First of all, I appreciate I'm not everyone's cup of tea here and some may even frown on my Far Right leanings and connections but I need to vent.
I spend a huge amount of time working voluntary In my community and I genuinely care about the people I live around. I know It sounds bigheaded but I am the one people come to around here.
We started to cook some meal batches up for an elderly man alone In the street and I'm guessing his neighbour saw this and thought he'd have some of the same. His wife was divorcing him and while the divorce went through, his wife and kids lived In seperate rooms of the house.
It started with him asking us just to nip to the shop to get him some ciggs... a year on I had to have strong words with him because he was sapping the life out of my husband by getting him to shop 3 to 4 times a week all In our car on our petrol. He slowly became more and more demanding as time went on and had me cleaning his room once a week and doing all his washing and Ironing which Included shampooing his carpet and bedding when he had s'hit the bed.
One fortnight, he'd called one of us round to do things for him 12 days out of 14.
Why did we do all this for him unpaid? Because he told us he was terminal with only months to live. Every time he got one of us round to do something for him, he always Insisted It was while the wife and kids were out of the house. He basically did a hatchet job on his wife with all neighbours to stop them getting friendly with her and hearing he'd done this to others..
When I had words with him about treating us like hired help, he started calling ambulances out late at night. He called ambulances out 6 times In 4 months.
Every time we were tied up for a few days, he claim he'd had a fall. These falls were always of his bed 2 Inches onto the ground and onto carpet.
One night after he'd got me round there at midnight to meet with paramedics and again after checking his vitals and gas exchange and finding nothing wrong, I asked the paramedic about his final stage Pulmonary Fibrosis ( as my husband has ) and the paramedic told me he didn't have PF, just a bit of asthma.
So I asked him who his consultant was and he didn't have one which rang alarm bells so I checked his medication... nothing for PF, just an asthma Inhaler and over the counter stuff.
By now he'd conned me that he was so Infirm that he needed me to strip wash him and clean up after he had s'hit the bed. He had us cooking meals for him also and delivering them to his door.
One night I bumped Into his wife and we talked for 3 hours. Everything has been a well rehearsed con trick to this man.
I rang his Practice manager and after a long chat of which she would not disclose anything but just told us we had been well and truely conned.
Peter went round to see him making sure his wife and kids were there as witness's and told him we would not be seeing him any more. Peter wasn't at all nasty to him, quite the opposite.
I'd have least expected the guy to say ' Fair enough Peter, thanks for all you've done over the year' But No, his exact words were to shrug and say " I'll get someone else then, I'll get a carer".
We thought that was the end of It but No.
One time during the year when we were tied up for a few days, he said he could always use Anne next door. I stressed to him that the woman had just Identified her teenage son's body and buried him and please don't bother her. But who was the first neighbour he hit on after Peter's visit ? Anne !!
The first thing he did was tell Anne It was me who'd reported her to the Housing Authority... I guess to do a hatchet job on me as he did his wife and kids to stop us telling her he was a con man. What he didn't expect was Anne coming straight round to me and telling me what he said. She also told us that he said he'd had to wash his hands of us because we had fleeced him for hundreds and hundreds of pounds.
With that, I wrote to him and told him he had 14 days to offer Peter something for a years use of our car and fuel or I'd file with the court for ' Obtaining services by deception'. He stated he'd not pay a penny because Peter had offered to shop for him. As I pointed out, he may have Initially but that was when we thought he had months to live.
New Years Eve I get a phone call from my Asian Taxi driver who lives the other side of him who told me he had tried telling him I was blackmailing him who told him very quickly to F off. Is he mad ???? I work with the taxi driver on the school runs, we spend 6 hours a day with each other and he tells me everything.
So yes, I called In some muscle and we went round to this guys house new years eve and yes, I was sober, I don't drink. My taxi driver drove all the way back from city centre just to back me up. The wimp wouldn't even answer the door and held a conversation with my friend out of his bedroom window. My 'muscle' was not at all threatening just told him no-one was going to sit back and watch him slander myself or Peter. He was adamnat he'd done nothing wrong. He never spoke a word to me but waited until we'd walked away and I was at the end of the road and then called out abuse to me. So yes, I lost It... I stomped back up the road and told him If he had anything to say to me then come down and open the door Instead of shouting out the window when he thought I was out of sight like a wimp. Still, I got to let rip and tell him what a piece of scum he was conning and using a 70 year old genuine terminal patient. Also told him, I would never, ever let this drop.
A few hours later, Peter got a text asking him If he'd settle out of court... and by the next day, he'd paid up.... Thus admitting his guilt.
As for the money... It was never about the money... just getting him to recognise what a scum bag he was. Peter gave his daughter a large part of the money after he ripped off his own daughter over a car ( long story).
The rest has gone Into my Christmas Pet food charity appeal.
I don't care about myself but my husband feels absolutely gutted that when he believed this man was terminal, he genuinely cared for his welfare and has taken It really badly.
I need to get this off my chest...
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I remember you telling us about the daughter's car.
God, I can't imagine telling anyone I had sh1t my bed much less having them bathe me and clean the sheets unless I really was terminally ill. What a deranged lunatic.
God, I can't imagine telling anyone I had sh1t my bed much less having them bathe me and clean the sheets unless I really was terminally ill. What a deranged lunatic.
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Snooz;1443826 wrote: I remember you telling us about the daughter's car.
God, I can't imagine telling anyone I had sh1t my bed much less having them bathe me and clean the sheets unless I really was terminally ill. What a deranged lunatic.
Since then Snooz without an E... I have been doing some research Into Munchausen syndrome.
All sites say the same that although It's not an actual Illness or condition, therefore It's not excusable In a court of law, The criteria fits this guy to a tee.
They say people who have this are extremely good liars, controlling, extremely manipulative and usually have a good knowledge of the medical profession and are usually very Intelligent. This guy was a claims Inspector for years for a medical Insurence company !! Treatment Is only behaviour therapy providing they admit they are lying. If they don't admit to lying then they advise the medical proffession to distance themselves from them. They say also that the Illness's they feign are often breathlessness and bowel disorders because to a non medic, these can't be disproved. He called ambulances claiming he couldn't get his breath and he claimed he s.hit the bed because he couldn't get to the toilet quick enough due to severe diahorra... he absolutely fits the criteria. They feign Illness to get medical attention and to get people to care for them.
Christmas Eve, his young daughter turned up at our house In tears and asked If she could talk some things through with Peter. We said we couldn't make out why the very first time he called an ambulance, they kept him In hospital for a week given exhaustive tests found nothing wrong with him and the NHS are always short of beds. She told us that after a week, she went to the hospital and the nursing staff took her aside to tell her they were Involving Social Services. Every day he had begged nursing staff to let him stay another night because he was In fear of what his ex wife would do to him If he went home. She, thank god, told them this was absolute lies and If anything they were In fear of him but he had a history of portraying himself as the victim to get attention. So he even duped proffessional nursing staff !!!
Münchausen syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
God, I can't imagine telling anyone I had sh1t my bed much less having them bathe me and clean the sheets unless I really was terminally ill. What a deranged lunatic.
Since then Snooz without an E... I have been doing some research Into Munchausen syndrome.
All sites say the same that although It's not an actual Illness or condition, therefore It's not excusable In a court of law, The criteria fits this guy to a tee.
They say people who have this are extremely good liars, controlling, extremely manipulative and usually have a good knowledge of the medical profession and are usually very Intelligent. This guy was a claims Inspector for years for a medical Insurence company !! Treatment Is only behaviour therapy providing they admit they are lying. If they don't admit to lying then they advise the medical proffession to distance themselves from them. They say also that the Illness's they feign are often breathlessness and bowel disorders because to a non medic, these can't be disproved. He called ambulances claiming he couldn't get his breath and he claimed he s.hit the bed because he couldn't get to the toilet quick enough due to severe diahorra... he absolutely fits the criteria. They feign Illness to get medical attention and to get people to care for them.
Christmas Eve, his young daughter turned up at our house In tears and asked If she could talk some things through with Peter. We said we couldn't make out why the very first time he called an ambulance, they kept him In hospital for a week given exhaustive tests found nothing wrong with him and the NHS are always short of beds. She told us that after a week, she went to the hospital and the nursing staff took her aside to tell her they were Involving Social Services. Every day he had begged nursing staff to let him stay another night because he was In fear of what his ex wife would do to him If he went home. She, thank god, told them this was absolute lies and If anything they were In fear of him but he had a history of portraying himself as the victim to get attention. So he even duped proffessional nursing staff !!!
Münchausen syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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The story of the car.... can you believe a human being can do this ??? !!!
During the last months of our relationship at a time when we believed and trusted him, he asked my husband If he'd take his ex wife and young daughter to help them buy a new car. He said he would part-exchange his car and he was buying It as a gift for his daughter. So Peter spent two days at dealerships helping them and doing the finance.
In hindsight, we now know he part-ex'd his old car because he believed Peter would be doing all his running around In our car for him.
His daughters old car, a Ford Ka sat outside the house for a week and I happened to mention to him my pals were looking for a car at the low end. He said he only wanted £300 for It but after I explained my pals were really struggling because the husband had been made redundant, had two young babies and were on benefits, he said they could have the car for £200 leaving them £100 to get It through an MOT because It had run out In the last few weeks. He said the car was sound and a good little runaround.
I'm sitting there thinking ' That's good of him'.
Because I trusted him at the time ( mistake) and our pals trusted us, they bought the car for £200 as seen. This guy said at the time he couldn't find the cars registration, log book and last MOT certificate but would post It on to them.
The next day, my pals put the car In for It's MOT. It was not only a fail but an epic fail and the garage refused my pal to even drive It home because It could break up at any time and they condemned the car.
He got towed home and my mechanic went out to the house and also condemned It as a wreck. He said he'd do the work as cheaply as possible and the welding needed to hold the car together was still hundreds of pounds without all the rest of the problems. My pals didn't have any spare cash to buy another car so my mechanic said he'd take Installments.
They kept ringing this guy for the documents and he kept claiming he couldn't find them so my pals applied for new registration.
When that arrived, with It came the cars full history.
The last MOT was In 2006 !!!! He had bought It for £50 as SCRAP !!! He had put It In for an MOT In May 2012 and It was an epic fail.... he told his daughter It had passed the MOT !!!!!
When I told him of the money It had cost my pals, he was adamant he'd sold the car In good faith.
So a couple of weeks went by and we're chatting one day and he says that he expected his daughter was wondering why her Insurence had suddenly shot up.
I asked why because she'd now been driving for a year. Then he told me that when he took out her car Insurence he had put her date of birth down as 1957 so her Insurence was £400 a year and not £2,000 a year for a 17 year old.
So he put his own daughter In a wreck condemned by two mechanics In the belief the car had an MOT and valid Insurence policy.
When she got the new car, he Insisted on setting up the policy for her again so I told her what he'd done.
It gets worse.... because he paid her old car Insurence on line, she paid him cash every month for her policy... he was taking the full amount of valid Insurence from her.
During the last months of our relationship at a time when we believed and trusted him, he asked my husband If he'd take his ex wife and young daughter to help them buy a new car. He said he would part-exchange his car and he was buying It as a gift for his daughter. So Peter spent two days at dealerships helping them and doing the finance.
In hindsight, we now know he part-ex'd his old car because he believed Peter would be doing all his running around In our car for him.
His daughters old car, a Ford Ka sat outside the house for a week and I happened to mention to him my pals were looking for a car at the low end. He said he only wanted £300 for It but after I explained my pals were really struggling because the husband had been made redundant, had two young babies and were on benefits, he said they could have the car for £200 leaving them £100 to get It through an MOT because It had run out In the last few weeks. He said the car was sound and a good little runaround.
I'm sitting there thinking ' That's good of him'.
Because I trusted him at the time ( mistake) and our pals trusted us, they bought the car for £200 as seen. This guy said at the time he couldn't find the cars registration, log book and last MOT certificate but would post It on to them.
The next day, my pals put the car In for It's MOT. It was not only a fail but an epic fail and the garage refused my pal to even drive It home because It could break up at any time and they condemned the car.
He got towed home and my mechanic went out to the house and also condemned It as a wreck. He said he'd do the work as cheaply as possible and the welding needed to hold the car together was still hundreds of pounds without all the rest of the problems. My pals didn't have any spare cash to buy another car so my mechanic said he'd take Installments.
They kept ringing this guy for the documents and he kept claiming he couldn't find them so my pals applied for new registration.
When that arrived, with It came the cars full history.
The last MOT was In 2006 !!!! He had bought It for £50 as SCRAP !!! He had put It In for an MOT In May 2012 and It was an epic fail.... he told his daughter It had passed the MOT !!!!!
When I told him of the money It had cost my pals, he was adamant he'd sold the car In good faith.
So a couple of weeks went by and we're chatting one day and he says that he expected his daughter was wondering why her Insurence had suddenly shot up.
I asked why because she'd now been driving for a year. Then he told me that when he took out her car Insurence he had put her date of birth down as 1957 so her Insurence was £400 a year and not £2,000 a year for a 17 year old.
So he put his own daughter In a wreck condemned by two mechanics In the belief the car had an MOT and valid Insurence policy.
When she got the new car, he Insisted on setting up the policy for her again so I told her what he'd done.
It gets worse.... because he paid her old car Insurence on line, she paid him cash every month for her policy... he was taking the full amount of valid Insurence from her.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Oh my.. That's (to keep it clean) disgusting behaviour! Unbelievable!
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No, actually that really pisses me off.
My mum was very ill when I was in my young teens. I went to school, came home and had all the housework incl. cooking to do (my dad had to work abroad at the time). We never had a home help / carer.
My dad is now quite ill.. He can't stand any smoke or even dust, he ends up coughing blood / vomiting (terrible in the winter with people and their wood burners!) He can never work again in his field, he was a welder/plumber. 40 years work experience down the drain + he needed a shoulder OP. Plus both my parents have quite bad rheumatism. It play's up from time to time. Sometimes dads ankle swells up so bad, he can't sleep or walk.. Still "they" are making him find another job to do. Which is fine by him, he has even gone back to school to re-learn the dutch language. They don't have home help / carers in.
Their neighbour worked 1 day in her life, and was caught stealing. She has mooched, mooched and mooched off of the government ever since. She wears designer clothes, has a brand new car, a €1000,- elec bicycle etc etc. On benefits ?! We know now how she gets these things, couple of people who she "paid" told us. She did not pay in cash.....
She "has" a bit of rheumatism and has a carer in a couple of times a week.
Seems wrong somehow? Genuinely sick people get let down, pretenders get all ????
I didn't mean to "crap" on your thread Oscar, but I know how you feel. Well in your case he took it to an extreme. My faith in humanity decreases every day. Although it is nice to know people like you do still exist, people that will help out a neighbour, I applaud you for that. Shame this person abused you and Peter.
My mum was very ill when I was in my young teens. I went to school, came home and had all the housework incl. cooking to do (my dad had to work abroad at the time). We never had a home help / carer.
My dad is now quite ill.. He can't stand any smoke or even dust, he ends up coughing blood / vomiting (terrible in the winter with people and their wood burners!) He can never work again in his field, he was a welder/plumber. 40 years work experience down the drain + he needed a shoulder OP. Plus both my parents have quite bad rheumatism. It play's up from time to time. Sometimes dads ankle swells up so bad, he can't sleep or walk.. Still "they" are making him find another job to do. Which is fine by him, he has even gone back to school to re-learn the dutch language. They don't have home help / carers in.
Their neighbour worked 1 day in her life, and was caught stealing. She has mooched, mooched and mooched off of the government ever since. She wears designer clothes, has a brand new car, a €1000,- elec bicycle etc etc. On benefits ?! We know now how she gets these things, couple of people who she "paid" told us. She did not pay in cash.....
She "has" a bit of rheumatism and has a carer in a couple of times a week.
Seems wrong somehow? Genuinely sick people get let down, pretenders get all ????
I didn't mean to "crap" on your thread Oscar, but I know how you feel. Well in your case he took it to an extreme. My faith in humanity decreases every day. Although it is nice to know people like you do still exist, people that will help out a neighbour, I applaud you for that. Shame this person abused you and Peter.
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I would have thought that scum bag could be done in a court of law, Oscar, he's a bloody crook. He has no feelings for his daughter because he deliberately put her life in danger. No wonder he is being divorced. I hope the house is in both their names so they have to sell it, making him homeless, to share the money ! This sort of thing destroys your trust in people. You said that he settled out-of-court with Peter over Peter's car expenses, but that still leaves it open to take things further over the daughter's death trap car. There should be no sentiment towards this scroat - just get the ball rolling. Maybe if he's lucky he will get rent-free accomodation, a roof over his head, 3 meals every day and his laundry done, at Her Majesty's Pleasure.
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G#Gill;1443875 wrote: I would have thought that scum bag could be done in a court of law, Oscar, he's a bloody crook. He has no feelings for his daughter because he deliberately put her life in danger. No wonder he is being divorced. I hope the house is in both their names so they have to sell it, making him homeless, to share the money ! This sort of thing destroys your trust in people. You said that he settled out-of-court with Peter over Peter's car expenses, but that still leaves it open to take things further over the daughter's death trap car. There should be no sentiment towards this scroat - just get the ball rolling. Maybe if he's lucky he will get rent-free accomodation, a roof over his head, 3 meals every day and his laundry done, at Her Majesty's Pleasure.
It's even worse than that Gilly If you can believe It !!!!
Since then, we have formed a good friendship with the wife and kids and sometimes the wife comes round just to vent.
Two weeks ago she phoned In a panic asking If Peter could drive her to the police station because she'd had two glasses of wine.
Story In brief... when this guys mother died a a year ago, she bequeathed £10,000 to each of the kids. Because the girl was 17, she got her money straight away and she saved It but the young lad was only 14 at the time so she put his In a trust fund until he was 16 years old.
Both are really decent kids and the boy Is no yob. I found out from the wife also that when he was 9 years old, this guy put a knife to his throat and on another occasion knocked him out. The school at the time brought In social services and he escaped police Involvement because he agreed to take anger management courses. Obviously, the lad had this simmering Inside him.
So now the lad gets to 16 and asks his mother for some of his £10,000 for a car to start driving lessons etc and they find there Is only £3,500 left !!! The guy had parental control on the trust fund as the lad was under 16 and he's basically robbed his own son. When confronted, he just stated that he needed It.
Anyway, two Friday nights ago, the lad gets In a squabble with his sister outside their house and the lad punches the sister In the face. A neighbour called the police and he was arrested. Although the sister has stated she doesn't want police action, the CPS have charged him and he's bailed to appear before the courts.
As we all know, this Is simmering anger at his Father and he just took that anger out on the nearest to him that night.
I've since had both the kids round my house In tears over this. Apparently their whole lives have been at the mercy of this guys lies, vindictiveness and bullying control.... Little man syndrome, I call It.
The result Is his 16 year old boy up before the court and not him.
Yes he's a bloody crook.
Peter thinks we should go to the police.
It's even worse than that Gilly If you can believe It !!!!
Since then, we have formed a good friendship with the wife and kids and sometimes the wife comes round just to vent.
Two weeks ago she phoned In a panic asking If Peter could drive her to the police station because she'd had two glasses of wine.
Story In brief... when this guys mother died a a year ago, she bequeathed £10,000 to each of the kids. Because the girl was 17, she got her money straight away and she saved It but the young lad was only 14 at the time so she put his In a trust fund until he was 16 years old.
Both are really decent kids and the boy Is no yob. I found out from the wife also that when he was 9 years old, this guy put a knife to his throat and on another occasion knocked him out. The school at the time brought In social services and he escaped police Involvement because he agreed to take anger management courses. Obviously, the lad had this simmering Inside him.
So now the lad gets to 16 and asks his mother for some of his £10,000 for a car to start driving lessons etc and they find there Is only £3,500 left !!! The guy had parental control on the trust fund as the lad was under 16 and he's basically robbed his own son. When confronted, he just stated that he needed It.
Anyway, two Friday nights ago, the lad gets In a squabble with his sister outside their house and the lad punches the sister In the face. A neighbour called the police and he was arrested. Although the sister has stated she doesn't want police action, the CPS have charged him and he's bailed to appear before the courts.
As we all know, this Is simmering anger at his Father and he just took that anger out on the nearest to him that night.
I've since had both the kids round my house In tears over this. Apparently their whole lives have been at the mercy of this guys lies, vindictiveness and bullying control.... Little man syndrome, I call It.
The result Is his 16 year old boy up before the court and not him.
Yes he's a bloody crook.
Peter thinks we should go to the police.
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Chloe_88;1443868 wrote: No, actually that really pisses me off.
My mum was very ill when I was in my young teens. I went to school, came home and had all the housework incl. cooking to do (my dad had to work abroad at the time). We never had a home help / carer.
My dad is now quite ill.. He can't stand any smoke or even dust, he ends up coughing blood / vomiting (terrible in the winter with people and their wood burners!) He can never work again in his field, he was a welder/plumber. 40 years work experience down the drain + he needed a shoulder OP. Plus both my parents have quite bad rheumatism. It play's up from time to time. Sometimes dads ankle swells up so bad, he can't sleep or walk.. Still "they" are making him find another job to do. Which is fine by him, he has even gone back to school to re-learn the dutch language. They don't have home help / carers in.
Their neighbour worked 1 day in her life, and was caught stealing. She has mooched, mooched and mooched off of the government ever since. She wears designer clothes, has a brand new car, a €1000,- elec bicycle etc etc. On benefits ?! We know now how she gets these things, couple of people who she "paid" told us. She did not pay in cash.....
She "has" a bit of rheumatism and has a carer in a couple of times a week.
Seems wrong somehow? Genuinely sick people get let down, pretenders get all ????
I didn't mean to "crap" on your thread Oscar, but I know how you feel. Well in your case he took it to an extreme. My faith in humanity decreases every day. Although it is nice to know people like you do still exist, people that will help out a neighbour, I applaud you for that. Shame this person abused you and Peter.
Many people would probably say we were gullible seeing as how It went on for a year but bearing In mind this man managed to hoodwink professional nursing staff Into letting him stay In hospital night after night when all tests showed nothing wrong.
He worked as a claims Inspector for a medical Insurence company for 29 years and Is a very Intelligent man and a well rehearsed liar. He was sacked from his job for down-loading hard core porn for years... I only just found that out also !!!!
Once you start to see through someone then you can preempt their next move and remain one step ahead of them but he was very convincing.
When we meet people, we take them on face value. Something like conning a genuine terminal patient Into pandering to them, you think that's just so off the wall, that they could not possibly be lying and so It goes on. When you are In life surrounded by genuine honest people, It's hard to believe that someone would behave like that. You take honesty as the norm If that's what you have In life every day.
It hasn't destroyed my trust In human nature because I know that people In general are not like him.
His daughter told me after Anne had told him to F*** off that he's been seen filling out the forms to get a carer curtesy of the NHS. He may dupe them... he has enough medical knowledge and will certainly lie.
My mum was very ill when I was in my young teens. I went to school, came home and had all the housework incl. cooking to do (my dad had to work abroad at the time). We never had a home help / carer.
My dad is now quite ill.. He can't stand any smoke or even dust, he ends up coughing blood / vomiting (terrible in the winter with people and their wood burners!) He can never work again in his field, he was a welder/plumber. 40 years work experience down the drain + he needed a shoulder OP. Plus both my parents have quite bad rheumatism. It play's up from time to time. Sometimes dads ankle swells up so bad, he can't sleep or walk.. Still "they" are making him find another job to do. Which is fine by him, he has even gone back to school to re-learn the dutch language. They don't have home help / carers in.
Their neighbour worked 1 day in her life, and was caught stealing. She has mooched, mooched and mooched off of the government ever since. She wears designer clothes, has a brand new car, a €1000,- elec bicycle etc etc. On benefits ?! We know now how she gets these things, couple of people who she "paid" told us. She did not pay in cash.....
She "has" a bit of rheumatism and has a carer in a couple of times a week.
Seems wrong somehow? Genuinely sick people get let down, pretenders get all ????
I didn't mean to "crap" on your thread Oscar, but I know how you feel. Well in your case he took it to an extreme. My faith in humanity decreases every day. Although it is nice to know people like you do still exist, people that will help out a neighbour, I applaud you for that. Shame this person abused you and Peter.
Many people would probably say we were gullible seeing as how It went on for a year but bearing In mind this man managed to hoodwink professional nursing staff Into letting him stay In hospital night after night when all tests showed nothing wrong.
He worked as a claims Inspector for a medical Insurence company for 29 years and Is a very Intelligent man and a well rehearsed liar. He was sacked from his job for down-loading hard core porn for years... I only just found that out also !!!!
Once you start to see through someone then you can preempt their next move and remain one step ahead of them but he was very convincing.
When we meet people, we take them on face value. Something like conning a genuine terminal patient Into pandering to them, you think that's just so off the wall, that they could not possibly be lying and so It goes on. When you are In life surrounded by genuine honest people, It's hard to believe that someone would behave like that. You take honesty as the norm If that's what you have In life every day.
It hasn't destroyed my trust In human nature because I know that people In general are not like him.
His daughter told me after Anne had told him to F*** off that he's been seen filling out the forms to get a carer curtesy of the NHS. He may dupe them... he has enough medical knowledge and will certainly lie.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
I need to get this off my chest...
Frankly, I'm surprised someone hasn't killed him yet.
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I need to get this off my chest...
Snooz;1443887 wrote: Frankly, I'm surprised someone hasn't killed him yet.
After the lad was arrested, the police have arranged counselling for him. He needs It because that kind of simmering anger, I wouldn't be surprised If your words don't come true.
After the lad was arrested, the police have arranged counselling for him. He needs It because that kind of simmering anger, I wouldn't be surprised If your words don't come true.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
I need to get this off my chest...
oscar;1443882 wrote: It's even worse than that Gilly If you can believe It !!!!
Since then, we have formed a good friendship with the wife and kids and sometimes the wife comes round just to vent.
Two weeks ago she phoned In a panic asking If Peter could drive her to the police station because she'd had two glasses of wine.
Story In brief... when this guys mother died a a year ago, she bequeathed £10,000 to each of the kids. Because the girl was 17, she got her money straight away and she saved It but the young lad was only 14 at the time so she put his In a trust fund until he was 16 years old.
Both are really decent kids and the boy Is no yob. I found out from the wife also that when he was 9 years old, this guy put a knife to his throat and on another occasion knocked him out. The school at the time brought In social services and he escaped police Involvement because he agreed to take anger management courses. Obviously, the lad had this simmering Inside him.
So now the lad gets to 16 and asks his mother for some of his £10,000 for a car to start driving lessons etc and they find there Is only £3,500 left !!! The guy had parental control on the trust fund as the lad was under 16 and he's basically robbed his own son. When confronted, he just stated that he needed It.
Anyway, two Friday nights ago, the lad gets In a squabble with his sister outside their house and the lad punches the sister In the face. A neighbour called the police and he was arrested. Although the sister has stated she doesn't want police action, the CPS have charged him and he's bailed to appear before the courts.
As we all know, this Is simmering anger at his Father and he just took that anger out on the nearest to him that night.
I've since had both the kids round my house In tears over this. Apparently their whole lives have been at the mercy of this guys lies, vindictiveness and bullying control.... Little man syndrome, I call It.
The result Is his 16 year old boy up before the court and not him.
Yes he's a bloody crook.
Peter thinks we should go to the police.
I think you should.. This man is mooching of the government, he's a liar and using people's good will, putting others in danger (!), and now trying to get a carer curtesy of the NHS ????!!!
The other reason this sort of thing pisses me off is that my Nan in London cannot get a carer in. She is a diabetic with graves disease, had a TIA last year and she is now in kidney failure. She passed out several times the last few months. 1 time it was terrible, she passed out on the toilet, and cracked her face open. She woke up in a puddle of blood.
She called out to the GP because she was feeling unwell, dizzy and sick. The GP didn't think it was necessary to come and see her. and they don't feel she needs help / carers in, they feel she is well enough... what the ?????
Since then, we have formed a good friendship with the wife and kids and sometimes the wife comes round just to vent.
Two weeks ago she phoned In a panic asking If Peter could drive her to the police station because she'd had two glasses of wine.
Story In brief... when this guys mother died a a year ago, she bequeathed £10,000 to each of the kids. Because the girl was 17, she got her money straight away and she saved It but the young lad was only 14 at the time so she put his In a trust fund until he was 16 years old.
Both are really decent kids and the boy Is no yob. I found out from the wife also that when he was 9 years old, this guy put a knife to his throat and on another occasion knocked him out. The school at the time brought In social services and he escaped police Involvement because he agreed to take anger management courses. Obviously, the lad had this simmering Inside him.
So now the lad gets to 16 and asks his mother for some of his £10,000 for a car to start driving lessons etc and they find there Is only £3,500 left !!! The guy had parental control on the trust fund as the lad was under 16 and he's basically robbed his own son. When confronted, he just stated that he needed It.
Anyway, two Friday nights ago, the lad gets In a squabble with his sister outside their house and the lad punches the sister In the face. A neighbour called the police and he was arrested. Although the sister has stated she doesn't want police action, the CPS have charged him and he's bailed to appear before the courts.
As we all know, this Is simmering anger at his Father and he just took that anger out on the nearest to him that night.
I've since had both the kids round my house In tears over this. Apparently their whole lives have been at the mercy of this guys lies, vindictiveness and bullying control.... Little man syndrome, I call It.
The result Is his 16 year old boy up before the court and not him.
Yes he's a bloody crook.
Peter thinks we should go to the police.
I think you should.. This man is mooching of the government, he's a liar and using people's good will, putting others in danger (!), and now trying to get a carer curtesy of the NHS ????!!!
The other reason this sort of thing pisses me off is that my Nan in London cannot get a carer in. She is a diabetic with graves disease, had a TIA last year and she is now in kidney failure. She passed out several times the last few months. 1 time it was terrible, she passed out on the toilet, and cracked her face open. She woke up in a puddle of blood.
She called out to the GP because she was feeling unwell, dizzy and sick. The GP didn't think it was necessary to come and see her. and they don't feel she needs help / carers in, they feel she is well enough... what the ?????
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I need to get this off my chest...
Chloe_88;1443903 wrote: I think you should.. This man is mooching of the government, he's a liar and using people's good will, putting others in danger (!), and now trying to get a carer curtesy of the NHS ????!!!
The other reason this sort of thing pisses me off is that my Nan in London cannot get a carer in. She is a diabetic with graves disease, had a TIA last year and she is now in kidney failure. She passed out several times the last few months. 1 time it was terrible, she passed out on the toilet, and cracked her face open. She woke up in a puddle of blood.
She called out to the GP because she was feeling unwell, dizzy and sick. The GP didn't think it was necessary to come and see her. and they don't feel she needs help / carers in, they feel she is well enough... what the ?????
The old man I do some batch meals for In my street Is the same. He's 87 yet unable to get an NHS carer as he's still capable of washing and dressing himself.
The guy who conned us Is 57 !!!!
The other reason this sort of thing pisses me off is that my Nan in London cannot get a carer in. She is a diabetic with graves disease, had a TIA last year and she is now in kidney failure. She passed out several times the last few months. 1 time it was terrible, she passed out on the toilet, and cracked her face open. She woke up in a puddle of blood.
She called out to the GP because she was feeling unwell, dizzy and sick. The GP didn't think it was necessary to come and see her. and they don't feel she needs help / carers in, they feel she is well enough... what the ?????
The old man I do some batch meals for In my street Is the same. He's 87 yet unable to get an NHS carer as he's still capable of washing and dressing himself.
The guy who conned us Is 57 !!!!
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon