Betty Boop.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:26 pm

Oscar Namechange;1459096 wrote: Phew... I thought I was going mad...

That's what I told them.. stop Inviting the uncouth git but then that raises the question, will their daughter be offended that her new man Isn't being Invited. Life eh ?

Well, then it becomes her problem.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:03 pm

G#Gill;1459053 wrote: Not changed much then ! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I tend to blow my own horn actually, but other than that .......

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:13 pm

Oscar Namechange;1459086 wrote: I wasn't talking about FG rules... I used JJ as the example as It's the most recent.

My question was genuine as although I found the article Interesting, there seemed a slight contradiction to me. If offense Is the offendee's fault for making that choice to be offended, then does that excuse the actions of those who offended?

Think of it as a guideline, Oscar - not the formula to working out the area of a triangle.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:44 am

High Threshold;1459109 wrote: Think of it as a guideline, Oscar - not the formula to working out the area of a triangle.
Understanding how to work out the area of a triangle I can do. Understanding people - that's a whole different ball game.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:00 am

FourPart;1459122 wrote: ..... Understanding people - that's a whole different ball game.

Me too. All I know is that it has something to with sex at puberty, whether or not you loved your mother or father, and what sort pyjamas you had as a child. Christ, I can't even remember if I had any pyjamas at all. :-3

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:25 am

Well,. unless I see my clear to checking in at an Internet café, I won't be seeing you all till next week. We're off to Turkey right now!

Cheers! :yh_love

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:40 am

High Threshold;1459125 wrote: Well,. unless I see my clear to checking in at an Internet café, I won't be seeing you all till next week. We're off to Turkey right now!

Cheers! :yh_love

:-6:-6:-6 Have a good break HT and watch out for over exposure in the sun :yh_rotfl

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:57 am

Oscar Namechange;1459090 wrote: Let's move away from the JJ stuff and deal with the link.

So what you Interpret from the link Is that sometimes It's not the sole choice of the person offended as to It being the choice to be offended but the Intention of of the offender to deliberately offend? If that Is true then with deliberate offence, the person offended does not have a choice after all. If one deliberately offends then Is the offended, offended by the deliberate act of causing offence and not what was done ie the act to cause offence?

I get your point completely because tonight we had some peeps round for dinner and their daughter has just married some geezer they haven't taken lightly to. I agree with them, I think he's a knob but anyway.....In point with your post, similar was discussed. The new son In Law has a habit of Pharting out loud In front of everyone and anyone. They find It uncouth. The MIL said tonight she didn't care less If he pharted down the pub with his pals but not at her dinner table while eating. Yet the question remains... does he phart at her dinner table just to annoy her or Is she choosing to be offended. I think we know the answer to that which makes the link contradictive when he says It's the offended's choice to be offended.

:-2 You're probably right ! Now what was the question again ? :yh_rotfl

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:21 am

IMO if somebody is at the meal table and feels he/she is about to break wind, then he/she should excuse themselves and go out of the room to break wind. This is politeness, after all breaking wind is a natural bodily function and one which we have little control over. If somebody breaks wind whilst at the meal table, then IMO they are plain rude and thoughtless, whilst people are eating. If that person breaks wind deliberately to cause offence, then that person is disgusting and should not be invited again, and it is their problem to sort out if they wish to be invited again.

Not quite sure what this has to do with Betty Boop !

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:23 am

Oscar Namechange;1459059 wrote: Finally had time to sit down and read the link.

I can't actually thank you enough for this because I can use It for something else In real life In another arena.

But I have a question... As an example... JJ's vulgarity was offensive to some. So If being offended Is a choice... Is that now his fault they are offended or theirs because they made the choice to be offended ?

Simple, his because he broke the ToS and therefore his contract with the Garden :-

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Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:29 am

AnneBoleyn;1459062 wrote: Oscar: "But I have a question... As an example... JJ's vulgarity was offensive to some. So If being offended Is a choice... Is that now his fault they are offended or theirs because they made the choice to be offended ?"

Excellent question IMO.

eta--deserves an excellent answer, I'm not sure I have one at this moment. In this instance only, however, my first thought is that we all know JJ very well; well enough to know he is a big tease but not an outright offender on purpose, IMO & if offended here should have just let it drop & speak to him privately, not to outright ban him.

I may be accused of bias, however, I really like JJ & sometimes we all blow our tops (ahem, I ought to know!)

Firstly, he was not given an outright ban, just a temporary cooling off period - he has been spoken to privately enough times that we know it does no good, secondly, the offence was entirely deliberate and thirdly, he had already made public his decision to leave the board (again) and this, as is his habit, was his way of going out with a bang.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:50 am

High Threshold;1459125 wrote: Well,. unless I see my clear to checking in at an Internet café, I won't be seeing you all till next week. We're off to Turkey right now!

Cheers! :yh_love Make sure you come back with pics. What part of Turkey are you going to for I know It well...

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:21 pm

G#Gill;1459128 wrote: :-6:-6:-6 ... watch out for over exposure in the sun :yh_rotfl

If I'd have waited just a few more hours and read your warning ......... but alas! We also did a bit of uncommonly frequent over-exposure behind closed doors as well. Something to do with the warmth in the air I guess. Particularly after showering.

Oscar Namechange;1459142 wrote: Make sure you come back with pics. What part of Turkey are you going to for I know It well...

What's your favourite part? I've travelled through Turkey several times on overland journeys through to Bulgaria, Greece, Iran and Syria and have visited just about the whole country except for the Black Sea strip. I love it and the people, both Turk and Kurd. We were in Alanya for the second time. Even in such a tourist centre the people are friendly without being false. I'm generally a mean buggar but Turkey has me dipping into my pockets for a tip in most situations. The only pics I snapped were of my family so they're probably not the best forum material.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:37 am

Oscar Namechange;1459142 wrote: Make sure you come back with pics.

Me and the wife at Willie's Kneipe (in Alanya) - Our son - Kleopatra Beach > I improved the resolution of this last, pale photo but then it refused to upload.

Attached files

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:59 am

Three beautiful people.

Post by **Peter Lake** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:17 am

High Threshold;1459769 wrote: Me and the wife at Willie's Kneipe (in Alanya) - Our son - Kleopatra Beach > I improved the resolution of this last, pale photo but then it refused to upload. You know if Oscar see's that Turkish beach, she'll want to go back to Turkey? Lovely looking family you have there.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:26 am

No one's asked me but that never stopped me from giving an opinion...

I remember not too long ago when several of us were complaining about JJ's incessant posts littering the front page and pushing everything else out of the way. Granted, there were some good ones but he'd start a thread for each new photo of an old time Hollywood actress he admired rather than continuing in one. We called it spamming and it was exactly that. His self-promotional, over-sexualized and "flirtatious" persona grates on my nerves more times than not and a little goes a long way. I can completely understand why BB tried to ignore this thread, the OP is nausea inducing.

I've learned to stay away from his threads and to avoid him in general but this thread is over the top. I've only been back for a short time and I'm already annoyed with this place again. The pearl clutching and histrionics that poor JJ is being abused when what I see is a person that causes more sh(t on here than Oscar and I combined stirring up more forum drama for his own amusement and ego stroking.

Time for another break, me thinks.

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:35 am

Snooz;1459778 wrote: Time for another break, me thinks.

We are, as ever, grateful for your insight, and look forward to your next visit. You brighten whatever topic you engage in.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:44 am

AnneBoleyn;1459770 wrote: Three beautiful people.

Peter Lake;1459773 wrote: Lovely looking family you have there.

:yh_love ------------- :yh_love ------------- :yh_love

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:55 am

Peter Lake;1459773 wrote: You know if Oscar see's that Turkish beach, she'll want to go back to Turkey?

And you? Are you also mad about the place?

Beautiful country - Hospitable people!

Snooz;1459778 wrote: I remember not too long ago when several of us were complaining about .... incessant posts littering the front page and pushing everything else out of the way. .... We called it spamming and it was exactly that.

Am I going to get a bollocking now for littering this thread with photos of Turkey? :-3

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:11 am

High Threshold;1459781 wrote:

Am I going to get a bollocking now for littering this thread with photos of Turkey? :-3

Doubt it.

In fact you and your family bring a much needed lift to the proceedings.........thanks for sharing.

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:11 am

High Threshold;1459781 wrote: Am I going to get a bollocking now for littering this thread with photos of Turkey? :-3
Not in the slightest. Nothing you've posted since starting here has been a problem.

G#Gill · Post by **G#Gill** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:39 am

High Threshold;1459769 wrote: Me and the wife at Willie's Kneipe (in Alanya) - Our son - Kleopatra Beach > I improved the resolution of this last, pale photo but then it refused to upload.

What a good-looking family. I can certainly tell who the parents are ! What an attractive wife you have HT and I'm sure she must be well looked after

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:41 am

Týr;1459785 wrote: Not in the slightest. Nothing you've posted since starting here has been a problem.

Bruv;1459784 wrote: Doubt it.

In fact you and your family bring a much needed lift to the proceedings.........thanks for sharing.

That's a relief! You know, I've been dying to share photos of my grandfather when he got his dentures ....... and pics of my first pair of shoes! What do ya' guys think? Shall I post them here or start a whole new thread? :yh_cow

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:43 am

G#Gill;1459791 wrote: What a good-looking family. I can certainly tell who the parents are ! What an attractive wife you have HT and I'm sure she must be well looked after

You're too kind, Gill. :yh_love

Post by **LarsMac** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:16 am

High Threshold;1459792 wrote: That's a relief! You know, I've been dying to share photos of my grandfather when he got his dentures ....... and pics of my first pair of shoes! What do ya' guys think? Shall I post them here or start a whole new thread? :yh_cow

Probably a new thread would be appropriate.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:27 am

:wah::wah::wah:

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:47 pm

Snooz;1459778 wrote: I remember... complaining about JJ's incessant posts littering the front page ... His self-promotional, over-sexualized ... persona grates on my nerves more times than not and .... I've learned to stay away from his threads and to avoid him in general ... what I see is a person that causes more sh(t ... stirring up more forum drama for his own amusement and ego stroking.

This is a particularly thorny problem because, as I doubt that anyone appreciates conceit in anyone's character, it is doubly distasteful (in this case) knowing that we are his superior in every way imaginable.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:56 am

High Threshold;1459839 wrote: This is a particularly thorny problem because, as I doubt that anyone appreciates conceit in anyone's character, it is doubly distasteful (in this case) knowing that we are his superior in every way imaginable.

Who is WE? & what makes you think WE are superior? I'm disgusted by your words here HT. Who else are WE superior to?

eta---I'm thinking about what you wrote. I'm thinking of the smiley face at the end. I'm thinking of what I think I know about you. I'm hoping you were just being sarcastic. I'm hoping my reply to you is wrong. I'm hoping........

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:59 am

As for you Snooze, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or maybe it should.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:28 am

I think this thread has run its course.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:45 am

LarsMac;1459854 wrote: I think this thread has run its course.

I'm sure it has, but I don't want you to LOCK it. Besides, I am quite anxious to know what HT has to say. If he'd rather PM me, that's fine too. I want to be wrong. Desperately, even though that sounds extreme.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:50 am

LarsMac;1459854 wrote: I think this thread has run its course.

Draw the curtain............finale please

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:56 am

AnneBoleyn;1459855 wrote: I'm sure it has, but I don't want you to LOCK it. Besides, I am quite anxious to know what HT has to say. If he'd rather PM me, that's fine too. I want to be wrong. Desperately, even though that sounds extreme.

I am certain he was being sarcastic.

But then again, with Swedes and Danes, it is really hard to tell.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:36 am

AnneBoleyn;1459852 wrote: Who is WE? & what makes you think WE are superior? I'm disgusted by your words here HT. Who else are WE superior to?

eta---I'm thinking about what you wrote. I'm thinking of the smiley face at the end. I'm thinking of what I think I know about you. I'm hoping you were just being sarcastic. I'm hoping my reply to you is wrong. I'm hoping........

"Hoping" is a good start.

What you need to do now is to take a few deep breaths and ask yourself what would be required of me to have meant by my post in order for "your reply to be wrong". Once you've accomplished that then you only need to see if it might apply to "what you think you know about me". You know, if the shoe fits me, and all of that. So tell me, using my exact words from that post can you find some way to see me as you would like to? Here's a hint: conceit + superiority. Put them together and what do you get

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:38 am

LarsMac;1459857 wrote: ... with Swedes and Danes, it is really hard to tell.

:wah:

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:39 am

Here's a hint: conceit + superiority. Put them together and what do you get

Not you.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:42 am

Here's a hint: conceit + superiority. Put them together and what do you get?

= Every politician ever.

Thats what I get anyways.

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:48 am

AnneBoleyn;1459853 wrote: As for you Snooze, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or maybe it should.

Snooze is a friend of the site from its very early days, I'd be upset to see her pushed out. Or even around.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:52 am

Týr;1459878 wrote: Snooze is a friend of the site from its very early days, I'd be upset to see her pushed out. Or even around.

I would, as well.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:04 am

Týr;1459878 wrote: Snooze is a friend of the site from its very early days, I'd be upset to see her pushed out. Or even around.

Who is pushing her out? I like her too. She seems to be pushing herself out. I have an acquaintance on another forum. I like her very much, but she always threatens to leave, disappears for awhile, comes back, threatens again. What's with all the drama & trauma? Leave, stay, why the big production? Why blame one person, in this case JJ, as the reason to leave? I pictured her (Snooze) slamming the door after leaving, so I said that. Sorry you're upset.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:09 am

Týr;1459779 wrote: We are, as ever, grateful for your insight, and look forward to your next visit. You brighten whatever topic you engage in.

That's as sarcastic as HT was being. Are you bored today?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:32 am

For the record, Snooze Is not being pushed out nor slamming any doors on her way out.

She and I talk most days and she Is Is the most UN drama queen I know. She's just been busy with other things. Why does there has to be an underlying reason for her absence? She happens to have a life and a busy one at that.

I miss her here but am fortunate to have her as a friend and still enjoy her humour elsewhere. She'll be back when she's ready and IF she wants to.

High Threshold · Post by **High Threshold** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:35 am

Oscar Namechange;1459884 wrote: She happens to have a life ....

Ah! The luck of the Irish!

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:38 am

Oscar Namechange;1459884 wrote: For the record, Snooze Is not being pushed out nor slamming any doors on her way out.

She and I talk most days and she Is Is the most UN drama queen I know. She's just been busy with other things. Why does there has to be an underlying reason for her absence? She happens to have a life and a busy one at that.

I miss her here but am fortunate to have her as a friend and still enjoy her humour elsewhere. She'll be back when she's ready and IF she wants to.

When I saw Snooze back, I was very glad. I miss her humor, her bluntness, her boldness. I enjoy her, I really do & was disappointed at that post. I guess she mixed in my mind with the other person I mentioned. I hope Snooze returns.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:44 pm

I miss Snoozes bluntness and humour too but she had very good reason to say what she did. I'm fine if people are fine with jj but you have to know that plenty aint !!

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:48 pm

LarsMac;1459854 wrote: I think this thread has run its course.

Run it's course? I think it's run every course.

YZGI · Post by **YZGI** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:49 pm

I take that back, Butter has yet to be mentioned.

Týr · Post by **Týr** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:01 pm

AnneBoleyn;1459881 wrote: Who is pushing her out? I like her too. She seems to be pushing herself out. I have an acquaintance on another forum. I like her very much, but she always threatens to leave, disappears for awhile, comes back, threatens again. What's with all the drama & trauma?
With the exception of the gender - doubtless to JJ's eternal regret - you appear to be describing JJ's antics on this site down to the last twitch.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:34 pm

I am reluctant to join in this thread.........again.......what with all the comings and goings, histrionics and personalities involved, but must admit to being jealous of Snooz's comments, wish I was as incisive.