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This was sent to me in an email today, and I have to agree that over the years we have become rather pathetic IMO. Well at least in the UK !



HOWIE: SCHOOL - 1950s v 2014

(OR :- HOW STUPID WE HAVE BECOME !)

SCHOOL - 1950s v 2014

Scenario:

Johnny and Mark get into a fight after school.

1950s - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end

up best friends.

2014 - Police called, and they arrest Johnny and Mark & charge them

with assault.

Both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programmes for 3 months.

School governors hold meeting to implement bullying prevention programmes.

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Scenario :

Robbie won't keep still in class, disrupts other students.

1950s - Robbie sent to the office and given six of the best by the Principal.

Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2014 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested

for ADHD – result deemed to be positive. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and school gets extra funding from government because Robbie has a disability.

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Scenario :

Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a

whipping with his belt.

1950s - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2014 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care; joins a gang; ends up in jail.

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Scenario :

Mark gets a headache and takes some Aspirin to school.

1950s - Mark gets glass of water from Principal to take aspirin with, passes exams & becomes a solicitor.

2014 - Police called, car searched for drugs and weapons. Mark expelled from school for drug taking. Ends up as a drop out.

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Scenario :

Johnny takes apart leftover fireworks from Guy Fawkes night, puts them in a paint tin & blows up a wasp's nest.

1950s - Wasps die, or Johnny gets quite badly stung !

2014- Police & Anti-Terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated.

Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly in an aeroplane again.

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Scenario :

Johnny falls over while playing football during morning break and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. She hugs him to comfort him.

1950s - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing

football. No damage done.

2014 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy and ends up a confused mess.

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Sadly, how true.
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Surely a very sarcastic take on life !

Not every fight leads to the police being called.

In the second one the lad wouldn't be given Ritalin until actually diagnosed with something.

It's more likely the lad would be expected to pay his father back for the damage he had caused after having had a discussion and being grounded for some time.

Then the scenarios just get stupid, whilst there may have been isolated incidents of similar things happening reported in the media, none of them or the outcomes are the 'norm'.
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I agree. I work at a school. It's not like any of those exaggerated and outright untrue "examples." As a matter of fact it's a bit insulting that you'd publish these myths and perpetuate them.

I tell you this, too, when I began teaching we still used corporal punishment which you seem to think is a good idea. It never once worked. It made good kids bad and bad kids worse. We don't do that anymore.
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G#Gill;1459329 wrote: This was sent to me in an email today, and I have to agree that over the years we have become rather pathetic IMO. Well at least in the UK !



HOWIE: SCHOOL - 1950s v 2014

(OR :- HOW STUPID WE HAVE BECOME !)

SCHOOL - 1950s v 2014

Scenario:

Johnny and Mark get into a fight after school.

1950s - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end

up best friends.

2014 - Police called, and they arrest Johnny and Mark & charge them

with assault.

Both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programmes for 3 months.

School governors hold meeting to implement bullying prevention programmes.

--------------------------

Scenario :

Robbie won't keep still in class, disrupts other students.

1950s - Robbie sent to the office and given six of the best by the Principal.

Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2014 - Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested

for ADHD – result deemed to be positive. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and school gets extra funding from government because Robbie has a disability.

--------------------------

Scenario :

Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a

whipping with his belt.

1950s - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2014 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care; joins a gang; ends up in jail.

--------------------------

Scenario :

Mark gets a headache and takes some Aspirin to school.

1950s - Mark gets glass of water from Principal to take aspirin with, passes exams & becomes a solicitor.

2014 - Police called, car searched for drugs and weapons. Mark expelled from school for drug taking. Ends up as a drop out.

--------------------------

Scenario :

Johnny takes apart leftover fireworks from Guy Fawkes night, puts them in a paint tin & blows up a wasp's nest.

1950s - Wasps die, or Johnny gets quite badly stung !

2014- Police & Anti-Terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated.

Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly in an aeroplane again.

--------------------------

Scenario :

Johnny falls over while playing football during morning break and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. She hugs him to comfort him.

1950s - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing

football. No damage done.

2014 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy and ends up a confused mess.

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Who ever wrote this needs to educated themselves.

Scenario one.... Police may be called but charges would not be brought unless they were over 17 years old and one Insisted he wanted the other charged which would be the loser because he could claim self defence. Under 17 years old, the parent would have to be brought In and Interviewed also by police as to weather charges were laid.

It's highly likely, the police would see It for what It Is, a scrap In school, give them a bollicking and send them on their way.

If It was the first time either child got In to a scrap, there Is no way they would be expelled.

Neither could be forced Into anger management classes against their will. The only time anyone can be forced Into anger management classes, Is If It's part of bail conditions, a proviso In sentencing In court or voluntary.

Scenario two.... Robbie would not be sedated with Ritalin for disrupting class. There would Initially be extensive talks with parents to find out If Robbie had suffered a bereavement lately, upset at home etc. After that, his parents would have to wait sometimes months for extensive tests to be carried out. MOST children diagnosed with ADHD do NOT receive any disability allowance at all.

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Should any child turn Into a Zombie taking Ritalin, schools would pick up on It Immediately and talk to parents about reducing dosage or finding alternative drugs. Any child on Ritalin Is monitored throughout.

Scenario 3... Billy reaches 15 years old and Is now big enough and beats the shyte out of his Father for physically attacking him throughout childhood.

Billy does not become successful business man but grows up loathing authoritive figures, drops out and shoots a Cop during a raid on an alcohol store to fund his alcoholism due to being beaten as a child.

Scenario 4.... Mark would not be expelled for taking Aspirin nor would cops be called. If headaches were regular, most likely the Head teacher would consult parents and the school nurse.

Scenario 5... ridiculous.... Unless there was enough evidence that the child was already on a terrorist watch list, the police would just give him a bollicking.

Terrorist suspects In any country may be stopped flying but their familes can not be stopped unless they were on a watch list themselves. Highly unlikely.

Scenario 6... No-one especially a child has to go through 5 years of therapy because a teacher comforted them. Ridiculous.

The teacher may be spoken to about Inappropriate behaviour depending on the school's rules and guidelines. She would not lose her job. She may be warned about the perils of hugging a child but to suggest she would be on a sex register Is fantasy.
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Crumbs, take note of a possible once in a lifetime moment... I agree with Oscar :-2:yh_rotfl

That really is an appalling joke email, how anyone could take it as truth is beyond me.
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Well, I thought it was merely meant to be seen as a light hearted and humorous view
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theia;1459382 wrote: Well, I thought it was merely meant to be seen as a light hearted and humorous view


I think that is maybe how it is meant to present yes.

It's a bit like the Britain First stuff that's been all over face book, people are sharing the jokey bits they see thinking it is just funny stuff without realising they are actually sharing humour spread by people that used to be in the BNP, and the jokes are actually carrying some bigoted undertones.

This feels the same, can't explain it very well, but there is an edge to it all that's not quite right. Its an odd sarcasm that is trying to imply there is an actual truth behind it.
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theia;1459382 wrote: Well, I thought it was merely meant to be seen as a light hearted and humorous view


Thank you Theia, yes it is meant to be an exaggerated and light hearted humorous view. Some folk lost their sense of humour though - I'll not bother again. I can see why Jj gets a bit fed up.
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Humorous or not, it does raise some valid points about things that were perfectly normal in our time have suddenly become totally unacceptable. Such as burglars tripping over a stair carpet & suing the house owner under H&S in the workplace (an actual case), and kid's swings being knocked up by hanging a rope from a tree, where if / when the local authorities learn of it they are obliged to cut the rope down & possibly even remove the branch it was tied to in order to avoid a repetition.

P.C. matters like having to refer to a 'blackboard' as a 'chalkboard'.

Problems with hanging the Union Flag at / over Public Buildings, for fear of it appearing Racist.

These, and many more, are just a few of the "P.C. / H&S Gone Mad" incidents that we're becoming increasingly aware of.
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Betty Boop;1459383 wrote: I think that is maybe how it is meant to present yes.

It's a bit like the Britain First stuff that's been all over face book, people are sharing the jokey bits they see thinking it is just funny stuff without realising they are actually sharing humour spread by people that used to be in the BNP, and the jokes are actually carrying some bigoted undertones.

This feels the same, can't explain it very well, but there is an edge to it all that's not quite right. Its an odd sarcasm that is trying to imply there is an actual truth behind it.


I think there is some truth behind it but it's so overly exaggerated that, for me, it's amusing.

You've actually made me wonder what humour actually is. And I'm struggling...does it usually involve making fun of self or others? And, does it often mask underlying attitudes? Is it, possibly, a way of coping with uncomfortable feelings? Maybe it's so subjective that we don't really know why we find something amusing, or not?
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Just to set the record straight here...any political org can create a Facebook page but even then, they don't have to have created It themselves. It can be created as anyone who supports them simply by pinching their logo's.

Then, any moron can get accepted onto that Facebook group... In fact sometimes, there are more than one created by different people.

Then. those Idiots are free to post what they like and give the Impression It has come from the founders of the Org themselves and that Is rare. More often than not, people who post the rubbish as In the OP get flagged up pretty quick and blocked for giving the genuine Org a bad name. It's even common practice of Searchlight, Hope Not Hata and the UAF to join these Facebook groups to wind people up and write Incendary posts to give the Org a bad press.

I know the two founders of Britain First well. For one, one of them, Jim Dowsen by virtue of his bail conditions Is unable to write anything. Not a blog, not a post, nothing.

The other Paul Golding Is also under conditions relating to his alleged harassment of Anjem Choudrey.

Neither of these two founders would ever write a post as In the OP... They don't have the time for one and two, believe It or not are pretty professional when It comes to serious campaigns. They don't sit on Facebook with nothing better to do unless It's to do with a genuine campaign.

I would advise anyone getting those posts on the news feed to always look for, so and so shared, Jim Dowsen, Paul Golding, Nick Griffin, Andrew Brons,Simon Darby etc etc etc post.. If that Is not there, then It didn't come from Key figures, It came from some Idiot who merely joined the group. Unfortunately, leaders of such Orgs can't track thousands of people on Facebook until they get flagged up.

Aldo for the record, Jim Dowsen and Paul Golding are ex BNP as thousands of people were and as many UKIP members now are. There are many reasons why the two left the BNP, which I'm not divulging here but one reason was because of Inane behaviour such as the opening OP...

When ever you get E Mails like this or see posts on facebook. 99% are designed to wind people up. When leaders write a genuine post, It's usually related to some such cause and not this kind of thing.

Some may see It as humouous but It's this exact kind of behaviour that gives political parties and Orgs the bad press they get.

I don't think It's funny In the slightest... It makes a mockery of schools and police who are loathed to arrest youngsters and will only do so as an absolute last resort to avoid ruining career prospects.
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Sorry, but I have no idea what my OP has got to do with Facebook or any other damn book. When I got this email, I laughed, because I thought it was funny - it was so exaggerated in it's contents that it is difficult to believe that anybody could treat it seriously. For pities sake, you are a humourless lot. When I read Oscar's reply post, I truly thought that she was adding to the tongue-in-cheek OP. I have just read her post about Facebook and political shenanigans and I cannot believe that she is actually serious ! I really despair. I think I'll just go in the arcade.
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G#Gill;1459385 wrote: I can see why Jj gets a bit fed up.


(Hope your not going to get all potty mouthed on us.)

Humour is in the eye of the beholder.......or something like that.

It is funny, but I don't think the writer meant it as comedy material.

Is the comedy in the exaggeration, or the closeness to actual events, or in the reaction of the reader ?
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Bruv;1459407 wrote: (Hope your not going to get all potty mouthed on us.)

Humour is in the eye of the beholder.......or something like that.

It is funny, but I don't think the writer meant it as comedy material.

Is the comedy in the exaggeration, or the closeness to actual events, or in the reaction of the reader ? Judging by the number of these that get mailed and pasted, it was done with serious intent if the content of similar and the sheer volume is anything to go by.

It's only funny to those who have the intelligence to see the inaccuracy of the content but there are people who will believe the content such as police arresting children for having a playground fight and it's propaganda of the worst kind.
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Oscar Namechange;1459397 wrote: .

I know the two founders of Britain First well. Good, then tell Jim to come and collect his campaign literature from our storage room or i'll start charging him rental.
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Bruv;1459407 wrote: (Hope your not going to get all potty mouthed on us.)

Humour is in the eye of the beholder.......or something like that.

It is funny, but I don't think the writer meant it as comedy material.

Is the comedy in the exaggeration, or the closeness to actual events, or in the reaction of the reader ?


All three probably, Bruv, though what do I know? I liked the ITCrowd but not Monty Python.
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Peter Lake;1459414 wrote: Good, then tell Jim to come and collect his campaign literature from our storage room or i'll start charging him rental.


Rental ? You'll be lucky... he's Scottish. :sneaky: :yh_rotfl
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