Florida Pissing Away The Peoples Taxes

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:19 pm

I know many U.S. citizens have been convinced by the propaganda of the right that welfare recipients are lazy, fat, ugly, drug and/or alcohol dependent losers, and they'd be wrong, at least about the drugs.

Florida's neophyte Republican governor, tea-party-friendly Rick Scott, signed a bill back in June requiring the state's welfare recipients to undergo drug-testing urinalysis before collecting their monthly assistance check of around $241-to-$303. The measure, he said, would save taxpayer money by barring drug addicts from getting the dole. "Studies show that people that are on welfare are higher users of drugs than people not on welfare," he said.]

Rick Scott Takes the **** Out of Florida Taxpayers | Mother Jones

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:11 pm

Isn't he supposed to be the democrats best hope for taking back florida politics?

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:29 pm

That should have been last election.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:33 pm

I'm not sure I see the problem. If they don't do random drug tests on government workers (trust me, if someone's abusing drugs, their work performance suffers and it's quite obvious) then they save money and can spend it on drug tests for welfare recipients. I feel pretty strongly that our taxes shouldn't be supplementing their drug use. They want money, they stay clean. I also think they should show proof that they're either pursuing an education or are actively looking for employment.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:53 pm

SnoozeAgain;1367191 wrote: I'm not sure I see the problem. If they don't do random drug tests on government workers (trust me, if someone's abusing drugs, their work performance suffers and it's quite obvious) then they save money and can spend it on drug tests for welfare recipients. I feel pretty strongly that our taxes shouldn't be supplementing their drug use. They want money, they stay clean. I also think they should show proof that they're either pursuing an education or are actively looking for employment.
I see the point you are making but I wonder If cutting off their unemployment cheque would force them to rob maybe with violence to feed their habit.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:54 pm

Oh my, where should we begin?

Let's start with the easy part first: "Studies show that people that are on welfare are higher users of drugs than people not on welfare," he said.

As far as I can tell Scott never actually cited these "studies" and furthermore, it appears nobody within his circles even bothered to require any citations. What studies? They were obviously all wrong.

PolitiFact Florida | Rick Scott says welfare recipients are more likely to use illicit drugs

Scrat · Post by **Scrat** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:12 pm

Just read the first paragraph of this article people. Need we see more?

Rick Scott's Medicaid Overhaul to Benefit

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:54 pm

oscar;1367192 wrote: I see the point you are making but I wonder If cutting off their unemployment cheque would force them to rob maybe with violence to feed their habit.

How scary is that? I don't want to annoy the mugger, he might shoot me so I'm going to give him all my money rather that karate chop his freakin' neck off.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:18 am

Never mind all is for the best in that best of all possible countries.

Meanwhile there are even better things to do with the taxpayers money than spend it on supporting the lazy bums that have lost their jobs sometimes through no fault of their own.

The Fed gave banks $1.2 trillion | EUTimes.net

“These are all whopping numbers,” Robert Litan, a former Justice Department official, tells Bloomberg. “You’re talking about the aristocracy of American finance going down the tubes without the federal money.” Bloomberg notes that $1.2 trillion is also around how much money US homeowners owe on over 6 million delinquent and foreclosed mortgages.

Will all unemployed bankers please have their urine samples ready.

Why don't the florida electorate tell him to F--k off. I just cannot see any British politician trying anything like it..

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:32 am

GMC, The Federal Reserve, also know as The Fed, does not use taxpayer funds. The Fed is actually owned by the banks and, like the European Central Bank, it's function is to, more or less, control interest rates through regulating how much money is in circulation usually by injecting money into the economy via the banking system or The Fed can act as a bank itself and do things like purchase bonds (Quantitative Easing). The Fed doesn't print the money, that's one of the functions of the treasury.

I believe the UK has it's own Central Bank.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:58 am

Ahso!;1367214 wrote: GMC, The Federal Reserve, also know as The Fed, does not use taxpayer funds. The Fed is actually owned by the banks and, like the European Central Bank, it's function is to, more or less, control interest rates through regulating how much money is in circulation usually by injecting money into the economy via the banking system or The Fed can act as a bank itself and do things like purchase bonds (Quantitative Easing). The Fed doesn't print the money, that's one of the functions of the treasury.

I believe the UK has it's own Central Bank.

You're right, my apologies i stand corrected. Yes we do have our own central bank, founded by a scotsman as it happens. In the UK the government actually took over some banks. Sadly they never jailed anyone although they should have. There are better things they could have done better things with the money imo. Some interesting points of view on this, same stories different angles.

Episode 176 — RT

Maybe if they knew they wopuild be allowed to fail they might have been more careful. In the UK the strongest mortgage institutions are the lenders that stayed mutual and kept sensible lending policies.