global warming/climate change

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:39 am

the contrast we're seeing in australia at the moment is unbelievable . I was a sceptic but I've been looking at our conditions over the past 7 years and it's getting a little weird..

Snow-like hail blankets NSW beach

Firstly hail on the beaches then two days later?

ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

It was us, then it was tassies turn now it looks like NSW's. And it's not even summer yet .......What the eff is going on?

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:55 am

fuzzywuzzy;1437899 wrote: the contrast we're seeing in australia at the moment is unbelievable . I was a sceptic but I've been looking at our conditions over the past 7 years and it's getting a little weird..

Snow-like hail blankets NSW beach

Firstly hail on the beaches then two days later?

ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

It was us, then it was tassies turn now it looks like NSW's. And it's not even summer yet .......What the eff is going on?

If you disturb a system that's in equilibrium then the result is a period of chaotic behaviour until it settles into a new steady state.

That is why we're seeing extremes in all directions - hottest, coldest, wettest driest ...

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:11 am

Aren't we on the arse end of an ice age? Plus I read that the ozone hole was fixed now ...WTF????....don't ask I'll find the link . we're lied to a lot that's why I'm sceptic. I want to see things for myself.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:36 am

Hmmmm I can't find the original link but have a look at the comments on this page after a 'catalyst" report

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/2974750.htm

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:09 pm

too much money behind the "science".

Trust but verify (if you can).

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:22 pm

halfway;1437950 wrote: too much money behind the "science".

Trust but verify (if you can).

There's a lot more money behind denying the science. If the science is accepted, the populations will want pollution lessened, and that might cut into profits ever so slightly.

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:40 am

Wandrin;1437952 wrote: There's a lot more money behind denying the science. If the science is accepted, the populations will want pollution lessened, and that might cut into profits ever so slightly.

I see you already have a premise on which you will convince yourself.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:35 am

halfway;1437967 wrote: I see you already have a premise on which you will convince yourself.

Yup. I will believe the 98% of climate scientists who say that humans are impacting climate over the billionaire industrialists who finance the naysayers.

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:21 am

Wandrin;1437971 wrote: Yup. I will believe the 98% of climate scientists who say that humans are impacting climate over the billionaire industrialists who finance the naysayers.
It comes down to the method in which these pesky humans must be controlled. They must be restricted in all means of producing carbon and greenhouse gasses.

Take a much deeper look into the funding those scientists pursue...very lucrative. What profit is to be made by denying their own source of cash?

We in the western world must cripple ourselves for the betterment of humanity and as an example for the emerging world to follow. Let China and India grow as fast as they wish while we constrain ourselves in both resources and individual liberties....for the good of mankind.

Of course, I (being a greedy human) still choose to live well.