syllables. I defy anyone to find a "minimum unit of meaning or syntax" which uses more than a single syllable. Morphing as a form of linguistic transformation, on the other hand, is a useful concept.

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:54 am

spot;1362396 wrote: What really matters is where the filth-merchants end up writing or broadcasting in future. The ex-editors from the filth years, for example:

1994: Piers Morgan

Piers Morgan 'needs to explain hacking comments'

Ms Mills says: "There was absolutely no honest way that Piers Morgan could have obtained that tape that he has so proudly bragged about unless they had gone into my voice messages."

Mr Morgan, the Mirror's editor between 1995 and 2004, has consistently denied sanctioning any phone hacking. In a statement issued through CNN on Wednesday, Mr Morgan said: "Heather Mills has made unsubstantiated claims about a conversation she may or may not have had with a senior executive from a Trinity Mirror newspaper in 2001.

"I have no knowledge of any conversation any executive from other newspapers at Trinity Mirror may or may not have had with Heather Mills. To reiterate, I have never hacked a phone, told anyone to hack a phone, nor to my knowledge published any story obtained from the hacking of a phone."This is Piers Morgan the scoundrel, Piers Morgan the bounder, Piers Morgan the journalist, under discussion? And we're meant to believe his assertion? Piers Morgan's name is synonymous with blackguardly amoral lying, he doesn't deserve credibility. It would be pleasing to think he dare not return to the UK for fear of police questioning though. The US is welcome to him.

All publicity's good publicity, eh Piers?

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:41 am

oscar;1363876 wrote: Excuse me but I do not buy Hello and never would.

I read all my newspapers on line for point of future reference.

Do pay attention. Those are links to on line editions. I very rarely buy a newspaper myself. I thought the beano most apposite as it has pictures to help you understand the storyline and the level of understanding and critical thinking required better suited to the average daily mail reader. The other two are perhaps a bit aspirational for someone used to BNP leaflets but one can but try. :sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:06 am

gmc;1363950 wrote: Do pay attention. Those are links to on line editions. I very rarely buy a newspaper myself. I thought the beano most apposite as it has pictures to help you understand the storyline and the level of understanding and critical thinking required better suited to the average daily mail reader. The other two are perhaps a bit aspirational for someone used to BNP leaflets but one can but try. :sneaky:

Thank you so much for the links because I did enjoy all the funny little pictures.:p

I am assuming that you rarely buying a newspaper has nothing to do with you being from Scotland? Although some-one must have purchased one at one point as I recall you finding a Daily Mail on a bus, however, that was probably left there by a passing tourist who had bought It.

The BNP have their own newspapers now you know as leaflets are just soooo last season.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:34 am

oscar;1363951 wrote: Thank you so much for the links because I did enjoy all the funny little pictures.:p

I am assuming that you rarely buying a newspaper has nothing to do with you being from Scotland? Although some-one must have purchased one at one point as I recall you finding a Daily Mail on a bus, however, that was probably left there by a passing tourist who had bought It.

The BNP have their own newspapers now you know as leaflets are just soooo last season.

I'm so glad there is a quality rival to the morning star at long last. I thought maybe this for your christmas present

Morning Star Royal Wedding Mug | The Morning Star

Maybe the beano link was a bad idea. You will, from now on, never be able to hear that sound without thinking of me.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:24 am

gmc;1363954 wrote: I'm so glad there is a quality rival to the morning star at long last. I thought maybe this for your christmas present

Morning Star Royal Wedding Mug | The Morning Star

Maybe the beano link was a bad idea. You will, from now on, never be able to hear that sound without thinking of me.

I already think of you but In a psychotic stalking type way.

We have laws In my house and number 47 Is 'No cheap tacky Royal memorabilia shall enter these premises whilst I can still breathe'. It may appeal to people who have morphed 'You All' Into 'Y'all' but never In my house.

Law number 48 Is 'No Pink Floydd will be played whilst I am In residence'.

Post by **spot** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:51 pm

A 61-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of phone hacking, Scotland Yard has said. The BBC understands he is former News of the World news editor, Greg Miskiw. He was arrested by officers from the Met Police's hacking investigation, Operation Weeting, after visiting a police station by appointment. Scotland Yard has also confirmed that the Met's Head of Public Affairs, Dick Fedorcio, has been placed on a period of extended leave.

Former news editor Mr Miskiw is the 12th person arrested and is being held on suspicion of unlawful interception of communications and conspiring to intercept communications.

BBC News - New arrest in phone-hacking inquiry

Come home Piers, your country needs you.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:37 am

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Post by **spot** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:16 am

Eww... bad taste bad taste bad taste bad taste...Mr Blair, who is said to have been "robed in white" during the ceremony, is reported to be the godfather to Grace, the second youngest of Mr Murdoch's six children. The nine-year-old was baptised with her younger sister Chloe, on the banks of the river Jordan, at the spot Jesus is said to have undergone the same ceremony, according to Vogue.

BBC News - Tony Blair "godfather to Rupert Murdoch's daughter"

If you can't actually walk on the water there, don't dress up pretending you can.

Post by **spot** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:58 am

And... Fortress Wapping is to be sold for scrap. How are the mighty fallen.

BBC News - News International is to sell its Wapping site, publisher says

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:27 am

spot;1368109 wrote: And... Fortress Wapping is to be sold for scrap. How are the mighty fallen.

BBC News - News International is to sell its Wapping site, publisher says

And a right eyesore it is too. It will be interesting to see how they'll manage their production and distribution from the Thomas Moore Square offices without the infrastructure provided in the fifteen acres to be sold off.

Post by **spot** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:30 am

spot;1363941 wrote: This is Piers Morgan the scoundrel, Piers Morgan the bounder, Piers Morgan the journalist, under discussion? And we're meant to believe his assertion? Piers Morgan's name is synonymous with blackguardly amoral lying, he doesn't deserve credibility. It would be pleasing to think he dare not return to the UK for fear of police questioning though. The US is welcome to him.

All publicity's good publicity, eh Piers?

On Monday evening, CNN television host Piers Morgan labelled Mr Akin a "gutless little twerp" for pulling out of an appearance on his show.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19335083

He's a gutless little twerp is he, Piers?

Fly into London and say it here Piers, you a gutless little twerp. Hiding away in the US for the rest of your life scarcely shows the personal integrity you'd need to throw words like a "gutless little twerp" around.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:59 am

You're far too polite when it comes to Piers Morgan. Detestable liar with no talent for television, or newspapers come to that. That's me being very polite too

Post by **spot** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:21 am

I note that Plastic Cameron's especial News International buddy Rebekah Brooks was dragged tight-lipped through the courts again today. We still await the main event.

When's Cameron's insider wide-boy News International "Communications Director" meant to be up for his phone-hacking trial, Andy Coulson (NOTW editor 2003-2007)? And if he's going to be done as well for what would, if true, be the scabbiest most injurious perjury of the century, will his trial dates have to be scheduled so as not to clash?

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:34 am

I will will be watching with interest. And salivating.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:49 am

Charlie Brooks to keep trainer's licence despite criminal charge | Sport | guardian.co.uk

I'm at least relived Charlie Brooks will continue as a race horse trainer. I never saw what that had to do with TNOTW

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:23 pm

The irony of Brooks and Coulson being tabloid-outed by a QC in the Crown Court for illicit romping bodes well for the rest of the trial. Hoist with their own grubby petard. What those two did for money puts them beyond the slightest hint of sympathy.

The trial's started, by the way.

Former News of the World editors Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson were having an affair for at least six years from the late 1990s, the phone-hacking trial has heard.

BBC News - Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson had affair, phone-hacking trial hears

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:30 pm

Wish y'all would take Piers Morgan back.

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:33 pm

LarsMac;1439194 wrote: Wish y'all would take Piers Morgan back.

It would be wonderful if you-all would send the bastard back, I want to see whether he'd be arrested on sight at Heathrow. I've an outstanding bet on the outcome.

Arena · Post by **Arena** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:29 am

R I P

Does that stand for; Rupert In Prison

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:24 pm

All we have on the subject is that the red headed woman was having an affair with the dark headed bloke for the time period of his last marriage into his second marriage...........boy is he screwed!!!! makes me laugh .

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:27 pm

Arena;1439232 wrote: R I P

Does that stand for; Rupert In Prison

It should. He just did a stand up tour ................... sorry conference .........here bagging our last government and making out that the puppet we now have in power is a godsend. .......Lets face it. If you are backed by this man you're ****.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:30 pm

Yes, the parents of Millie Dowler must be laughing their socks off... not.

News of the World phone hacking: Rebekah Brooks linked to Milly Dowler private eye | Mail Online

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:48 am

Týr;1439196 wrote: It would be wonderful if you-all would send the bastard back, I want to see whether he'd be arrested on sight at Heathrow. I've an outstanding bet on the outcome.

BBC News - Piers Morgan questioned over phone hacking

Ho ho ho.

Post by **spot** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:51 am

And here's the emergence of the butterfly from purdah:

Rebekah Brooks to return as News Corp UK chief - report - BBC News

Top dog in Britain, eh? It's a payoff of sorts - "never you mind Rebekah, they'll do horrid things to you but I'll see you right in the end". That sort of thing. You can have the UK, how's that.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:31 pm

Mmmmm

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:35 am

Apologies, but I'm just trying to cause certain threads to 'drop out of the bottom of the list' !

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:44 am

Bump !