FG Trivia

Post by **spot** » Wed May 02, 2012 6:46 am

Surely you mean after.

I propose we amend the motion so as to exclude everything written after 1936.

K.Snyder · Post by **K.Snyder** » Wed May 02, 2012 7:03 am

It is moved and seconded that we exclude all literature written before, on, or after 1936 from FG Trivia

Is there any discussion?

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed May 02, 2012 7:29 am

I'm agin it.

I wasn't around back then.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:37 am

What about questions about the Seoul Tube system ?

Such as "What colour is line 2 on the Seoul Subway map?"

I wonder who would know their own Capital cities tube line colour chart ?

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:42 am

Bruv;1392728 wrote: What about questions about the Seoul Tube system ?

Such as "What colour is line 2 on the Seoul Subway map?"

I wonder who would know their own Capital cities tube line colour chart ?

:o errrm I know them, but then, I'm a bit of a London tube nut, it fascinates me :wah:

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:45 am

I am a Londoner and I would be hard pressed to name any of them.

theia · Post by **theia** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:52 am

Bruv;1392728 wrote: What about questions about the Seoul Tube system ?

Such as "What colour is line 2 on the Seoul Subway map?"

I wonder who would know their own Capital cities tube line colour chart ?

Green!!!

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:54 am

ya can't know everything, and it would be pointless to have a trivia game where everybody did.

And there is always the WAG.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed May 02, 2012 9:02 am

theia;1392731 wrote: Green!!!

That makes you more of a nerd than me :wah:

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:44 am

Betty Boop;1392733 wrote: That makes you more of a nerd than me :wah:

She doesn't even know what Tube means, they have subways don't they ?

And.......if she does know......it's because of the silly trivia quiz questions and her brilliant memory ( I forgot what is was instantly)

tabby · Post by **tabby** » Thu May 03, 2012 8:47 am

Bruv;1392730 wrote: I am a Londoner and I would be hard pressed to name any of them.

For Bruv ~~~~~> Rainbow Burst Heart Cross Stitch Kit by Jacqui Pearce

You could cross stitch it in your spare time ... it might come in handy some day!

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:15 am

tabby;1392845 wrote: For Bruv ~~~~~> Rainbow Burst Heart Cross Stitch Kit by Jacqui Pearce

You could cross stitch it in your spare time ... it might come in handy some day!

The District Line is not dark enough - makes the whole map look wrong :p

And the Metropolitan Line should be brown but that doesn't stand out so much

Post by **spot** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:43 am

... and where are the names of the stations?

tabby · Post by **tabby** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:59 am

I KNEW something was missing!! :-3

Post by **spot** » Thu May 03, 2012 10:23 am

I'm so getting trashed on this month's scorecard and we're only two days in...

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu May 03, 2012 1:39 pm

I had a flukey one today............it wont last.

I am loosing it with this quiz.

Here's a trivial question you might be able to answer.

Why is the paper clip symbol covering the link to the page on some threads, I know it is because the thread has images,(why the need for the paper clip thingy ?) and why overlay the last page link ?

I clicked here, got a pop up box with image icons in, and an option to View the Thread.

Post by **spot** » Thu May 03, 2012 2:13 pm

Overlaying the page links is just bad layout. If I have a butterfly I click that and get to the first unread post. If I don't, I click the frog to get to the last post or the thread title to get to the first. I've not found a practical need for the page links at all.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu May 03, 2012 2:36 pm

spot;1392873 wrote: Overlaying the page links is just bad layout. If I have a butterfly I click that and get to the first unread post. If I don't, I click the frog to get to the last post or the thread title to get to the first. I've not found a practical need for the page links at all.
The 'page links' being the intermediate ones between first and last do you mean ?

I must take more notice, butterflies and frogs ?

Post by **spot** » Thu May 03, 2012 2:49 pm

Including the first and last, yes.

The animals are green.

Post by **spot** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:22 pm

I note that a new month competition starts on the first day of August, and that it's more fun the more people play. Anyone who's played before might like to grasp the nettle and make August a points bonanza.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:05 am

This is the month-end call to anyone who'd like to play for the October FG Trivia contest which starts tomorrow. Please join in, the URL is Forumgarden Trivia - Daily Trivia Game and everyone's welcome. September has been resoundingly won by Bryn despite his holidaying in foreign parts for most of the month, G&T in one hand and online smartphone in the other.

flopstock · Post by **flopstock** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:09 am

where is the link?

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:10 am

flopstock;1406146 wrote: where is the link?
It was in the text. I've just added it to my .sig for long-term reference.

FG Trivia game

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:13 am

Here's the recent play, for those interested. Chonsi swept all before her but she was playing catch-up.

Attached files

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:04 pm

Perhaps I might point out to Bryn that starting the month with two tens despite being on a parlous signal from an isolated island in the Mediterranean is just not cricket.

Did you know Phil Lees lives on Crete? Philip J. Lees (on VPS)

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:47 pm

FG;1406454 wrote: Perhaps I might point out to Bryn that starting the month with two tens despite being on a parlous signal from an isolated island in the Mediterranean is just not cricket.

Did you know Phil Lees lives on Crete? Philip J. Lees (on VPS)

I had no idea - we must have passed close by his Cretan base on our way out to Sitia. If I thought he might be here rather than on Evia I'd tae a detour on the way back to the airport.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:09 pm

Let's all go on holiday to get higher scores! I hope you had a wonderful time, Bryn!

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:08 pm

Has anyone the slightest idea of how the FG Trivia quiz score is calculated. It seems to be similar in complexity to the Duckworth Lewis system of scoring a one day cricket match (when rain delayed)

Duckworth–Lewis method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As with most non-trivial statistical derivations, the D/L method can produce results that are somewhat counter intuitive

Sounds very familiar

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:26 pm

I have, I fear, worked it out from trial and error. You'd do well to remain in a state of prelapsarian innocence.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:37 pm

Snowfire;1409383 wrote: Has anyone the slightest idea of how the FG Trivia quiz score is calculated. It seems to be similar in complexity to the Duckworth Lewis system of scoring a one day cricket match (when rain delayed)

Duckworth–Lewis method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sounds very familiar

The score is simple - correct answers * 100 - seconds taken.

The points awarded are not calculated, they're table driven and I, personally, don't think they're well chosen for small groups.

I did write a spreadsheet at one point to replicate the leaderboard using the score rather than the points. Worked well enough and, in my opinion, gave a more balanced result but the quiz site is as it is.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:26 pm

Chonsi and I both got 7 correct answers and while I took much longer, we both got the same points. I think 2 points is derisory for 7/10. I took an average of 12 seconds per question (Chonsi even faster at an average of 7 seconds an answer). My average is more than most because my propensity to throw my arms in the air at some of the ludicrous questions and huff and puff alot

Then I press "submit" and throw my hands in the air and huff and puff at the scores.

I can understand that there must be a time penalty to prohibit cheating. I'm thinking of devising some software to slow time down during a quiz so I can do just that

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:03 pm

I have given up being amazed at the Trivia quiz.

Or should I say I have given up on the Trivia quiz ?

I took longer to read the questions than it took some people to finish the quiz.

Then some of the questions were so obscure as to not be what I would call 'Trivia'

The History questions are based on old musicals, that is where the history comes in.

There is also an American bias if sport or TV or politics is a topic.

Then I realised that the questions are on a loop, that they get repeated over time.......or so it seems, maybe I'm wrong.

So I have called it a day.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:04 am

Heads up, it's a new month in a new year, a fresh start, everyone's welcome to play. If you haven't, give it a go. If you have, get a good start.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:34 am

4. Snowfire + 5 pts 6 126 474

5. jonesjones + 4 pts 6 127 473

This is a prime example of how ludicrous the awarding of points is. Me and jj get both get 6 out of 10 answers correct. I am faster by a single second and am awarded a full point more. Its not rare either and its just plain daft

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:42 am

That's a boundary effect. It would be less significant if scores were to a decimal place (4.6 or 4.7, for example) or two (4.64 or 4.65) but that would still have the effect. I agree that the rounding to whole number scores with a very few players makes the boundary jump notable but if we were playing with, say, 50 players a day, the numbers would blend far more than with just 5. You could have been hundreds of seconds apart and still had the same scores, you only perceive an unfairness because the difference is just one second.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:25 pm

Týr;1424279 wrote: That's a boundary effect. It would be less significant if scores were to a decimal place (4.6 or 4.7, for example) or two (4.64 or 4.65) but that would still have the effect. I agree that the rounding to whole number scores with a very few players makes the boundary jump notable but if we were playing with, say, 50 players a day, the numbers would blend far more than with just 5. You could have been hundreds of seconds apart and still had the same scores, you only perceive an unfairness because the difference is just one second.

I have seen this in its extreme forms, scores of 10, 10, 9, 9 and 2 would give the two 9s and the 2 the same score. If this was the first day of the competition then it could well re-order the ranking so that the person with the 2 correct is third.

Over the month, however, it does tend to equal itself out. I've tried running it from the score (which I see as an objective measure of how well you've done) rather than the points awarded and not seen any differences in the top of the leaderboard.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:52 am

Homies, dudes and bitches. Yo.

Today is the first day of the month, the scores are cleared down, the contest is renewed. It plays best with a dozen regulars, it's been running for a few months with four and we need more players to excite each other more effectively. Do please bookmark the site and give it a shot, everyone's very welcome. Get your granny to join in. Invite your local dealer.

Forumgarden Trivia - Daily Trivia Game

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:24 am

Fine, I'll play. I reckon I can help some folks look smart.

Didn't realize how much I didn't know until I started play that stupid game.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:27 am

FG;1439230 wrote: Homies, dudes and bitches. Yo.

Today is the first day of the month, the scores are cleared down, the contest is renewed. It plays best with a dozen regulars, it's been running for a few months with four and we need more players to excite each other more effectively. Do please bookmark the site and give it a shot, everyone's very welcome. Get your granny to join in. Invite your local dealer.

Forumgarden Trivia - Daily Trivia Game

Homies is what drew me in.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:44 am

YZGI;1439255 wrote: Homies is what drew me in.
Me......it was the prospect of some bitches............suckered again.

The US flavoured questions reminded me of why I dropped this some time ago

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:52 am

Bruv;1439256 wrote: Me......it was the prospect of some bitches............suckered again.

The US flavoured questions reminded me of why I dropped this some time ago

That's funny. I get stuck on the "British-flavoured" questions.

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:01 am

As Grantland Rice so memorably expressed the idea,Keep coming back, and though the world may romp across your spine,

Let every game's end find you still upon the battling line;

For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name,

He writes—not that you won or lost—but how you played the Game.

Bravo those who have followed theia to the wicket. Another four volunteers for the team, please!

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:00 pm

I was going to play but can't get in. I guess it's because I'm playing on another site?

theia · Post by **theia** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:28 pm

And there was me thinking that no one would notice my measly score of 3

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:52 pm

theia;1439280 wrote: And there was me thinking that no one would notice my measly score of 3

Thanks for that, kept me from being the bottom rung.

LOL

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:54 pm

ZAP;1439279 wrote: I was going to play but can't get in. I guess it's because I'm playing on another site?

One login on that trivia site can only play in one tournament. If you have two browsers you could use each for a different login, that's what I've done when confronted with the problem, but the issue is certainly a drawback.

theia · Post by **theia** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:55 pm

YZGI;1439281 wrote: Thanks for that, kept me from being the bottom rung.

LOL

Ah, you saw through my cunning plan :sneaky:

FG-administator · Post by **FG-administator** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:04 pm

theia;1439283 wrote: Ah, you saw through my cunning plan :sneaky:

Perhaps we could quote from William Henley's Invictus for you.In the fell clutch of circumstance

I have not winced nor cried aloud.

Under the bludgeonings of chance

My head is bloody, but unbowed.Perhaps you've earned a cup of tea.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:15 pm

ZAP;1439279 wrote: I was going to play but can't get in. I guess it's because I'm playing on another site?

I've played in two before now, no problem as long as you log out of one before logging into the other.

It's wonderful to see a few more players on the list - come one come all, the more players the better the game.

ZAP · Post by **ZAP** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:45 pm

Thanks. I logged out and came back in here but how do I get into the quiz?