It seems you can't support just any organisation only the right ones.
Wikileaks suspends publications - Home News, UK - The Independent
WikiLeaks suspends activity over cash blockade — RT
It also seems the US govt believes it has the right to silence critics no matter where they happen to be based. Be interesting to see how the court case goes.
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yep they've stopped all internet donations. paypal etc won't work .
now you know who owns the internet. what made you think the internet was the land of the free? It's global ..there is no such freedom .
now you know who owns the internet. what made you think the internet was the land of the free? It's global ..there is no such freedom .
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fuzzywuzzy;1373390 wrote: yep they've stopped all internet donations. paypal etc won't work .
now you know who owns the internet. what made you think the internet was the land of the free? It's global ..there is no such freedom .
It's worse than that because they'll retrospectively track back those who have made such donations in the past and mark them for investigation.
In its disregard for international law it goes beyond self defense and even beyond the vindictive - 1984 anyone?
now you know who owns the internet. what made you think the internet was the land of the free? It's global ..there is no such freedom .
It's worse than that because they'll retrospectively track back those who have made such donations in the past and mark them for investigation.
In its disregard for international law it goes beyond self defense and even beyond the vindictive - 1984 anyone?
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And yet child porn can't be controlled on the internet ...all these agencies ............maybe they should turn to wikileaks they are supported by donations....... oh dear me thinks .
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sorry don't mean to be cynical
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fuzzywuzzy;1373400 wrote: sorry don't mean to be cynical
Yes you did.
It is not the internet it is the establishment in the form of Banks, all protecting themselves.
All the armchair warriors want to make a card payment behind closed curtains, why not send a cheque ?
Yes you did.
It is not the internet it is the establishment in the form of Banks, all protecting themselves.
All the armchair warriors want to make a card payment behind closed curtains, why not send a cheque ?
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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What were they spending all that money on?
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
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I"m sorry ... they can't stop child porn but they can stop wikileaks?.......it just doesn't make sense
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fuzzywuzzy;1373404 wrote: I"m sorry ... they can't stop child porn but they can stop wikileaks?.......it just doesn't make sense
They haven't stopped wikileaks, they have stopped it's payment streams.
Starving it to death.
They haven't stopped wikileaks, they have stopped it's payment streams.
Starving it to death.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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It's a publicity campagin.
"*Hacker-proof encryption announced"
"*Hacker-proof encryption announced"
I expressly forbid the use of any of my posts anywhere outside of FG (with the exception of the incredibly witty 'get a room already' )posted recently.
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
Folks who'd like to copy my intellectual work should expect to pay me for it.:-6
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Bruv;1373402 wrote: Yes you did.
It is not the internet it is the establishment in the form of Banks, all protecting themselves.
All the armchair warriors want to make a card payment behind closed curtains, why not send a cheque ?
What are the banks protecting themselves from if no-one is making threats? It is not the internet, it is the organization applying the pressure that should be in the spotlight.
Cheques are almost as traceable - again it is down to pressure on the bank holding the receiving account. The only safe way would be to hand over cash is a dark alley.
It is not the internet it is the establishment in the form of Banks, all protecting themselves.
All the armchair warriors want to make a card payment behind closed curtains, why not send a cheque ?
What are the banks protecting themselves from if no-one is making threats? It is not the internet, it is the organization applying the pressure that should be in the spotlight.
Cheques are almost as traceable - again it is down to pressure on the bank holding the receiving account. The only safe way would be to hand over cash is a dark alley.
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Bryn Mawr;1373412 wrote: What are the banks protecting themselves from if no-one is making threats? It is not the internet, it is the organization applying the pressure that should be in the spotlight.
Cheques are almost as traceable - again it is down to pressure on the bank holding the receiving account. The only safe way would be to hand over cash is a dark alley.
Thought I said it wasn't the internet.
Any payment made through the internet must go to a bank before getting to the payee, so it is not all banks, they have a bank to make payments into presumably.
I don't think anyone is after tracing who makes payments, are they ?
Thought they were just making it difficult/impossible to make card payments online, so it is the third party payment gateways such as paypal etc that are stopping the payments being processed.
So what pressure and by whom is being brought to bear ?
Cheques are almost as traceable - again it is down to pressure on the bank holding the receiving account. The only safe way would be to hand over cash is a dark alley.
Thought I said it wasn't the internet.
Any payment made through the internet must go to a bank before getting to the payee, so it is not all banks, they have a bank to make payments into presumably.
I don't think anyone is after tracing who makes payments, are they ?
Thought they were just making it difficult/impossible to make card payments online, so it is the third party payment gateways such as paypal etc that are stopping the payments being processed.
So what pressure and by whom is being brought to bear ?
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Occupy Oakland video: Riot police fire tear gas, flashbang grenades - YouTube
Getting interesting now. After the riots in the UK it was reported that the US had contingency plans to use troops which I find hard to believe I can't see US police or troops opening fire on demonstrators in this day and age.
Occupy Europe: Thousands march in Germany & Spain - YouTube
Getting interesting now. After the riots in the UK it was reported that the US had contingency plans to use troops which I find hard to believe I can't see US police or troops opening fire on demonstrators in this day and age.
Occupy Europe: Thousands march in Germany & Spain - YouTube