Sex Clubs... Yes or No ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:48 am

This is Bristol | Sex clubs reapply for licences

As residents try to stop lap dancing clubs, what are your feelings on this?

I happen to have no objection to them.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:00 pm

oscar;1366994 wrote: This is Bristol | Sex clubs reapply for licences

As residents try to stop lap dancing clubs, what are your feelings on this?

I happen to have no objection to them.

No.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:05 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367000 wrote: No. Any reason ?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:09 pm

oscar;1367002 wrote: Any reason ?

Oh, I always have a reason for my opinions

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:10 pm

No, not in my neighborhood. I think they pull in an unsavory crowd.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:35 pm

Ditto "Not in my neighborhood" most here are in small strip malls out of neighborhoods. I guess that is OK as they won't go away regardless of what people say.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:50 pm

Depends what they're made of.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:17 pm

First of all, as the title of my link suggests, they are licensed, or they need licensing, there-fore they are regulated.

The sites of the 4 clubs Is In the city centre and In the main, In area's where there are shops not domestic homes.

If a license was being sought In a residential street I would have reservations but In a street of commercial properties, I can not see the harm.

There are already massage palours etc In the area and lap dancing clubs do not go hand In hand with prostitution.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:29 pm

I say,let em have at it. If it isn't in a club and somewhat regulated it will be in the back alley.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:33 pm

YZGI;1367013 wrote: I say,let em have at it. If it isn't in a club and somewhat regulated it will be in the back alley. My sentiments exactly !!

The proposed sites are not very far from a road Infamous for prostitution.

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Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:50 pm

oscar;1367010 wrote: First of all, as the title of my link suggests, they are licensed, or they need licensing, there-fore they are regulated.

The sites of the 4 clubs Is In the city centre and In the main, In area's where there are shops not domestic homes.

If a license was being sought In a residential street I would have reservations but In a street of commercial properties, I can not see the harm.

There are already massage palours etc In the area and lap dancing clubs do not go hand In hand with prostitution.

The "Gentleman's Club" directly opposite our office was closed down recently, not for having prostitution on the premises but for inviting punters in need of a prostitute to take a ride in their stretch limo. The blacked out windows and well damped suspension were a Godsend for the occupantsdown. They reopened within two weeks of being closed - just as soon as the bung cleared into the councillors' accounts.

The other "Gentleman's Club" fifty yards round the corner has the "ladies" sitting out front under a large screen TV sowing selected views of the interior.

The "Gentleman's Venue" on the main road is the seediest dive you would ever want to not meet and the less said about the strip joint on the main road the other side of the office the better.

All this in a mixed residential / office area of no more than a quarter mile radius.

I'll give it a miss thanks.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:03 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367016 wrote: The "Gentleman's Club" directly opposite our office was closed down recently, not for having prostitution on the premises but for inviting punters in need of a prostitute to take a ride in their stretch limo. The blacked out windows and well damped suspension were a Godsend for the occupantsdown. They reopened within two weeks of being closed - just as soon as the bung cleared into the councillors' accounts.

The other "Gentleman's Club" fifty yards round the corner has the "ladies" sitting out front under a large screen TV sowing selected views of the interior.

The "Gentleman's Venue" on the main road is the seediest dive you would ever want to not meet and the less said about the strip joint on the main road the other side of the office the better.

All this in a mixed residential / office area of no more than a quarter mile radius.

I'll give it a miss thanks.

Holy cow! You're definitely in the thick of it. The clubs around here are generally spread out and on the edges of town. Sounds like you work in the red light district in Bangkok.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:08 pm

YZGI;1367019 wrote: Holy cow! You're definitely in the thick of it. The clubs around here are generally spread out and on the edges of town. Sounds like you work in the red light district in Bangkok.

No, the red light district is up round Kings Cross, this is a quiet residential borough on the edge of the City.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:15 pm

isn't it lovely ...somehow when you put 'licensed' and 'regulated' in front of a horrible industry it makes it sound oh so much better to abuse and reduce women, young men and children to sex objects.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:18 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367022 wrote: isn't it lovely ...somehow when you put 'licensed' and 'regulated' in front of a horrible industry it makes it sound oh so much better to abuse and reduce women, young men and children to sex objects. Regulation as opposed to Pimps getting young girls In their clutches, addicted to drugs and carrying out vile acts to feed their ensuing habits? Rape, Beatings and sexually transmitted diseases In unregulated back of the alley affairs?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:27 pm

oscar;1367023 wrote: Regulation as opposed to Pimps getting young girls In their clutches, addicted to drugs and carrying out vile acts to feed their ensuing habits? Rape, Beatings and sexually transmitted diseases In unregulated back of the alley affairs?

Do you think that that no longer happens because we have sex clubs?

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:42 pm

oscar;1367023 wrote: Regulation as opposed to Pimps getting young girls In their clutches, addicted to drugs and carrying out vile acts to feed their ensuing habits? Rape, Beatings and sexually transmitted diseases In unregulated back of the alley affairs?

Your sex clubs are just shop fronts to all of these things you've just mentioned. did yoiu know you can get a service in England where you can hire (well the 'object' doesn't actually come out alive) a child or older person, usually a child, where you get to mutilate their genitals.....it's a fetish thing. Guess where the contacts are for this very deed/entertainment?

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:44 pm

Hang on are you saying ...that if something is regulated you don't have pimps anymore??? well what are they called then? Councillors?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:04 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367025 wrote: Do you think that that no longer happens because we have sex clubs? Of course not Bryn but who is to say what has been avoided by legalised sex clubs?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:10 pm

oscar;1367040 wrote: Of course not Bryn but who is to say what has been avoided by legalised sex clubs?

You are the one who presented them as alternatives.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:31 pm

Well.........I would be far happier my beautiful daughter working a licenced club than walking the streets.....wouldn't you ?

Think about it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:34 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367043 wrote: You are the one who presented them as alternatives. I just feel that licensed regulated outfits may contribute to less unpleasantness on the streets.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:36 pm

Bruv;1367052 wrote: Well.........I would be far happier my beautiful daughter working a licenced club than walking the streets.....wouldn't you ?

Think about it.

Yes, but I'd prefer she did neither.

Does a culture that says "sex clubs are acceptable, we licence them" encourage the follow on that street walkers are OK, they're just the girls from the sex clubs moonlighting.

Think about it.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:39 pm

oscar;1367055 wrote: I just feel that licensed regulated outfits may contribute to less unpleasantness on the streets.

That is not what you said in :-

oscar;1367023 wrote: Regulation as opposed to Pimps getting young girls In their clutches, addicted to drugs and carrying out vile acts to feed their ensuing habits? Rape, Beatings and sexually transmitted diseases In unregulated back of the alley affairs?

which is a straight, "if you have sex clubs you won't have ...".

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:44 pm

I thought I was being ironic Bryn.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:49 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367061 wrote: That is not what you said in :-

which is a straight, "if you have sex clubs you won't have ...". I need to correct myself In that case. Regulated clubs may eliminate SOME pimps getting hold of young girls and putting them on the streets. I am In favour of anything that helps stop the situations some young girls find themselves In.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:50 pm

oscar;1367068 wrote: I need to correct myself In that case. Regulated clubs may eliminate SOME pimps getting hold of young girls and putting them on the streets. I am In favour of anything that helps stop the situations some young girls find themselves In.

I don't believe that it does - see post #23

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:55 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367070 wrote: I don't believe that it does - see post #23 I did Bryn and see your point. At least Inside the clubs, the girls are regulated by age etc. If a customer goes to a regulated club, It may stop him kerb crawling thus reducing the need for girls to advertise themselves on the street corner putting themselves In potential danger.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:59 pm

oscar;1367072 wrote: I did Bryn and see your point. At least Inside the clubs, the girls are regulated by age etc. If a customer goes to a regulated club, It may stop him kerb crawling thus reducing the need for girls to advertise themselves on the street corner putting themselves In potential danger.

If the regulated club sticks to the regulations and does not provide "extras" then it is more likely to encourage him to kerb crawl thereby increasing the number of street walkers in potential danger.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:05 pm

Can anyone tell me what a 'Sex Club' offers it's customers ?

A fish and chip shop sells fish and chips.

So a 'Sex Shop' sells sex ?

It's a brothel, why call it anything else ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:07 pm

Bruv;1367079 wrote:

A fish and chip shop sells fish and chips.

Yes but you can get a side order of a pickled egg and a battered sausage,

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:35 am

I reckon they rely on addiction no less than the street purveyors of opiates. I'd not legally prevent any adult from dancing on a client's lap but I'd not license an establishment for consumption on the premises.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:02 am

spot;1367123 wrote: I reckon they rely on addiction no less than the street purveyors of opiates. I'd not legally prevent any adult from dancing on a client's lap but I'd not license an establishment for consumption on the premises.
Apparently the Idea Is that the young ladies perform a dance and then If they want 'extra's, the can go to a private room.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:29 am

Yep !! that's how I pick up men in Bars, but how was I to know table top dancing didn't mean stillettoes on the pool table!!! Geesh!!!

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:25 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367157 wrote: Yep !! that's how I pick up men in Bars, but how was I to know table top dancing didn't mean stillettoes on the pool table!!! Geesh!!!

Thank you, that cheered me up no end :yh_rotfl

Not a good weekend so I needed cheering up.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:11 pm

I worked up in the City, briefly. One of the older staff decided he liked me and so took me to a nude dancing joint. He really thought he was doing me a favour. It was horrible. It was sleazy. It was full of people who would have been vastly improved by the application of napalm.

If I believed that "proper" sex clubs protected girls I'd be in favour. But the people who run this sort of place are not nice people at all and will simply take advantage. The girls will be as much slaves as they are now, and more easily exploited. The clients, too, are people to avoid.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:28 pm

Clodhopper;1367548 wrote: I worked up in the City, briefly. One of the older staff decided he liked me and so took me to a nude dancing joint. He really thought he was doing me a favour. It was horrible. It was sleazy. It was full of people who would have been vastly improved by the application of napalm.

If I believed that "proper" sex clubs protected girls I'd be in favour. But the people who run this sort of place are not nice people at all and will simply take advantage. The girls will be as much slaves as they are now, and more easily exploited. The clients, too, are people to avoid. So you are basing your entire opinion on one brief visit to a third rate strip joint?

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:09 am

That's the only time I've ever been inside one of these places. I wouldn't know how to rate it. But it was full of businessmen in smart suits looking rich. Does that make it 3rd rate?

It's not what I based my opinion on, but it certainly helped confirm it.

I have no objection to women making money out of men's sex drives, but I object to slavery, which is what it seems a good deal of this is. Perhaps I would be less worried if these places were owned and run by women. But I've never heard of any that are. (In this country).

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:46 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367517 wrote: Thank you, that cheered me up no end :yh_rotfl

Not a good weekend so I needed cheering up.

It was a business doing pleasure with you ......that'll be fifty bucks please

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:07 pm

fuzzywuzzy;1367628 wrote: It was a business doing pleasure with you ......that'll be fifty bucks please

Paid in full - slipped in the centrefold :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:12 pm

Bryn Mawr;1367632 wrote: Paid in full - slipped in the centrefold :wah: Did you have extra's ? :sneaky:

:wah:

Post by **spot** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:23 pm

This thread was inevitably going to become sordid, I thought so from the start.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:00 am

Bryn Mawr;1367632 wrote: Paid in full - slipped in the centrefold :wah:

Thats usually the good part..

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:09 am

Bryn Mawr;1367632 wrote: Paid in full - slipped in the centrefold :wah:

ewwwhhhewwwhhh ewwwhhhh...no no no no no ...overstepped !!! ewwwhhhh!!!! lol lol lol

Hang on that means the same here as it does there doesn't it? .......