Water-Boarding 10 years ago to Drones today, why is there no outrage from Americans

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:31 pm

A new report finds U.S. drone strikes kill 28 unidentified people for every intended target. While the Obama administration has claimed its drone strikes are precise, the group Reprieve found that strikes targeting 41 people in Yemen and Pakistan have killed more than 1,000 other, unnamed people. In its attempts to kill al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri alone, the CIA killed 76 children and 29 adults; al-Zawahiri remains alive. We are joined by Jennifer Gibson, staff attorney at Reprieve and author of the new report, "You Never Die Twice: Multiple Kills in the U.S. Drone Program."

US drone strike kills 8 in Pakistani school, 5 children dead

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:54 am

There is you just don't see it being reported in mainstream media. Before the Iraq war there were hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating that barely got a mention. Sadly our media seems to be going the same way as the american.

At least john mccain has earned the some right to cmment on the use of torture.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-mccain ... t-release/

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:14 pm

BTS;1469427 wrote: A new report finds U.S. drone strikes kill 28 unidentified people for every intended target. While the Obama administration has claimed its drone strikes are precise, the group Reprieve found that strikes targeting 41 people in Yemen and Pakistan have killed more than 1,000 other, unnamed people. In its attempts to kill al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri alone, the CIA killed 76 children and 29 adults; al-Zawahiri remains alive. We are joined by Jennifer Gibson, staff attorney at Reprieve and author of the new report, "You Never Die Twice: Multiple Kills in the U.S. Drone Program."

There sure as hell is outrage from non-Americans - a lot of outrage!

People outside of America do not see Democrats and Republicans, they see Americans - this is not blamed on Obama, the blame is placed on the American Government

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:04 pm

Bryn Mawr;1469452 wrote: There sure as hell is outrage from non-Americans - a lot of outrage!

People outside of America do not see Democrats and Republicans, they see Americans - this is not blamed on Obama, the blame is placed on the American Government

It should.

BTS · Post by **BTS** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:26 pm

AnneBoleyn;1469500 wrote: It should.

It should what? Blame the American Govt. or blame Obama.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:41 am

BTS;1469507 wrote: It should what? Blame the American Govt. or blame Obama.

I'm thinking you blame Obama for most stuff you don't like. I might be wrong, you tell me.

The Republicans & Democrats are OUR Government, & in the end, are Equally Responsible for good or ill. Two sides of the same coin.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:23 am

BTS;1469507 wrote: It should what? Blame the American Govt. or blame Obama.

Given the highlighted phrase in the section quoted, Anne's response is perfectly clear.

BTW, welcome back

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:35 pm

BTS;1469427 wrote: A new report finds U.S. drone strikes kill 28 unidentified people for every intended target. While the Obama administration has claimed its drone strikes are precise, the group Reprieve found that strikes targeting 41 people in Yemen and Pakistan have killed more than 1,000 other, unnamed people. In its attempts to kill al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri alone, the CIA killed 76 children and 29 adults; al-Zawahiri remains alive. We are joined by Jennifer Gibson, staff attorney at Reprieve and author of the new report, "You Never Die Twice: Multiple Kills in the U.S. Drone Program."

US drone strike kills 8 in Pakistani school, 5 children deadI'm wondering what it is exactly you're blaming Obama for. Is it that as president he decided to let loose on the middle east an inept, blood-thirsty, uncaring and empathy-lacking American military apparatus? Let's not forget how we got to where we are. Okay? Or perhaps you're being critical of the weapons manufacturers? If so, in either case, it occurs to me that you've misplaced your anger.....again. Obama (nor any member of congress for that matter) is actually prosecuting America's aggression, that's the job of the military, nor did any of the afore mentioned manufacture the apparently shoddy weaponry being used.

So, would you mind much being a bit more specific regarding your criticism so that we might have something of substance to bite at?

I'm with you that Obama has been a disappointment as president, but that's because he's behaved more conservative than liberal. I'm happy to see you agree with me.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:40 pm

Ahso!;1469620 wrote:

I'm with you that Obama has been a disappointment as president, but that's because he's behaved more conservative than liberal. I'm happy to see you agree with me.

Wholeheartedly agree!!!!