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Three members of a so-called 'Muslim Patrol' were today jailed at the Old Bailey for repeatedly trying to enforce Sharia law in East London.

I wonder if this will get the same response amongst the people that paraded it as a sign of Muslim's slipping in sharia law under cover.

UK Law has been seen to be done.
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That's quite like how the Salvation Army started, and for broadly the same reason, and in pretty much the same part of London too. I suspect these chaps are rather more polite than the Salvation Army was before it calmed down and went legal. And I seem to remember that "General" Booth did jail time as a result of his antics.
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It;s not a case of Sharia Law ' Slipping In' . It's been going on for years. This article Is from 2011

Tower Hamlets Taliban: Death threats to women and gays attacked in the streets | Mail Online

It's often the case that when victims feel let down by the police who seem to have turned a blind eye for years, they turn to the Far Right for help. They have hundreds of case files that have never been Investigated by police or no prosecution from the CPS.

The fact that this Is the first publicised case shows the media's silence on this matter.

It's criminal. They may feel they are doing the best not to Inflame racial tensions In those area's but at the end of the day, the victims have been attacked, assaulted, threatened and left In fear the same as any other victim. What they In effect do, Is create more racial tension by dumbing down hundreds of attacks.

In area's of some city centre's where white British Is the minority at figures as low as 40 % of the population, It's not a case of Sharia Law slipping In. In those area's, Sharia Law can be the dominant practice and people like those jailed today feel they have every right to Impose It.

Those today have not so much been jailed for Imposing Sharia Law but for assault. It's assault whatever religion you dress It up In.

I just hope It sends a very clear message.
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Týr;1442334 wrote: That's quite like how the Salvation Army started, and for broadly the same reason, and in pretty much the same part of London too. I suspect these chaps are rather more polite than the Salvation Army was before it calmed down and went legal. And I seem to remember that "General" Booth did jail time as a result of his antics.


Somehow I suspect the Salvation Army has little in common with those who go about pushing the Sharia Law thingy.
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tude dog;1442349 wrote: Somehow I suspect the Salvation Army has little in common with those who go about pushing the Sharia Law thingy.


That's who you sound like, Sarah Palin. I'm sure she is someone you admire greatly.
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tude dog;1442349 wrote: Somehow I suspect the Salvation Army has little in common with those who go about pushing the Sharia Law thingy.


Of course they don't. The victims have been threatened and assaulted. Hardly a joking matter,
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Can't say I'm worried. I'd back british racist/bigot thugs against muslim racist/bigot thugs any day. A lot of religious fanatics mistake tolerance for weakness, these idiots are out to provoke a violent reaction if they're not careful they might get what they wish for.
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gmc;1442379 wrote: Can't say I'm worried. I'd back british racist/bigot thugs against muslim racist/bigot thugs any day. A lot of religious fanatics mistake tolerance for weakness, these idiots are out to provoke a violent reaction if they're not careful they might get what they wish for.


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As I said, the silence by mainstream British media Into the dumbing down of what has been happening for years Is deafening.
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tude dog;1442349 wrote: Somehow I suspect the Salvation Army has little in common with those who go about pushing the Sharia Law thingy.


You think? They were early Prohibitionists, for example. They went from one drinking house to another trying to publicly shame individual drinkers into temperance. They went to great lengths - illegal lengths in some instances - to get the laws of England changed to reflect their Christian ideals even where they had no Biblical injunction to push for their particular "religious" notions.
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Týr;1442391 wrote: You think? They were early Prohibitionists, for example. They went from one drinking house to another trying to publicly shame individual drinkers into temperance. They went to great lengths - illegal lengths in some instances - to get the laws of England changed to reflect their Christian ideals even where they had no Biblical injunction to push for their particular "religious" notions.


The Temperance League in the States was equally over-zealous.

Some of my ancestors were fairly active. I remember hearing some stories from my great aunts of their grandmother.
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'Send the lot back': UKIP councillor defends anti-immigration video comments - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

Send the lot back': UKIP councillor defends anti-immigration video comments


Farage and griffin are both the descendants of immigrants now they prattle on about a vision of Britishness that only exists in their fevered imaginations. At least he won't be promoting it in scotland any time soon.

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Why did the US and its European allies treat Saudi Arabia with such restraint when the kingdom was so central to al-Qa'ida and other even more sectarian Sunni jihadist organisations? An obvious explanation is that the US, Britain and others did not want to offend a close ally and that the Saudi royal family had judiciously used its money to buy its way into the international ruling class. Unconvincing attempts were made to link Iran and Iraq to al-Qa'ida when the real culprits were in plain sight.


You know you couldn't make this stuff up - if it was a fictional story it would be laughed out of print as being unbelievable. We're fighting a proxy religious war for the saudis who have so far knocked out iraq, iran, egypt and syria leaving them the only makor power in the middle east. Most people in this country don't know the difference between a sunni or a shia how the hell did we end up involved in all of this? Sadly we can only blame ourselves for electing the idiots we do.

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You think? They were early Prohibitionists, for example. They went from one drinking house to another trying to publicly shame individual drinkers into temperance. They went to great lengths - illegal lengths in some instances - to get the laws of England changed to reflect their Christian ideals even where they had no Biblical injunction to push for their particular "religious" notions.


Compared to the ones in america they were complete failures.
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gmc;1442400 wrote: 'Send the lot back': UKIP councillor defends anti-immigration video comments - UK Politics - UK - The Independent



Farage and griffin are both the descendants of immigrants now they prattle on about a vision of Britishness that only exists in their fevered imaginations. At least he won't be promoting it in scotland any time soon.

. Then you really have no Idea of the BNP or Nick Griffin. Can't speak for UKIP. bunch of morons.

The Ideology of any Nationalist Party Is not to boot out all Johnny Foriegners and It's certainly not to say all members can only be English descent. That's Impossible given we are a European mongrel nation by descent. It's about preserving the Indigenous population as the dominant population. Stopping Immigration Is to preserve the white British, It's nation and culture as the dominant way of life and keeping the country as British.

But then most people who slate Nationalist parties such as the BNP know jack s.hit when It comes to the Ideology. In fact, have a good look at some of the key figures In the BNP. You'll find Sikh's, Hindu's, Jews, South Africans,
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Týr;1442334 wrote: That's quite like how the Salvation Army started, and for broadly the same reason, and in pretty much the same part of London too. I suspect these chaps are rather more polite than the Salvation Army was before it calmed down and went legal. And I seem to remember that "General" Booth did jail time as a result of his antics.


I'm not sure it's the same Tyr. It's one thing to accost someone for your own beliefs but it's quite another to tell someone that English Law does not apply to a certain area of London.
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oscar;1442403 wrote: Then you really have no Idea of the BNP or Nick Griffin. Can't speak for UKIP. bunch of morons.

The Ideology of any Nationalist Party Is not to boot out all Johnny Foriegners and It's certainly not to say all members can only be English descent. That's Impossible given we are a European mongrel nation by descent. It's about preserving the Indigenous population as the dominant population. Stopping Immigration Is to preserve the white British, It's nation and culture as the dominant way of life and keeping the country as British.

But then most people who slate Nationalist parties such as the BNP know jack s.hit when It comes to the Ideology. In fact, have a good look at some of the key figures In the BNP. You'll find Sikh's, Hindu's, Jews, South Africans,


Assuming people who do not support the lunatic fringes of the political right know nothing of their policies is a bit desperate, even for a daily mail reader. That they might make one or two valid criticisms does not make them a credible political party. All you ever do is re-iterate the same garbage over and over again using slogans from the last brochure you read rather than produce your own arguments. It's a toss up which is the bigger bunch of morons UKIP or BNP - your words not mine, despite your support of the BNP I am not actually convinced you are a moron.
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gmc;1442410 wrote: Assuming people who do not support the lunatic fringes of the political right know nothing of their policies is a bit desperate, even for a daily mail reader. That they might make one or two valid criticisms does not make them a credible political party. All you ever do is re-iterate the same garbage over and over again using slogans from the last brochure you read rather than produce your own arguments. It's a toss up which is the bigger bunch of morons UKIP or BNP - your words not mine, despite your support of the BNP I am not actually convinced you are a moron.


I do have a tad more Involvement than reading the latest brochure you know.

It' s especially comical coming from A Scotsman who lives In the deluded world of Alex Salmond.



Put It this way, Nick Griffin and Alex Salmond.... one Is a deluded, Nationalist, Ideologist, totalitarian and the other Is Nick Griffin.
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oscar;1442420 wrote: I do have a tad more Involvement than reading the latest brochure you know.

It' s especially comical coming from A Scotsman who lives In the deluded world of Alex Salmond.



Put It this way, Nick Griffin and Alex Salmond.... one Is a deluded, Nationalist, Ideologist, totalitarian and the other Is Nick Griffin.


You know a lot less about politics than you pretend don't you:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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gmc;1442437 wrote: You know a lot less about politics than you pretend don't you:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl


That's SNP code for ' I don't know how to answer that'.
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oscar;1442443 wrote: That's SNP code for ' I don't know how to answer that'.


What a crappy conspiracy theory. We don;t speak to each other in code it's called a scottish accent. I hear farage is boycotting newcastle on the grounds it's full of people not speaking proper english.
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AnneBoleyn;1442351 wrote: That's who you sound like, Sarah Palin. I'm sure she is someone you admire greatly.


I apologize. I missed it where Sara Palin entered.

As far as Sara, long story short, not a fan. When it was announced she would be Mc Cain's VP candidate, I knew it was a disater.

One thing she did which I give mixed reviews is when as V.P. candidate, as governor of Alaska pardons a turkey.

What happens after that,,

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Well, chopping heads off turkeys doesn't bother me. I kinda got the whole hunting traditional America message. Being blunt about it loses more votes.
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When you said "thingy", TD, that's a word she often uses. Cutesy stuff, like "How's your Hopey Changey Thingy going?" An actual quote.

Glad to hear otherwise.
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gmc;1442450 wrote: What a crappy conspiracy theory. We don;t speak to each other in code it's called a scottish accent. I hear farage is boycotting newcastle on the grounds it's full of people not speaking proper english. No It's because every time Farage goes north of Carlisle, people try to kill him. We're more dignified In the South... we just shout ' wanker ' at him.

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AnneBoleyn;1442462 wrote: When you said "thingy", TD, that's a word she often uses. Cutesy stuff, like "How's your Hopey Changey Thingy going?" An actual quote.

Glad to hear otherwise.


Come to think of it, seems she did that a lot. I mostly picked up the 'thingy" word from another site where on an occasion it maybe used. Never made the connevion to Sara.

I still like the thingy word.
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oscar;1442467 wrote: No It's because every time Farage goes north of Carlisle, people try to kill him. We're more dignified In the South... we just shout ' wanker ' at him.

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Scotland too is multicultural - I'm not a teuchter so I don't know what you just called me. I live in a part of scotland that takes it's name from the king of a british (as in the people who lived in britain before the english came) tribe that was caught between the angles and the picts and survives only in place names. The name welsh for the Welsh derives from a saxon word for stranger the irony of which is probably beyond the capacity of farage to appreciate as in his fantasy world english/welsh/irish/scottish are all part of a homogeneous whole.
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gmc;1442476 wrote: Scotland too is multicultural - I'm not a teuchter so I don't know what you just called me. I live in a part of scotland that takes it's name from the king of a british (as in the people who lived in britain before the english came) tribe that was caught between the angles and the picts and survives only in place names. The name welsh for the Welsh derives from a saxon word for stranger the irony of which is probably beyond the capacity of farage to appreciate as in his fantasy world english/welsh/irish/scottish are all part of a homogeneous whole.


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gmc;1442476 wrote: Scotland too is multicultural - I'm not a teuchter so I don't know what you just called me. I live in a part of scotland that takes it's name from the king of a british (as in the people who lived in britain before the english came) tribe that was caught between the angles and the picts and survives only in place names. The name welsh for the Welsh derives from a saxon word for stranger the irony of which is probably beyond the capacity of farage to appreciate as in his fantasy world english/welsh/irish/scottish are all part of a homogeneous whole.


In DNA terms, those in the UK that think of themselves as either Anglo Saxon, Celtic, Viking, Dane, whatever are deluded. Weve only had that DNA for a couple of thousand years. Our real heritage and what our DNA really show is where we all originally come from, which Iberian in origin, about 9,000 years ago. The part where we see ourselves as Anglo Saxon/Celtic or whatever is so diluted as to be pretty insignificant, because it is so recent.

We all like to pretend what we think we are but the reality is, we are all very similar with small cultural differences
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