An article in Forbes magazine advised men not to marry career women. A response article countered that women shouldn't marry lazy men.
I'm interested in this debate. I was thinking about one of my childhood friends this morning who was going to university for journalism, got married and is now running a store that loses money but her husband finances it because he thinks it's cute. I'm predicting that she was a previously ambitious young woman who will end up a housewife on prozac.
The two articles are discussed at Careers And Marriage - Forbes.com
Career Women or Lazy Men?
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Career Women or Lazy Men?
I didn't read the articles yet, but it sounds like a perfect match. Men who don't marry career women are probably the kind that like supporting the family in the old traditional nuclear way.
Of course, no woman should marry a lazy man, unless she's Madonna-rich and he's really good in bed.
Of course, no woman should marry a lazy man, unless she's Madonna-rich and he's really good in bed.
Career Women or Lazy Men?
I don't imagine a lazy man would be very good in bed at all.
Career Women or Lazy Men?
What is the standard here? What is lazy when it comes to men? Often times in my relationship I have not made as much as my wife, especially these last few years. This has never been an issue between us.
Career Women or Lazy Men?
Here are the bits from each side that I agree with:
Don't Marry Career Women
Not a happy conclusion, especially given that many men, particularly successful men, are attracted to women with similar goals and aspirations. And why not? After all, your typical career girl is well educated, ambitious, informed and engaged. All seemingly good things, right? Sure … at least until you get married. Then, to put it bluntly, the more successful she is, the more likely she is to grow dissatisfied with you.
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For our purposes, a "career girl" has a university-level (or higher) education, works more than 35 hours a week outside the home and makes more than $30,000 a year.
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If they quit their jobs and stay home with the kids, they will be unhappy ( Journal of Marriage and Family, 2003). They will be unhappy if they make more money than you do ( Social Forces, 2006). You will be unhappy if they make more money than you do ( Journal of Marriage and Family, 2001). You will be more likely to fall ill ( American Journal of Sociology). Even your house will be dirtier ( Institute for Social Research).
-if, for example, both spouses have careers--the overall value of the marriage is lower for both partners because less of the total needed work is getting done, making life harder for both partners and divorce more likely. And, indeed, empirical studies have concluded just that.
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There's more: According to a wide-ranging review of the published literature, highly educated people are more likely to have had extramarital sex (those with graduate degrees are 1.75 times more likely to have cheated than those with high school diplomas). Additionally, individuals who earn more than $30,000 a year are more likely to cheat.
He ignores that the women who just want to get married and be taken care of are only appealing to men who take pride in being "the provider" and think their wife having to work is a disgrace.
His statistics have other possible reasons: The cheating factor is just double when both people are working. When only one(for his purposes, the man) is working it means that the woman is the only one having to worry more.
Don't Marry A Lazy Man
If the last new skill your guy learned was how to tie his shoes in the second grade, dump him. If he can pick up new ideas faster than your puppy, you've got a winner.
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The experts cited in his story think that professional women are more likely to get divorced, to cheat and to be grumpy about either having kids or not having them. But rather than rush to blame the woman, let's not overlook the other key variable: What is the guy doing?
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The essence of a good marriage, it seems to me, is that both people have to learn to change and keep on adapting.
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So, guys, if you're game for an exciting life, go ahead and marry a professional gal.
She's really spending her time trying to shift blame and using her one, specific, personal circumstance to refute studies that were performed on much larger groups.
Don't Marry Career Women
Not a happy conclusion, especially given that many men, particularly successful men, are attracted to women with similar goals and aspirations. And why not? After all, your typical career girl is well educated, ambitious, informed and engaged. All seemingly good things, right? Sure … at least until you get married. Then, to put it bluntly, the more successful she is, the more likely she is to grow dissatisfied with you.
...
For our purposes, a "career girl" has a university-level (or higher) education, works more than 35 hours a week outside the home and makes more than $30,000 a year.
...
If they quit their jobs and stay home with the kids, they will be unhappy ( Journal of Marriage and Family, 2003). They will be unhappy if they make more money than you do ( Social Forces, 2006). You will be unhappy if they make more money than you do ( Journal of Marriage and Family, 2001). You will be more likely to fall ill ( American Journal of Sociology). Even your house will be dirtier ( Institute for Social Research).
-if, for example, both spouses have careers--the overall value of the marriage is lower for both partners because less of the total needed work is getting done, making life harder for both partners and divorce more likely. And, indeed, empirical studies have concluded just that.
...
There's more: According to a wide-ranging review of the published literature, highly educated people are more likely to have had extramarital sex (those with graduate degrees are 1.75 times more likely to have cheated than those with high school diplomas). Additionally, individuals who earn more than $30,000 a year are more likely to cheat.
He ignores that the women who just want to get married and be taken care of are only appealing to men who take pride in being "the provider" and think their wife having to work is a disgrace.
His statistics have other possible reasons: The cheating factor is just double when both people are working. When only one(for his purposes, the man) is working it means that the woman is the only one having to worry more.
Don't Marry A Lazy Man
If the last new skill your guy learned was how to tie his shoes in the second grade, dump him. If he can pick up new ideas faster than your puppy, you've got a winner.
...
The experts cited in his story think that professional women are more likely to get divorced, to cheat and to be grumpy about either having kids or not having them. But rather than rush to blame the woman, let's not overlook the other key variable: What is the guy doing?
...
The essence of a good marriage, it seems to me, is that both people have to learn to change and keep on adapting.
...
So, guys, if you're game for an exciting life, go ahead and marry a professional gal.
She's really spending her time trying to shift blame and using her one, specific, personal circumstance to refute studies that were performed on much larger groups.