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Oscar Namechange;1464076 wrote: Click on pics to enlarge
I love the way their eyes light up - light something from a low budget Horror Movie.
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FourPart;1464089 wrote: I love the way their eyes light up - light something from a low budget Horror Movie.


It's really difficult for me to get decent pics of them.

There Is no street lighting at all In my lane and the Council have turned off street lighting In the road at the back. It's absolutely pitch black out there.

I only know there Is a Fox around me when I point the camera and see the red dots. That's how their eyes shine In the dark, red, It's the retina's.

Then I have to point the camera at the red dots and hope for the best.

The one curled up by the graden gate sits there every night, so calmly waiting to be fed.

We have 16 at the moment but any time now the Alpha's will oust this years cubs and Rutting will begin In November ready for the next cubs. This years will go off once ousted and form new territories or take over new ones.

I spent a great deal of my life fighting to have Fox Hunting banned. I was also a hunt sabateur years ago....They are my passion... I'll die fighting for their rights.
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Got lucky two nights ago... This one was right by my feet.

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You've got some cute friends there oscar :-)
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I agree with you about foxes. They are part of our Native Wildlife. In fact, they have more right to be here than we have. They were here long before humans infested the country.

I have always been vehemently opposed to hunting - as am I about any Blood Sports. Having hoards up Upper Class oiks tarted up in Fancy Dress, charging around the country after one terrified fox, wrecking the countryside as they go is NOT an effective way of pest control, as they claim. It's inefficient & unnecessarily cruel. When I lived in Lancashire I knew a chicken farmer who, surprisingly was also opposed to hunting. He reckoned the hunters caused far more distress to his chickens than the foxes ever did. Also, as a chicken farmer he always had a few dead birds knocking about, so he would leave them out for the foxes, which stopped them from bothering to try & enter the coops.
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FourPart;1464098 wrote: I agree with you about foxes. They are part of our Native Wildlife. In fact, they have more right to be here than we have. They were here long before humans infested the country.

I have always been vehemently opposed to hunting - as am I about any Blood Sports. Having hoards up Upper Class oiks tarted up in Fancy Dress, charging around the country after one terrified fox, wrecking the countryside as they go is NOT an effective way of pest control, as they claim. It's inefficient & unnecessarily cruel. When I lived in Lancashire I knew a chicken farmer who, surprisingly was also opposed to hunting. He reckoned the hunters caused far more distress to his chickens than the foxes ever did. Also, as a chicken farmer he always had a few dead birds knocking about, so he would leave them out for the foxes, which stopped them from bothering to try & enter the coops.


I've done extensive research on Vulpes Vulpes and worked with them... these are the facts.

1) The most persecuted and Inaccurately described species we have.

2 ) People think feeding them encourages the numbers.... not true.... The average lifespan of Urban and Red Fox Is just two years and that's providing they don't get poisoned, shot or hit by cars.

The social make up of the Fox Family Is an Alpha Dog, an Alpha Vixen, a subordinate Dog and a Subordinate Vixen. Vixens have to be a certain weight or they can not reproduce so skinny, underfed vixens do not produce cubs. Both the Subordinate vixen and alpha vixen will produce no more than 4 cubs each. If the Alpha Vixen Is killed, the Subordinate will continue feeding her young.

They are all fiercely territorial and the Alpha's oust cubs when they are approx 6 to 9 months old. Thus, the family will always return to the original four.

When an Alpha dies of old age, the subordinate takes over and very often an ousted cub will return to become the subordinate.

Given the short life span, ousted cubs take over old territories or create new one's.

However, the reason I have 16 at the moment Is because 2 years ago, the newly ousted cubs cheated and just moved a few yards up the lane to start a new family behind my bins. They have now had cubs of their own.

3 ) Fox Hunting helps the farmer.... no It doesn't. As soon as a Fox Is hunted and killed, a newly ousted cub will move In and take the territory, thus never ridding the land of Fox.

4) Foxes kill cats... no they don't... as I write this, my kitten Is out there playing with them. In Oxford 5 years ago, the RSPCA carried out the largest survey ever when residents complained Foxes were killing cats. The collected and studied over 10,000 Fox feaces and only 8 of those were contaminated with Cat. That Is not to say, Foxes killed 8 cats.... they eat carrion and It's most likely those 8 cats were already dead from being hit by cars.

5 ) Foxes kill for fun... No they don't.... The staple diet of Fox Is not chicken. It's earth worms and grubs. 2nd It's small rodents, even stricken birds and carrion. A Fox does not eat one big meal a day. Just as It's Inbuilt In a squirrel to hoard nuts, Foxes cache food for hard times. When they get Into a chicken house, It's usually In winter when the ground Is too hard to dig and rodents are few. They will kill every chicken because they are programmed to cache and their Intention Is to return back and forth their Earth to collect every single bird. Most times they get disturbed and abandon their cache.

6 ) Foxes are getting bolder... Yeah... next time you see one In the street, try picking him up.

7) Foxes spread diseases.... The only disease a Fox can spread Is sarcoptic Mange to a dog... however, no Fox would allow a dog to get that close to pass the parasite onto him.
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AnneBoleyn;1464097 wrote: You've got some cute friends there oscar :-) I am actually honoured Anne.... They allow me very close but If my husband came out with at night to feed them, they would bolt.
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We have a fox in our neighborhood. Every now and again, I have seen it, but it is very stealthy. He can seem to tell when I have spotted him. He freezes, and waits for me to look away, and when I do, he vanishes. I keep telling the wife not to let Pitstop out alone in the morning. A fat little Chihuahua would make a fine meal, I think. But then he seems to do pretty well for himself and I don't think he is hungry in the morning, and I don't think Foxes are the type to take prey and cache it for later. So Pitstop may be safe. But, still, I'd rather not tempt him too often.
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LarsMac;1464107 wrote: We have a fox in our neighborhood. Every now and again, I have seen it, but it is very stealthy. He can seem to tell when I have spotted him. He freezes, and waits for me to look away, and when I do, he vanishes. I keep telling the wife not to let Pitstop out alone in the morning. A fat little Chihuahua would make a fine meal, I think. But then he seems to do pretty well for himself and I don't think he is hungry in the morning, and I don't think Foxes are the type to take prey and cache it for later. So Pitstop may be safe. But, still, I'd rather not tempt him too often.


The RSPB: Ask an expert: Overnight a bird has been buried in a large flowerpot. What would do this?

Foxes are known for their caching behaviour - if there is more prey available than they need there and then, they may kill some extra and store this for the future to tie them over hard times
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Oscar Namechange;1464108 wrote: The RSPB: Ask an expert: Overnight a bird has been buried in a large flowerpot. What would do this?

Foxes are known for their caching behaviour - if there is more prey available than they need there and then, they may kill some extra and store this for the future to tie them over hard times


Oops! Well, then, I will pass that on to the Wife. Pitstop would NOT like being breakfast. Or dinner, for that matter.
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On the whole, though, foxes are scavengers more than hunters. It makes more sense to eat something that's already there rather than expunge all that energy trying to catch it. This why my farmer friend would feed them. So long as they were kept satisfied with an easy meal, they had no need to gather up a larder for harder times.

If you think about it, the same caching behaviour is also innate in the domestic dog, as seen when they bury their bones.

Incidentally, as a pedantic point, it's only the Red Squirrels that hoard nuts to see them through for when they come out of hibernation. This is one of the reasons the Greys have all but wiped the Reds out, because they don't hibernate at all & therefore tend to dig up the Red's stocks, leaving them to starve when they wake up.
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LarsMac;1464109 wrote: Oops! Well, then, I will pass that on to the Wife. Pitstop would NOT like being breakfast. Or dinner, for that matter.


Trust me Lars, I know more about Fox behaviour than a Fox :wah:

Yes, they do cache.... Observing my own generations of Fox Family.

Twice a week, our Turkish pals who butcher their own chickens In the take-away deliver us approx 9 kilo's of chicken waste and anything else that will get thrown at the end of night, cooked chicken, kebab meat, burgers etc.

I also give them eggs... for them, that's the jewel In the crown but to preserve their wild Instincts, I limit them to just two eggs per family so there's a bit of competition there always. One particular vixen Is very crafty and she sits back while the others dive Into the chicken waste, and grabs an egg. She then does the same thing every night, bolts off to her Earth In the school grounds and returns for the chicken.

When cubs are very young, the Alpha's will let the cubs eat first but as they get older, the pecking order comes Into play. The Subordinates and cubs have to sit back while the Alpha's get first pick, then the subordinates and then they'll let the cubs eat. If a cheeky cub over steps the mark, there's a telling off from dad.

When the Vixens are pregnant, the ' gathering ' starts In earnest. They'll cram as much Into their mouths as possible and run back to the Earths and keep returning until It's all gone.

My elderly neighbour dug his potato plot up one day and dug up sausages and eggs they had buried In there.

The only time a Fox Is dangerous Is winter. If the ground Is too hard to dig for worms and grubs and rodents are In short supply. Since the advent of wheelie bins In this country, they find It near Impossible to get Into household bins. However, the RSPCA also did another survey where they put camera's Into streets and filmed during the night. The real culprits ripping open bin bags turned out to be cats.

We have neighbours with pet rabbits In the garden, and they have never been bothered by the Foxes. Ours know they will get a good meal every night and enough to cache especially In winter but a desperate Fox, especially with young to feed could cast a loving eye on a very small dog.
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Beautiful animal the fox. Too bad they give off such an odeur.
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High Threshold;1464141 wrote: Beautiful animal the fox. Too bad they give off such an odeur.


No they don't :wah: Have you ever got close enough to sniff one?

However, Fox poo does stink.

My dogs roll In It.

It all goes back to the time all domesticated dogs evolved from Wolves who do give off quite a stink. So Wolves would roll In all sorts to disguise their smell when creeping up on prey. Most domestic dogs still do this given half a chance,
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Your talking about only giving them 2 eggs reminded me of when my kid brother kept ferrets. Whenever he fed them he would like to really tease them by giving the 2 of them 3 day old chicks. This meant that each one of them would run off to opposite ends of the pen with a chick in its mouth, but each one of them wanted the remaining one, but each one also knew that in order to get it they'd have to drop the one already in their mouth. But this was the problem. They each knew / thought that if they were to drop their chick, then the other one would nick it.
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Oscar Namechange;1464142 wrote: No they don't :wah: Have you ever got close enough to sniff one?


I have and they do.

Oscar Namechange;1464142 wrote: So Wolves would roll In all sorts to disguise their smell when creeping up on prey. Most domestic dogs still do this given half a chance,


I've seen male hyenas in Africa turn on their backs and scoot their shoulders into freshly squirted pee from the female.
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FourPart;1464144 wrote: Your talking about only giving them 2 eggs reminded me of when my kid brother kept ferrets. Whenever he fed them he would like to really tease them by giving the 2 of them 3 day old chicks. This meant that each one of them would run off to opposite ends of the pen with a chick in its mouth, but each one of them wanted the remaining one, but each one also knew that in order to get it they'd have to drop the one already in their mouth. But this was the problem. They each knew / thought that if they were to drop their chick, then the other one would nick it. I love Ferrets.

To see a Fox eating an egg Is quite something. I have tried many times to get them on film doing so. Whatever lucky Foxes get the eggs, the always tend to bolt back to the Earth with them like they are clutching some pricelss prize.

There's one who'll often eat his egg In front of me.... The front tooth goes In the top of the egg to make a hole and they hold It between their front paws and suck out the middle. I find the shells under my car In the mornings, still perfectly formed but empty.
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Oscar Namechange;1464146 wrote: I love Ferrets.


And I love hippos.
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I've never seen a fox in the ten years I've lived here although they were regulars in my previous garden. Ive heard them maybe twice in that period. I'm guessing that since this is a rural location, they've all gone into town for KFC
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High Threshold;1464149 wrote: And I love hippos.
I don't think Hippos are sold much on Day-Old Chicks - or eggs for that matter.
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Snowfire;1464150 wrote: I've never seen a fox in the ten years I've lived here although they were regulars in my previous garden. Ive heard them maybe twice in that period. I'm guessing that since this is a rural location, they've all gone into town for KFC


Keep your ears open as this Is the time of year the Vixens start calling for a mate. It's a high pitched scream. It's also the time of year, people start phoning the police thinking a cat's being tortured.

Next time you have a chicken, put the carcas down the bottom of your garden... I bet It's gone by the morning... you may not see them but I'll bet they see you. :wah:
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Oscar Namechange;1464156 wrote: Keep your ears open as this Is the time of year the Vixens start calling for a mate. It's a high pitched scream. It's also the time of year, people start phoning the police thinking a cat's being tortured.

Next time you have a chicken, put the carcas down the bottom of your garden... I bet It's gone by the morning... you may not see them but I'll bet they see you. :wah:


They rear pheasants round these parts. There maybe be steps taken to "discourage" foxes. I don't know.

I know very well what they sound like. They were very common back in our old house in the town. Thats where they seem to congregate now, rather than the burger-less lanes of the countryside
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Snowfire;1464157 wrote: They rear pheasants round these parts. There maybe be steps taken to "discourage" foxes. I don't know.

I know very well what they sound like. They were very common back in our old house in the town. Thats where they seem to congregate now, rather than the burger-less lanes of the countryside I'd like to see that. I don't think there's a step anyone can take to deter a Fox. They can climb as well you know.

As I said earlier, even If they detered one Fox, a newly ousted cub will take the territory Immediately.
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Snowfire;1464150 wrote: I've never seen a fox in the ten years I've lived here ..... I'm guessing that since this is a rural location, they've all gone into town for KFC


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FourPart;1464155 wrote: I don't think Hippos are sold much on Day-Old Chicks - or eggs for that matter.


You're right there! Hippo eggs are as rare as hen's teeth these days. But there was a time ........................... sigh.
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Had to stiffle a giggle today when my elderly neighbour accosted me outside and said ' ere, you seen what your Foxes have done' ?

Well, I had but I was hoping he'd not see It after he asked me to have words with them when they buried sausages and eggs In his potato and runner bean plots.

It begs the question, why does It take 8 Council workmen 3 weeks to dig a hole In the road when these little buggers dug an entire tunnel under a brick wall Into the neighbours potato plot overnight?
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Oscar Namechange;1464483 wrote: Had to stiffle a giggle today when my elderly neighbour accosted me outside and said ' ere, you seen what your Foxes have done' ?

Well, I had but I was hoping he'd not see It after he asked me to have words with them when they buried sausages and eggs In his potato and runner bean plots.

It begs the question, why does It take 8 Council workmen 3 weeks to dig a hole In the road when these little buggers dug an entire tunnel under a brick wall Into the neighbours potato plot overnight?


"These little buggers" don't get paid by the hour.
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High Threshold;1464497 wrote: "These little buggers" don't get paid by the hour.


True :wah:

My Neighbour was complaining again this morning. I do enjoy winding him up so I told him he can't fill the tunnel In as by law he needs to carry out an enviromental Impact survey before hindering a Fox from returning.
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Oscar Namechange;1464509 wrote: My Neighbour was complaining again ..... I told him he can't fill the tunnel In as by law he needs to carry out an enviromental Impact survey before hindering a Fox from returning.


You never did!!! :yh_rotfl
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Oscar Namechange;1464483 wrote: It begs the question, why does It take 8 Council workmen 3 weeks to dig a hole In the road when these little buggers dug an entire tunnel under a brick wall Into the neighbours potato plot overnight?
I thought the answer was obvious - they're Polish Foxes.
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Well he's filled the tunnel In.

We have laws In this country that before you can build on previous unbuilt land, you must carry out an enviromental Impact survey...I'm reporting old Arthur to the Council.
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Oscar Namechange;1464651 wrote: Well he's filled the tunnel In.

We have laws In this country that before you can build on previous unbuilt land, you must carry out an enviromental Impact survey...I'm reporting old Arthur to the Council.


So he got down on his hands and knees, crawled all the way through a trans-territorial tunnel and systematically filled it in with fox-repellent concrete so that the beast has no chance of digging it through again? Hmm. Quite a resourcefully deviant neighbour you have. Never mind the council - MI5 is the only thing for it.
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High Threshold;1464661 wrote: So he got down on his hands and knees, crawled all the way through a trans-territorial tunnel and systematically filled it in with fox-repellent concrete so that the beast has no chance of digging it through again? Hmm. Quite a resourcefully deviant neighbour you have. Never mind the council - MI5 is the only thing for it. :wah::wah::wah:

He's just filled It with pea gravel... I'm waiting til dark then I'm scooping It all out. :wah:

I might put some sausages down there also.
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Oscar Namechange;1464674 wrote: :wah::wah::wah:

He's just filled It with pea gravel... I'm waiting til dark then I'm scooping It all out. :wah:

I might put some sausages down there also.


Wretched be the devil who lives adjacent to you, Oscar.
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High Threshold;1464676 wrote: Wretched be the devil who lives adjacent to you, Oscar. I'm very fond of old Arthur really despite his constant moaning.. I do love winding him up though.
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Just taken this 15 minutes ago outside my house... just part of It... 12 of them so far... Come on buddies, redig that tunnel again.

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One with orange headlights & the other with blue ones.
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Update on the Arthur/tunnel saga.

Over the past few nights, there's been a stand off. The pesky buggers thwart old Arthur's attempts and have actually dug out all the Pea gravel twice now. Two days ago Arthur resorted to bunging up the tunnel Into his potato plot with stones.

Yesterday morning I noticed, the Foxes had managed to dig them out and the tunnel re-emerged.

Got up early this morning to find Old Arthur has placed a massive lump of concrete over the tunnel entrance.

As I do love torturing old Arthur, I have just been out there to feed them and I've moved the block of concrete. Not completely so It looks an Impossible feat for the Foxes but just enough to one side to make him think ' How the bloody hell did they move that'. I've chucked some egg shells and a pork chop down the opening just to confuse him all the more...

However, tomorrow night will be the most fun...You can buy Police crime tape on E Bay and I have some left over... I'm going to tape off the tunnel area.... I will photograph just for my own sardonic amusement.
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Old Arthur has now poured oil down the tunnel as without my Intervention, they managed to move the concrete slab... eh ?

Tis been a sad week this week. Both families are back to the original four In each. Yes, It's that time of year that the Alpha's have ousted this years cubs. Let's hope they don't do what the buggers did last time and just move a few yards up the lane.

No sign of them for a week now, so It looks like they are gone for good. At least I know that thanks to our Turkish pals who kept them In chicken waste and meat this season, they go off to take new territories fighting fit and In excellent health.

The Alpha's and Subordinates are sporting their winter coats now and look magnificent. Tis the time of year that rutting now begins.

March, I will be honoured again when they bring out little black, fluffy Kits to me.
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