We don’t get together with other like minded earthlings every seven days to wallow in our unworthiness before an invisible deity. Actually I don’t give a flying fandango about what god/s others believe or do not believe in and I respect everyone’s right to freedom of religion.
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
Anyway, whilst researching ancient civilizations the other day I realized something that I had known all along, but which I now saw in a different light. Ancient Egyptians, Romans & Greeks, who were three of the most powerful civilizations ever, each worshipped many gods, while Israelites, if we are to believe the bible, worshipped only one …Yahweh.
Egypt, Rome & Greece were powerful & prosperous nations while Israel was mostly a nation of slaves. So does this mean that many gods are more powerful than a single one?
Of course you may argue that Egypt, Rome and Greece are no longer powerful empires, but Israel isn’t exactly Utopia either and only exists because it is supported, armed and financed by the West.
Given the option of moving to and living in one of the four, Israel would be bottom of my list, that’s for sure!
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Egypt would be at the bottom of mine. I guess I'd go with Rome, because I like Art & Food & Italians are good at that.
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AnneBoleyn;1388573 wrote: Egypt would be at the bottom of mine. I guess I'd go with Rome, because I like Art & Food & Italians are good at that.
A Greek island would pop my cork every time Annie!! :wah:
A Greek island would pop my cork every time Annie!! :wah:
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jones jones;1388570 wrote: We don’t get together with other like minded earthlings every seven days to wallow in our unworthiness before an invisible deity. Actually I don’t give a flying fandango about what god/s others believe or do not believe in and I respect everyone’s right to freedom of religion.
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
Anyway, whilst researching ancient civilizations the other day I realized something that I had known all along, but which I now saw in a different light. Ancient Egyptians, Romans & Greeks, who were three of the most powerful civilizations ever, each worshipped many gods, while Israelites, if we are to believe the bible, worshipped only one …Yahweh.
Egypt, Rome & Greece were powerful & prosperous nations while Israel was mostly a nation of slaves. So does this mean that many gods are more powerful than a single one?
Of course you may argue that Egypt, Rome and Greece are no longer powerful empires, but Israel isn’t exactly Utopia either and only exists because it is supported, armed and financed by the West.
Given the option of moving to and living in one of the four, Israel would be bottom of my list, that’s for sure!
No, it means that religion and social organisation evolve - originally every tree and brook had its attendant spirit and every thunderstorm or forest fire was an act of the Gods.
Time progressed and people came to see families of Gods acting in the same way as families of humans would as only with powers we could imagine but could not hope to emulate.
Time progressed and people began to think in terms of a single God with sayings and actions that made sense in terms of their society.
Time progressed and people began to see the larger questions and their God spoke in terms of those questions.
The religion does not dictate the strength of the empire - the thoughts of the people dictate the religion and, as society evolves, thought evolves with it.
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
Anyway, whilst researching ancient civilizations the other day I realized something that I had known all along, but which I now saw in a different light. Ancient Egyptians, Romans & Greeks, who were three of the most powerful civilizations ever, each worshipped many gods, while Israelites, if we are to believe the bible, worshipped only one …Yahweh.
Egypt, Rome & Greece were powerful & prosperous nations while Israel was mostly a nation of slaves. So does this mean that many gods are more powerful than a single one?
Of course you may argue that Egypt, Rome and Greece are no longer powerful empires, but Israel isn’t exactly Utopia either and only exists because it is supported, armed and financed by the West.
Given the option of moving to and living in one of the four, Israel would be bottom of my list, that’s for sure!
No, it means that religion and social organisation evolve - originally every tree and brook had its attendant spirit and every thunderstorm or forest fire was an act of the Gods.
Time progressed and people came to see families of Gods acting in the same way as families of humans would as only with powers we could imagine but could not hope to emulate.
Time progressed and people began to think in terms of a single God with sayings and actions that made sense in terms of their society.
Time progressed and people began to see the larger questions and their God spoke in terms of those questions.
The religion does not dictate the strength of the empire - the thoughts of the people dictate the religion and, as society evolves, thought evolves with it.
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jones jones;1388570 wrote: We don’t get together with other like minded earthlings every seven days to wallow in our unworthiness before an invisible deity. Actually I don’t give a flying fandango about what god/s others believe or do not believe in and I respect everyone’s right to freedom of religion.
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
Anyway, whilst researching ancient civilizations the other day I realized something that I had known all along, but which I now saw in a different light. Ancient Egyptians, Romans & Greeks, who were three of the most powerful civilizations ever, each worshipped many gods, while Israelites, if we are to believe the bible, worshipped only one …Yahweh.
Egypt, Rome & Greece were powerful & prosperous nations while Israel was mostly a nation of slaves. So does this mean that many gods are more powerful than a single one?
Of course you may argue that Egypt, Rome and Greece are no longer powerful empires, but Israel isn’t exactly Utopia either and only exists because it is supported, armed and financed by the West.
Given the option of moving to and living in one of the four, Israel would be bottom of my list, that’s for sure!
I have more leanings to Christianity but my belief Is that Jesus Christ did walk this earth but as a mortal. The bible Is a historical account of the life around Jesus Christ 2,000 years ago.
Many of the most significant biblical events have now been explained. For example... the parting of the waves, now historians can show that a tsunami struck at that time and the parting of the waves was the sea receding as It does before the wave follows back.... The great flood.
As for the Ancients, the most powerful civilisations were casualty's of natural disasters. The Ancient Egyptians It Is now believed died out due to the Nile drying up and a great draught and starvation.
I do enjoy your threads JJ... so thought Inducing....
The most fascinating Ancient for me was Pharaoh Amenhotep IV. He was raised In the traditional manner yet turned his back on Thebes, rejected all land gods worshiped by his fore-fathers, built a brand new city, Amarna In the middle of the desert and changed his name to Akhenaten ( of the sun ). What did he see I have always pondered.... fascinating stuff.
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
Anyway, whilst researching ancient civilizations the other day I realized something that I had known all along, but which I now saw in a different light. Ancient Egyptians, Romans & Greeks, who were three of the most powerful civilizations ever, each worshipped many gods, while Israelites, if we are to believe the bible, worshipped only one …Yahweh.
Egypt, Rome & Greece were powerful & prosperous nations while Israel was mostly a nation of slaves. So does this mean that many gods are more powerful than a single one?
Of course you may argue that Egypt, Rome and Greece are no longer powerful empires, but Israel isn’t exactly Utopia either and only exists because it is supported, armed and financed by the West.
Given the option of moving to and living in one of the four, Israel would be bottom of my list, that’s for sure!
I have more leanings to Christianity but my belief Is that Jesus Christ did walk this earth but as a mortal. The bible Is a historical account of the life around Jesus Christ 2,000 years ago.
Many of the most significant biblical events have now been explained. For example... the parting of the waves, now historians can show that a tsunami struck at that time and the parting of the waves was the sea receding as It does before the wave follows back.... The great flood.
As for the Ancients, the most powerful civilisations were casualty's of natural disasters. The Ancient Egyptians It Is now believed died out due to the Nile drying up and a great draught and starvation.
I do enjoy your threads JJ... so thought Inducing....
The most fascinating Ancient for me was Pharaoh Amenhotep IV. He was raised In the traditional manner yet turned his back on Thebes, rejected all land gods worshiped by his fore-fathers, built a brand new city, Amarna In the middle of the desert and changed his name to Akhenaten ( of the sun ). What did he see I have always pondered.... fascinating stuff.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Bryn Mawr;1388679 wrote: No, it means that religion and social organisation evolve - originally every tree and brook had its attendant spirit and every thunderstorm or forest fire was an act of the Gods.
Time progressed and people came to see families of Gods acting in the same way as families of humans would as only with powers we could imagine but could not hope to emulate.
Time progressed and people began to think in terms of a single God with sayings and actions that made sense in terms of their society.
Time progressed and people began to see the larger questions and their God spoke in terms of those questions.
The religion does not dictate the strength of the empire - the thoughts of the people dictate the religion and, as society evolves, thought evolves with it.
Did you know that there was no word for religion in the Ancient Egyptian language?
Time progressed and people came to see families of Gods acting in the same way as families of humans would as only with powers we could imagine but could not hope to emulate.
Time progressed and people began to think in terms of a single God with sayings and actions that made sense in terms of their society.
Time progressed and people began to see the larger questions and their God spoke in terms of those questions.
The religion does not dictate the strength of the empire - the thoughts of the people dictate the religion and, as society evolves, thought evolves with it.
Did you know that there was no word for religion in the Ancient Egyptian language?
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oscar;1388695 wrote: I have more leanings to Christianity but my belief Is that Jesus Christ did walk this earth but as a mortal. The bible Is a historical account of the life around Jesus Christ 2,000 years ago.
Many of the most significant biblical events have now been explained. For example... the parting of the waves, now historians can show that a tsunami struck at that time and the parting of the waves was the sea receding as It does before the wave follows back.... The great flood.
As for the Ancients, the most powerful civilisations were casualty's of natural disasters. The Ancient Egyptians It Is now believed died out due to the Nile drying up and a great draught and starvation.
I do enjoy your threads JJ... so thought Inducing....
The most fascinating Ancient for me was Pharaoh Amenhotep IV. He was raised In the traditional manner yet turned his back on Thebes, rejected all land gods worshiped by his fore-fathers, built a brand new city, Amarna In the middle of the desert and changed his name to Akhenaten ( of the sun ). What did he see I have always pondered.... fascinating stuff.
I too have no doubt at all that an earthling named Jesus lived and walked the planet.
But as I do not believe in god I cannot accept that this mythical entity had a son.
Many of the most significant biblical events have now been explained. For example... the parting of the waves, now historians can show that a tsunami struck at that time and the parting of the waves was the sea receding as It does before the wave follows back.... The great flood.
As for the Ancients, the most powerful civilisations were casualty's of natural disasters. The Ancient Egyptians It Is now believed died out due to the Nile drying up and a great draught and starvation.
I do enjoy your threads JJ... so thought Inducing....
The most fascinating Ancient for me was Pharaoh Amenhotep IV. He was raised In the traditional manner yet turned his back on Thebes, rejected all land gods worshiped by his fore-fathers, built a brand new city, Amarna In the middle of the desert and changed his name to Akhenaten ( of the sun ). What did he see I have always pondered.... fascinating stuff.
I too have no doubt at all that an earthling named Jesus lived and walked the planet.
But as I do not believe in god I cannot accept that this mythical entity had a son.
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jones jones;1388711 wrote: I too have no doubt at all that an earthling named Jesus lived and walked the planet.
But as I do not believe in god I cannot accept that this mythical entity had a son.
I also do not go down the route of 'Son of God.
In fact, although I pay little attention to Illuminati etc, I find It Inconceivable that a man In the Middle East would get to his 30's without marrying and producing offspring as a mortal. It's quite feasible that a blood line followed Jesus Christ.
But as I do not believe in god I cannot accept that this mythical entity had a son.
I also do not go down the route of 'Son of God.
In fact, although I pay little attention to Illuminati etc, I find It Inconceivable that a man In the Middle East would get to his 30's without marrying and producing offspring as a mortal. It's quite feasible that a blood line followed Jesus Christ.
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oscar;1388718 wrote: I also do not go down the route of 'Son of God.
In fact, although I pay little attention to Illuminati etc, I find It Inconceivable that a man In the Middle East would get to his 30's without marrying and producing offspring as a mortal. It's quite feasible that a blood line followed Jesus Christ.
Try googling The Lost Books of the Bible which weren't actually lost but suppressed by the church. There you will find a Book of Mary which deals with the childhood of her son Jesus. I found it very very interesting indeed!
In fact, although I pay little attention to Illuminati etc, I find It Inconceivable that a man In the Middle East would get to his 30's without marrying and producing offspring as a mortal. It's quite feasible that a blood line followed Jesus Christ.
Try googling The Lost Books of the Bible which weren't actually lost but suppressed by the church. There you will find a Book of Mary which deals with the childhood of her son Jesus. I found it very very interesting indeed!
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jones jones;1388749 wrote: Try googling The Lost Books of the Bible which weren't actually lost but suppressed by the church. There you will find a Book of Mary which deals with the childhood of her son Jesus. I found it very very interesting indeed!
Thank you, I will. That's very helpful....
I knew Mary Magdalene was suppressed by the church and I knew she had written her own book which was claimed as lost for many years.
I have read something somewhere where It was believed she fled by boat to Spain with a daughter following Christ's Crucifixion. That was not Dan Brown's version but a more factual account passed on through generations.
Thank you, I will. That's very helpful....
I knew Mary Magdalene was suppressed by the church and I knew she had written her own book which was claimed as lost for many years.
I have read something somewhere where It was believed she fled by boat to Spain with a daughter following Christ's Crucifixion. That was not Dan Brown's version but a more factual account passed on through generations.
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Mary Magdalene and Jesus' mother, whose name was also Mary, are two different people.
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Ahso!;1388762 wrote: Mary Magdalene and Jesus' mother, whose name was also Mary, are two different people. Thank you Ahso and can I just Interject at this moment to comment how lovely It Is to see you here?
I am very aware of the difference between the two Mary's. I went to a Christian Grammar school and part of my Curriculum was Religious studies. I also had to undertake Bible study In Primary School. Although I chose to not follow the religious path In my later life, unlike my brother who converted to Catholicism even naming his daughter after Mary Magdalene, my studies within the education system was sufficient that one knows Mary, Mother of Jesus and Mary, Mary Magdalene.
However, It was extremely kind of you to think of me and I can only Thank You for having my best Interests at heart.
My peace be with you.
I am very aware of the difference between the two Mary's. I went to a Christian Grammar school and part of my Curriculum was Religious studies. I also had to undertake Bible study In Primary School. Although I chose to not follow the religious path In my later life, unlike my brother who converted to Catholicism even naming his daughter after Mary Magdalene, my studies within the education system was sufficient that one knows Mary, Mother of Jesus and Mary, Mary Magdalene.
However, It was extremely kind of you to think of me and I can only Thank You for having my best Interests at heart.
My peace be with you.
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Hi Oscar. 
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
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I have only one thing to do and that's
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Ahso!;1388790 wrote: Hi Oscar.
Hi Ahso.
Shalom
Hi Ahso.
Shalom
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Ahso!;1388790 wrote: Hi Oscar.
oscar;1388794 wrote: Hi Ahso.
Shalom
Get a room.
oscar;1388794 wrote: Hi Ahso.
Shalom
Get a room.
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I think to believe that everything it takes to keep us on our axis, the laws of physics, the laws of nature etc...are a BIG OL ACCIDENT
is everyone's right. I just can't believe it myself, there has to be (in my my mind) a higher power that keeps everything in its place.
is everyone's right. I just can't believe it myself, there has to be (in my my mind) a higher power that keeps everything in its place.
"If America Was A Tree, The Left Would Root For The Termites...Greg Gutfeld."
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BTS;1388884 wrote: I think to believe that everything it takes to keep us on our axis, the laws of physics, the laws of nature etc...are a BIG OL ACCIDENT
is everyone's right. I just can't believe it myself, there has to be (in my my mind) a higher power that keeps everything in its place.You'd think any "higher power" or designer sure could have done a much better job, don't ya think?
is everyone's right. I just can't believe it myself, there has to be (in my my mind) a higher power that keeps everything in its place.You'd think any "higher power" or designer sure could have done a much better job, don't ya think?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
Voltaire
I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
Sink back into the ocean
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I have only one thing to do and that's
Be the wave that I am and then
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BTS;1388884 wrote: I think to believe that everything it takes to keep us on our axis, the laws of physics, the laws of nature etc...are a BIG OL ACCIDENT
is everyone's right. I just can't believe it myself, there has to be (in my my mind) a higher power that keeps everything in its place.
You make a point because In fact, the only time I am given to thinking of a higher being Is when looking at Molecular
models of DNA, and DNA structure. The precision Is so precise that I wonder If It could be the outcome of accident or evolution.
is everyone's right. I just can't believe it myself, there has to be (in my my mind) a higher power that keeps everything in its place.
You make a point because In fact, the only time I am given to thinking of a higher being Is when looking at Molecular
models of DNA, and DNA structure. The precision Is so precise that I wonder If It could be the outcome of accident or evolution.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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You make a point because In fact, the only time I am given to thinking of a higher being Is when looking at Molecular
models of DNA, and DNA structure. The precision Is so precise that I wonder If It could be the outcome of accident or evolution.
A hundred years ago, we didn't understand quantum physics. We are still in the early stages of learning about it. But a hundred years ago, phenomena that we couldn't understand was presumed to have some sort of supernatural causation. This is the way it has been throughout written history. The harvest was good this year because we got the right amount of sun. Last year it was bad. We have to remember to pray to the sun god.
We have only begun to understand DNA and the impact that some chromosomes have in turning on/off specific proclivities. We were amazed to discover how much DNA we share with dinosaurs and various animal species.
When my great grandparents were in school, there was nothing smaller than a molecule - there couldn't be. Awhile later, there was nothing smaller than an atom, then there was nothing smaller than an electron. Now we know enough to know how little we know. :-3
At each stage of history there were those who attempted to explain the world around them in terms of magic and supernatural forces. Galileo and others learned that logical and factual explanations that contradict religious tradition could get them into trouble. How dare they explain magic!
models of DNA, and DNA structure. The precision Is so precise that I wonder If It could be the outcome of accident or evolution.
A hundred years ago, we didn't understand quantum physics. We are still in the early stages of learning about it. But a hundred years ago, phenomena that we couldn't understand was presumed to have some sort of supernatural causation. This is the way it has been throughout written history. The harvest was good this year because we got the right amount of sun. Last year it was bad. We have to remember to pray to the sun god.
We have only begun to understand DNA and the impact that some chromosomes have in turning on/off specific proclivities. We were amazed to discover how much DNA we share with dinosaurs and various animal species.
When my great grandparents were in school, there was nothing smaller than a molecule - there couldn't be. Awhile later, there was nothing smaller than an atom, then there was nothing smaller than an electron. Now we know enough to know how little we know. :-3
At each stage of history there were those who attempted to explain the world around them in terms of magic and supernatural forces. Galileo and others learned that logical and factual explanations that contradict religious tradition could get them into trouble. How dare they explain magic!
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Wandrin;1388902 wrote: A hundred years ago, we didn't understand quantum physics. We are still in the early stages of learning about it. But a hundred years ago, phenomena that we couldn't understand was presumed to have some sort of supernatural causation. This is the way it has been throughout written history. The harvest was good this year because we got the right amount of sun. Last year it was bad. We have to remember to pray to the sun god.
We have only begun to understand DNA and the impact that some chromosomes have in turning on/off specific proclivities. We were amazed to discover how much DNA we share with dinosaurs and various animal species.
When my great grandparents were in school, there was nothing smaller than a molecule - there couldn't be. Awhile later, there was nothing smaller than an atom, then there was nothing smaller than an electron. Now we know enough to know how little we know. :-3
At each stage of history there were those who attempted to explain the world around them in terms of magic and supernatural forces. Galileo and others learned that logical and factual explanations that contradict religious tradition could get them into trouble. How dare they explain magic!
Which takes me full circle to my post re: Akhenaten rejecting Thebes and all land based gods worshiped by his Fore-Fathers, choosing Instead to worship the Sun.
I find the journey through quantum physics remarkable over even just the last century. It makes me wonder how much Is undiscovered and what more there Is.
We have only begun to understand DNA and the impact that some chromosomes have in turning on/off specific proclivities. We were amazed to discover how much DNA we share with dinosaurs and various animal species.
When my great grandparents were in school, there was nothing smaller than a molecule - there couldn't be. Awhile later, there was nothing smaller than an atom, then there was nothing smaller than an electron. Now we know enough to know how little we know. :-3
At each stage of history there were those who attempted to explain the world around them in terms of magic and supernatural forces. Galileo and others learned that logical and factual explanations that contradict religious tradition could get them into trouble. How dare they explain magic!
Which takes me full circle to my post re: Akhenaten rejecting Thebes and all land based gods worshiped by his Fore-Fathers, choosing Instead to worship the Sun.
I find the journey through quantum physics remarkable over even just the last century. It makes me wonder how much Is undiscovered and what more there Is.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Which takes me full circle to my post re: Akhenaten rejecting Thebes and all land based gods worshiped by his Fore-Fathers, choosing Instead to worship the Sun.
I find the journey through quantum physics remarkable over even just the last century. It makes me wonder how much Is undiscovered and what more there Is.
We know so little about how the brain works. Every time we think we understand something we learn that it isn't as simple as we thought. If I remember an apple, the taste of it is stored in a different location than the shape or color or the first time I saw one on a tree.
I find it to be fascinating that quantum physics was first described by a philosopher/mathematician, at a time when physicists were just about convinced that they understood physics. I love the areas of overlap between philosophy and science, math, etc.
Every time we learn something new, we realize how little we actually know. The quest is exciting.
I find the journey through quantum physics remarkable over even just the last century. It makes me wonder how much Is undiscovered and what more there Is.
We know so little about how the brain works. Every time we think we understand something we learn that it isn't as simple as we thought. If I remember an apple, the taste of it is stored in a different location than the shape or color or the first time I saw one on a tree.
I find it to be fascinating that quantum physics was first described by a philosopher/mathematician, at a time when physicists were just about convinced that they understood physics. I love the areas of overlap between philosophy and science, math, etc.
Every time we learn something new, we realize how little we actually know. The quest is exciting.
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Wandrin;1388954 wrote: We know so little about how the brain works. Every time we think we understand something we learn that it isn't as simple as we thought. If I remember an apple, the taste of it is stored in a different location than the shape or color or the first time I saw one on a tree.
I find it to be fascinating that quantum physics was first described by a philosopher/mathematician, at a time when physicists were just about convinced that they understood physics. I love the areas of overlap between philosophy and science, math, etc.
Every time we learn something new, we realize how little we actually know. The quest is exciting. Gosh, Yes, I agree.
Something else that makes me ponder Is scientists discovering Amino acids In Ice cores from the Antarctic Ice that trapped space dust dating back millions of years. Amino Acid being the starting block of life, they could only have come from space.
In 2009 for the first time, Amino Acid was found on a comet by the NASA Stardust Mission. Now, an Amino Acid called Glycine has been definitively traced to an Icy comet for the first time.
I find it to be fascinating that quantum physics was first described by a philosopher/mathematician, at a time when physicists were just about convinced that they understood physics. I love the areas of overlap between philosophy and science, math, etc.
Every time we learn something new, we realize how little we actually know. The quest is exciting. Gosh, Yes, I agree.
Something else that makes me ponder Is scientists discovering Amino acids In Ice cores from the Antarctic Ice that trapped space dust dating back millions of years. Amino Acid being the starting block of life, they could only have come from space.
In 2009 for the first time, Amino Acid was found on a comet by the NASA Stardust Mission. Now, an Amino Acid called Glycine has been definitively traced to an Icy comet for the first time.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Okay So I’m an Atheist.
oscar;1388958 wrote: Gosh, Yes, I agree.
Something else that makes me ponder Is scientists discovering Amino acids In Ice cores from the Antarctic Ice that trapped space dust dating back millions of years. Amino Acid being the starting block of life, they could only have come from space.
In 2009 for the first time, Amino Acid was found on a comet by the NASA Stardust Mission. Now, an Amino Acid called Glycine has been definitively traced to an Icy comet for the first time.
Back in the fifties came the Miller experiment. Take the primeval conditions to the best extent that they were understood and devise an apparatus that mimics it as well as possible but accelerates the reactions that would have occurred. There was no attempt to introduce organic chemistry, this was just a case of putting together the basic chemicals that would have existed before life and increasing the excitation levels to give a quicker result.
What they found was that, relatively quickly, recognisable organics were being synthesized in significant quantities.
That's a long way from showing that live can start from non-life but it does show that the concept of "primordial soup" is realistic. Subsequent experiments went on to extend the theory but that was the first to show that organics are not the sole preserve of life.
Something else that makes me ponder Is scientists discovering Amino acids In Ice cores from the Antarctic Ice that trapped space dust dating back millions of years. Amino Acid being the starting block of life, they could only have come from space.
In 2009 for the first time, Amino Acid was found on a comet by the NASA Stardust Mission. Now, an Amino Acid called Glycine has been definitively traced to an Icy comet for the first time.
Back in the fifties came the Miller experiment. Take the primeval conditions to the best extent that they were understood and devise an apparatus that mimics it as well as possible but accelerates the reactions that would have occurred. There was no attempt to introduce organic chemistry, this was just a case of putting together the basic chemicals that would have existed before life and increasing the excitation levels to give a quicker result.
What they found was that, relatively quickly, recognisable organics were being synthesized in significant quantities.
That's a long way from showing that live can start from non-life but it does show that the concept of "primordial soup" is realistic. Subsequent experiments went on to extend the theory but that was the first to show that organics are not the sole preserve of life.
Okay So I’m an Atheist.
Hmmmm. Adam was an amino acid?
Okay So I’m an Atheist.
jones jones;1388570 wrote:
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
If only you knew...If only you knew... If only you knew...
But I do study religion … western, eastern, New Age & freaky, just in case I am missing something that the millions of believers know that I do not. I think I am maybe searching for that elusive oracular man, woman or child who is re-writing history as he or she remembers it from previous lives.
If only you knew...If only you knew... If only you knew...
Om namo bagavate vasudevaya, " God is the Cause of All causes."