Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?

katsung47 · Post by **katsung47** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:47 pm

Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?

East Ukrainians have more reason to seek independence because they speak Russian while Scottish speak the same language as British do.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:20 pm

katsung47;1465254 wrote: Why Scottish can have a referendum but East Ukrainians got a shelling?
Because Ukraine was invaded.

East Ukrainians have more reason to seek independence because they speak Russian while Scottish speak the same language as British do.

Language has nothing to do with it. If it were, then Wales would have been the ones to have had a referendum.

As to the Scottish speaking the same language... Well, that's questionable.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:23 am

Ukraine has a separate, but similar language to Russia. Both groups tell me the Ukraines can understand & speak pure Russian, but not vice-versa.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:56 pm

Nobody in Eastern Ukraine ever demanded a referendum to secede from Ukraine. If they wanted to stay a part of Russia, the time to have had that discussion was after the dissolution of the Soviet.

katsung47 · Post by **katsung47** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:27 pm

Because in so said democratic country, the ruling class control the intelligence and media. They could rig the voting result to get whatever they want and justify it with various reasons because they control the media. That’s what happened in Scotland referendum.

In East Ukraine, they are not able to do so. So they show their real face – to suppress by force.

Scottish referendum vote-rigging claims spark calls for recount

Tens of thousands sign petitions wanting recount or fresh vote based on videos that purport to show evidence of electoral fraud.

Esther Addley

The Guardian, Monday 22 September 2014

Scottish referendum vote-rigging claims spark calls for recount | Politics | The Guardian

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:01 pm

I reckon we need to have a referendum on whether we should have a referendum or not. Now!!

Or should we have a referendum on whether or not we should have a referendum on whether we should have a referendum or not on whether we should have a referendum or not.

et al.

katsung47 · Post by **katsung47** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:52 pm

LarsMac;1465312 wrote: Nobody in Eastern Ukraine ever demanded a referendum to secede from Ukraine.

It doesn't make sense. Nobody demanded a referendum but a lot of people rose with arms to resist the government? I'm afraid they were not given the chance.

LarsMac;1465312 wrote: If they wanted to stay a part of Russia, the time to have had that discussion was after the dissolution of the Soviet.

Can you apply the same logic to Scotland that why they joined the U.K.? Condition changes after time changing.

Post by **LarsMac** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:15 pm

katsung47;1466568 wrote: It doesn't make sense. Nobody demanded a referendum but a lot of people rose with arms to resist the government? I'm afraid they were not given the chance.

Can you apply the same logic to Scotland that why they joined the U.K.? Condition changes after time changing.

You should study more history.